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ghoti
12-14-2010, 03:46 PM
Hello,
first i want to know what's the different between paradox and oppositions? because i don't differentiate between them
and i need examples of paradoxes in Yeats' poetry especially in
second coming
sailing to byzantium
fisherman
easter 1916
than you
Mutatis-Mutandis
12-17-2010, 12:04 PM
A paradox is a contradiction, or something that disagrees with itself. For example, these are some paradoxes from Orwell's 1984
"War is peace."
"Freedom is slavery."
"Ignorance is strength."
How can war be peace, or freedom be slavery, or ignorance strength? They are complete opposites, yet claim in these statements to be the same.
Oppositions are similar in that they also deal in opposites, but when there is an opposing statement, the statement does not claim the two opposing factors are one-in-the-same (since that would make them paradoxes). So, if we took those paradoxical statements above and made them into statements of opposition, they would be:
"War versus peace."
"Freedom versus slavery."
"Ignorance versus strength."
See the difference?
Uroboros1989
12-19-2010, 06:11 AM
Easter 1916:
Parados: Irishmen are repressed by Englishmen, during the uprising originally victims become beasts to some extent, their "stony hearts" make them resemble Englishmen. They are thirst for blood (vicious circle)
A paradox is a contradiction, or something that disagrees with itself. For example, these are some paradoxes from Orwell's 1984
"War is peace."
"Freedom is slavery."
"Ignorance is strength."
How can war be peace, or freedom be slavery, or ignorance strength? They are complete opposites, yet claim in these statements to be the same.
Oppositions are similar in that they also deal in opposites, but when there is an opposing statement, the statement does not claim the two opposing factors are one-in-the-same (since that would make them paradoxes). So, if we took those paradoxical statements above and made them into statements of opposition, they would be:
"War versus peace."
"Freedom versus slavery."
"Ignorance versus strength."
See the difference?
Ignorance isn't the opposite of Strength. that isn't a paradox. For instance, someone is ignorant of something so terrible that they are able to remain strong and succeed, when if they weren't ignorant, they would fail. For instance, the character of Sigfried in Wagner's Ring knows not fear, is ignorant that he can be harmed, and is thus, in the 3rd opera of the cycle, able to overcome the dragon, the two Nibelungs, and finally, fire.
hanzklein
12-19-2010, 04:37 PM
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about either. Maybe you mean opposites and contrasting extremes in Yeats' work?
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