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02-13-2003, 02:28 AM
For maximum fun:

1. Download a text copy of 1984.
2. Replace every reference to Emmanuel Goldstein with Osama Bin
Laden.
3. Replace every reference to the Thought Police with Homeland
Security.
4. Replace every reference to Big Brother with The President.

5. Read the text of the book.
TexaninNihon
03-11-2003, 09:27 PM
Yeah, whatever.
apstudent
03-11-2003, 09:29 PM
OK. no. Stupid Liberals!
piquant
03-26-2003, 10:45 PM
I thought it was funny! :D
waxmephilosophical
03-28-2003, 01:36 AM
I hope you don't expect many people to respond with a positive reply to that "funny" message. By calling Bush Big Brother, you imply that you have no freedom whatsoever and live under a dictatorship. Do you? I think not. That's why you have the freedom to post ignorant messages such as this
Munro
03-30-2003, 06:39 AM
I am in complete support with RandomFulmen. Any rational person who actually responds to what they read can see that the notion of 'total war' against an ever changing enemy for unclear reasons is exactly like the United States' war on Iraq. They won't stop there, and the enemy will change from war to war as the US looks for another country or region to control for its resources.
And as for Emmanuel Goldstein as the mysterious, elusive and hated enemy of the nation, Orwell couldn't have been more correct. Of course, when he was writing the novel in 1948 he had Leon Trotsky in mind as Stalin's scapegoat for the nation's problems. But the whole idea of an external and possibly non-existent figure, such as Osama bin Laden, and terrorism (which has recently replaced communism) as an unclear but possible danger to our well-being, used by the government to sway the masses into agreeing with their policy no matter how disgraceful it is.
And if we aren't living in the world of Nineteen Eighty-Four already, it sadly appears the Western world is headed in that direction.
Admin
03-30-2003, 11:38 AM
I'm just going to point out that you don't know what "total war" is.

Total war is what Sherman did in Georgia during the Civil War. It involves attacking the civilian infrastructure. Not killing civilians but burning down their houses and destroying all of their resources.

http://www.pbs.org/civilwar/classroom/lesson_sherman.html

Not quite what we're doing in Iraq.

I'm closing this thread because war discussions only get ugly and cause conflict. This isn't a politics forum.