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maximford
12-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Twilight of the Gods (http://igg.me/p/52993?a=327096)

This may be of interest, A film about Friedrich Nietzsche and Richard Wagner.

The action of this film takes place in the Lunatic Asylum where the Ghost of Wagner materializes to Friedrich Nietzsche and finally the details of the argument are revealed

Jack of Hearts
12-07-2011, 01:45 PM
No thanks, unless Denzel is playing Nietzsche and Seth Rogen is Richard Wagner.






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Charles Darnay
12-07-2011, 02:04 PM
yeah, I don't really see the potential. Two figures more interesting on paper and in sound than in flesh (or plasma?)

cafolini
12-07-2011, 02:56 PM
yeah, I don't really see the potential. Two figures more interesting on paper and in sound than in flesh (or plasma?)

Well, Charles, most of the people of the times and prior to that were more interesting on paper than in flesh. Nietzsche was against the dramatization of music and the antisemitic expression of Wagner. Will have to see what they do with the joke of the superman and how they interpret it. Regarding music, Voltaire was another one who was antisemitic and against the dramatization of music, when he said, "if your poetry sounds silly, add music to it."

OrphanPip
12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Well, Charles, most of the people of the times and prior to that were more interesting on paper than in flesh. Nietzsche was against the dramatization of music and the antisemitic expression of Wagner. Will have to see what they do with the joke of the superman and how they interpret it. Regarding music, Voltaire was another one who was antisemitic and against the dramatization of music, when he said, "if your poetry sounds silly, add music to it."

Nietzsche didn't object to the form of opera, his essays on Wagner call Wagner's orchestration artificial and unsophisticated. While he argues that Bizet's orchestration is graceful and stylish.

Nietzsche's critiques of Wagner have more to do with his disgust over Wagner's Christian morality and German nationalism. He considered Wagner's popularity as evidence of the inferiority of the masses and a reflection of increasing decadence.

JuniperWoolf
12-16-2011, 09:24 AM
Nietzsche's critiques of Wagner have more to do with his disgust over Wagner's Christian morality and German nationalism. He considered Wagner's popularity as evidence of the inferiority of the masses and a reflection of increasing decadence.

Considering what happened a few decades after his death I guess he was right.