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ghoti
11-17-2010, 06:49 PM
Hello

i want a greek allusions on literature, i did it for Shakespeare only and i want more works about other authors please


Help me please

dfloyd
11-17-2010, 07:12 PM
Do you want a reference book to look up allusions to Greek or Roman literature? If so, 'the concise Oxford Companion to classical Literature" at about $15 is your best bet.

Alexander III
11-17-2010, 07:27 PM
There are many greek allusions in Joyce's Ulysses, its an easy and short read, give it a go.

kelby_lake
11-18-2010, 06:43 AM
There's some in American plays...

I imagine there's quite a few in 19th century poetry, the romantics and whatnot.

Seasider
11-18-2010, 07:35 AM
For example Mourning Becomes Electra by Eugene O'Neill. This is a reworking of part of the Orestaia of Aeschylus dealing with the murder of Agamemnon by his wife Clytemnestra when he returns after the Trojan Wars. O'Neill updates it to the American Civil War.

Ane
11-18-2010, 09:54 AM
its an easy and short read, give it a go.

HAHAHA! Good one! :D

Anyway, there are countless allusions out there, if you start looking for them. The first one that sprang to my mind was the descriptions of Tadzio and the Dionysean orgie references in Thomas Mann's Death in Venice.

kelby_lake
11-18-2010, 11:38 AM
There's some in Tess of The D'Urbervilles.

k.brignell
11-19-2010, 05:16 AM
There are many references to Greek philosophy, mythology and tragedy in 'The Secret History' by Donna Tartt and 'The Great Ideas' by Suzanne Cleminshaw (both novels). 'The Great Ideas' may be hard to find but it is well worth a read. (Interesting fact - Cleminshaw is Buzz Aldrin's neice.)

Wilde woman
11-19-2010, 03:26 PM
Neil LaBute's three-act play, Bash, is a rewriting of two Classical tragedies - Iphegenia and Medea.

kelby_lake
11-19-2010, 04:38 PM
Neil LaBute's three-act play, Bash, is a rewriting of two Classical tragedies - Iphegenia and Medea.

I'll second this. A recent LaBute trilogy also had a lot of Greek undertones.

k.brignell
11-19-2010, 06:14 PM
also 'Ransom' by David Malouf is a reworking of the Illiad. I haven't read it so I can't really comment on it, but I watched the review of it on 1st Tuesday book club (Australian ABC) and it looked interesting.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/firsttuesday/s2549929.htm

hazelk
11-21-2010, 01:52 AM
also 'Ransom' by David Malouf is a reworking of the Illiad. I haven't read it so I can't really comment on it, but I watched the review of it on 1st Tuesday book club (Australian ABC) and it looked interesting.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/firsttuesday/s2549929.htm

I also watched FTBC and I have read the book, I just loved it, I had my book of mythology nearby and David Malouf had really done his homework well. I again say I loved the book and just about anything that David Malouf writes:D:D

ghoti
11-21-2010, 09:44 AM
thank you
and what about drama ?? i searched in many plays but i didn't find things as in Shakespeare :(

kelby_lake
11-21-2010, 10:16 AM
thank you
and what about drama ?? i searched in many plays but i didn't find things as in Shakespeare :(

As Wilde woman said, Neil Labute's stuff has quite a few allusions. Mourning Becomes Electra by Eugene O'Neill is an update of the Oresteia. Orpheus Descending is loosely based on the Orpheus/Eurydice myth.

JuniperWoolf
11-21-2010, 06:42 PM
Well, there are only about seven bazillion...

My favorite is Cat on a Hot Tin Roof when Brick and Skipper's relationship is compered to a greek tradgedy.

ghoti
11-22-2010, 09:35 AM
Do you Greek allusions in Harry Potter ???
please give to me

Seasider
11-22-2010, 09:38 AM
Harry Potter's All Greek to Me!

kelby_lake
11-22-2010, 09:51 AM
Do you Greek allusions in Harry Potter ???
please give to me

I can't recall any at the moment...maybe the centaurs and hippogriffs? JK Rowling did study Classics at university I think so there may be allusions.

Wilde woman
11-27-2010, 07:45 PM
Do you Greek allusions in Harry Potter ???
please give to me

I believe there are quite a lot, but the ones that jump to mind are simply the names of the characters:

Hermione - is the name of a Greek princess, daughter of Helen, abducted by Neoptolemus during the Trojan War (she is mentioned briefly in the Odyssey) and later married to Orestes.

Minerva McGonagall is named after the Roman goddess of war and wisdom.

And I seem to remember thinking that a lot of Voldemort's backstory reminded me of the Oedipus story. I think his mother's name, Merope, is a Greek allusion.

Mutatis-Mutandis
12-17-2010, 12:07 PM
Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief! A truly amazing piece of literature that rivals even the greatness of Twain, Dickens, Joyce, and Fitzgerald.