Winston Churchill and Mussolini

[Musicology]

Winston Churchill and Benito Mussolini - image and reality.

Myth and historical reality -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy

http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl/mussolini-mi5.html

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/churchill-ordered-assassination-of-mussolini-to-protect-secret-letters_100422460.html

Churchill even once said: ‘Fascism has rendered a service to the entire world… If I were Italian, I am sure I would have been with you entirely’.

[hallaig]

I'm all for finding fascist credentials in the British and French establishment between the wars and it's documented that there were many people who preferred the idea of strong right wing governments in central Europe as a bulwark against the Soviet Union. However, you must remember fascism in the 20s was a new phenomenon, and some people including Churchill were responding to the strong ideas of patriotism and national regeneration coming out of Italy. You've also got to remember the British saw Mussolini as a valid ally against Hitler, ast least until the Stresa Pact collapsed in 1935.

[Musicology]

Churchill was a fraud. He was a drunken liar, an occultist shill and a stooge. A member of occultist fraternities and a ruthless man. A warmonger. As were his ancestors. He was a totally incompetent military leader in WW2 and was responsible for catastrophe after catastrophe. He was finally swept from office right after WW2 by a landslide vote when it was realised that he represented the usual elites.

As for Churchill's support (and that of the British state) for fascism (allied to the Nazis) this continued long after the 1920's. Even in to WW2. Judging by the Royal Family support and that of the British aristocracy for Hitler and his regime. (WOW !). And British Intelligence funded the dictator Benito Mussolini. Fact. As it did in MANY other conflicts.

Nothing in their system of politics is what it seems to be. These elites want global domination - and they always have. They will trash the Constitution and the laws of entire nations to get it. They will broadcast, live, their Babylonian weddings. Aided by the corporate media, the corporate political parties, the corporate police forces, the corporate law courts, and the corporate bankers.

Churchill later supported the European Union and was one of its most keen early advocates. But political union with a foreign power is expressly outlawed by the British Bill of Rights (which is the law) and which says (and I quote) - 'this nation shall not be subject to the laws or to the rule of a foreign power'. How about that for a plain, unanswerable fact ? That means Britain is not lawfully subject to the rule or laws of any foreign power. Doesn't it ? Yes it does ! Needless to say the British people were never given a promised referendum by politicians on EU membership, were they ? Nope ! They forgot that too. The CORPORATE government scammed the nation and has joined the EU - without any approval from the nation. So I stopped voting for these bandits. EU membership was an act of treason against the law and the people of this nation. Of course it was. The scam is to make you believe otherwise. Churchill represented the elites. As usual. So did Ted Heath. It was GOVERN MENT as usual. A private, corporate, club. Oath swearing liars.

In short, Churchill was a stooge. The elites bring to power Hitler, Mussolini and every corrupt fascist dictator. What's new ? Never trust politicians. They are slaves of the unelected, corporate dynasty. Their masters are not the people. They serve themselves and nobody else. Bail out the bankers, or what ? When the public are NOT even involved in their dirty deals. Run that past me again ?

Churchill was a con man. Of the corrupt politicians.



I'm all for finding fascist credentials in the British and French establishment between the wars and it's documented that there were many people who preferred the idea of strong right wing governments in central Europe as a bulwark against the Soviet Union. However, you must remember fascism in the 20s was a new phenomenon, and some people including Churchill were responding to the strong ideas of patriotism and national regeneration coming out of Italy. You've also got to remember the British saw Mussolini as a valid ally against Hitler, ast least until the Stresa Pact collapsed in 1935.

[stlukesguild]

Is it just me... and that is of course a rhetorical question... or is Robert coming completely unhinged lately?

[Patrick_Bateman]

Is it just me... and that is of course a rhetorical question... or is Robert coming completely unhinged lately?
I think he's seen his mozart theory for the Swiss cheese that it is and is trying to restore some respectability.

[hallaig]

I rather like Churchill's breakfast. A brace of snipe and a pint of Port.

[Musicology]

Yes, I must be St Luke's Guild,

These symptoms started when I turned off the television. Its been downhill ever since. I am now officially deficient in such important vitamins as CNN, NBC, BBC, SKY and dozens of other trace elements. Fortunately, I have to hand some geneticially modified vegetables and some fake vitamins from my local supermarket. That should fix it. Normal service will shortly be resumed.

:angel:


Is it just me... and that is of course a rhetorical question... or is Robert coming completely unhinged lately?

[Musicology]

His breakfast was more interesting than himself. That's the truth of it.

Winston Churchill was a child of the elite oligarchs of Europe. We all love these actors.



I rather like Churchill's breakfast. A brace of snipe and a pint of Port.

[Musicology]

You are right Patrick.

I was so absorbed in trying to count the holes in the Swiss manufacture of Mozart's life story that I felt the need to restore some public respectability. By proving my sanity to all the world on various topics. Nothing too controversial, of course ! A dangerous occupation in this feudal demonocracy of ours. I have thus decided to carry a sanity certificate with me, properly licenced by govern ment. And rubber stamped by my communitarian local government. To answer any critics. This was bought at great price and it even qualifies me to vote at the next corporate opinion poll - aka 'Election'. I am, as you see, a model citizen. And anyone who criticises globalism, chemtrails, GM foods, polluted tap water, vaccination programmes or futile wars in the Middle East will be criticised by me. I will give them lots of applause.


I think he's seen his mozart theory for the Swiss cheese that it is and is trying to restore some respectability.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

This thread has provided a nice lol, :nod:.

[Alexander III]

Music, on this site we are all elite feudal conservatives, who champion fascism and ogliarchy; obviously thats why no one is supporting you.

[JuniperWoolf]

Music, on this site we are all elite feudal conservatives, who champion fascism and ogliarchy; obviously thats why no one is supporting you.

It's true. We work for NASA too.

[Musicology]

Just keep voting for more of the demonocratic, corporate, globalist takeover of the world by bankers, corrupt politicians, and the industrial military complex. You deserve it. The corporate media will entertain you with circuses and soap operas in the meantime. And you will bail out more banks when the debt mountain collapses once again in a heap.

You get the GOVERN MENT you deserve. Have another beer !



Music, on this site we are all elite feudal conservatives, who champion fascism and ogliarchy; obviously thats why no one is supporting you.

[Musicology]

:yawnb:

Sure you do ! NASA - Never A Straight Answer




It's true. We work for NASA too.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Lighten up, Francis.

[Emil Miller]

Churchill was a fraud. He was a drunken liar, an occultist shill and a stooge. A member of occultist fraternities and a ruthless man. A warmonger. As were his ancestors. He was a totally incompetent military leader in WW2 and was responsible for catastrophe after catastrophe. He was finally swept from office right after WW2 by a landslide vote when it was realised that he represented the usual elites.

Down among Musicology's padlocked threads I came across this one that had previously escaped me and which miraculously remains open.
Admittedly, like all sacred cows, Churchill doesn't bear too much scrutiny by those not blinded by post-war propaganda, but it is wrong to suggest that the 146 seat Labour majority that swept him from power (a vote that would eventually lead to British bankruptcy in 1976) had anything to do with Churchill being an elitist. If that were the case, he would not have been re-elected in 1951.