Bloggers?

[Revolte]

I think this may have been brought up before, but I didn't find anything and don't want to look through 101 pages, so. I never payed much mind to blogging or anything but a friend of mine showed me hers and told me I should start, so i thought it would be interesting. A change of pace.

http://www.awolfstrack.blogspot.com/

is mine.

Anyone else have any up?

[Vonny]

Revolte, I don't want to sound insensitive, but you are creating that reality yourself. Stop with the alcohol and drugs and masochism.

Revolte: "Part of me feels like if I write this out and share, I will become vented and well. The other part of me is terrified this is simply concreting what I wish to avoid–the vast 'n' dark reaches of my personal universe."

The second sentence is true. You're concreting insanity in yourself. It will not get vented and well this way.

[Alexander III]

No offense, but 99% of blogs which are not about a certain topic (fashion, literature,politics, art) but which are just about the individual are dull and pathetic as hell.

I mean really 99% of people live dull lives...The only redeeming feature a blog about a dull individual can have, is beauty, but that is even rarer than the non-dull lives out there.

[Revolte]

I certainly haven't lived a dull life lol

also I don't create that reality thank you. I'm not a druggy, not an alcoholic, and masochism isn't exactly something you choose to have.

[Alexander III]

I certainly haven't lived a dull life lol


Everyone thinks their life is interesting. In truth it's only interesting to themselves, for everyone else its the same boring stuff. I sure think my life is interesting, but I also know that everyone else would think its just more of the same boring stuff.

Most people realize what I just said as soon as all the teenage angst dries up.

[Vonny]

Everyone thinks their life is interesting. In truth it's only interesting to themselves, for everyone else its the same boring stuff. I sure think my life is interesting, but I also know that everyone else would think its just more of the same boring stuff.

Most people realize what I just said as soon as all the teenage angst dries up.

I don't know what kind of life you have, but you make the forum much more interesting!

It's difficult when you click on and someone is saying how he has no life and wants to kill himself. Good grief! When I want to kill myself, I at least laugh about it.

[Alexander III]

I don't know what kind of life you have, but you make the forum much more interesting!

It's difficult when you click on and someone is saying how he has no life and wants to kill himself. Good grief! When I want to kill myself, I at least laugh about it.

Well put, whenever I have sorrow, I make sure not to share, especially with my friends - with them I only give myself in conditions of reverie and mirth and laughter. It seems selfish especially upon friends to unload your sorrows on them.

And when in deep sorrow, always remember life is too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

[Revolte]

I don't know what kind of life you have, but you make the forum much more interesting!

It's difficult when you click on and someone is saying how he has no life and wants to kill himself. Good grief! When I want to kill myself, I at least laugh about it.


well aren't you special.

[OrphanPip]

Well I've blogged about my life using the forum's blog feature, but I try to draw from Montaigne in some ways, and use the personal experience as a way to comment on the general. I think that's the best way to write about oneself and make it relevant to an audience. Not that I object to the entirely cathartic expression of self.

[Revolte]

One thing I'm not understanding here. If I put my thoughts and experiences down while calling them out on what they are, and not masking them through short stories or poetry. I'm all of a sudden some sort of weak and dull man who's faults lie in honesty and seriousness.

Yet when I put those same thoughts and experiences into those poems and short stories (including one I remember got positive feed back and was a complete account of actual happenings) it is suddenly accepted?

I have no shame in having the bravery to be public with my emotions. I find it a helpful way of coping. I refuse to ignore those feelings as they are complete truths and to hide the truth simply because life can be stressful is below my level of honor. I pride myself in who I am, even through my moments of extreme states and self damage. I find it sickening that I can not even bring this up without being told silly and demeaning words. Save it. If it is not obvious enough I have no room in my life for jerks.

[OrphanPip]

I wasn't trying to be negative, I was just addressing Alex's criticism of the personal experience as being uninteresting. I don't think personal experiences are uninteresting, if they were we wouldn't see the proliferation of programs like Oprah and Dr. Phil.

I was just trying to say that addressing in the blog post why one's personal experiences are relevant on a grander scale helps to make it more accessible and draw in more interest.

[1n50mn14]

What happened to the forums being a supportive place where CONSTRUCTIVE feedback is provided? I miss those days. Rightfully so, genuinely stupid people should be called out, but there was no call for the nastiness- for that's what it was- earlier in this thread. Revolte, I'm currently re-vamping my blog. Will follow yours as soon as mine is done and link you to mine! I should think we can entertain each other and agree upon a lot of common experiences/opinions.

[cl154576]

Alexander, I think some personal experiences can be interesting, yours included. I at least like to read books where the characters' lives are somewhat interesting. I would say "interesting" people are disproportionately represented on this forum, as many here are intellectuals.


I don't know what kind of life you have, but you make the forum much more interesting!

It's difficult when you click on and someone is saying how he has no life and wants to kill himself. Good grief! When I want to kill myself, I at least laugh about it.

My infinite apologies, Vonny ... But maybe it makes no difference for me, as I am friendless anyway.

[Vonny]

What happened to the forums being a supportive place where CONSTRUCTIVE feedback is provided?

I was speaking from my own experience in my posts above. I don't know what you've been through Revolte, but I also had a rough childhood.

As I said, it was from my own experience, which may not apply to you, but I'm unable to go into those very dark mental regions. I've gone to counselors who have wanted to dig up all kinds of memories and emotions in me, and it was detrimental to me. My psychiatrist "prescribed" or I should say prohibited for me all of that Freudian style analysis. In counseling I'm only to deal with my current challenges, such as - how to manage my time. In other words, I'm not to delve into how my current problems have grown out of past experiences.

In my case, it's best if whatever my psyche has managed to suppress, or repress, just stays that way. It's best not to dig into old wounds. Anything I've managed to forget, or can manage to forget, is in my favor.

So that's why to me your tortured writing, which seemed to be losing touch with reality, came across as completely negative to me.


Alex: "And when in deep sorrow, always remember life is too ridiculous to be taken seriously." -- That's a fantastic quote! I'll record that in my quote book.

[Alexander III]

Sorry If I came off as a dick, was just saying what I honestly think.

I don't think there is anything wrong with masochism but as with all things "if its worth doing its worth doing well" cutting and burning oneself with cigarettes is just lame - if one is going to be a masochist they ought to do it like a man - join a war or some such, there are currently 27 going on in the world right now, pick one and go. An acquaintance of mine at university did that - he was bored with life and he went of to Libya, he was Romanian and Libya had nothing to do with him, but he went. I respect that, that is being a fatalist like a man - cutting yourself on the other-hand, is just childish.

P.s as to the romanian fellow I knew, I have not heard from him since he left to libya, several months ago, but I suppose he is still alive.

[cl154576]

cutting and burning oneself with cigarettes is just lame

It's something done in the heat of the moment, a temporary release from reality. People do it for the same reasons they go on drinking, spending, or drug binges.

Motives to enlist and motives to self-harm are infinitely different.

[Revolte]

It's something done in the heat of the moment, a temporary release from reality.

That and I get sexual pleasure from pain. Therefor it makes me feel good. The same way with tats.

I would also like to stress that tattoos, smoking, drinking, over eating, under eating, excessive exercise and so on are all forms of self harm used as stress relievers.

people have brains I don't know why they don't use them for anything better then attacking someone, ah arrogance, how wonderful.


cutting yourself on the other-hand, is just childish.




Funny, that's a fairly childish thing to say. That attitude remind me of someone who once told someone else in an extreme state to kill themselves.

[JuniperWoolf]

No offense, but...

Which invariably means the opposite.


IMy psychiatrist "prescribed" or I should say prohibited for me all of that Freudian style analysis.

You'd have a hard *** time trying to find a Freudian analyst anyway, this isn't the 1920's.

[Vonny]

That and I get sexual pleasure from pain. Therefor it makes me feel good.

Regarding the first sentence, you're the first real person I've ever heard say that. :( If I was like that I'd become a nun.


I would also like to stress that tattoos, smoking, drinking, over eating, under eating, excessive exercise and so on are all forms of self harm used as stress relievers.

Maybe the excessive exercise applies to me at times, but I don't see it as masochistic because I don't feel pain, I only feel better. However when my doc suggests that I reduce the exercise, I do. Stress is my life, unless I want to take drugs that make me a zombie. We also don't have to live for momentary pleasures, however it is that we get our kicks. Life is more than that. - I drink, but only to the extent that it makes me feel better. If I overdo it a bit, I learn my lesson really quick! Then I sometimes go for a week or two and let it clear out of my system.

In the past I self-harmed by neglecting my health a bit because my mom didn't seem to care - but I didn't get a thrill from it.


people have brains I don't know why they don't use them for anything better then attacking someone, ah arrogance, how wonderful.

You can't expect people to be able to relate to what you've dumped here. Only a psychiatrist can help you.


You'd have a hard *** time trying to find a Freudian analyst anyway, this isn't the 1920's.

How wrong you are! This is what almost all counseling is. It's what counselors love to do - it is such an easy way for them to "earn" their money. They question you about your past and you go down memory road, going deeper and deeper into every horrible thing that ever happened to you. They sit back and don't say much and let you ramble on. You leave there feeling as though a truck hit you and feeling as though there's no hope for you at all because you had so much happen to you in the past and you're a mess because of it, and you have no idea how to find your way out of it or how to function. If you don't get CBT or DBT, what you usually get is "Freudian" - I mean, this is what I call it. The only difference is you don't usually lie down on a sofa.

[JuniperWoolf]

How wrong you are! This is what almost all counseling is. It's what counselors love to do - it is such an easy way for them to "earn" their money.

No, most therapy is cognitive-behaviourism, it's statistically the most common by leaps and bounds. This has been especially true since the early seventies when it was inarguably proven to be the most beneficial and effective (and most especially after the huge "false rape memory" incidents of the eighties which completely destroyed hundreds of families). Trust me, you might have somehow managed to see an unusual number of psychoanalysts, but that was just bad luck on your part. It's an uncommon route of specialization in today's world (we had one single psychoanalyst at the U of A psych faculty).

[Vonny]

No, most therapy is cognitive-behaviourism, it's statistically the most common by leaps and bounds. This has been especially true since the early seventies when it was inarguably proven to be the most beneficial and effective (and most especially after the huge "false rape memory" incidents of the eighties which completely destroyed hundreds of families). Trust me, you might have somehow managed to see an unusual number of psychoanalysts, but that was just bad luck on your part. It's an uncommon route of specialization in today's world (we had one single psychoanalyst at the U of A psych faculty).

Oh well, it really isn't worth debating. I'm sure the profession recognizes what is most beneficial. But what happens in reality if you go to a counselor, and once you're in that office alone with the counselor, they do what is easy for them and also what the majority of people want to do, which is rehash all kinds of stuff from the past and connect it to current problems. At least this is what they do a good part of the session. The other reason they do this is because people never get better. So what happens is they can keep the client year after year, continuing to work on healing all the past, and they continue making money.

I should say, it's not just about the past. There are so many issues in the present that are completely beyond our ability to change that counselors will have you sit there and dig into forever.

It is generally hard to challenge people and get them to change, people don't like it, and they will stop going to counseling, so counselors give what people want.

It's like Revolte there, he's venting and he thinks that eventually he will heal himself this way. Our entire society has been sold this nonsense approach. It's probably what keeps a lot of those talk shows thriving, although I don't know. But most people are convinced that this venting works. When counselors use this approach they don't usually get "called on it", because people get a masochistic satisfaction out of it.

[JuniperWoolf]

what the majority of people want to do, which is rehash all kinds of stuff from the past and connect it to current problems.


It is generally hard to challenge people and get them to change, people don't like it, and they will stop going to counseling, so counselors give what people want.

That's a valid point, if people who visit a therapist expect it to be all laying on a couch and talking about their childhoods then that's what they're going to do and a therapist might not be able to move the session towards CBT. I guess what else would you be able to do with someone who is telling you something personal about their lives that they've never told anyone else and feel that they need to get off their chest, tell them to breathe deep and visualize themselves as rooted to the ground? It'd be an awkward conversation to maneuver.

[Revolte]

You can't expect people to be able to relate to what you've dumped here. Only a psychiatrist can help you.




I don't need to be helped. Nor am I looking for it.




It's like Revolte there, he's venting and he thinks that eventually he will heal himself this way. Our entire society has been sold this nonsense approach. It's probably what keeps a lot of those talk shows thriving, although I don't know. But most people are convinced that this venting works. When counselors use this approach they don't usually get "called on it", because people get a masochistic satisfaction out of it.

Stop using me and the things I say as examples to what is wrong. Got that? Good. Respect please.




It is generally hard to challenge people and get them to change, people don't like it, and they will stop going to counseling, so counselors give what people want.


Challenging people is the easiest thing to do in the world, getting a person to challenge themselves on the other hand is a different story.

As for getting someone to change. You can't force someone to change nor can anyone force themselves to change. You can get rid of and form new habits but that's as far as it will go. When it comes to changes in personality that's something that happens on it's own. And who is to say what is wrong or right? Or that a person is wrong or right? There is no such thing as moral law.

For example you seem to be disgusted by my being a masochist, while I find it quite thrilling, and when my lovers are into it, well I wouldn't change those wild nights for anything.

[Vonny]

That's a valid point, if people who visit a therapist expect it to be all laying on a couch and talking about their childhoods then that's what they're going to do and a therapist might not be able to move the session towards CBT. I guess what else would you be able to do with someone who is telling you something personal about their lives that they've never told anyone else and feel that they need to get off their chest, tell them to breathe deep and visualize themselves as rooted to the ground? It'd be an awkward conversation to maneuver.

My brother David called this morning and I carried on for a very long time just telling him every awful thing that's going on in my life, and he just listened mostly, which is what I love about him, because there's no point in advice when there are no answers.

I got off the phone and realized, I do vent! And venting is good. But I stay in reality. If I began to stray into unreality, he'd let me know. And then we really laugh about the stuff that's so horrible it's ridiculous!

And that part about breathing deep and visualizing - yes it's good. When I'm stressed I "visualize" with all of my senses, really more with feeling, swimming in my favorite pool of water - actually it is outdoors in my vision, more of a pond with a waterfall, and it's on my own island. This is what make me feel better. Ain't I special? :lol: (that question is for Revolte)

[Vonny]

One thing I'm not understanding here. If I put my thoughts and experiences down while calling them out on what they are, and not masking them through short stories or poetry. I'm all of a sudden some sort of weak and dull man who's faults lie in honesty and seriousness.

Yet when I put those same thoughts and experiences into those poems and short stories (including one I remember got positive feed back and was a complete account of actual happenings) it is suddenly accepted?

I have no shame in having the bravery to be public with my emotions. I find it a helpful way of coping. I refuse to ignore those feelings as they are complete truths and to hide the truth simply because life can be stressful is below my level of honor. I pride myself in who I am, even through my moments of extreme states and self damage. I find it sickening that I can not even bring this up without being told silly and demeaning words. Save it. If it is not obvious enough I have no room in my life for jerks.

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have mocked the "aint I special," or otherwise invalidated you if that's what I did. I have no idea what you go through in life, and you should be proud of who you are. I have a couple of people who don't say silly and demeaning words to me, and that is why I haven't killed myself, but it's not because I'm special.