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Yorick
02-07-2011, 03:55 AM
A poem I wrote for school, which I was pretty satisfied with. I'd love some criticism though.



As God’s land-clock turns, men’s
challenges change. When monkey-men
loped the land, their minds thought
naught of huts, of houses.
Man’s marvels change as church-clocks chime,
Sundry centuries slipping by.
Yet over all of man’s ages and epochs
One tireless tyrant’s terror cast a shadow over man.
Every single man has been a slave to
one force since the dawn of time – Sleep.
Sleeps slows sleepers to
Sluggishness, leaving slovenly slugs
Behind. Beowulf, brave battler, knew this
Well. Gross Grendel, Cousin of Cain,
Killed a friend of the lord of the Geats, and he who
Died is dead because he lay slack on his back-board.
So sleep, that breeder of slack and sloth
Torments and taunts the trials of men.

Thus, this dastardly despot has driven Man with
Its whip, year after year into its death-circle.
Sleep grinds men in to the ground again and again,
Until the day comes for their death-sleep and they
Breathe their closing breath. Sleep, the bringer of
Darkness, death, decided doom – it is a damned demon.

For as long as the mind-eye can see, no man
Or woman has held his head high enough to look
The sinister sleep in the eye and declare:
“Death to you, doom-bringer! Your dastardly darkness has
Driven men downwards far too long! It is your day of doom!”
No man has raised his hand and made the fist to
Punctuate this challenge. No man, it’s said, until
The strong, powerful, brave Sabinus, son of the sun
Strode to the face of that strange beast, looked into it fearlessly
And chose to crush the chains of
sleep, bringer of death.

A power of pure evil, men ask,
Menacing the land of man – why has this monster
Survived, stealthily stealing lives? Why is Sabinus, the sun-son,
The first, alone, to stand against that strange monster?
I will tell you why: fighting sleep is folly. That
Monstrous menace makes men so deep in its grasp
That they could struggle, wiggle and writhe and wriggle,
And not be free of sleep’s grasp. The strong, brave,
Young, naïve son of the sun would see, soon.

Sabinus challenged not the serpent of sleep
Out of boastfulness, bravery (brave the boy was);
The brave boy berated the beast from need, necessity.
Sabinus suffered from sloth and some slackness. Sleep
Fought the boy viciously, beat him quite easily.
The son of the sun was made not for the moon;
Each night he struggled to comfort himself, battled
The sleep-monster for rest and reprieve. Sleep he
Could not find, nor use to good end, his
Ardor and knowledge-lust making sleep worthless.

Each night young Sabinus, neglecter of sleep,
Would read, write and reason in lieu
Of his bed-box. Each then night the young boy
Would sleep but very little, and often at dawn
His eyes remained open from previous dawns,
Weaving winding days long into one great day-thread.

These nights, it is said, are of great strangeness and note,
For the son of the sun slept not, that is sure;
He had help from the heavens, the boy.
God gave the boy gifts. His quest was quite
Brave, and the Lord Almighty bestowed upon
Young Sabinus this gift to aid him in his adventure.

Yet the young Sabinus was soon to find out of
The weight, the weakness, the wear on the eyes
That have not known the sweet, sweet rest of sleep.
His mind turned to meat-mush with much
Slosh and splash, his thoughts seeming splattered
To the point of all-lost. His father, great Seneca,
Sun-warrior, scolded young Sabinus of sloth
And stolidity. Septima, sister of Sabinus
Worsened matters. While Sabinus strained
and struggled with the bonds of sleep-slavery,
Septima was a loyal sleep-servant. Sabinus saw the sun
Set and saw it rise for days on end; for days on
end, Septima, timid, submissive, meek, slept through
The sets and rises. When the wind came form the West
In the morning for waking time, Septima slept still.
When at last she leisurely lifted her legs, she was lonely
In the sleeping quarters. The hours Septima spent with
Eyes open she showed shocking vigor. Straight
And alert, the sister of Sabinus sang and
Danced. When old Seneca, saw Septima, he saw Sabinus too.
The sun-warrior saw sleep strangle Sabinus. The
Sleep-monster’s strangle stifled his wit. With
His father, he dozed, drawing ire from many. Soon,
Sabinus saw a sadness that was true. Sleep conquered
Everything, earth, eye and animal. Stubborn Sabinus
Could not conquer sleep. Yet he still tried, brave and naïve
As a boy. Bound and determined, he stayed to his task,
The sleep-monster wearing, wooing, waiting, until
The day the death came, young Sabinus went, and with
Him the last leader of life’s legions.

hillwalker
02-07-2011, 09:13 AM
The effort you must have put into creating this is incredible. I'll admit I struggled to get to grips with it - given its length and wealth of references to the classics.

I am unable to comment on the content as I don't know enough about the characters mentioned - apart from Beowulf and Grendel.

But there are enough good parts - and enough weaknesses - to warrant some feedback on this as a 'poem' :

First of all, parts of it read very much like prose chopped up into poem-sized lines. There were times when I thought I was reading a Wikipedia entry rather than poetry towards the end.

Secondly - there's a lot of repetition that seems unnecessary. This could be a much more effective piece with some tightening up and trimming down.

And finally - if you try reading this out loud - the test of how well a poem works - you might well find that in places the alliteration is rather overdone. There are loads of marvellous sounds in much of what you have written here, but it gets a bit too much to handle.

Lines like

Darkness, death, decided doom – it is a damned demon.

and

Sabinus suffered from sloth and some slackness. Sleep

are enough to dislocate the jaw and give the impression you were trying too hard to fill each line with alliteration. In the end the poem becomes overwhelmed by it all.

Excellent effort - but in this instance your enthusiasm stampeded through much of it flattening everything else in its path.

H

everyadventure
02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
Hello, friend, I haven't met you yet! Good to see some fresh poetry on here!

A couple things: this read a bit like a tongue twister. Some well-placed alliteration, some repetition of sound, can often make the words of a poem glide smoothly into each other. But you may have taken it a little too far; it served instead to distract the reader from the plot, and at times seemed to sacrifice what might have been a "perfect" word for one that started with the same letter instead. "dastardly despot / dastardly darkness" were particularly wince-worthy.

Speaking of plot, the style here seemed closer to a short story than a poem, almost as thought it WAS a short story and you hit enter every few lines to break it up. Don't misunderstand, it would make a decent story! But if you'd like it to be a poem, consider tightening it up. EVERY word in a poem should have value, weight; if it doesn't, out it goes! Some examples: "and some slackness," "that is sure," "saw a sadness that was true" (wouldn't "saw truth" do?)

Okay, now on to the good stuff. First, know I wouldn't bother spending my time writing all this if I didn't see potential in your work! I enjoyed the subject matter; it isn't something people really think about. But you know what would intrigue me even more? If you also brought in the point that, even though sleep is our inevitable end, we still NEED it, DESIRE it, LONG for it. You speak as though we all hate evil sleep, when in fact, we pine for it! It adds another dynamic to the battle; this lusting for the very thing that will ultimately destroy us.

Some notable lines that I enjoyed: "When monkey-men / loped the land" was a good one! It's tight; you might have said "when men who were like monkeys / loped across the land" instead, and that would have been a no-no! Very well done here.

Also, "made the fist to/Punctuate this challenge." Punctuate was an original word choice, excellent imagery, it brought to mind the word "punch" and also the shape of the fist curled into a period.

Definite potential here, I can't wait to see more of your work! Now, I'm going to go back and see what the wise Hillwalker has said, as I hate reading others' opinions first, lest they taint my own...

PrinceMyshkin
02-07-2011, 10:51 AM
It's an astounding piece of work! Yes, I held my breath a few tines, afraid that you were going to get carried away by your skill at alliteration (your GREAT skill at it, I should say) but only once, v 6 l 3: "“Each then night” did I feel that the language was self-consciously Literary, archaic...

Welcome to the Forum! You bid fair (to indulge in a bit of Literary preening myself) to be a treasured addition here.

Delta40
02-07-2011, 04:35 PM
I enjoyed the epic tale of Sabinus and sleep. I have never thought of sleep as a beast but you framed this beautifully. Others can point out whatever shortcomings there are to improve this already interesting piece.

Great writing Yorick. Do I say alas, I know him now?

Yorick
02-07-2011, 09:04 PM
But you may have taken it a little too far; it served instead to distract the reader from the plot, and at times seemed to sacrifice what might have been a "perfect" word for one that started with the same letter instead.

I kinda knew this was happening, but I just kept going with it. I went way over the top with alliteration. Thanks for getting me to face the truth on that one. I really enjoy putting those strings of sounds together, but it just sounds silly sometimes.


Speaking of plot, the style here seemed closer to a short story than a poem, almost as thought it WAS a short story and you hit enter every few lines to break it up.

Yeah, I definitely get that point too. I was modeling this after (or kind of paying tribute to) Seamus Heaney's translation of Beowulf, and I over-focused on the things that impressed me about it (the storytelling, the sounds of the language). The flat-sounding prose stuff is something I'd like to be rid of.


If you also brought in the point that, even though sleep is our inevitable end, we still NEED it, DESIRE it, LONG for it.

Oooh yeah! That's really cool. I didn't think of that. See, what really inspired me to write this is the fact that a lot of the people I know (including myself) have a hard time getting enough sleep. Writing this was mostly fueled by bitterness towards what sleep deprivation does to you, but adding the craving and desire for sleep in there is a really cool idea. Thanks!


I am unable to comment on the content as I don't know enough about the characters mentioned - apart from Beowulf and Grendel.

Actually, I just made all of the other guys up. Do you think I need to make that more clear here? The fact that i mention Beowulf and then go off into a completely unrelated set of fabricated characters is kind of confusing, isn't it?


there's a lot of repetition that seems unnecessary. This could be a much more effective piece with some tightening up and trimming down.

I can definitely see where you're coming from here. I tend to write like that. For me it kind of feels natural, but to the reader it must seem pretty tiresome.

I'll be back around tomorrow with another draft, I think. Thanks for all the compliments and feedback, guys! Soon this could be something I'm really proud of.

EDIT: And thanks for all the welcomes, too! This is such a great place.

everyadventure
02-07-2011, 10:11 PM
"Writing this was mostly fueled by bitterness towards what sleep deprivation does to you"
I love how you pulled your inspiration from a real-life experience (and haven't we all been there!) but then managed to weave this tale with your fantastic imagination.

I'm glad you took our comments in the spirit they were intended. You'll always find an honest and attentive audience here! Really looking forward to Take II!

hillwalker
02-08-2011, 06:45 AM
So you made up your own mythology - no need to apologise or make it clear to the reader. I think it's brilliant you conjured up such an authentic piece of writing.

H

blank|verse
02-08-2011, 02:04 PM
Yes, you can almost smell the sweat that has gone into chiselling this one into being!

It's a great example of an alliterative poem, but for me that's also its greatest weakness. The poem is very slow to read and feels archaic, but I accept that's part of the point.

Anyway, the subject of the poem reminded me of this famous scene:

MACBETH
Methought I heard a voice cry 'Sleep no more!
Macbeth does murder sleep', the innocent sleep,
Sleep that knits up the ravell'd sleeve of care,
The death of each day's life, sore labour's bath,
Balm of hurt minds, great nature's second course,
Chief nourisher in life's feast,--

LADY MACBETH
What do you mean?

MACBETH
Still it cried 'Sleep no more!' to all the house:
'Glamis hath murder'd sleep, and therefore Cawdor
Shall sleep no more; Macbeth shall sleep no more.'

Yorick
02-08-2011, 10:51 PM
@everyadventure: Thanks. It was really enjoyable too write. In the end I think I indulged a little bit too much...

@hillwalker: Yeah, I guess it's actually good that I was able to weave them into real mythology enough that they could mistaken as the same. Thanks.

@blank|verse: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna work on that for take two. I'd like the alliteration to be noticeable, but more like the flowers by the side of the road and less like a billboard. That's also a sweet connection to Macbeth. That play was really my first dip into Shakespeare and it holds a dear place in my heart.

Also the second version of this might take a little bit longer than I thought. Forgot to factor in the black hole that is homework. D'oh!