Stories with holes. new!

[alberich]

Hi everybody!
Ive just logged in. I was searching on google some stories with holes and i found this page where Snuke started an online game with yes or no questions in order to complete the story. I also say hello to scheherazade who continued with some other stories.


As a fan of this game I want to share anotherone!

"If he had seen the sawdust, he wouldn't have died"

good luck!
if u already know this one, let the others guess

[Scheherazade]

Did he die because he fell from somewhere?

Is someone else responsible from his death?

[papayahed]

Was the sawdust on the floor?
Was the dead guy a construction worker?

[papayahed]

Did anybody see the dead guy die?

[Silas Thorne]

Was he in a sawmill?

[alberich]

Did anybody see the dead guy die? no
Was the sawdust on the floor? yes
Was the dead guy a construction worker? no
Did he die because he fell from somewhere? no
Is someone else responsible from his death? yes
Was he in a sawmill? no

[Scheherazade]

Did something fall on him?

Is the location crucial in solving this mystery?

Is the motive for the murder crucial?

[alberich]

Did something fall on him?
no
Is the location crucial in solving this mystery?
yes
Is the motive for the murder crucial?
yes


...................................

[papayahed]

Did he die outside?
Did he die inside?
Did the sawdust contribute to his death?
Was he burned in any way?
Did he commit suicide?

[alberich]

Did he die outside?
no

Did he die inside?
yes

Did the sawdust contribute to his death?
mmmm no (If he had seen it... he wouldnt have died)

Was he burned in any way?
no

Did he commit suicide?
yes

.......................

[Scheherazade]

Do you mean to say that if he had seen the sawdust, he wouldn't have committed suicide?


Did someone else bring the sawdust from somewhere else?

[alberich]

Do you mean to say that if he had seen the sawdust, he wouldn't have committed suicide?
yes

Did someone else bring the sawdust from somewhere else?
no

........................

[Scheherazade]

Did he decide to kill himself because he thought his death was inevitable where he was?

Was the sawdust an indication of a some kind of a rescue?

Did an animal play a role in this story?

[alberich]

Did he decide to kill himself because he thought his death was inevitable where he was?
yes

Was the sawdust an indication of a some kind of a rescue?
no

Did an animal play a role in this story?
no
.....................

[papayahed]

Was he at a construction site?
Was the method of suicide apparent?
Did someone set the scene to make the dead guy commit suicide?
Did anybody gain anything by the guy's death?

[alberich]

Was he at a construction site?
no

Was the method of suicide apparent?
mmm... what do you mean by that? Rephrase your question please. =)

Did someone set the scene to make the dead guy commit suicide?
no

Did anybody gain anything by the guy's death?
no


:thumbsup: sorry guys! hahaha this is a hard one but nice one.

[Scheherazade]

Earlier you said that someone else was responsible for his death...

Did that person hide the sawdust?

Also, was the dead person trapped somewhere?

If so, did the other person trap him there?

Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life?

[alberich]

Earlier you said that someone else was responsible for his death...
yes
Did that person hide the sawdust?
no
Also, was the dead person trapped somewhere?
no
If so, did the other person trap him there?
no
Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life? ("...where WE would visit in everyday life") no
the last question is important! where?

[alberich]

"If he had seen the sawdust, he wouldn't have died"

His death:
Suicide! he realy was killed by himself
Did anybody see the dead guy die? no
Did anybody gain anything by the guy's death? no
Was he burned in any way? no
Did he fell from somewhere? no

*Someone else is responsible from his death / Did that person hide the sawdust? no (That person??) you are assuming things

he died inside
was the dead person trapped somewhere? no
Did the sawdust contribute to his death? no


The dead person:
Was the dead guy a construction worker? no
Did he decide to kill himself because he thought his death was inevitable where he was? yes... but

Location:
the location Is crucial to solve this mystery
Was he in a sawmill? no
Was the sawdust on the floor? yes
Did someone else bring the sawdust from somewhere else? no
Was he at a construction site? no
Did someone set the scene to make the dead guy commit suicide? no
Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life? no


Holes in this story:
Who or Whom - responsible from his death
Why - suicide
How did he commited suicide
sawdust???
Where
Work or profession
etc etc


There are a lot of questions to elaborate. So feel free to ask as many of them in the same quote
:yawnb: come on!!! :banghead:

[papayahed]

Was the method of suicide apparent?
mmm... what do you mean by that? Rephrase your question please. =)

If somebody saw the dead guy would it be obvious how he died? (ie, gun shot wound, stabbing?)


Was the dead guy at the location because of his job?
Was the sawdust made by humans?
Was the sawdust made by Termites?

[alberich]

If somebody saw the dead guy would it be obvious how he died? (ie, gun shot wound, stabbing?)
Yes!

Was the dead guy at the location because of his job? Yes / No
Was the sawdust made by humans?yes
Was the sawdust made by Termites?no

.........

[hoope]

"If he had seen the sawdust, he wouldn't have died"

His death:
Suicide! he realy was killed by himself
Did anybody see the dead guy die? no
Did anybody gain anything by the guy's death? no
Was he burned in any way? no
Did he fell from somewhere? no

*Someone else is responsible from his death / Did that person hide the sawdust? no (That person??) you are assuming things

he died inside
was the dead person trapped somewhere? no
Did the sawdust contribute to his death? no


The dead person:
Was the dead guy a construction worker? no
Did he decide to kill himself because he thought his death was inevitable where he was? yes... but

Location:
the location Is crucial to solve this mystery
Was he in a sawmill? no
Was the sawdust on the floor? yes
Did someone else bring the sawdust from somewhere else? no
Was he at a construction site? no
Did someone set the scene to make the dead guy commit suicide? no
Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life? no


Holes in this story:
Who or Whom - responsible from his death
Why - suicide
How did he commited suicide
sawdust???
Where
Work or profession
etc etc


There are a lot of questions to elaborate. So feel free to ask as many of them in the same quote
:yawnb: come on!!! :banghead:

I was reading the other members' comments inorder to get it .. :D
Well i guess i understood now.. couldn't u have posted this earlier :P

I will try to participate later coz its late and i have to sleep..

Good game :thumbsup:

[AdoreroDio]

Does his job involve wood?
Did the sawdust fall from somewhere (ie the ceiling)?
Was the guy in love?
Did he kill himself because he had no hope?
Did he kill himself because he was depressed over something?
Is he below ground?
Is he near water?
Did he kill himself with a gun?
Did he kill himself with a rope?
Did he kill himself with poison?

[alberich]

Does his job involve wood? No
Did the sawdust fall from somewhere yes
(ie the ceiling)? No
Was the guy in love? No
Did he kill himself because he had no hope? Yes
Did he kill himself because he was depressed over something? Yes
Is he below ground? No
Is he near water? No
Did he kill himself with a gun? Yes
Did he kill himself with a rope? No
Did he kill himself with poison? No
........... Good!

[papayahed]

Did the gun belong to the dead guy?
Was the dead guy trapped in someplace?
Did the dead guy have the gun because he was going to this place?

[alberich]

Did the gun belong to the dead guy? Yes
Was the dead guy trapped in someplace? No
Did the dead guy have the gun because he was going to this place?no


Try asking about him... Obtain more details of his life. What does he do, where is he?

[papayahed]

Does the dead guy carry the gun for his job?
Was the guy a police officer?
Did he die in a warehouse?
A school?
A house?

[alberich]

Does the dead guy carry the gun for his job? no
Was the guy a police officer? no
Did he die in a warehouse? no
A school? no
A house? yes
.....

[hoope]

Was he depressed about his work ?
Was he depressed about his family or friends ?
Was he an engineer ?
Did he use his father's gun ?

[alberich]

Was he depressed about his work ? yes
Was he depressed about his family or friends ? yes
Was he an engineer ? no
Did he use his father's gun ? no
.....

Again... as a tip for everybody in here. In this game you have to go from the general to the particular or the specific points.
For example, if u want to know about what he does for living, First you have to know about the nature of his job. I mean, you dont even know if he works or not and you are allready asking if he is an engineer.

So, for example its better first to ask:
in this planet?
human?
man?
age?
does he work?
phisical work? etc until u discover what kind of job then u r going to de particular things

in this case u r asking ...his fathers gun? u dont know if he had a father.
its better:
is it important whose gun it is? if the answer is yes then u proceed
his gun?
someone in the family?
enemy?
friend?
and so on...

hope this is helpful you are doing great!

[alberich]

Did he decide to kill himself because he thought his death was inevitable where he was?

no

[hoope]

.....

Again... as a tip for everybody in here. In this game you have to go from the general to the particular or the specific points.
For example, if u want to know about what he does for living, First you have to know about the nature of his job. I mean, you dont even know if he works or not and you are allready asking if he is an engineer.

So, for example its better first to ask:
in this planet?
human?
man?
age?
does he work?
phisical work? etc until u discover what kind of job then u r going to de particular things

in this case u r asking ...his fathers gun? u dont know if he had a father.
its better:
is it important whose gun it is? if the answer is yes then u proceed
his gun?
someone in the family?
enemy?
friend?
and so on...

hope this is helpful you are doing great!

I liked the phrase :smilewinkgrin: hehehe

ok .. i wil try again . So we should knw who was behind it ..then i can ask

Did he has friends ?
Was one of his friends behind it ?
Was one of his family members behind it ?

Was he facing some problems ?
Did he suicide coz he had no other way out ?

:sosp: Hope this is a good try :D

[alberich]

I liked the phrase :smilewinkgrin: hehehe

ok .. i wil try again . So we should knw who was behind it ..then i can ask

Did he has friends ? yes
Was one of his friends behind it ? yes...
Was one of his family members behind it ? no

Was he facing some problems ? no
Did he suicide coz he had no other way out ? no

:sosp: Hope this is a good try :D

careful! you are assuming thing!

[AdoreroDio]

did he work outside?
Did he work at home?
Did he work inside?
Does his physical qualities have anything to do with his death?
Is why he bought the gun originally important?
Did his friend know he/she was behind his death?

[alberich]

did he work outside?no
Did he work at home?yes and no
Did he work inside? yes

Does his physical qualities have anything to do with his death? yes!

Is why he bought the gun originally important? no
Did his friend know he/she was behind his death? wrong question lol you are assuming things ive never said

.....

[AdoreroDio]

can he walk?
was he abnormally tall?
was he abnormally short?
does he have odd facial features?
did his lively hood involve his physical features?
Did he have an extra body part (ie an extra finger?)?

[alberich]

can he walk? yes
was he abnormally tall?no
was he abnormally short? yes!
does he have odd facial features?no
did his lively hood involve his physical features? yes
Did he have an extra body part (ie an extra finger?)?hahaha no

.....

[Scheherazade]

So, he was a dwarf who killed himself?

Did he work in an actor? At a circus?

Was his health detoriating? Or was he made to think so?

[zoolane]

So, he was a dwarf who killed himself? No

Did he work in an actor? yes At a circus? yes

Was his health detoriating? yes Or was he made to think so? yes



Was he working went he died?
What did he dies of?
Was a murder, suicide, revenge or accident?

[mrv]

Isn't alberich supposed to answer the questions asked by Scheherazade?

Anyway my questions:

Was it important to see the sawdust itself?

Or was it important to see it where it was, that is, is the exact location of sawdust important?

The sawdust fell from somewhere, was it there and just fell down from there?

Or did someone work on wood and as a consequence it fell down?

Was the dead person in someone's house?

If yes, his own?
a friend's?
a relative's
a stranger's?
Was he invited there?

[alberich]

So, he was a dwarf who killed himself? yes

Did he work in an actor? yes At a circus? yes

Was his health detoriating? no
Or was he made to think so? no
.....

sorry!!! the page didnt mail me as always!!! I thought that anybody was asking =P! Im back!

[alberich]

.....

[alberich]

Hey!!!! why are u answering?????? and why are u asking?????
do u know the story?
you are giving rong answers!! and rong questions!
You have to do only yes or no questions.




Was he working went he died?
What did he dies of?
Was a murder, suicide, revenge or accident?

[alberich]

Isn't alberich supposed to answer the questions asked by Scheherazade? YES!!!!!!!! hahahahah

Anyway my questions:

Was it important to see the sawdust itself? yes

Or was it important to see it where it was YES
is the exact location of sawdust important? yes

The sawdust fell from somewhere, yes
was it there and just fell down from there? no

Or did someone work on wood and as a consequence it fell down? YES

Was the dead person in someone's house? yes

If yes, his own? yes

a friend's? no
a relative's no
a stranger's? no
Was he invited there? no

Good! keep going! =)

[mrv]

A few more questions.

About the sawdust:
Was it inside the house?
Outside the house?
If outside, was it nearby?
Or was it in some other place?

The dead guy did not see the sawdust because…
It was too little to be easily noticed?
It was in a place he would not have easily notice?
For some reason, he did not go to the place where it was lying?

The dead guy was in his house when he died but…
Was he there all the time that day?
Did he come home from somewhere?

Somebody worked on the wood that made sawdust…so
Was that wood part of the structure of the house?
Or part of some other large structure?

Was that ‘somebody’…
A man?
A woman?
A child?
An acquaintance of the dead guy?
A friend?
A relative?
A stranger?

Did he or she…
Intend some harm when he/she worked on that wood?
Or was doing routine work?
Did it with a specific purpose but not with any intention of harming anything or anyone?

There are some contradictions in the answers to questions others have asked in earlier posts so I’ll ask again:
Did he commit suicide because he saw no way out of whatever situation he was in?
Did he feel his death was inevitable?
Is someone other than himself responsible for his death?
Was the involvement (if there is any) of the other person deliberate or accidental?
According to you the person is abnormally short but not a dwarf???

I think these many should be enough for now. :p

[alberich]

A few more questions.

About the sawdust:
Was it inside the house? yes
Outside the house? no

The dead guy did not see the sawdust because…
It was too little to be easily noticed? no
It was in a place he would not have easily notice? no
For some reason, he did not go to the place where it was lying? no

The dead guy was in his house when he died but…
Was he there all the time that day? no
Did he come home from somewhere? yes

Somebody worked on the wood that made sawdust…so
Was that wood part of the structure of the house? no
Or part of some other large structure? rong quest. if u ask like this i´ll say no. u r asking 2 things in one.

Was that ‘somebody’…
A man? yes
A woman? yes
A child? yes
An acquaintance of the dead guy? no
A friend? yes
A relative? no
A stranger? no

Did he or she…
Intend some harm when he/she worked on that wood? no
Or was doing routine work? no
Did it with a specific purpose but not with any intention of harming anything or anyone? yes

There are some contradictions in the answers to questions others have asked in earlier posts so I’ll ask again:
Did he commit suicide because he saw no way out of whatever situation he was in? ok this one is no
Did he feel his death was inevitable? and this one is yes
Is someone other than himself responsible for his death? yes
Was the involvement of the other person accidental? yes

According to you the person is abnormally short but not a dwarf??? sorry in this one hahaha cause I speak spanish so my english is not as good as yours =P, for me dwarf was a mithological character... like lord of the rings lol But now that u ask again, I googled it and realized that a dwarf is the name for an abnormally short real man lol so, the answer is yes he was a dwarf



I love to aswer a lot of questions so feel free! =)

[mrv]

First of all, I'll need to have some doubts cleared.

You're saying that the 'somebody' who worked on the wood that made the sawdust is a man, a woman and a child. Now either we are talking about three or more people being involved or there has been a miscommunication again.

I asked you if the wood in question was part of some large structure other than the house. You say it is two things I'm asking in this one question. What exactly are those two things according to you?

Then...
I had guessed what you thought a dwarf was. I only wanted you to realize that Scher had not been wrong in using the word 'dwarf' for an abnormally short person. :)
And your English is just fine but we can always ask for a clarification if there is any doubt or if anything seems unclear. Every miscommunication creates extra holes in this unbelievably perforated story of yours. It will mean a whole lot of extra effort to plug those unnecessary holes. That's why I want you to make things clear for yourself and for us. Either you give a short summary of all the facts about the story which have been ascertained up to this point or I can do that and you can confirm if I'm right.

Now back to the game...new questions...

There was sawdust, which wasn't too little to be noticed, lying somewhere on the floor in the house. The man does not notice it even though he goes to the place where it was lying. Am I correct?
His not having seen the sawdust has consequences which eventually lead to his suicide, right?
One day he comes home from somewhere and kills himself with his own gun.
What is the time difference between his 'not seeing the sawdust' and his 'committing suicide'...
It happens the same day?
the next day?
a few days?
week or so?
weeks?
months?
years?

I need this cleared then I'll ask more questions.

[alberich]

You're saying that the 'somebody' who worked on the wood that made the sawdust is a man, a woman and a child. Now either we are talking about three or more people being involved. Yes!

I asked you if the wood in question was part of some large structure other than the house. You say it is two things I'm asking in this one question. What exactly are those two things according to you? Im trying to help u guys about the way u ask. "from universal to particular facts" if u say "some other large structure" I´ll say no... other wood structure yes but large... no


Then...
I had guessed what you thought a dwarf was. I only wanted you to realize that Scher had not been wrong in using the word 'dwarf' for an abnormally short person. :)

Either you give a short summary of all the facts about the story which have been ascertained up to this point or I can do that and you can confirm if I'm right. I have to go out so the summary will be written tomorrow =)

Now back to the game...new questions...

There was sawdust, which wasn't too little to be noticed, lying somewhere on the floor in the house. The man does not notice it even though he goes to the place where it was lying. Am I correct? yes

His not having seen the sawdust has consequences which eventually lead to his suicide, right? yes
One day he comes home from somewhere and kills himself with his own gun.
What is the time difference between his 'not seeing the sawdust' and his 'committing suicide'...
It happens the same day? yes
.

I put again email notification, so i'll be answering ASAP

[alberich]

-He was a dwarf (midget) that worked on a circus act. (so, why did I answer like this? : “Did he work at home? YES and NO”)

-His lively hood involves his physical features.

-Three or more people (man, woman, child, friend, but no relative ones) were working on the death dwarf house. They where working on wood. This wood was the one that makes the sawdust fell to the floor. They did it with a specific purpose but not with any intention of harming anyone.

-When the dwarf arrived, no one was at home. For some reason he didn´t see the sawdust and for some reason he committed suicide the same day with his own gun.

-He killed himself because he was depressed over something… about his work. So he felt his death was inevitable. His not having seen the sawdust had consequences that eventually led to his suicide. His physical qualities have to do with his death.

-It is important where the sawdust came from, and important to see where it was.

-You asked:
“Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life? NO!” ***** you may ask : WHYYYY??? **** This means that his house is not an ordinary building that we would visit in every day life.

-Nobody saw him die and nobody gained anything with his death.


You are almost there!!!

[tainaprincess]

Is his house a sort of small theater building?
Was the wood that was worked on some sort of beam/column?
Did his circus act involve acrobatics?
Did the people working with the wood involved in his act (did they work with him)?
What time of the day did he commit suicide:
-morning?
-noon(ish)?
-afternoon?
-evening?
night?
Was the sawdust hidden?
If so, was it under:
-a carpet/rug?
-a net of some sort?
-furniture?
Was his depression (that caused him to commit suicide) dealing with:
-too much work?
-a lack of work?
-humiliation because of the the actual work he does?

(I'm out of questions for now, but I will come back and ask questions later. alberich, if you need help translating some of these questions, let me know. I'll be glad to help :))

[zoolane]

Hey!!!! why are u answering?????? and why are u asking?????
do u know the story?
you are giving rong answers!! and rong questions!
You have to do only yes or no questions.

I misunderstood the thread and I said I was sorry on your profile

[alberich]

Is his house a sort of small theater building? No
Was the wood that was worked on some sort of beam/column? No
Did his circus act involve acrobatics? No
Did the people working with the wood involved in his act (did they work with him)? Yes!!
What time of the day did he commit suicide?
night? Yes
Was the sawdust hidden? No

Was his depression (that caused him to commit suicide) dealing with:
-too much work? No
-a lack of work? No
-humiliation because of the the actual work he does? No

alberich, if you need help translating some of these questions, let me know. I'll be glad to help :))

Tyvm!!! I undersand english very good Sometimes I deal with some words, if i need help i'll let u know =))

[alberich]

I misunderstood the thread and I said I was sorry on your profile

Lol don't worry!!! Now u know how! :)

[mrv]

I asked you if the wood in question was part of some large structure other than the house. You say it is two things I'm asking in this one question. What exactly are those two things according to you? Im trying to help u guys about the way u ask. "from universal to particular facts" if u say "some other large structure" I´ll say no... other wood structure yes but large... no
I am going from universal to particular. When I asked you this I did not as yet know if the sawdust was inside or outside. I had asked if it was a part of the structure of the house considering the possibility that the sawdust was inside. In case your answer had been that the sawdust was outside, I had to cover the possibility of it being a part of some large structure other than the house. The simple answer you needed to give was 'no'. I would then ask you if it is a smaller structure, wooden or not, a piece of furniture and like questions when I start to move to the particular facts. You are assuming you know how or what I am thinking. You don't know, trust me. ;)


-He was a dwarf (midget) that worked on a circus act. (so, why did I answer like this? : “Did he work at home? YES and NO”)
I thought you were just confused. :goof: Even I ought to stop assuming I can read minds. :p

Anyway, questions:
Is his home not a regular house, like the ones we live in?
Is his house abnormally small too?
Does he live at a place that's part of the compound where the circus acts are prepared?



-His lively hood involves his physical features.
Does he do something that would specifically require a very small person?
Or does this mean that whatever he does needs to be done by someone who looks like he does?


-Three or more people (man, woman, child, friend, but no relative ones) were working on the death dwarf house. They where working on wood. This wood was the one that makes the sawdust fell to the floor. They did it with a specific purpose but not with any intention of harming anyone.

questions:
Is it important how many people were working the wood?
Were these people cutting up something made of wood?
Re-shaping it?
Trying to make something?
Whatever this wood structure, can it be called furniture?
Can it be described as a box of some kind?
Can it be described as a frame of some kind?
Can it be described as a barrel of some kind?


-When the dwarf arrived, no one was at home. For some reason he didn´t see the sawdust and for some reason he committed suicide the same day with his own gun.
Did someone live with him in that house?
Did the people who worked the wood live with him in that house?
Were those people who worked the wood dwarfs too?


-He killed himself because he was depressed over something… about his work. So he felt his death was inevitable. His not having seen the sawdust had consequences that eventually led to his suicide. His physical qualities have to do with his death.

Did he fear he was going to die in some act he was going to perform?
Did he fear someone was going to kill him?


-It is important where the sawdust came from, and important to see where it was.
Once I can have an idea of what kind of house it is I would be able to frame pertinent questions.


-You asked:
“Did it happen at an ordinary building (like a house or school) where we would visit in everyday life? NO!” ***** you may ask : WHYYYY??? **** This means that his house is not an ordinary building that we would visit in every day life.
Here again I had assumed you were confused.:p
I wish I could ask WHY? But I'm only allowed yes/no questions.:( (I know you meant asking ourselves and not you.)
I already asked some questions about the house and after I have my answers I'll ask more.


-Nobody saw him die and nobody gained anything with his death.
Nobody saw him die...
Was it because it was night and it was usual for him to be alone at home at night?
Did the people go away for some reason?
Is it possible that someone might have heard him shoot, ie, did anyone live nearby?
Or did he live in a secluded place?

[alberich]

I am going from universal to particular. When I asked you this I did not as yet know if the sawdust was inside or outside. I had asked if it was a part of the structure of the house considering the possibility that the sawdust was inside.

Ok I understand... I said that cause we already knew that the sawdust was lying in the house floor, but lets forget this episode lol =) It wasn´t a large structure like a house

Is his home not a regular house, like the ones we live in? yes
Is his house abnormally small too? no
Does he live at a place that's part of the compound where the circus acts are prepared? no

Does he do something that would specifically require a very small person? yes
Or does this mean that whatever he does needs to be done by someone who looks like he does? yes

Is it important how many people were working the wood? no
Were these people cutting up something made of wood? yes
Re-shaping it? yes
Trying to make something? no
Whatever this wood structure, can it be called furniture? yes
Can it be described as a box of some kind? no
Can it be described as a frame of some kind? no
Can it be described as a barrel of some kind? no

Did someone live with him in that house? no
Did the people who worked the wood live with him in that house? no
Were those people who worked the wood dwarfs too? no

Did he fear he was going to die in some act he was going to perform? no
Did he fear someone was going to kill him? no

Nobody saw him die...
Was it because it was night and it was usual for him to be alone at home at night? yes
Did the people go away for some reason? away from where? from his house? yes
Is it possible that someone might have heard him shoot, yes
did anyone live nearby? yes
Or did he live in a secluded place? no

almost there!!

[tainaprincess]

Was this piece of wood part of his act?
Did anyone actually hear the shot (the previous question said is it possible someone might have heard)?
If so, was it one or more of the people who worked the wood?
Did the people live nearby?
Did the people leave his house because it was getting late?
Did the people know he lived in his house?
Did he live in a public building (one in which he might not be allowed to be in after hours)?

[alberich]

Was this piece of wood part of his act? no
Did anyone actually hear the shot (the previous question said is it possible someone might have heard)? yes but it is not relevant
If so, was it one or more of the people who worked the wood? yes
Did the people live nearby? yes
Did the people leave his house because it was getting late? no
Did the people know he lived in his house? yes
Did he live in a public building (one in which he might not be allowed to be in after hours)? no

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[tainaprincess]

Was there a shadow over the sawdust?
Did he feel betrayed by someone at work?

(I'm out of questions, for now.)

[alberich]

Was there a shadow over the sawdust? not relevant
Did he feel betrayed by someone at work? no

(I'm out of questions, for now.)
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[mrv]

Is his home not a regular house, like the ones we live in? yes
If not a regular house then what makes it different…
It’s size?
It’s shape?
It’s usual function?( which means that it is something that is usually used for some purpose other than living in as a house?)
Does he live in a tent?
Or some other temporary form of shelter?


Does he do something that would specifically require a very small person? yes
Or does this mean that whatever he does needs to be done by someone who looks like he does? Yes
Are these facts directly related to the cause of his suicide? And if that’s two-in-one then is the first one related? Is the second one related?


Were these people cutting up something made of wood? yes
Re-shaping it? yes
Whatever this wood structure, can it be called furniture? yes
Was it a bed of some kind?
A table of some kind?
A chair or seat of some kind?


Nobody saw him die...
Was it because it was night and it was usual for him to be alone at home at night? Yes
Is this an important fact in this story?


Did the people go away for some reason? away from where? from his house? Yes
Is the reason why they went away important?


Did the people live nearby? yes
You mean the ones that worked on the wood lived nearby?
Is it important that they did live nearby?


almost there!!
I don’t feel like it’s 'almost there'. I still feel lost.:( I have no idea where this is going.:out:

I have some other questions though. I posted them on your page but you seem to respond to things asked only in this thread so I’ll ask again… Do you know how to reply to a visitor message? And a private message? Or should I desist from asking because it’s none of my business?

[alberich]

If not a regular house then what makes it different…
It’s size? yes
It’s shape? yes
It’s usual function? (which means that it is something that is usually used for some purpose other than living in as a house?) no
Does he live in a tent? no
Or some other temporary form of shelter? no... it wasn´t temporary for him, he really lived there all the time... Try thinking how the circus life is.

**Does he do something that would specifically require a very small person? yes
**Or does this mean that whatever he does needs to be done by someone who looks like he does? Yes
Are these facts (**) directly related to the cause of his suicide? yes

About the wood:
Was it a bed of some kind? yes
A table of some kind? yes
A chair or seat of some kind? yes, yes

Nobody saw him die...
Is this an important fact in this story? no

Is the reason why they went away important? no

You mean the ones that worked on the wood lived nearby? yes
Is it important that they did live nearby? yes (remember that somebody has already discovered that they were his co-workers, they worked with him at the circus! -"Did the people working with the wood were involved in his act (did they work with him)? yes they did work with him"

I don’t feel like it’s 'almost there'. I still feel lost.:( I have no idea where this is going.:out:
believe me! There is just one detail missing... the most important one! about him... this missing hole is going to open your mind to solve the story.

I have some other questions though. I posted them on your page but you seem to respond to things asked only in this thread so I’ll ask again… Do you know how to reply to a visitor message? And a private message?
Oh!! yes I do. sorry!!
It´s just that I have not checked them out. I never check that section... Let me see it right now lol

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[mrv]

If not a regular house then what makes it different…
It’s size? yes
It’s shape? yes
Or some other temporary form of shelter? no... it wasn´t temporary for him, he really lived there all the time... Try thinking how the circus life is.
I don’t know much about a circus life. But anyway…
It’s not temporary for him but is it a temporary form of shelter(objectively speaking)?
Does he live in a caravan?
Is his house small?
Big?
Very Big?

What shape can it be…:out:
Cube?
Cuboid?
Sphere?
Cylinder?
Cone?
Some irregular shape?

Is it covered on all sides?
Does it have walls on all sides?
Does it have a proper roof?
Does it have doors?
Does it at least have one proper door?
Does it have windows (or a window)?




**Does he do something that would specifically require a very small person? yes
**Or does this mean that whatever he does needs to be done by someone who looks like he does? Yes
Are these facts (**) directly related to the cause of his suicide? Yes

Does his act involve getting into or out of or through small areas of some kind?
He’s not a clown, right?
Is his act a dangerous one?
Is it a funny one?



About the wood:
Was it a bed of some kind? yes
A table of some kind? yes
A chair or seat of some kind? yes, yes
Is it just one all purpose kind of piece of furniture?
Or did they work on various pieces of furniture?
Is what they did to the furniture of a lot of importance to the dead guy?
Also, what they did to the furniture...
Was it a kind of favor to the dead guy?
Was done for personal or emotional reasons?
Or was done for something connected with their work?


You mean the ones that worked on the wood lived nearby? yes
Is it important that they did live nearby? yes (remember that somebody has already discovered that they were his co-workers, they worked with him at the circus! -"Did the people working with the wood were involved in his act (did they work with him)? yes they did work with him"
I can't think of any questions to ask about this.



believe me! There is just one detail missing... the most important one! about him... this missing hole is going to open your mind to solve the story.
And I don’t have a clue what that one detail could be. Why is nobody else trying? I’m not too good at this.:(



Oh!! yes I do. sorry!!
It´s just that I have not checked them out. I never check that section... Let me see it right now lol
It’s okay. Zoolane had apologized to you in the thread and had said that she’d already apologized on your page. I thought you didn't reply to her because you didn't know how to.

Okay let me check it again...
There’s this dwarf who works in a circus. When he’s not home people who work with him come into his house, work on the furniture in his house, cutting and resizing it. They go away before he’s back home. He comes back home but does not see the sawdust those people made in working the wood. So, he does not realize what they had done with his furniture. Then he kills himself.
Am I correct?
I can’t think of whatever we have so far to lead to something so desperate as a suicide!

How come he didn’t notice any of it- neither the sawdust nor his furniture…
Is he blind?
Is he suffering from any diseases?
He does some circus act, but is it important what he exactly does in the act?
You’re saying there’s something important about him that we’re missing…
Is it about his body?
Is it about his mental state?
Is it about his work?
Is it about his equation with these people who worked with him?

I'm out of questions for now. I hope some of these answers will give me a clue.

[alberich]

[QUOTE=mrv;985794]I don’t know much about a circus life. But anyway…
It’s not temporary for him but is it a temporary form of shelter(objectively speaking)?
Does he live in a caravan? yes
Is his house small? average size

What shape can it be…:out:
well, now that u know that it was a caravan house, it doesn´t matter the shape


Does his act involve getting into or out of or through small areas of some kind? it is not important
He’s not a clown, right? yes!!! it was a clown!
Is his act a dangerous one? no
Is it a funny one? yes



Is it just one all purpose kind of piece of furniture?
Or did they work on various pieces of furniture? yes We´ve already discovered it was a table, a chair or seat, a bed...
Is what they did to the furniture of a lot of importance to the dead guy? yes
Also, what they did to the furniture...
Was it a kind of favor to the dead guy? yyyeeeeesssss
Was done for personal or emotional reasons? yes
Or was done for something connected with their work? no

Is it important that they did live nearby? yes (this is just important to realize his environment in the story... so don´t try to investigate more in this)


And I don’t have a clue what that one detail could be. Why is nobody else trying? I’m not too good at this.:(
hahahahaha I don´t know where is everyone!!! I gess u r alone at this lol
And u r doing just great!

It’s okay. Zoolane had apologized to you in the thread and had said that she’d already apologized on your page. I thought you didn't reply to her because you didn't know how to. =P No... I have already answered Zoo

Okay let me check it again...
There’s this dwarf who works in a circus. When he’s not home people who work with him come into his house, work on the furniture in his house, cutting and resizing it. They go away before he’s back home. He comes back home but does not see the sawdust those people made in working the wood. So, he does not realize what they had done with his furniture. Then he kills himself.
Am I correct? yees
I can’t think of whatever we have so far to lead to something so desperate as a suicide!

How come he didn’t notice any of it- neither the sawdust nor his furniture…
Is he blind? YES YES YES YES
Is he suffering from any diseases? no
He does some circus act, but is it important what he exactly does in the act? no
You’re saying there’s something important about him that we’re missing… Yes it was about his eyes! hahaha that he was blind! and with this you could elaborate the whole story! just think as an old blind midget clown!

try to do it and then I´ll give u my version! =)
QUOTE]

good!

[mrv]

Did these people make the furniture smaller?
Did he think all his furniture was missing?
I still don't find reason enough for a suicide.

[alberich]

Did these people make the furniture smaller?yes!!!
Did he think all his furniture was missing? no
I still don't find reason enough for a suicide. you are close!!!

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[mrv]

From whatever answers I’ve got, I think it isn’t about why he killed himself. It’s probably more about what could have saved him. An old blind circus clown who is depressed about his work and lives alone in a caravan, where probably even the furniture is too large for him might get depressed enough to commit suicide…maybe. So, it’s probably more about the fact that if he hadn’t been blind, he’d have seen the sawdust and also the furniture. That would make him realize that the people he worked with cared about him. So he wouldn’t have committed suicide.
If this is wrong, please do give the correct version.

[mrv]

From whatever answers I’ve got, I think it isn’t about why he killed himself. It’s probably more about what could have saved him. An old blind circus clown who is depressed about his work and lives alone in a caravan, where probably even the furniture is too large for him might get depressed enough to commit suicide…maybe. So, it’s probably more about the fact that if he hadn’t been blind, he’d have seen the sawdust and also the furniture. That would make him realize that the people he worked with cared about him. So he wouldn’t have committed suicide.
If this is wrong, please do give the correct version.

[alberich]

From whatever answers I’ve got, I think it isn’t about why he killed himself. It’s probably more about what could have saved him. An old blind circus clown who is depressed about his work and lives alone in a caravan, where probably even the furniture is too large for him might get depressed enough to commit suicide…maybe. So, it’s probably more about the fact that if he hadn’t been blind, he’d have seen the sawdust and also the furniture. That would make him realize that the people he worked with cared about him. So he wouldn’t have committed suicide.
If this is wrong, please do give the correct version.

It has everything to do with why he killed himself.

Be carefull! He wasn´t depressed with his job... he loved it!
**"Did he kill himself because he was depressed over something? yes"
**"Was he depressed about his work ? yes"
**"Was he depressed about his family or friends ? yes" (I never said he had family)

(but this (**) didn´t mean he was depressed all the time... he got depressed for some reason involving his job, friends and family and then that led him to kill himself)

so, in order to help a little:
(he has always been blind!) One day, after the circus, which he loves , he goes home, a caravan that has been his home for about 40 years, he notices something different, he gets depressed and kills himself. What happends in his "midget blind feelings" that gets him depressed and to commit suicide?

I tell u this to see if u can discover the reason. But if u like, I´ll tell u the whole story.

[mrv]

I knew it couldn’t be correct. I just put forward this stupid theory so you’d not say I didn’t try at all.

What do I make of it? Those people worked his furniture to make it smaller. What would that change in his caravan? There could be the smell of cut wood, there will be. There would be a lot more space which he will obviously notice. He’d have to check what was wrong. If he feels around, he’s bound to notice that his furniture is smaller. I don’t really think he wouldn’t know that his furniture was altered. So, he must have known. Why would he kill himself because his furniture got smaller? Why would those people alter his furniture anyway, he did fine for forty years, didn’t he? Did he feel offended because of it? Did he think it was a joke of some kind, to mock a ‘midget blind’ clown? He couldn’t be offended to suicidal depression just because of that! There was no family, his friends, or co-workers lived nearby, he would easily figure that whatever happened to his furniture was most probably the work of these people. After all these questions where am I? Nowhere!

I so wanted to be able to guess what actually happened but you know what, before I get too depressed about this, just tell me what the whole story is.

[MystyrMystyry]

Sawdust in the circus ring?

Lions?

Trapezes..? And... nets?

Human cannonballs?

Accidental suicide?

[Ciaobella]

The short blind clown has been in the circus business for 40 years....and loves it! His stature gets him a lot of attention, and he tends to use his physical appearance in many jokes. He loves the sound of the laughter and bringing joy to others.

His co-workers love his attitude and decide to do something nice to surprise him. For years, he has struggled with the too-big furniture in his home, so they sneak in one night while he performs and shorten the legs of his bed, table, chairs, benches, stools, etc. so that they will be easier to use. Maybe they get rid of the cut wood smell with potpourri or perhaps someone passed gas. In any case, they work together to get the job done. Proud of their good deed, they leave quietly and imagine his overjoyed reaction while they ready for their own performances.

The scene is set.

The clown returns home after his performance. Perhaps he sits down for a snack or just decides to turn in for the night. But something is wrong. He didn't have to climb or struggle to use his furniture. Is he in the wrong house? No, this is his place. Is the chair simply broken? No, because the table, the bed, everything is... Oh, no. His mind races, and he can come to only one gut-wrenching conclusion- he is growing. What will he do as an average-sized man? His whole life has revolved around the circus. But he has no comedy material as an average-sized man. His career is over, and he has no other alternatives. Everything that he has poured his life into crumbles before his blind eyes. It's too much. He can't take it. He falls into a state of hopelessness, and with the sawdust lying out of sight somewhere on the floor, he takes his own life.

I really hope I'm right. Otherwise, my histrionic imagination has been wasted.

[alberich]

Wow!!! exactly!! did u already know the story??? I can´t use better words than yours.

[mrv]

Wow!!! exactly!! did u already know the story??? I can´t use better words than yours.

You mean Cioabella is right? The story doesn't make sense. Even if the furniture was smaller, the caravan didn't become smaller, in fact there will be more space. How could he possibly think he was growing? If he had grown, wouldn't the caravan feel smaller too? What kind of an explanation is this?

[alberich]

The furniture is exactly the same size the only change in it is the high, so it doesn´t make more space inside, It just make him feel higher.

"How could he possibly think he was growing? If he had grown, wouldn't the caravan feel smaller too?" Noooo!!! if u kneel down right now you are not going to feel a bigger room. The midget perception is the same of a normal person. If you think about the perception between a 6 years old and an adult, well, there is a change in the space. Remember he was blind for his entire life. Blinded people don´t think like we do or feel like we do. In that moment he felt what his mind told him to felt.

But well it is just a story =)... I didn´t create it. Try to understand it.

[mrv]

Never mind.

[liphe2011]

where is the story... helllllppp

[mrv]

where is the story... helllllppp

The person who solved the last one never posted a new one so there is none. You can post a new one if you want to.