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cacian
05-11-2020, 09:08 PM
I think it’s fine on certain beaches. I went to one in Spain and went topless until I was grossed out by a troll. But in particular designated areas, I think people have a right to walk around in the nude in public. I think most mature people just enjoy being free and it’s less of an erotic state. I do not believe children should be exposed. It should be for adults only.

Surely freedom is beyond clothes or nudity. Freedom means something else. May be if we did not take our clothes willy nilly we would spend more time thinking about the environment and what surrounds us. Just because we can does not mean we should.
Nature has a say to believe it or not.
It perhaps does not think it is OK. One has to be sensitive to everything around them including nature and creatures.
Just saying.

tonywalt
05-12-2020, 11:12 AM
no I have not.

Good statue, small thingy.

cacian
05-12-2020, 11:55 AM
Good statue, small thingy.

Oh I see haha.
But then it could that the person behind the statue who had a hand on it must be telling us something.
It is all relative. Whilst the statue does not talk the sculpture does. It helps to bear that in mind me think.;)

cacian
05-12-2020, 12:06 PM
My opinion of public nudity as stated on this very thread is not completely forthcoming. If we can believe Robert Graves (and who doesn't?), it is public "nakedness" for which I am advocating. According to Graves, the nude, "grin a mock-religious grin / Of scorn at those of naked skin." I scorn not nakedness, especially when it goes about well shod.

How do you mean?

Ecurb
05-12-2020, 12:33 PM
Per Robert Graves:





For me, the naked and the nude
(By lexicographers construed
As synonyms that should express
The same deficiency of dress
Or shelter) stand as wide apart
As love from lies, or truth from art.

Lovers without reproach will gaze
On bodies naked and ablaze;
The Hippocratic eye will see
In nakedness, anatomy;
And naked shines the Goddess when
She mounts her lion among men.

The nude are bold, the nude are sly
To hold each treasonable eye.
While draping by a showman's trick
Their dishabille in rhetoric,
They grin a mock-religious grin
Of scorn at those of naked skin.

The naked, therefore, who compete
Against the nude may know defeat;
Yet when they both together tread
The briary pastures of the dead,
By Gorgons with long whips pursued,
How naked go the sometimes nude!

cacian
05-12-2020, 08:36 PM
Per Robert Graves:

wow I do not know what to say.
Thanks Ecurb for posting this.

tonywalt
07-30-2020, 04:49 PM
Oh I see haha.
But then it could that the person behind the statue who had a hand on it must be telling us something.
It is all relative. Whilst the statue does not talk the sculpture does. It helps to bear that in mind me think.;)

He may be saying that his model for David had a small willy? Is that what you mean?