Yeah, explain this away, so-called 'scientists'.

[MarkBastable]

I think we can all agree that this one's pretty watertight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDilRLCp2Pk&feature=player_embedded

[Musicology]

I have always wondered if we have to be members of the Freemasons to walk on the lunar surface ?

Around 6 months ago I noticed the NASA website deleted its question section on the (alleged) rotation of the earth after a mountain of criticism from those who were seeking some actual evidence for earth rotation. It was funny. The sign read 'This section is no longer receiving questions'. That was a bit of a disappointment since it came from the 'experts' at NASA. NASA in full retreat. One man offered free flights anywhere in the world if NASA could provide hard evidence of Earth rotation. Since he had compiled hundreds of flight times between two cities (from and to). They are virtually the same. He said he would accept evidence from any scientific study ever made. How disappointing that he never got a straight answer.

Good old NASA. Never a straight answer ! Earth rotation MUST be true because Galileo said so. With no evidence, of course. It must never be questioned. Welcome to 'modern science'. As for aliens, I think it's hogwash.

There may be other life in the universe. But it has been separated from us (and us from them) so that it will not be deluded by NASA.

The 'official' videos of NASA do NOT prove life on the Moon or on Mars. It proves only that more funding of NASA will shortly be requested.



I think we can all agree that this one's pretty watertight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDilRLCp2Pk&feature=player_embedded

[AuntShecky]

Just what we need--another conspiracy theory!

And I thought I was paranoid! Sheesh!

[DocHeart]

Totally compelling. The fact that NASA can't find a decent Photoshop artist is incredible. It's becoming a lost art {sigh}.

[Musicology]

Conspiracy theories are not the right term. Are they ? We use this term far too often to dismiss what we have never questioned. A conspiracy is a criminal act - and we are here discussing whether NASA have told the truth. Perhaps this is why NASA is really a short way of saying 'Never A Straight Answer' ? Or, 'I saw it on TV, so it must be true'.

Fortunately the things worthy of belief in this world are seen to be open to criticism. Amazing but true ! Except NASA of course. And a few thousand other things in our 'civilization'.



Just what we need--another conspiracy theory!

And I thought I was paranoid! Sheesh!

[BienvenuJDC]

:rolleyes5:

[Musicology]

Friendship is the wonderful ability to share one's heart with another. There are different levels of friendship, of course. Friendship allows us to to remain in public, while, at the same time maintaining our private selves.

[MarkBastable]

And I thought I was paranoid! Sheesh!


Don't worry - you are paranoid. But people are trying to trick you into thinking you're not.

[OrphanPip]

Mark, you do a fabulous impersonation of Music.

[qimissung]

That is the most dire and ominous music I have ever heard! I sense a great novel or movie! Alright, lit-netters! Who wants to adopt this plot line for their very own (if NASA will let you!)?

[OrphanPip]

I actually had a lecturer who worked as an astrobiologist for NASA, (Prof. H. Vali), he was a bit of an eccentric cook who fervently believed in life on Mars. His expertise was in micro-fossils, he worked on meteorites trying to find signs of life. If NASA was trying to hide signs of life they wouldn't be spending millions of dollars on it so that they could convince the US government to give them money.

I also attended a guest lecture from the NASA director of the Mars Rover program, who wasn't shy about expressing his disdain of the Bush administration and their choice to divert funds from Mars to a second lunar mission.

NASA is an organization of scientist and engineers these days, they're very boring people, not the conspiracy types. Finding signs of life would revitalize their increasingly marginalized funding in the US. Now they rely on working together with the Canadian and European space agencies because they just don't have the money to do all the research they want to do. It won't help that they no longer have the ability to send things into space without the help of the Russians until they build new spacecraft.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I definitely think it was possible for life to be on Mars. I actually think it highly likely, since it is shows so much evidence of having water on the surface, plus the compelling pictures of meteorites. I even think it's possible there's life on the moon--maybe even ant=y of our solar system's planets! But I'm thinking micro-organism life. There're no little green men, not in this solar system at least.

I found the video laughable. Literally. I liked this quote: "The moon is unlike any satellite in our entire universe." Wow! I didn't know we had catalogued all satellites in the universe.

And then this: "The moon was CONSTRUCTED as an Artificial Satellite." :lol: Who comes up with this stuff?

Around 6 months ago I noticed the NASA website deleted its question section on the (alleged) rotation of the earth after a mountain of criticism from those who were seeking some actual evidence for earth rotation. It was funny. The sign read 'This section is no longer receiving questions'. That was a bit of a disappointment since it came from the 'experts' at NASA. NASA in full retreat. One man offered free flights anywhere in the world if NASA could provide hard evidence of Earth rotation. Since he had compiled hundreds of flight times between two cities (from and to). They are virtually the same. He said he would accept evidence from any scientific study ever made. How disappointing that he never got a straight answer.
You learn something new everyday. The sun and everything else really does revolve around the earth, even with satellites in space that show other wise. :lol:

[qimissung]

I think it's entirely possible that there was a form of life on Mars millenia ago; ther did appear to be water there once.

I loved the pictures of the "disappeared" towers and cities.

[qimissung]

I think it's entirely possible that there was a form of life on Mars millenia ago; ther did appear to be water there once.

I loved the pictures of the "disappeared" towers and cities.

[Lokasenna]

You're wrong Mark!

I mean - LOL !!! Have you ever heard anything so stupid? LOL !!! This is nothing more than the workings of the crypto-facist, Zionist, Illuminati controlled Baylonian world Govern Ment.

I once owned a teapot. It was smarter than you.

The moon obviously does not exist. Can you show me actual proof of the moon ? No ! Because there is none! LOL !!!! The moon is a fake, caused by projecting a holographic image on to chemtrails in the air. And that is a FACT ! You like facts, don't you ?

The so-called 'moon' has been projected up there into space for decades to distract the people from important issues about Mozart, money, chemtrails, and the reality that the Earth is flat - and YOU bought it !!!! LOL !!!! You like reality, don't you ?!

So keep your eyes closed. Watch the ball game, and drink another beer. And remember everything you heard is true!


I think we can all agree that this one's pretty watertight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDilR...layer_embedded

[LitNetIsGreat]

You're wrong Mark!

I mean - LOL !!! Have you ever heard anything so stupid? LOL !!! This is nothing more than the workings of the crypto-facist, Zionist, Illuminati controlled Baylonian world Govern Ment.

I once owned a teapot. It was smarter than you.

The moon obviously does not exist. Can you show me actual proof of the moon ? No ! Because there is none! LOL !!!! The moon is a fake, caused by projecting a holographic image on to chemtrails in the air. And that is a FACT ! You like facts, don't you ?

The so-called 'moon' has been projected up there into space for decades to distract the people from important issues about Mozart, money, chemtrails, and the reality that the Earth is flat - and YOU bought it !!!! LOL !!!! You like reality, don't you ?!

So keep your eyes closed. Watch the ball game, and drink another beer. And remember everything you heard is true!

:lol: Brilliant. :lol:

[AuntShecky]

More "evidence" that LitNutters are the smartest, funniest
people in Cyber-"space":

--OrphanPip's response
--qimissung's sweet "let's all get along" replies (both of 'em) and
--Lokasenna's hilarious posting. (Have you ever considered doing stand-up, Lok?)

[Propter W.]

That is the most dire and ominous music I have ever heard! I sense a great novel or movie! Alright, lit-netters! Who wants to adopt this plot line for their very own (if NASA will let you!)?

It sounds like a Dan Brown book to me.

Anyway, awesome! I always knew there was life on Mars.

But seriously, I firmly believe life on Mars and other planets existed or still exists. I don't think there's intelligent life out there, nowhere near to us anyway, and that sort of makes me sad. Mankind: the smartest organism in the universe. Bummer, isn't it?

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Ummm, people, I'm 99% sure Mark is messing with us. It fits his personality, trust me. He's satirizing Musicology.

[Musicology]

It also fits the personality of NASA, that fake images should be associated with 'evidence'. But what do I know ? You saw it on TV, right ? And we all know that TV is great for sensible and serious discussions.



Ummm, people, I'm 99% sure Mark is messing with us. It fits his personality, trust me. He's satirizing Musicology.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I didn't see it on TV.

[Lokasenna]

He's satirizing Musicology.

He's not the only one...

[MystyrMystyry]

@Mutatis and qimmisung: What evidence do you have that there was water on Mars? Not those canyon river systems surely? They were caused by liquid methane, not water - Mars is too far from the sun to have H2O in any form other than ice

Not saying there couldn't be methane-based life-forms - I mean I've even met a few at the local - but I doubt it could spawn life, let alone sustain it

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I'm slow today, Lok (today isn't different from most days). Should've picked up on it, :lol:.

[Musicology]

Those are such great points they should immediately be censored by NASA. (AKA 'Never A Straight Answer').

And if liquid methane is confused with water or Mars is too far from the sun to have any water other than ice, this too may be ignored. In the interests of 'educmacation'.

Regards



@Mutatis and qimmisung: What evidence do you have that there was water on Mars? Not those canyon river systems surely? They were caused by liquid methane, not water - Mars is too far from the sun to have H2O in any form other than ice

Not saying there couldn't be methane-based life-forms - I mean I've even met a few at the local - but I doubt it could spawn life, let alone sustain it

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

@Mutatis and qimmisung: What evidence do you have that there was water on Mars? Not those canyon river systems surely? They were caused by liquid methane, not water - Mars is too far from the sun to have H2O in any form other than ice

Not saying there couldn't be methane-based life-forms - I mean I've even met a few at the local - but I doubt it could spawn life, let alone sustain it

It was part of my evidence, actually. I didn't know that. Couldn't there be water under the surface, though?

And that NASA means "Never A Straight Answer" just never gets old!

[OrphanPip]

@Mutatis and qimmisung: What evidence do you have that there was water on Mars? Not those canyon river systems surely? They were caused by liquid methane, not water - Mars is too far from the sun to have H2O in any form other than ice


The problem with that idea is that there simply isn't enough methane on Mars to make it possible.

Mars has experienced a lot of cooling. Because of its size its core cooled and solidified, which resulted in the loss of Mars' magnetosphere and probably contributed to the erosion of its atmosphere. It's hard to say what Mars could have been like in the past with an atmosphere that could sustain some sort of greenhouse effect. Liquid water is the most likely explanation of the erosion patterns on Mars, but it's still not definitive. We know that water (as ice and vapour) exists in far greater amounts on Mars than methane currently.


Although, I think volcanic activity is far more likely than methane. Mars is largely geologically inactive these days, but a few billion years ago it would have had volcanic activity that produced what looks like water erosion.

[MystyrMystyry]

I have no evidence for it being liquid methane nor any other liquid - but given the wide variety of planets/moons in this tiny solar system, I thought I'd suppose it was something other than water - I could have said beer

I was going to propose lava as the cause but got sidetracked into a Wikipaedia entry about Venus and Io and atmospheric sulphur dioxide, and then thought it might kill my case if I mentioned that the volcanic heat could melt the ice, and then yo'd have water on Mars

I don't know simply - Mars has some remnant of atmosphere doesn't it? In order for there to be duststorms - what's the atmosphere made of? The same stuff as the liquid component - carbon dioxide with traces of methane? That being about the same proportions of water molecules in air it makes sense that liquid methane is the likely culprit

I have no clue about its history - it has one helluva mountain in Olympus Mons - three times the height of Everest (is that measured from above sea level?), and yes, Mars had volcanoes, but Venus still has them (and atmospheric pressure 92 times that of ours - but it was too much to think about for a place I'm never going to visit)

Mars and Venus are like the opposite twins of extremely horrible - a pair of holes bookending Earth

Okay, so it may be that Mars' atmosphere was once like ours and the volcanoes created more greenhouses than it was worth for it to stick around, but at this point the entire subject of life on Mars is less than conjecture, more wishful thinking that we had a call from some long lost cousins across the void - are we that lonely?


'Hey Martians? How's it going? Just wondering - you got any new and interesting perspectives on the Universe? Any insights into the purpose of life?'

'No. You?'


When you consider that every living thing on Earth has descended from a mere one living cell - then yes, there's a possibility that given time and the right conditions there could have been unicellular organisms on all the smaller planets and even Pluto too, before it wizzed out into its distant elliptical orbit

[Musicology]

Yes, we have no bananas.

[MystyrMystyry]

What do you mean?

[MarkBastable]

Banana is a herb, you know. You do agree that, don't you? NASA want you to think it's a fruit. But there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL that banana is a fruit! LOL! Just Google 'is banana a fruit?' It's obvious to an idiot!

It's no coincidence that the song says 'yes, we have no bananas'. Because we don't! It's a herb! 'Scientists' know this and have for centuries! The BBC (Boost Bananas Corporation LOL!) peddle the fruit lie with the GovernMent's blessing.

But don't worry! Just keep eating them like good little consumers. With custard! How ridiculous to eat herbs and custard! LOL!

[Musicology]

Cities are NOT on Mars. Unless, of course, you believe NASA and are influenced by the heavily photoshopped productions on Youtube. Although the images are agreed to have been manipulated, by NASA themselves.

''But the aliens are a problem''. 'Everyone knows aliens are real', etc. To fix this growing international ''problem'' of UFO's and aliens, (which 'everyone knows is true') we will of course need to find a GLOBAL solution. That means lots more expensive NASA contracts. Including remarkable 'evidence' of Youtube 'cities' on other planets and photoshopped images of extraterrestrial 'forests'. It all helps to achieve the GLOBALIST control of our world. Because, as you know, we need an INTERNATIONAL response to this 'problem'. Our heroes in spacesuits will get lots of funding for their brave new globalist world.

Let's try to find the lunar rover on the Moon. Just turn the Hubble Telescope to the lunar surface and we will see if the lunar rover is really there.

Quick !! Commercial Break -

'Our cornflakes are better than THEIR cornflakes' etc.

[Lokasenna]

Cities are NOT on Mars. Unless, of course, you believe NASA and are influenced by the heavily photoshopped productions on Youtube. Although the images are agreed to have been manipulated, by NASA themselves.

''But the aliens are a problem''. 'Everyone knows aliens are real', etc. To fix this growing international ''problem'' of UFO's and aliens, (which 'everyone knows is true') we will of course need to find a GLOBAL solution. That means lots more expensive NASA contracts. Including remarkable 'evidence' of Youtube 'cities' on other planets and photoshopped images of extraterrestrial 'forests'. It all helps to achieve the GLOBALIST control of our world. Because, as you know, we need an INTERNATIONAL response to this 'problem'. Our heroes in spacesuits will get lots of funding for their brave new globalist world.

Let's try to find the lunar rover on the Moon. Just turn the Hubble Telescope to the lunar surface and we will see if the lunar rover is really there.

Quick !! Commercial Break -

'Our cornflakes are better than THEIR cornflakes' etc.

It's finally happened: Musicology has become a parody of himself.

[Musicology]

The gullibility and infantility of this generation is amazing. They believe science fiction is real. They really do. And the corporate media encourage them. It's sad. The images are already agreed to be fake. Cities on Mars !! I mean, how childish does it get ? Tell me you are not serious !!! It's ''Lost in Space'' again. They are away with the fairies.



It's finally happened: Musicology has become a parody of himself.

[Scheherazade]

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I would like to thanks everyone for providing this breath-taking display of intolerance towards those who happen to think differently from us.

This thread will now be closed.

Anyone who has any questions regarding my decision can PM me without any hesitation.

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