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Musicology
05-30-2011, 05:53 AM
Fukushima goes unreported in the news week after week. Why ? It is a tragedy far worse than any of its kind.

http://visionsgreen.com/?tag=fukushima-fire-goes-unreported-by-media

http://thecomingcrisis.blogspot.com/2011/04/breaking-news-72-fukushima-quake.html

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/fukushima-news-blackout-continues/3867

YesNo
05-30-2011, 09:06 AM
Perhaps in Japan there is more news about it.

Musicology
05-30-2011, 09:43 AM
That's as vague a statement as is possible.

Well, perhaps there is coming news about the spread of radiation over North America and Europe ? But don't quote me, will you ?




Perhaps in Japan there is more news about it.

Calidore
05-30-2011, 11:18 AM
Looks like more extremist conspiracy horsepoop. For example, Reuters, the BBC, and the Guardian all had stories about that April quake that the center link claims went unreported. Search "Fukushima" on any of those sites and you'll get nearly 400 (Guardian), nearly 800 (BBC), and over 2700 (Reuters) stories.

Suppressing stuff like that in the internet age is nearly impossible, and most people who claim otherwise are selling something.

Musicology
05-30-2011, 11:39 AM
You are so right Calidore.

I am selling the fact that no real news of Fukushima has been released in the mainstream corporate media for several weeks. No account of radiation levels, of what is happening at those plants, or of the fallout. No account of events in Japan. No reports of the damage or the state of things as they are on the ground. No reports of where the radiation has gone internationally, or its effects on humans and living things. From Japan to Europe (including North America and Europe). That's quite a fact, isn't it ? Perhaps the stuff just disappeared. Just vanished. Because it's not being reported. It has literally vanished from the mainstream news.

And you are going to show us differently. From the giant news corporations - aren't you ? So, please show us the updated situation with some accurate and recently provided details. Not weeks old newspaper reports with zero hard, measured, reliable information. From mainstream media reports of the last few weeks.

Clock Ticking.....




Looks like more extremist conspiracy horsepoop. For example, Reuters, the BBC, and the Guardian all had stories about that April quake that the center link claims went unreported. Search "Fukushima" on any of those sites and you'll get nearly 400 (Guardian), nearly 800 (BBC), and over 2700 (Reuters) stories.

Suppressing stuff like that in the internet age is nearly impossible, and most people who claim otherwise are selling something.

YesNo
05-30-2011, 12:07 PM
I stopped believing most of the stuff I read about those reactors soon after the event. Initially I read that they were safe and contained. Then they partially melted down, whatever that meant. Then they blew up. I could see what that meant.

I'd pretty much skip any article on them at the moment.

So what's happening there?

Musicology
05-30-2011, 12:13 PM
Your guess is as good as anyone else's. In the meantime, here is an ad from our corporate sponsors -

Our cornflakes are better than other cornflakes

And now - back to the studio -

Announcer - Welcome back ! Now, a Fukushima update after weeks of no news at all.....
(Waving of hands from the producer - camera quickly cuts disjointedly to another bowl of corporate cornflakes being made in slow motion - and....

'Our cornflakes are better than other cornflakes' etc.

ad nauseum

//



I stopped believing most of the stuff I read about those reactors soon after the event. Initially I read that they were safe and contained. Then they partially melted down, whatever that meant. Then they blew up. I could see what that meant.

I'd pretty much skip any article on them at the moment.

So what's happening there?

Vonny
05-30-2011, 12:35 PM
Is it okay for me to post if I try to make a "mature" contribution?

The mass media is a huge corporation. That's where the entire "conspiracy" lies. The media protects and encourages the corporate interests.

Also, the governments are owned and operated by the corporations. The news media exists to orchestrate this. It works through all kinds of subtle tricks, creating confusion, character assassinations.

It's not like everyone got together in a room "breathing together," (the true meaning of conspiracy) but there is a "confluence of interests." All of the corporate interests serve one another. There are a few contradictions within, but mainly... it's like a large river that has many small rivers that flow into it. The small rivers are all separate and have some distinct features, but once they merge into one river they are one.

(By this I mean, you have a someone selling a fitness product. And then you have someone selling junk food. If people are confused and don't know how to be healthy, they will waffle between buying all kinds of fraudulent fitness products and buying junk food. So there's never good advice. Take for instance that show "The Biggest Loser." I've never seen it, but from the little I've heard, it gives very mixed messages and poor advice which is going to lead to a lot of yo-yoing and loss of self-esteem. Loss of self-esteem is very valuable toward making consumers.)

It doesn't exist for the purpose it claims to, to inform us of news, or to entertain us (for our benefit.)

It is also in the mass media's interest to numb everyone's minds, and for inducing attention deficit disorder. Everyone is struggling with yo-yo dieting and trying to look like Paris Hilton. And so there will be no protests, only good consumers.

Emil Miller
05-30-2011, 12:59 PM
It is also in the mass media's interest to numb everyone's minds, and for inducing attention deficit disorder. Everyone is struggling with yo-yo dieting and trying to look like Paris Hilton. And so there will be no protests, only good consumers.

Vonny, I suspect that you are younger than most people on the forum and, if so, you will find when you are a little older that it doesn't take much to numb most people's minds and induce an attention deficit disorder.
And not everyone is yo-yo dieting and trying to look like Paris Hilton; at least, I'm not. :lol:

Vonny
05-30-2011, 01:19 PM
Emil, women are the largest consumers. They will be targeted more.

I got my idea about Paris Hilton and dieting from my oldest brother who is much older than I and whose wife (who was still older than he, hi Kim! :wave: she won't see me, she doesn't read, only plays video games) was a surgical nurse who came home every night and watched Sex in the City and Desperate Housewives, and my brother said his hair could have been on fire and she wouldn't have noticed.

Musicology
05-30-2011, 01:46 PM
There are two areas of mass literacy where, I think, the entire world would profit, immediately. The first is to publish and distribute millions of free atlases to the good reading people of the USA and UK. So that readers can know the locations of the countries where they are currently at war, militarily occupying, or planning to militarily occupy.

The second mass publishing opportunity that suggests itself to me is that all men and women should receive, free of charge, a diagram showing how to switch off their television sets and how, if that is too hard, to safely switch it off at the wall and pull out its electrical cable. With special MP3's offered free of charge for those who cannot read. This was the brainchild of a headmaster whom I know. So he gets the credit.



Is it okay for me to post if I try to make a "mature" contribution?

The mass media is a huge corporation. That's where the entire "conspiracy" lies. The media protects and encourages the corporate interests.

Also, the governments are owned and operated by the corporations. The news media exists to orchestrate this. It works through all kinds of subtle tricks, creating confusion, character assassinations.

It's not like everyone got together in a room "breathing together," (the true meaning of conspiracy) but there is a "confluence of interests." All of the corporate interests serve one another. There are a few contradictions within, but mainly... it's like a large river that has many small rivers that flow into it. The small rivers are all separate and have some distinct features, but once they merge into one river they are one.

(By this I mean, you have a someone selling a fitness product. And then you have someone selling junk food. If people are confused and don't know how to be healthy, they will waffle between buying all kinds of fraudulent fitness products and buying junk food. So there's never good advice. Take for instance that show "The Biggest Loser." I've never seen it, but from the little I've heard, it gives very mixed messages and poor advice which is going to lead to a lot of yo-yoing and loss of self-esteem. Loss of self-esteem is very valuable toward making consumers.)

It doesn't exist for the purpose it claims to, to inform us of news, or to entertain us (for our benefit.)

It is also in the mass media's interest to numb everyone's minds, and for inducing attention deficit disorder. Everyone is struggling with yo-yo dieting and trying to look like Paris Hilton. And so there will be no protests, only good consumers.

YesNo
05-30-2011, 02:05 PM
There are two areas of mass literacy where, I think, the entire world would profit, immediately. The first is to publish and distribute millions of free atlases to the good reading people of the USA and UK. So that readers can know the locations of the countries where they are currently at war, militarily occupying, or planning to militarily occupy.

The second mass publishing opportunity that suggests itself to me is that all men and women should receive, free of charge, a diagram showing how to switch off their television sets and how, if that is too hard, to safely switch it off at the wall and pull out its electrical cable. With special MP3's offered free of charge for those who cannot read. This was the brainchild of a headmaster whom I know. So he gets the credit.
I'd like to get a copy of that atlas.

I recently figured out how to program the cable remote to turn on and off the TV set, so I've got that one covered.

Scheherazade
05-30-2011, 02:20 PM
W a r n i n g

Please do not personalise your arguments.

Unless you accept that there will be those who question your views

-as well as those who agree with them-

please refrain from sharing them in a public forum.

Vonny
05-30-2011, 02:48 PM
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There are two areas of mass literacy where, I think, the entire world would profit, immediately. The first is to publish and distribute millions of free atlases to the good reading people of the USA and UK. So that readers can know the locations of the countries where they are currently at war, militarily occupying, or planning to militarily occupy.

The second mass publishing opportunity that suggests itself to me is that all men and women should receive, free of charge, a diagram showing how to switch off their television sets and how, if that is too hard, to safely switch it off at the wall and pull out its electrical cable. With special MP3's offered free of charge for those who cannot read. This was the brainchild of a headmaster whom I know. So he gets the credit.

We need this diagram also for the radio. I know many Christians who pride themselves on not owning a television, because Christians aren't "worldly." (I should add that they do sneak around and watch someone's television.) Instead of watching television, they get "the truth" from talk radio. The Christians' mission is to eliminate abortion and homosexuals. They don't notice that everything else they are hearing completely contradicts the Bible. They never ask the question: "Who would Jesus bomb? What country?" They buy into any worldview that will eliminate abortion and homosexuals. The only thing is that abortion and homosexuals will never be entirely eliminated. So they will fight ever more furiously.

However, Christians would never look at the diagram, because they see anything of "the world" as coming straight from the devil. There's no way to reach these multitudes, so it's set up perfectly.

The Fundamentalist-Christian mind is already susceptible to manipulation because they already have faith in something that isn't based on any fact, and is full of contradictions.

Emil Miller
05-30-2011, 02:59 PM
Returning to the subject of this thread, the Fukushima disaster has been heavily covered in the French press and the extent of the problem also called into question. In Saturday's edition of Le Monde there was an extensive article about farmers whose land was not damaged by the earthquake but who are inside the exclusion zone. They are risking their lives to go back and rescue some of their livestock that are starving, but the majority of the animals will have to be destroyed.
Interestingly, the German government has announced today that it intends to close all of its reactors by 2022 with 8 marked for immediate closure.

Vonny
05-30-2011, 03:04 PM
Time to get out for some sunshine.


ignore this post please! I don't know why I did this!

YesNo
05-30-2011, 03:11 PM
I've heard photoelectric and wind generation might be an alternative to nuclear power.

Calidore
05-30-2011, 04:15 PM
I already gave three of the largest; however, here are the links to make it easier.

http://www.reuters.com/search?blob=Fukushima

http://www.guardian.co.uk/search?q=Fukushima&section=

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=Fukushima

Your turn. Please provide links to "mainstream corporate media" outlets that turn up zero results for a search on "Fukushima" for the last few weeks--say, the month of May.

Musicology
05-30-2011, 06:01 PM
No, you have merely proved my point -

The first link you have given (below) says (and I quote) -

'Two Fukushima workers may have exceeded radiation limit'

Please !!! This is totally silly. We are talking about a discharge or radiation many times greater than Cherbobyl and all Reuters has to say of it is that two workers at Fukishima 'may have exceeded radiation limit'. I mean, what sort of intelligence do these people have ? What IS the radiation limit ? And where is the nuclear material ? What is the threat to the people of Japan ???

The article in the 'Guardian' newspaper says only that workers will be tested for radiation. Don't you know that nobody is working there ? They haven't worked there since the day when the stations were destroyed. For goodness sake, what about the population of Japan ? No answers ! As usual. Where is the nuclear material today ?

The BBC mentions that Fukishima is not ready for an approaching big storm. But for goodness sake, what is the radiation situation in Japan ? Where is the nuclear material today ? What is the current sitatuation for the inhabitants of Japan ? You know - that place in Asia ??

This just gets more and more ridiculous. These are NOT situation reports. They are nonsense.

You have NOT made it easier. You have proved that the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored. By the mainstream media. Week after week. It's pathetic.



I already gave three of the largest; however, here are the links to make it easier.

http://www.reuters.com/search?blob=Fukushima

http://www.guardian.co.uk/search?q=Fukushima&section=

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=Fukushima

Your turn. Please provide links to "mainstream corporate media" outlets that turn up zero results for a search on "Fukushima" for the last few weeks--say, the month of May.

Vonny
05-30-2011, 07:15 PM
No, you have merely proved my point -

The first link you have given (below) says (and I quote) -

'Two Fukushima workers may have exceeded radiation limit'

Please !!! This is totally silly. We are talking about a discharge or radiation many times greater than Cherbobyl and all Reuters has to say of it is that two workers at Fukishima 'may have exceeded radiation limit'. I mean, what sort of intelligence do these people have ? What IS the radiation limit ? And where is the nuclear material ? What is the threat to the people of Japan ???

The article in the 'Guardian' newspaper says only that workers will be tested for radiation. Don't you know that nobody is working there ? They haven't worked there since the day when the stations were destroyed. For goodness sake, what about the population of Japan ? No answers ! As usual. Where is the nuclear material today ?

The BBC mentions that Fukishima is not ready for an approaching big storm. But for goodness sake, what is the radiation situation in Japan ? Where is the nuclear material today ? What is the current sitatuation for the inhabitants of Japan ? You know - that place in Asia ??

This just gets more and more ridiculous. These are NOT situation reports. They are nonsense.

You have NOT made it easier. You have proved that the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored. By the mainstream media. Week after week. It's pathetic.

I don't pay a lot of attention to news because it's too disturbing. Much of what I know is second hand.

But I heard that what they did in the US, as the radiation increased and exceeded the allowable, safe limit, they simply doubled the allowable, safe limit.

I heard that in Europe where you are actually further from the disaster and receiving less effects, that the governments admitted that the radiation had reached unsafe levels.

It's scary.

The fact is though, there's no way we're escaping this. I'm grateful that I'm not a fetus. This is one reason I won't be having children. Question: How many people who are worried about radiation drink Coke? It does wonders for tooth enamel.

Calidore
05-30-2011, 09:26 PM
No, you have merely proved my point -

The first link you have given (below) says (and I quote) -

'Two Fukushima workers may have exceeded radiation limit'

Please !!! This is totally silly. We are talking about a discharge or radiation many times greater than Cherbobyl and all Reuters has to say of it is that two workers at Fukishima 'may have exceeded radiation limit'. I mean, what sort of intelligence do these people have ? What IS the radiation limit ? And where is the nuclear material ? What is the threat to the people of Japan ???

The article in the 'Guardian' newspaper says only that workers will be tested for radiation. Don't you know that nobody is working there ? They haven't worked there since the day when the stations were destroyed. For goodness sake, what about the population of Japan ? No answers ! As usual. Where is the nuclear material today ?

The BBC mentions that Fukishima is not ready for an approaching big storm. But for goodness sake, what is the radiation situation in Japan ? Where is the nuclear material today ? What is the current sitatuation for the inhabitants of Japan ? You know - that place in Asia ??

This just gets more and more ridiculous. These are NOT situation reports. They are nonsense.

You have NOT made it easier. You have proved that the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored. By the mainstream media. Week after week. It's pathetic.

I haven't proved that "the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored." All I have proved is that 1) the news isn't being ignored as you stated, and 2) what's being reported doesn't match your claims.

You have now changed or clarified your statement to read that accurate news isn't being reported. On what basis do you doubt the accuracy of Reuters', and BBC's, and the Guardian's reporting? That it doesn't agree with what you already know to be true? Fair enough, what are your sources, then?

You state that the discharge from Fukushima was "many times greater than Chernobyl." The comparisons I've seen, from the above news sources as well as an article in the Journal of Radiological Protection give the amount leaked from Fukushima at 10% of Chernobyl's output as of mid-April. Where did you get "several times" from?

All three of my referenced news agencies have reported at length about the plant worker's heroic efforts to mitigate the disaster. You claim nobody is in fact working there. Source?

You ask where the nuclear material is today. I have seen no reports of it being moved, so it's presumably still in the reactors. Do you have reason to believe differently?

Everything I've said is easily findable with a search on the three news sites I've been using (or more, with Google). The BBC, Guardian, and Wikipedia also have Fukushima vs. Chernobyl comparison articles. While any Wikipedia article should itself be taken with a grain of salt, their article on the Fukushima meltdown has just over 500 reference links, and their timeline has 200 more.

You've tossed out many claims, but with no attribution whatsoever. If you have credible information that the danger is much greater than reported, I'm sure many people would be interested, but unless you live near the plant, ignored the evacuation order, have your own geiger counter, and have seen with your own eyes that things aren't as the media have stated, you're going to need equally credible references to be taken seriously.

Mutatis-Mutandis
05-30-2011, 10:41 PM
Wow. I wasn't sure with the Mozart thread, but this and the Churchill thread of made it pretty clear you're just a conspiracy theory buff.

The answer why it hasn't been in the news for a while is because it's lost its sensationalism. End of story.

I guess no one landed on the moon, the US government orchestrated 9/11, and the Egyptian pyramids were built by aliens, also.

LitNetIsGreat
05-31-2011, 06:06 AM
Wow. I wasn't sure with the Mozart thread, but this and the Churchill thread of made it pretty clear you're just a conspiracy theory buff.

The answer why it hasn't been in the news for a while is because it's lost its sensationalism. End of story.

I guess no one landed on the moon, the US government orchestrated 9/11, and the Egyptian pyramids were built by aliens, also.

Oh yes you are right, but you need to add a lot more to the list than those as well - you wouldn't believe it (of the first two I'm certain have been discussed, the last one is probably in the pipeline).


I haven't proved that "the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored." All I have proved is that 1) the news isn't being ignored as you stated, and 2) what's being reported doesn't match your claims.

You have now changed or clarified your statement to read that accurate news isn't being reported. On what basis do you doubt the accuracy of Reuters', and BBC's, and the Guardian's reporting? That it doesn't agree with what you already know to be true? Fair enough, what are your sources, then?

You state that the discharge from Fukushima was "many times greater than Chernobyl." The comparisons I've seen, from the above news sources as well as an article in the Journal of Radiological Protection give the amount leaked from Fukushima at 10% of Chernobyl's output as of mid-April. Where did you get "several times" from?

All three of my referenced news agencies have reported at length about the plant worker's heroic efforts to mitigate the disaster. You claim nobody is in fact working there. Source?

You ask where the nuclear material is today. I have seen no reports of it being moved, so it's presumably still in the reactors. Do you have reason to believe differently?

Everything I've said is easily findable with a search on the three news sites I've been using (or more, with Google). The BBC, Guardian, and Wikipedia also have Fukushima vs. Chernobyl comparison articles. While any Wikipedia article should itself be taken with a grain of salt, their article on the Fukushima meltdown has just over 500 reference links, and their timeline has 200 more.

You've tossed out many claims, but with no attribution whatsoever. If you have credible information that the danger is much greater than reported, I'm sure many people would be interested, but unless you live near the plant, ignored the evacuation order, have your own geiger counter, and have seen with your own eyes that things aren't as the media have stated, you're going to need equally credible references to be taken seriously.

Your post is far too sensible and correct in everyway so expect to be ridiculed. :banghead:

Fukushima is a non-issue, there's no conspiracy here - next.

Musicology
05-31-2011, 06:57 AM
I am a 'conspiracy nut' because I am showing you that nobody is reporting on the largest ever nuclear catastrophe in the entire history of nuclear power generation ? Please !! Stop showing your foolishness.

Where is the nuclear fuel that was stored in vast quantities at Fukushima ? What is the fallout situation in Japan ? And worldwide ? How radioactive is the sea near Japan ? What are the levels of radiation in Japan ? The largest nuclear disaster and you talk of conspiracy theories ! The only conspiracy is the total news blackout on this tragedy. And the crazy situation that people like you have been totally dumbed down on the actual situation.

'Sensationalism' ? Gee !! 6 nuclear stations leaking TONS of radioactivity into the sea, and the atmosphere and it is 'sensationalism'. You are a fruitcake.


Wow. I wasn't sure with the Mozart thread, but this and the Churchill thread of made it pretty clear you're just a conspiracy theory buff.

The answer why it hasn't been in the news for a while is because it's lost its sensationalism. End of story.

I guess no one landed on the moon, the US government orchestrated 9/11, and the Egyptian pyramids were built by aliens, also.

Jesus wept.


Oh yes you are right, but you need to add a lot more to the list than those as well - you wouldn't believe it (of the first two I'm certain have been discussed, the last one is probably in the pipeline).



Your post is far too sensible and correct in everyway so expect to be ridiculed. :banghead:

Fukushima is a non-issue, there's no conspiracy here - next.

The articles you have posted give ZERO evidence of the current radioactivity threat to mankind from Fukishima. Do not kid yourself. This involved 6 nuclear power stations with TONS of leaking radioactive material. The dumping into the sea of hundreds of thousands of highly nuclear material. And a total news blackout on the threat to Japan and to the world.

Have another beer and watch the ball game.


I haven't proved that "the scale of the nuclear fallout is totally being ignored." All I have proved is that 1) the news isn't being ignored as you stated, and 2) what's being reported doesn't match your claims.

You have now changed or clarified your statement to read that accurate news isn't being reported. On what basis do you doubt the accuracy of Reuters', and BBC's, and the Guardian's reporting? That it doesn't agree with what you already know to be true? Fair enough, what are your sources, then?

You state that the discharge from Fukushima was "many times greater than Chernobyl." The comparisons I've seen, from the above news sources as well as an article in the Journal of Radiological Protection give the amount leaked from Fukushima at 10% of Chernobyl's output as of mid-April. Where did you get "several times" from?

All three of my referenced news agencies have reported at length about the plant worker's heroic efforts to mitigate the disaster. You claim nobody is in fact working there. Source?

You ask where the nuclear material is today. I have seen no reports of it being moved, so it's presumably still in the reactors. Do you have reason to believe differently?

Everything I've said is easily findable with a search on the three news sites I've been using (or more, with Google). The BBC, Guardian, and Wikipedia also have Fukushima vs. Chernobyl comparison articles. While any Wikipedia article should itself be taken with a grain of salt, their article on the Fukushima meltdown has just over 500 reference links, and their timeline has 200 more.

You've tossed out many claims, but with no attribution whatsoever. If you have credible information that the danger is much greater than reported, I'm sure many people would be interested, but unless you live near the plant, ignored the evacuation order, have your own geiger counter, and have seen with your own eyes that things aren't as the media have stated, you're going to need equally credible references to be taken seriously.

Gladys
05-31-2011, 07:17 AM
From the start of the nuclear accident at Fukushima I have looked, more or less in vain, to the Media for answers regarding the future outlook for the four Fukushima reactors, the spent waste storage, and adjacent ocean contamination. For instance:


What are expected radiation levels from each over coming months, years and decades?


To what extent is continued leakage of nuclear materials likely from these?


What nuclear difficulties will the accident present in final decommissioning, and what is a plausible timetable?

Are these questions taboo for the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the Japanese government, most nuclear experts worldwide, and the Media?

There have been only two nuclear accidents of this magnitude. In the first, the Soviets buried Chernobyl in concrete. But what is the likely end-game for the four reactors and spent fuel at Fukushima?

Musicology
05-31-2011, 08:52 AM
Hi Gladys,

Yes. The failure of the mass media to report on these events for weeks and to provide people in Japan, the Pacific and the world generally information on the true state of affairs is proof positive that misinformation and obscurantism is the deliberate agenda of the global news agencies. I am convinced this Fukushima tragedy has not yet ended. It has hardly begun. God help Japan. And all those who care.

But what are we to expect of corporate capitalism ? They build dozens of reactors in an earthquake zone and tell everyone that when they go wrong it's no more dangerous than a car accident. And people believe it. The world's most expensive and dangerous form of power generation. And they get away with it !! It's criminal.

They report two workers at the plant were injured ! Gee !! Those plants held more nuclear material than a thousand Hiroshimas. And it is now in the atmosphere and in the sea. How is that for the consumption of the jellyfish age in which we live ?


From the start of the nuclear accident at Fukushima I have looked, more or less in vain, to the Media for answers regarding the future outlook for the four Fukushima reactors, the spent waste storage, and adjacent ocean contamination. For instance:


What are expected radiation levels from each over coming months, years and decades?


To what extent is continued leakage of nuclear materials likely from these?


What nuclear difficulties will the accident present in final decommissioning, and what is a plausible timetable?

Are these questions taboo for the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), the Japanese government, most nuclear experts worldwide, and the Media?

There have been only two nuclear accidents of this magnitude. In the first, the Soviets buried Chernobyl in concrete. But what is the likely end-game for the four reactors and spent fuel at Fukushima?

Mutatis-Mutandis
05-31-2011, 09:18 AM
I don't determine what is sensationalist. I live in the US, and is something isn't happening in the US, it doesn't get reported unless catastrophic. The tsunami in general was forgotten in about a week. Unless it gives good video or huge amounts of people are dying, it won't get reported. I don't know what kind of news everyone else gets.
How do you know what information people are receiving around the world, by the way?

Also, no one called you a conspiracy nut, though the irony of you calling me a fruitcake was quite humorous.

And, finally, a friendly tip for forum use. When you quote someone, put your reply after the quote, not before it. It makes it somewhat ambiguous as to whom your "Jesus wept" comment pertains? Me or Neely? Plus, it's just logical--a reply goes after what you're replying to.

Emil Miller
05-31-2011, 09:21 AM
You are a fruitcake.

:lol: Time for another song.

http://youtu.be/EQfWWWTE8K4

Musicology
05-31-2011, 09:38 AM
The meek shall inherit the earth - and that's a fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibctIudG2k&feature=related

blithe spirit
05-31-2011, 11:13 AM
Is this one of those can't-see-the-forest-through-the-trees moments? Perhaps the media simply doesn't want to expose their cameramen and reporters to unsafe levels of radiation for on location reporting. And analysis may not be conclusive enough yet to make it any different than when we last heard. Or maybe the initial "event" is over and now the recovery process has moved on from news media into a new genre of Scientific American, National Geographic, Dateline, 60-Minutes, etc.

It IS odd though. A conspiracy theory is downright scary.

Musicology
05-31-2011, 11:30 AM
Yes, this seems likely.

However -

It is a simple thing to send a drone to measure the radiation levels at Fukushima and elsewhere in Japan. It is equally simple to find out what the radiation levels are elsewhere in Japan. And what is happening to the cities that were evacuated for nearly 40 miles around Fukushima. It is a simple matter to say if the food and plants are contaminated. And it is a simple matter to tell us if the tons of nuclear material is still there or in the atmosphere and the ocean.

But don't hold your breath. The answers never come.


Is this one of those can't-see-the-forest-through-the-trees moments? Perhaps the media simply doesn't want to expose their cameramen and reporters to unsafe levels of radiation for on location reporting. And analysis may not be conclusive enough yet to make it any different than when we last heard. Or maybe the initial "event" is over and now the recovery process has moved on from news media into a new genre of Scientific American, National Geographic, Dateline, 60-Minutes, etc.

It IS odd though. A conspiracy theory is downright scary.

Gladys
06-09-2011, 07:49 AM
Recent news make one seriously question the integrity of reporting of the nuclear accident at Fukushima. Were there no nuclear experts who could foresee the scale of the accident?

It now appears that three of the reactors experienced full meltdown soon after the Tsunami, that total radiation released is at least the same as at Chernobyl, and that considerable radioactive waste is finding its way into sewerage treatment plants.