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cagedbird
09-11-2010, 11:27 AM
So Much Hate

Whites against Blacks
Daughters against mothers
Sons against fathers
Brothers against sisters.

Why so much hate?

Where is the love for one another
Where the morals and the guidance?
Where is the unity and peace?
Where is the security and brotherhood?

Where is this nation headed?

When will be united as one family
When will prejudice and racism be erased?
When will all people be truly free?
When will Martin L. King Jr.’s dream come true?

It starts with the golden rule,

“Loving others as you love yourself.”

© 9-11-2001 Cagedbird

Skia
09-11-2010, 11:56 AM
Lovely.

And so many questions one wishes to be answered.

- Why judge a man by the colour of his skin, and not by the colour of his eye?

Haunted
09-11-2010, 03:15 PM
to me this is precisely the kind of poems that foster more hate.

Were you in New York when the towers went down? If you were you would know how people of all races and religions came together. People called up long lost friends, and people they didn't get along with, their ex's...just to see if they are ok.

These cliches just don't apply to 9/11. I feel offended by the rhetoric. If you want to talk about hate, don't drag 9/11 into it.

BienvenuJDC
09-11-2010, 03:22 PM
I think that you are right, Haunted. None of what is mentioned seems to go with 9/11. While it is mentioned that "whites" are against blacks, it is NOT mentioned that "Muslim extremists" are against anyone (which is what 9/11 was all about).

hillwalker
09-11-2010, 03:45 PM
This is a list of cliches that does little justice to the memory of those lost in the disaster - which I assume is what you were trying to commemorate (based on the cringeworthy title).

This is misguided. And even if the poem had included a line about 'Muslim extremists', in this context it would have been a token gesture.

jurisprudent
09-11-2010, 03:48 PM
No offence but I think this bears too many cliches.

dafydd manton
09-11-2010, 03:51 PM
I'm sorry, I agree 100% with Hillwalker and Haunted (who, remember, is a New Yorker!)

Skia
09-11-2010, 04:01 PM
Hm.. I thought there were good points,
But i was about 9/10 when it happened...
I still don't know the facts...
I'm only young I suppose.

hillwalker
09-11-2010, 04:14 PM
Hm.. I thought there were good points

The idea behind it is in all probability well-intentioned..... to rid the world of bigotry.

But the timing and the way it was done is about as sincere as total strangers wishing someone they don't know a happy birthday on Facebook - they merely do it to get themselves noticed as a 'caring individual'.

Skia
09-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Ooohh.
I see, Thanks Hill... for putting it in a perspective i can relate to. :)

And don't mention facebook! I got dumped on there 3 weeks ago. :P

hillwalker
09-11-2010, 04:24 PM
You must tell us why..... one day, in a poem perhaps. Keep smiling, you've got us now instead. Aren't you the lucky one?

Skia
09-11-2010, 04:26 PM
Maybe tomorrow ?
Thats a great idea,
I will work on that tonight :)

And I am lucky, it's nice theres people out there who have the same understanding and passion as I do :)

Thank you hill. I mean it. :)

dafydd manton
09-11-2010, 04:28 PM
(He's not a bad old stick, when you get to know him!)

Skia
09-11-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm sure ! ;)

Delta40
09-11-2010, 05:19 PM
I have never been into anniversaries much

Maximilianus
09-12-2010, 02:04 AM
I'm almost certain the OP didn't mean wrong, though I understand the diverted feelings and opinions. Though being different in form and impact (to a certain point), there were a couple of terrorist attacks in my country a few years back, so I am familiar with the feelings involved.

tailor STATELY
09-12-2010, 02:47 AM
Welcome to litnet cagedbird.

Enjoyed your poem. You definitely hit a nerve (good on you). [auto-correct engaged on my typo... cool !] When no one has answers it's sometimes deemed best to attack the messenger.

My critique would be for you to embellish a bit more, ie: the minimalism you employed screams for better use of your language skills.

Look forward to more of your poems.

Sincerely,
tailor STATELY

hillwalker
09-12-2010, 07:09 AM
Since I seem to have thrown the first stone perhaps I should be the one to defend cagedbird (who wrote this) as well as those who felt it was a tasteless thing to do –

1) The thoughts behind it are well-intentioned (I won’t call it a poem because it isn’t – it’s like something from the inside of a Hallmark card). But at least the writer has tried to show his/her humanity here and probably was expecting a group ‘hug’.

2) I make no excuses for repeating that every line is a cliche – something we have all heard and read a million times before, so I don’t really understand why cagedbird in particular felt the need to tell us this (unless they felt it would gain a lot of support on the anniversary of 9/11). We can't engage with the writer’s emotions because we don’t get to see them – it is just a bland recycled list of what most of us think anyway so there is nothing particularly original.

However, I’m sure there are literally thousands of comments in a similar vein that have been posted on every social networking site between here and Baghdad over the last 24 hours that got a wonderful response.
There must be thousands of readers who have said ‘Thank you/God bless/What a wonderful thought’. But most of these responses are about as sincere as a poke in the eye – it’s a case of everyone jumping on the bandwagon to show the world how patriotic they are or how deeply they share America’s loss. And of course ultimately the entire exercise is to draw attention to themselves, not the events.

3) Hatred in all its manifestations is a terrible thing – and if only the solution were as simple as first loving oneself then the world would indeed be a better place (if a bit like Disneyworld). But such a simplistic view of life does not lend itself to a piece like this – especially one that attempts to link such philosophies with 9/11 as shown in its title - and so the reaction has obviously been one of general condemnation.

4) WMost of us have committed the sin of posting something on here at one time or another then wishing we had never pressed the ‘submit new thread’ button – I can certainly think of 2 poems I wish I had kept hold of and never allowed to see the light of LitNet day. It’s just unfortunate cagedbird has done this after only 3 posts.

So, please, cagedbird, I hope you will post something else here again asap – a poem or just even a hello. We may never forgive you, but most of us are so ancient that we’re likely to forget it all by this time next week.

H :-)

PrinceMyshkin
09-12-2010, 08:39 AM
I endorse the statements by Haunted and a few others and especially the several by Hillwalker, most notably the lengthy one just preceding mine in which, along with the the points he makes is the tone of patient civility.The latter is one of the reasons I check into Lit-Online daily & with eagerness. Bravo.

Jerrybaldy
09-12-2010, 07:25 PM
Have no regrets cagedbird. As has been mentioned it certainly got a big response. I am with a short comment by Delta. I am not a fan of anniversaries. I do not know the date of death of anybody close to me, a once a year mourning isnt for me.
keep posting
Jerry.

Delta40
09-12-2010, 08:17 PM
I am still not a fan of anniversaries and it isn't personal. I look forward to more posts by you cagebird.