Women's studies

[G L Wilson]

Feminine culture - now there's an oxymoron.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

God, quit trolling. It's not funny, obvious, obnoxious, and lazy even by troll standards.

[Drkshadow03]

God, quit trolling. It's not funny, obvious, obnoxious, and lazy even by troll standards.

It's the only thing he is good at. :thumbsup:

[G L Wilson]

I am quite serious. If you can prove me wrong, please do so.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I'm just going to report you.

[G L Wilson]

Do as you wish.

[Lokasenna]

God, quit trolling. It's not funny, obvious, obnoxious, and lazy even by troll standards.

Well put. It is rather irritating to hit the 'New Posts' button and have to wade through all this.

[aliengirl]

OP is really good at selecting titles. I just checked hoping to find something useful but oh... s***!

[laymonite]

I applaud G L Wilson for having fun in an environment imbued with condescension and braggadocio. Whether the rapid-posting effort is in jest or actually to spark "serious debate," we need to remember that it's okay to make fun of ourselves!

[stlukesguild]

There is a difference between making fun of oneself, and repeatedly making comments or throwing out rhetorical questions that verge upon racism, sexism, and antisemitism with no more than the intention to provoke an emotional response from others.

[G L Wilson]

There is a difference between making fun of oneself, and repeatedly making comments or throwing out rhetorical questions that verge upon racism, sexism, and antisemitism with no more than the intention to provoke an emotional response from others.

If I am brunt, stlukesguild, it is from the need to spark intelligence.

[laymonite]

It has just occurred to me that trolling this board makes a really nice sociology experiment.

[Alexander III]

Feminine culture - now there's an oxymoron.

Someone hasn't been laid in a while...

[G L Wilson]

Someone hasn't been laid in a while...

That's it - sex - that's my problem.

[Alexander III]

That's it - sex - that's my problem.

If you live anywhere from Valencia to Petersburg, I could visit and give you a delightful shagging; you don't need to look like adonis, so long as you can be described as handsome or pretty (I am unsure weather you are male or female) - Either way I am up for it.

[Red-Headed]

I applaud G L Wilson for having fun in an environment imbued with condescension and braggadocio. Whether the rapid-posting effort is in jest or actually to spark "serious debate," we need to remember that it's okay to make fun of ourselves!

I'm with you & G L on this one. Some people should lighten up a bit. :thumbsup:

[Red-Headed]

If I am brunt, stlukesguild, it is from the need to spark intelligence.

Hey, G L, now you know why the 'ignore button' was invented!

[G L Wilson]

Hey, G L, now you know why the 'ignore button' was invented!

I'm impulsive, Red-Headed, I can't help myself.

[Red-Headed]

I'm impulsive, Red-Headed, I can't help myself.

I was thinking more about you using it yourself, typically on rather condescending posters who apparently appear to have no sense of humour.

There are quite a few on here ...

[G L Wilson]

I was thinking more about you using it yourself, typically on rather condescending posters who apparently appear to have no sense of humour.

There are quite a few on here ...

All they see is an enemy, they can't help themselves either.

[Red-Headed]

All they see is an enemy, they can't help themselves either.

True, but it is nice to have the choice of not seeing their posts.

[G L Wilson]

True, but it is nice to have the choice of not seeing their posts.

I see where you are coming from; but I am a free thinker, it would go against my principles.

[Red-Headed]

I see where you are coming from; but I am a free thinker, it would go against my principles.

Yeah, sometimes even trolls can be entertaining. I'm just bad tempered though, it must be the colour of my hair.

[G L Wilson]

Yeah, sometimes even trolls can be entertaining. I'm just bad tempered though, it must be the colour of my hair.

Nothing wrong with the colour of your hair, I reckon redheads are kinda cool.

[Varenne Rodin]

Ignore buttons are for weakos. Offense intended.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

It's not a matter of "lightening up." It's a matter of flooding the forums with useless crap. If it was actually funny, then it wouldn't be a problem. But it isn't. It's immature.

And I didn't even know you could ignore people on here.

[Red-Headed]

It's not a matter of "lightening up." It's a matter of flooding the forums with useless crap. If it was actually funny, then it wouldn't be a problem. But it isn't. It's immature.

And I didn't even know you could ignore people on here.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[Red-Headed]

Ignore buttons are for weakos. Offense intended.

Probably. No offence taken.

[Emil Miller]

That's it - sex - that's my problem.

Have you ever asked yourself why?

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
:lol: Well played.

Seriously, though, how do you ignore people on here?

[Emil Miller]

:lol: Well played.

Seriously, though, how do you ignore people on here?

I would have thought it was obvious. Simply don't answer their posts.

[Red-Headed]

@ Mutatis-Mutandi

Actually, I've forgotten. Isn't it somewhere in the user control panel? I think you have to type the user name of the person you wish to ignore into a box (& press enter). I think ...

[Delta40]

If you live anywhere from Valencia to Petersburg, I could visit and give you a delightful shagging; you don't need to look like adonis, so long as you can be described as handsome or pretty (I am unsure weather you are male or female) - Either way I am up for it.

oh please do him this service for all our sakes! Make sure you tie his hands to the bedpost and leave him like that when you're done :ladysman:

[Emil Miller]

oh please do him this service for all our sakes! Make sure you tie his hands to the bedpost and leave him like that when you're done :ladysman:

You seem informed about this sort of thing, are you speaking from personal experience?

[Delta40]

You seem informed about this sort of thing, are you speaking from personal experience?

Can I take the fifth amendment in Australia?

[Emil Miller]

Can I take the fifth amendment in Australia?

Not unless they have adopted the American constitution.

[Vonny]

G L, I think you're smart and capable of making a contribution here, but if you are irritating people like Lokasenna, Mutatis and Luke then you need to rethink your strategy.

It's a shame that the internet ends up being abandoned by people who have anything worthwhile to say, because they are completely drowned out by so many very stupid people with very loud voices.

[Delta40]

Not unless they have adopted the American constitution.

I'll take the virtual fifth then.

Everyone who wants to see GL Wilson hogtied say 'Aye'

[Emil Miller]

G L, I think you're smart and capable of making a contribution here, but if you are irritating people like Lokasenna, Mutatis and Luke then you need to rethink your strategy.

Perhaps it's Lokasenna, Mutatis and StLukes who need to rethink their strategy. Every coin has two sides Vonny.

[Red-Headed]

Don't listen to them G L, (a) you're clever & (b) I suspect that many on this forum have no sense of irony or litotical humour. In fact, I suspect that there are some here who just need a good laxative to ease the problem they seem to be having with their own jacksys.

[Vonny]

Perhaps it's Lokasenna, Mutatis and StLukes who need to rethink their strategy. Every coin has two sides Vonny.

What? You've lost me here Emil. I don't understand.

[Calidore]

Don't listen to them G L, (a) you're clever & (b) I suspect that many on this forum have no sense of irony or litotical humour. In fact, I suspect that there are some here who just need a good laxative to ease the problem they seem to be having with their own jacksys.

Red, I have to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees G.L.'s positives, and thanks for speaking up. But please don't fall into the trap of baiting the others; that just expands divisions that should ideally be closed. The people you're talking about are equally valuable and respected here.

It would be great if everyone we liked also liked each other, but that's not always possible. But when it's your friends disagreeing, do you take sides or try to smooth things over?

[Vonny]

I really do wish I understood this.

I know that I can be irritating, but if people who have much more to offer than I do tell me that I'm seriously getting on their nerves, I try to make an adjustment.

What am I not seeing?

Also, that's a very good point Calidore. What you're talking about there is one of the biggest problems in the world, people who see trouble and want to make more.

[Emil Miller]

Don't listen to them G L, (a) you're clever & (b) many on this forum have no sense of irony or litotical humour. In fact, I suspect that there are some here who just need a good laxative to ease the problem they seem to be having with their own jacksys.

Whilst I seldom resort to the vernacular, I do see where you are coming from. I hope it's not simply down to your red hair.


I'll take the virtual fifth then.

Everyone who wants to see GL Wilson hogtied say 'Aye'

G L Wilson should be so lucky. I once worked as a civilian for a police force and was enamoured of two super girls who could have modelled their uniforms on any catwalk you care to name. Because I used to play up to them, they threatened to visit me with their handcuffs but it never came to pass. I still have regrets.

[Red-Headed]

Red, I have to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees G.L.'s positives, and thanks for speaking up. But please don't fall into the trap of baiting the others; that just expands divisions that should ideally be closed. The people you're talking about are equally valuable and respected here.

It would be great if everyone we liked also liked each other, but that's not always possible. But when it's your friends disagreeing, do you take sides or try to smooth things over?

Fair-do's, but how do you know 'which people' I am talking about? From my point of view, G L is the one being attacked. He/she seems to be a clever & perspicacious person with a dry wit & a black sense of humour who is trying to kick-start some quite meaningful discussions. He/she has succeeded with this on several occasions quite well.

What rules has G L broken?

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I suspect that many on this forum have no sense of irony or litotical humour.
You have 500+ posts on this forum, so you know that's not true.

Listen, when someone has different views than mine, that's cool. But G L is flooding the forums, and it's annoying. You don't create 10+ threads in the matter of fifteen minutes, each comprised of, at the most, ten words. He doesn't provide anything to discuss, and where discussions do start, it's because of repliers guessing at what kind of point he may be trying to make, which he never does clarify. Oh, and do I need to point out all of his offensive, misogynistic, and racist posts? It isn't witty, it's childish. If someone wants to do this crap, go to IMDb's boards. He'll be welcome company there.

As to rules broken, he's trolling--posting offensive statements to provoke purely emotional responses.

[Red-Headed]

Also, that's a very good point Calidore. What you're talking about there is one of the biggest problems in the world, people who see trouble and want to make more.

Or people who will take a stand for a cause they believe in instead of remaining neutral (& possibly surrendering at the drop of a hat).

G L has as much to offer as anyone else on this site. Too many people here want to be the forum gestapo. If you don't like someone's posts, don't read them.

What rules has G L broken?

[Emil Miller]

If you don't like someone's posts, don't read them.

That's it in a nutshell.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

What rules has G L broken?
I already answered that.

But, I don't get it. G L can make stupid statements, but when I respond in kind, I'm acting like "gestapo"? Please.

[Red-Headed]

You have 500+ posts on this forum, so you know that's not true.

Mind reader now are we?


Listen, when someone has different views than mine, that's cool. But G L is flooding the forums, and it's annoying.

Not to me it isn't.


You don't create 10+ threads in the matter of fifteen minutes, each comprised of, at the most, ten words.

Is that a forum rule?


He doesn't provide anything to discuss, and where discussions do start, it's because of repliers guessing at what kind of point he may be trying to make, which he never does clarify. Oh, and do I need to point out all of his offensive, misogynistic, and racist posts?

If they are that bad why hasn't he been moderated?


It isn't witty, it's childish.

That's a subjective opinion.


If someone wants to do this crap, go to IMDb's boards. He'll be welcome company there.

Again, 'crap' is a subjective ontological construct.


As to rules broken, he's trolling--posting offensive statements to provoke purely emotional responses.

I have not read a post by G L that I would consider trolling.

[Calidore]

Fair-do's, but how do you know 'which people' I am talking about? From my point of view, G L is the one being attacked. He/she seems to be a clever & perspicacious person with a dry wit & a black sense of humour who is trying to kick-start some quite meaningful discussions. He/she has succeeded with this on several occasions quite well.

What rules has G L broken?

None in my opinion. I'm defending him too, remember? Though in the end it's only the mods' opinions that matter.

Some think G.L.'s postings are purely to provoke. I disagree. He just says little, and you have to read between the lines. I've seen him post angrily on some topics and compassionately on others. He seems to me to be a humanist who, in airing grievances, unfortunately prefers carpet-bombing to precision sniping.

[Red-Headed]

That's it in a nutshell.

Thank you. :thumbsup:

[Vonny]

I see irony in me suggesting to others that they not be irritating.

But when 3 or 4 of my "elders" (whom I respect) get together and tell me that I need to make an adjustment, then I give it some consideration.

I guess this is a Christian trait that I still have.

No one is trying to restrict G L from expressing himself.

[Red-Headed]

None in my opinion. I'm defending him too, remember? Though in the end it's only the mods' opinions that matter.

Some think G.L.'s postings are purely to provoke. I disagree. He just says little, and you have to read between the lines. I've seen him post angrily on some topics and compassionately on others. He seems to me to be a humanist who, in airing grievances, unfortunately prefers carpet-bombing to precision sniping.

Yes, he has a refreshing & often self-deprecating style, too clever for some I should imagine.

Carpet bombing works.

[Red-Headed]

I see irony in me suggesting to others that they not be irritating.

But when 3 or 4 of my "elders" (whom I respect) get together and tell me that I need to make an adjustment, then I give it some consideration.

I guess this is a Christian trait that I still have.

No one is trying to restrict G L from expressing himself.

If people got together & told me that I need an adjustment, I'd question their motives. Then I'd probably adjust them. There again, I tend to stick up for myself. I trained in karate & ju jutsu for many years. I just have that mentality I suppose.

You should believe in yourself more.

[Drkshadow03]

Or people who will take a stand for a cause they believe in instead of remaining neutral (& possibly surrendering at the drop of a hat).

G L has as much to offer as anyone else on this site. Too many people here want to be the forum gestapo. If you don't like someone's posts, don't read them.

What rules has G L broken?

Isn't that for the moderators to decide? Personally I'm waiting for his post: "Do Red Heads have souls?" Many important scholars, such as Eric Cartman, have made important claims on this topic (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103645/gingervitus). Discuss. Most of his topics are that ridiculous and provacative. And unfortunately there are too many willing to play the role of Mrs. Garrison (see the video).

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I like how my "subjective opinions" are of less value than yours, Red-Headed.

Anyways: example of trolling--He referred to Jews as bloody savages. Saying feminism culture is an oxymoron.

I'm glad forum flooding isn't annoying to you. I guess you're the only poster that matters around here?

He has been moderated before, and he will be again, probably along with myself, because I took his bait.

Thinking what he does is witty is just as subjective as me thinking it isn't.

And if you really don't think this forum has a sense of humor, Red-Headed, you're wrong. That's not a subjective opinion, it's a fact. Go to the the games forum and see for yourself.

[Red-Headed]

Isn't that for the moderators to decide?

Isn't it?


Personally I'm waiting for his post: "Do Red Heads have souls?" Many important scholars, such as Eric Cartman, have made important claims on this topic (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103645/gingervitus). Discuss. Most of his topics are that ridiculous and provacative. And unfortunately there are too many willing to play the role of Mrs. Garrison (see the video).

I'm pretty sure we don't have souls.

[Drkshadow03]

Isn't it?



I'm pretty sure we don't have souls.

Heh. Well, you do have a sense of humor, at least.

[Calidore]

Anyways: example of trolling--He referred to Jews as bloody savages. Saying feminism culture is an oxymoron.


The first was explained. He was objecting specifically to circumcision, which he sees as an unjustifiable mutilation of children. I can't and won't defend the generalization, but I don't need to. An unpopular or un-PC opinion isn't automatically trolling.

The second he hasn't explained, but...



Thinking what he does is witty is just as subjective as me thinking it isn't.


...that subjectivity you mentioned is the key. He may have been serious or he may have been joking. Since he never elaborated, only he knows.

I'll also point out that, while I may have missed it, I don't believe he has ever once attacked you, Drkshadow03, stlukesguild, Alexander III, or anyone else, even in response to all your frequent attacks on him. That's not a troll.

[Red-Headed]

I like how my "subjective opinions" are of less value than yours, Red-Headed.

I'm sorry, where exactly did I say that? Show me the post.


Anyways: example of trolling--He referred to Jews as bloody savages. Saying feminism culture is an oxymoron.

Hmmmm *thinks, placing finger on chin staring into the middle distance* ... are you sure he was being completely serious?


I'm glad forum flooding isn't annoying to you. I guess you're the only poster that matters around here?

Now who's being provocative? Show me the exact post where I claim that I am the only poster that matters here.


He has been moderated before, and he will be again, probably along with myself, because I took his bait.

And who's fault is that?


Thinking what he does is witty is just as subjective as me thinking it isn't.

Yes, but I can recognise black humour & irony. It must be cultural (I'm not American).


And if you really don't think this forum has a sense of humor, Red-Headed, you're wrong.

Well, G L has a sense of humour. Of course, you do realise your asseveration about me being wrong about this, is subjective, don't you?


That's not a subjective opinion, it's a fact.

Is this an empirical objectifiable fact? Can you prove it? Show me.


Go to the the games forum and see for yourself.

Oh, I know what fun & games are mate. *wink*

[Red-Headed]

I already answered that.

But, I don't get it. G L can make stupid statements, but when I respond in kind, I'm acting like "gestapo"? Please.

Did I specifically call you the gestapo?

You should have been more on the ball & cried Godwin! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Ugh. I don't feel like having a back-and forth with you on this. G L Wilson is on ignore now, so that's the end of it for me.

[Red-Headed]

Heh. Well, you do have a sense of humor, at least.

That's culturally subjective.

[LitNetIsGreat]

You have 500+ posts on this forum, so you know that's not true.

Listen, when someone has different views than mine, that's cool. But G L is flooding the forums, and it's annoying. You don't create 10+ threads in the matter of fifteen minutes, each comprised of, at the most, ten words. He doesn't provide anything to discuss, and where discussions do start, it's because of repliers guessing at what kind of point he may be trying to make, which he never does clarify. Oh, and do I need to point out all of his offensive, misogynistic, and racist posts? It isn't witty, it's childish. If someone wants to do this crap, go to IMDb's boards. He'll be welcome company there.

As to rules broken, he's trolling--posting offensive statements to provoke purely emotional responses.

Exactly. I am very disappointed that this troll is not banned yet. I saw the host of threads and ignored them expecting that when I came back to see him banned, but it seems not so. Maybe they have just not got to this idiotic troll yet? What a moron.

[Vonny]

If people got together & told me that I need an adjustment, I'd question their motives. Then I'd probably adjust them. There again, I tend to stick up for myself. I trained in karate & ju jutsu for many years. I just have that mentality I suppose.

You should believe in yourself more.

You know, this has become quite a "woman's studies" thread. So many women have such an inflated sense about themselves.

Maritial arts wouldn't do me much good because I don't have your mentality. I have guns. My brother chose the right guns for me, and has taught me use them well, so I'm a good marksman. Since I live in a desolate area, at night is when I need protection most. He says a person would have to be on a lot of meth to walk into a shotgun blast.

I always wonder, why are women so obnoxious? Right now we're living in an unreal world. We aren't living in the world the pioneers lived in. But we could return to that any day, because the Titanic is going down. When it does, I'm not going to be a 5 feet 2 inch, 103 pound woman sitting here alone, bragging about karate and spouting off my stupid mouth.

[Red-Headed]

Ugh. I don't feel like having a back-and forth with you on this. G L Wilson is on ignore now, so that's the end of it for me.

OK, but I think that putting people on ignore can lead to a slippery slope. It does have its uses though. I think that I only have one person on ignore here, they really do deserve it though. Normally I am up for a fight ... er ... sorry, debate, but some people on bulletin boards are just best not seen.

[Vonny]

Okay now there's Neely.

[Red-Headed]

You know, this has become quite a "woman's studies" thread. So many women have such an inflated sense about themselves.

What gender do you think I am?


Maritial arts wouldn't do me much good because I don't have your mentality.

And what mentality is that exactly?


I have guns.

I'll bet money you are an American. Do you have a bunker in the hills?


My brother chose the right guns for me, and has taught me use them well, so I'm a good marksman. Since I live in a desolate area, at night is when I need protection most. He says a person would have to be on a lot of meth to walk into a shotgun blast.

I live in the country, the only thing that bothers me is the occasional Barn owl or badger. I used to own a Franchi. I can't see the purpose.


I always wonder, why are women so obnoxious?

I find that there are obnoxious men & obnoxious women. I don't make stereotyped gender assumptions as a rule.


Right now we're living in an unreal world.

Speak for yourself.


We aren't living in the world the pioneers lived in.

What pioneers?


But we could return to that any day, because the Titanic is going down.

It sank ages ago.


When it does, I'm not going to be a 5 feet 2 inch, 103 pound woman sitting here alone, bragging about karate and spouting off my stupid mouth.

No? Good for you.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Okay now there's Neely.

Vonny is the best!!! (If you come to the UK be sure to drop in for a nice cup of tea...)

Wilson is a pathetic troll and best not answered to, despite my responses (which I have limited to just two, even though my fingers itch...). Just try to ignore the moron and you will get on just fine.

Really though I am mad because I hate to see Litnet abused in such a way. I come across idiots daily and get abused all the time, swore at, things thrown at me etc, etc, but I don't like to see crap filling up the boards on Litnet as it is a retreat. Never mind. Turn the other cheek fair Vonny.

Edit: Actually I am more annoyed at people who seem to back the fool. Never mind.

[Red-Headed]

Edit: Actually I am more annoyed at people who seem to back the fool. Never mind.

Give me a convincing argument that G L is a fool. I haven't seen one yet.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Give me a convincing argument that G L is a fool. I haven't seen one yet.

Well maybe consider the fact that he seems to be annoyed about black people or bored by gased jews, or takes jabs at women, I don't know take your pick, come on, your choice.

[Calidore]

I'm not ignoring him, and I'm fine. Well, IMHO. :-) Subjective, you know.

[Red-Headed]

Well maybe consider the fact that he seems to be annoyed about black people or bored by gased jews, or takes jabs at women, I don't know take your pick, come on, your choice.

Have you ever considered he is just joking?

[LitNetIsGreat]

Have you ever considered he is just joking?

What? Joking about gased jews, about women, about black people and more? No. Maybe because it is just so obvious that he is a vicious troll that I didn't consider the humour in such things. Why, do you find such things funny?

[Red-Headed]

What? Joking about gased jews, about women, about black people and more? No. Maybe because it is just so obvious that he is a vicious troll that I didn't consider the humour in such things. Why, do you find such things funny?

I don't find those things funny at all, really that was just a cheap shot. By rights I could cry Godwin! You need to try harder than that.

Honestly, give me a proper argument, rather than he is just a vicious troll. You can keep implying that I am a closet Nazi, who finds humour in racism & the holocaust if you like. I'm not offended, I probably just expected more.

I'd say he was less a vicious troll & more a bit of a prankster. I find people with little or no sense of humour are usually a tad slow on the uptake in other areas. At the end of the day why read his posts if they are so offensive?

[Calidore]

What? Joking about gased jews, about women, about black people and more? No. Maybe because it is just so obvious that he is a vicious troll that I didn't consider the humour in such things. Why, do you find such things funny?

I don't remember him talking negatively about black folks. He hasn't explained about the Nazi stuff. He may have been joking about women.

He's also talked about finding Lovecraft to be a reprehensible person due to his racism. Paradox, or just G.L.'s disinclination to fill in the blanks? I don't always understand him more than anyone else, but I think there should be understanding before condemnation.

As far as the possible humor, I'm reminded about an interview with John Cleese in which that kind of thing came up. His example was the fight with the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and he mentioned talking to people who were bothered by that scene. He said they were incapable of seeing that kind of extreme violence as humorous, even though they could understand that it was supposed to be funny. They just weren't wired that way.

I'm old enough to remember Andrew Dice Clay's heyday. I found his act (what little I could stomach watching) to be appallingly stupid and puerile, but I could also understand that it was intended as comedy, and his audience took it as such, so I didn't get angry about it. I did get jealously angry that he could make millions with that sh*t.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Redheaded:

It is not a cheap shot and really how could I not read them as they are all clogging up the boards?

I don't need to defend my criticisms as they are there for all to see.

I am not the one posting 11 threads or whatever of one line wind-ups, including attacking women, jews, and black people.

Really why would you even defend him and attack me?

[LitNetIsGreat]

I don't remember him talking negatively about black folks. He hasn't explained about the Nazi stuff. He may have been joking about women.
Jesus then. Let's just give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm just waiting for an attack on homosexuals, oh, hold on wasn't there a thread knocking queer studies too? I guess fagots get knocked as well then. Maybe he was just joking? Give me a break.

[Red-Headed]

I think one of G L's problems is that he writes down as he thinks, you just can't do that with the written word. All language, especially written text, is based on deciphering linguistic & semiotic codes.

I honestly think he writes with his tongue firmly in his cheek. This probably works fine in debates with the spoken word as tone & nuance can denote intent.

Unfortunately, all semiotic signifiers/signifieds at a written level need a cultural understanding textually to decipher the inherent denotative, connotative & mytho-cultural coding. Disregarding the supposed affective fallacy that the textual (& intertextual) meaning is actually dependent on the subjectivity of response of the reader deciphering the text, will inevitably lead to a form textual determinism.

This is where the misunderstandings start to appear. Many people find these interpretive ways of decoding problematical.

That's my five bob's worth anyway.

[Red-Headed]

Jesus then. Let's just give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm just waiting for an attack on homosexuals, oh, hold on wasn't there a thread knocking queer studies too? I guess fagots get knocked as well then. Maybe he was just joking? Give me a break.

You seem very angry. Are you sure it is really all about G L? :chillpill:

[Calidore]

Unfortunately, all semiotic signifiers/signifieds at a written level need a cultural understanding textually to decipher the inherent denotative, connotative & mytho-cultural coding. Disregarding the supposed affective fallacy that the textual (& intertextual) meaning is dependent on the subjectivity of response of the reader deciphering the text will inevitably lead to a form textual determinism.

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That's my five bob's worth anyway.

Good God. I'm sure it cost you more than five bob to learn to talk like that, but I'm not sure it was money well spent. Could you translate that into English, please?

[LitNetIsGreat]

You seem very angry. Are you sure it is really all about G L? :chillpill:

Yes I am very angry. No it is not just about G L Wilson. It is also a little deeper. It is about how people can get sucked into following such nonsense, deciphering linguistic & semiotic codes, come on. Why do you follow such stuff?

Frankly I am a little disappointed.

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It is not a cheap shot and really how could I not read them as they are all clogging up the boards?

So you didn't ask me why I find the holocaust funny then? It certainly looked like one to me.


I don't need to defend my criticisms as they are there for all to see.

So I take it that's a 'no' then?


I am not the one posting 11 threads or whatever of one line wind-ups, including attacking women, jews, and black people.

No, but you implied substantially that I found the holocaust humorous. That could be seen as an attack of sorts, at the very least 'baiting'. I'm not offended, I just expected a more sophisticated response.


Really why would you even defend him and attack me?

I have come back to these boards after a two year hiatus, I have only just 'met' J L Wilson. I haven't found a reason yet to hound the bloke like some witch-hunting redneck posse, which is what it appears like to me.

I'm sorry, just where have I 'attacked' you? Show me the post.

I asked you to justify your position. That's all, I have not been offensive or charged you with finding the holocaust funny.

That's all.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Edit: Before I read your above post:

Anyway, why are we arguing? Let's just discuss the OP and have done with it.


Feminine culture - now there's an oxymoron.

Yes sure, women can't have culture because they are too stupid.

Well, maybe he is just being humorous? Ha, ha, ha...

Give me a break and don't invent nonsense about this troll.

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Yes I am very angry. No it is not just about G L Wilson. It is also a little deeper. It is about how people can get sucked into following such nonsense, deciphering linguistic & semiotic codes, come on. Why do you follow such stuff?

I was taught it at university & I need a knowledge of linguistics & semiotics for my profession. What's nonsense to you is knowledge to me.


Frankly I am a little disappointed.

Frankly, that doesn't surprise me somehow.

[Calidore]

If we're seeing something that you're not, maybe it's not us. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that what you see is all there is. We all have blind spots. G.L.'s way of thinking and expressing himself seems to fall into one of yours. Doesn't mean you're wrong to be rubbed the wrong way, but don't get mad at others who don't share your opinion. It's bad for the blood pressure, and life's too short as it is. Just do what Mutatis did: decide that you don't understand G.L., nor are you interested, and ignore him.

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Anyway, why are we arguing? Let's just discuss the OP and have done with it.

There's an OP? Wow!


Give me a break and don't invent nonsense about this troll.

Again, I tried to offer an explanation, even if it's nonsense to you, I didn't just describe the bloke as a troll.

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Good God. I'm sure it cost you more than five bob to learn to talk like that, but I'm not sure it was money well spent. Could you translate that into English, please?

Ermmm ... sorry, basically, don't always take what you read at face value. The slang word 'fanny' biologically has a totally different geographical meaning to me (an English person) than it does to an American.

I still break out into a smile when I hear Americans talking of 'fanny bags'.

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Ermmm ... sorry, basically, don't always take what you read at face value. The slang word 'fanny' biologically has a totally different geographical meaning to me (an English person) than it does to an American.

I still break out into a smile when I hear Americans talking of 'fanny bags'.

:-) I've heard about that. I have the same reaction to the English calling an eraser a "rubber." Asking for those here will get you directed to a pharmacy.

[LitNetIsGreat]

If we're seeing something that you're not, maybe it's not us. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that what you see is all there is. We all have blind spots. G.L.'s way of thinking and expressing himself seems to fall into one of yours. Doesn't mean you're wrong to be rubbed the wrong way, but don't get mad at others who don't share your opinion. It's bad for the blood pressure, and life's too short as it is. Just do what Mutatis did: decide that you don't understand G.L., nor are you interested, and ignore him.

Well maybe if you come away from this thread and you look at the masses of threads started by him today you might start to see the full picture.

And I do understand G.L. Wilson because he is an obvious troll as plain as day, if you don't then I am sorry for you.


I was taught it at university & I need a knowledge of linguistics & semiotics for my profession. What's nonsense to you is knowledge to me.

Frankly, that doesn't surprise me somehow.

Really? I wasn't knocking university education as I have studied at one of the world's best for the last seven years and hold a top class degree. I was merely knocking a racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-semitic - sorry you didn't spot him.

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:-) I've heard about that. I have the same reaction to the English calling an eraser a "rubber." Asking for those here will get you directed to a pharmacy.

Oddly, an old term for a condom in England was 'rubber Johnny' often just shortened to 'Johnny'.

If you ever live in Wales, make sure you know the Gaelic for both 'Ladies' & 'Gents' toilets.

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And I do understand G.L. Wilson because he is an obvious troll as plain as day,

Agreed

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Really? I wasn't knocking university education as I have studied at one of the world's best for the last seven years and hold a top class degree. I was merely knocking a racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-semitic - sorry you didn't spot him.

Good for you. There may be plenty of humourless trolls in the world, none of them appear to be J L Wilson to me.

Maybe I just can't see it.

Why not just put the bloke on ignore?

And put me on ignore while your at it ... PLEASE.

[BienvenuJDC]

Good for you. There may be plenty of humourless trolls in the world, none of them appear to be J L Wilson to me.

Maybe I just can't see it.

Why not just put the bloke on ignore?

And put me on ignore while your at it ... PLEASE.

Neely isn't the only one being annoyed by the trolling.

[Calidore]

If you ever live in Wales, make sure you know the Gaelic for both 'Ladies' & 'Gents' toilets.

They speak Gaelic in Wales? Are the two languages related?

[LitNetIsGreat]

Agreed

Thank you. I was thinking that I was the only sane one around at this time.


Good for you. There may be plenty of humourless trolls in the world, none of them appear to be J L Wilson to me.

Maybe I just can't see it.

Why not just put the bloke on ignore?

And put me on ignore while your at it ... PLEASE.

~Easy to do for you, and I will do that for sure, but not as easy to do for troll Wilson when half of the boards are full of homophobic, racist, anti-semitic, sexist stuff but I will try. Really though, maybe if you looked around you also might be able to see that too, never mind if not.

Good night.

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They speak Gaelic in Wales? Are the two languages related?

I wish I had a £1 coin for every American who doesn't think that Gaelic is spoken anywhere but in Ireland. There is Manx, Welsh, Cornish & Scots' Gaelic still spoken in the UK. They are all related to Irish Gaelic, Breton & some Spanish Gaelic dialects.

Welsh Gaelic is predominantly spoken in the north, nearer the Capital you will find most Welsh people, although mainly bilingual will speak English more often than Welsh.

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~Easy to do for you, and I will do that for sure, but not as easy to do for troll Wilson when half of the boards are full of homophobic, racist, anti-semitic, sexist stuff but I will try. Really though, maybe if you looked around you also might be able to see that too, never mind if not.

Good night.

Thanks, I appreciate your candour. I'm not offended that you have put me on ignore, that's why I requested it.

Nos da (That's Welsh for goodnight).

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Neely isn't the only one being annoyed by the trolling.

Apparently not. I suggest you utilise the ignore button.

[BienvenuJDC]

Apparently not. I suggest you utilise the ignore button.

Of course, trolling is against the rules. So it would be best for the rules to be graciously followed.

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Of course, trolling is against the rules. So it would be best for the rules to be graciously followed.

Well, I guess it's up to moderation then.