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MANICHAEAN
09-25-2010, 09:29 AM
Ok you history buffs.

1. Was Henry VIII of Welsh descent?

2. What was the relationship between his ancestor, Owen Tudor & Queen Catherine of France, wife of Henry V?

3. Did Henry VIII have any grandchildren?

4. What was the condition agreed between Henry VIII & his then 18 year old sister for her to consent to marry the elderly Louis XII?

5.What was the objection to the prospect of a female Tudor sovereign like Mary?

6. Did Henry VIII have a son?

7. What was Henry VIII's reason to marry Anne Boleyn. Romance?

wessexgirl
09-26-2010, 06:56 AM
Ok you history buffs.

1. Was Henry VIII of Welsh descent?

2. What was the relationship between his ancestor, Owen Tudor & Queen Catherine of France, wife of Henry V?

3. Did Henry VIII have any grandchildren?

4. What was the condition agreed between Henry VIII & his then 18 year old sister for her to consent to marry the elderly Louis XII?

5.What was the objection to the prospect of a female Tudor sovereign like Mary?

6. Did Henry VIII have a son?

7. What was Henry VIII's reason to marry Anne Boleyn. Romance?

Ooh, is there a prize :D?

1. Yes. He was a Tudor, descended from Owen Tudor, who I think was Welsh.
2. Owen Tudor married Queen Catherine after Henry V's death, and thereby founded the Tudor dynasty.
3. No, not legitimately. He may have had illegitimate children (I don't know), which could have made him a grandad though.
4. Pass
5. The objection to Mary was her faith. She was a Catholic.
6. Yes, Edward V1.
7. :D Lust. Plus he wanted a male heir which he hadn't got with Katherine. He also tried to say the marriage was suspect, (after years of it), by saying that as she was his brother Arthur's widow, he shouldn't have married her. Funny it didn't bother him earlier until Anne was on the scene. :)

TheFifthElement
09-26-2010, 07:00 AM
I think 4. was that she could pick her own husband after Louis the old had died.

3. yes, but not legitimate.

MANICHAEAN
09-26-2010, 08:43 AM
Sorry Wessexgirl No Prize! Unless Admin has got some system I'm not aware of.
All correct, except where you passed on 4 which 5th Element got.
Congratulations.

Let me put a bit of meat on the bones:

1 & 2: Henry VII's great grandfather of Welsh blood was steward or butler to the Bishop of Bangor. His son, Owen Tudor, came as a young man to seek his fortune at the Court of Henry V, and obtained a clerkship of the wardrobe to Henry's Queen, Catherine of France. So skilfully did he use or abuse this position of trust, that he won the heart of his mistress; and within a few years of Henry's death his widowed Queen and her clerk of the wardrobe were secretly, and possibly without legal sanction, living together as man and wife. The discovery of their relations resulted in Catherine's retirement to Bermondsey Abbey, and Owen's to Newgate prison. Two sons Edmund and Jasper, were born of this match.

3. Henry VIII had six wives, but only three children who survived infancy; of these, Edward VI withered away at the age of fifteen, and Mary died childless at forty-two. By his two mistresses he seems to have had only one son, who died at the age of eleven, and as far as we know, he had not a single grandchild, legitimate or otherwise.

4. The widow of Louis XII (Henry's sister) was eighteen at the time of her marriage to the old & sickly French king. It shocked public opinion at the time and it was hinted that the gaieties in which his youthful bride involved him, hastened the French King's end. As noted correctly by The 5th Element, she only agreed to this marriage on condition that, if she survived him, she should be allowed to choose her second husband herself. Sounds quite a woman & a fair deal!

5. If Mary Tudor married, her husband must be either a subject or a foreign prince. To marry a subject would at once create discords like those from which the Wars of the Roses had sprung; to marry a foreign prince was to threaten Englishmen, then more jealous than ever of foreign influence, with the fear of alien domination.

6. Henry VIII had one illegitimate son. The boy was born in 1519 and his mother was Elizabeth Blount, sister of Lord Mountjoy. The existence of this royal bastard was so effectually concealed that no referenceto him occurs until 1525, when it was thought expedient to give him a position of public importance. In this year the child was created Duke of Richmond and Somerset. Shortly afterwards he was made Lord High Admiral of England, Lord Warden of the Marches, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland.

7. This one always gets argued about but his sole object in seeking the divorce from Catherine and separation from Rome was not just the gratification of his passion for Anne Boleyn. She was pregnant before Henry married her & the desire was that the child should be percieved as legitimate.

M