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Hawkman
07-22-2010, 04:34 AM
Being meek ain’t what it’s cracked up to be,
not as far as I can see.
In fact,
being meek will gain you nothing,
except perhaps a casual cuffing
round the back of the head.
It’s like I said,
the meek ain’t bullet proof,
and when they’re hit they’ll lose a tooth
just like you or me.
Being meek just gets you killed
by soldiers, people skilled
in dealing with the weak.
Inheriting the earth? Well, yes, it’s true,
there’s six feet of it reserved for you
if you insist on being meek.
Jesus really should have said
that being meek can make you dead
but that just wasn’t what he sold
to all the weaklings, young and old.
That’s the thing about religion;
jam tomorrow's always the position.

tailor STATELY
07-22-2010, 05:33 AM
LOL. While I am diametrically opposed to what you wrote, I enjoyed your 'tongue and cheekiness'. I prefer the eternal view: Moro. 7: 44 "none is acceptable before God, save the meek."


Meekness is vital to becoming more Christlike. Without it one cannot develop other important virtues. . . Acquiring meekness is a process. . . More meekness does not translate to weakness, but it is the presentation of self in a posture of kindness and gentleness. It reflects certitude, strength, serenity; it reflects a healthy self-esteem and a genuine self-control. - Neal A. Maxwell, Meekly Drenched in Destiny

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle)
tailor STATELY

Bar22do
07-22-2010, 06:48 AM
Being meek ain’t what it’s cracked up to be,
not as far as I can see.
In fact,
being meek will gain you nothing,
except perhaps a casual cuffing
round the back of the head.
It’s like I said,
the meek ain’t bullet proof,
and when they’re hit they’ll lose a tooth
just like you or me.
Being meek just gets you killed
by soldiers, people skilled
in dealing with the weak.
Inheriting the earth? Well, yes, it’s true,
there’s six feet of it reserved for you
if you insist on being meek.
Jesus really should have said
that being meek can make you dead
but that just wasn’t what he sold
to all the weaklings, young and old.
That’s the thing about religion;
jam tomorrow is always the position.

Though not Christian, I'm with tS on this one! But as it now became commonplace, your steady verse is - killing!

Very best to you, Hawk the Untamed! Bar

PrinceMyshkin
07-22-2010, 07:55 AM
Aside from the truth or otherwise of the content, one (I) can't help but admire the fluent facility of its expression. Thanks,

dafydd manton
07-22-2010, 08:10 AM
Hawk Strikes Again! You are, Sir, a Cynic of the first water, and I applaud you to the echo!! Nice one!

angliholic
07-22-2010, 08:51 AM
Being meek ain’t what it’s cracked up to be,
not as far as I can see.
In fact,
being meek will gain you nothing,
except perhaps a casual cuffing
round the back of the head.
It’s like I said,
the meek ain’t bullet proof,
and when they’re hit they’ll lose a tooth
just like you or me.
Being meek just gets you killed
by soldiers, people skilled
in dealing with the weak.
Inheriting the earth? Well, yes, it’s true,
there’s six feet of it reserved for you
if you insist on being meek.
Jesus really should have said
that being meek can make you dead
but that just wasn’t what he sold
to all the weaklings, young and old.
That’s the thing about religion;
jam tomorrow is always the position.

Hi, Hawkman.

You're really good with words.

A magician of words you are indeed.

Nevertheless, meet is a priceless treasure

For people, rich or poor

Strong or weak,

Wise or silly.

What I said, I mean.


LOL. While I am diametrically opposed to what you wrote, I enjoyed your 'tongue and cheekiness'. I prefer the eternal view: Moro. 7: 44 "none is acceptable before God, save the meek."



Ta ! (short for tarradiddle)
tailor STATELY

Hi, Tailor.

Well put!

I couldn't agree with you more.

YOu virtually took that right out of my mouth.

The quote I love especially!

But does "Meekly drenched in the destiny" refer to?

By the way, what did you mean by "taradiddle" here? I looked it up, but it has at least three meanings.

adityasam
07-22-2010, 09:13 AM
It’s like I said,
the meek ain’t bullet proof,
and when they’re hit they’ll lose a tooth
just like you or me.

I liked these lines. Nice and Funny Poem!

:party:

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 10:26 AM
Well! What a lot of responses. I don't know, I turn my back for a couple of hours and everyone decides this is the time to leave me a note :D

Firstly then, thank you all for reading and commenting, especially as you all seem to have enjoyed this poem. :)

However, there's nothing for it but to thank you all indiviually as well, so to begin:

tailor, Glad you got the point and I echo your sentiment, "God save the meek." after all, nobody else will...

Sweet Bar, To please you with my words is its own reward. I therefore would hope that you are in no danger of expiring from the effects of my, "Killing verse" :D (Untamed, hmmm... Does that make me rampant?)

My Prince, "...fluency of expression." Thank you sir, I love words and I enjoy combining them and putting them in the right order. It's amazing how many ways there are... ;)

Dafydd, or are you now going under the handle of Daffy? Such appreciation from a fellow Bard is exceedingly gratifying, so thanks my friend.

angliholic, thank you as well, you are too kind.

adityasam, thanks and I'm glad you liked it.

Live long and prosper my friends, H

dafydd manton
07-22-2010, 10:44 AM
Hawk, you can call me anything you like, except late for supper!!

Thanks you for the "fellow bard" compliment. If only.....

May the farce be with you!

D

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 10:48 AM
May the farce be with you!

D

And also with you!

H

PrinceMyshkin
07-22-2010, 11:52 AM
[QUOTE=Hawkman;926247My Prince, "...fluency of expression." Thank you sir, I love words and I enjoy combining them and putting them in the right order. It's amazing how many ways there are... ;)[/QUOTE]

But is there ever a Platonic "right order"? Evidently you yourself don't think so, since you add the remark about "how many ways there are".

The whole of your remarks invite - or challenge ? - me to compose a poem in which as far as possible the words are put in some wrong order, and yet the poem works.

Jerrybaldy
07-22-2010, 12:06 PM
Cynicism becomes you H. Inspired by your words, Im going out meekbeating just after me tea. ;)
JB

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 12:22 PM
Actually my Prince, I was thinking along the lines that there are so many differnt combinations which are right. Hence the variety of poems :D

Notwithstanding, I like the sound of your idea and I look forward to seeing you post the result!

Hi Jerry, I'm glad to be able to claim that I inspired someone! However, my little poem was not actually advocating some kind of Chrystalnacht or a final solution for the meek.

I think it's best to advertise your intent if you are going to go meek bashing, it gives them the opportunity to run away, should their meekness prevent them from actively defending themselves. I recommend either a Black or a brown shirt. These seem to be universal signifiers when it comes to unfriendly sympathies.

Yours, worried H

dafydd manton
07-22-2010, 12:26 PM
Cynicism becomes you H. Inspired by your words, Im going out meekbeating just after me tea. ;)
JB

Meekbeating - the new Olympic Sport!! What a fantastic idea! Think fo the spin-offs, though. Meekbats, Meeksticks. Geekbeating. Even a new public holiday called Meekweek. Just imagine, when it goes international, and the Greeks get their hands on it. Oh, the Tabloid headlines! :banana:

AuntShecky
07-22-2010, 02:16 PM
A remarkable and refreshing topic to choose in this age of narcissism and shameless self-aggrandizement Your speaker seems to come down really strong against the meek, though that stance could be interpreted as ironic. (Well, that's the way this meek reader wishes it to be.)

In any event, back in my childhood it was my understanding that the N.T. passage "The Meek shall inherit the Earth," was similar to another one, "The last shall be first, and the first shall be last." (Which optimistic American baseball fans could quote regarding the mid-season standings.) Be that as it may, some sects of early Christians believed that the Kingdom of God was imminent, not merely in the afterlife, but right here in (on?) the terra firma.

The last line of your verse is a little troubling, maybe a bit roughly executed. But I get the gist of it: to quote Woody Guthrie: "There'll be pie in the sky when you die."

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 03:53 PM
Hi Auntie,

and having watched, "Mad Max, Beyond the Thunerdome", last night on TV, the name Auntie conjours an image of an authoritarian, chain-mail-wearing, pop-diva, Is this really you? I ask myself, but I digress.

But to your comment. To be honest, I'm not really down on "The Meek" but more on the wanton adoption of meekness. To be meek implies passivity and in the face of agression, passivity is a losing strategy. The sportsmen in the ball games, of which you are so fond, will know this I suspect. :D

Sorry you don't like the closing couplet but it works for me :D

Live and be well Auntie and thanks for stopping by to share your observations.

Best, H

Bar22do
07-22-2010, 04:25 PM
Hi Auntie,

and having watched, "Mad Max, Beyond the Thunerdome", last night on TV, the name Auntie conjours an image of an authoritarian, chain-mail-wearing, pop-diva, Is this really you? I ask myself, but I digress.

But to your comment. To be honest, I'm not really down on "The Meek" but more on the wanton adoption of meekness. To be meek implies passivity and in the face of agression, passivity is a losing strategy. The sportsmen in the ball games, of which you are so fond, will know this I suspect. :D

Sorry you don't like the closing couplet but it works for me :D

Live and be well Auntie and thanks for stopping by to share your observations.

Best, H

I must disagree with your generalisation that meek passivity is a losing strategy in the face of aggression. I can recall at least TWO concrete life threatening situations in my own life when "meek passivity" literally SAVED ME!! and there're more...

Bar (in search of her - d)

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 05:23 PM
Sweet Bar,

Not being privy to the circumstances of your situation I am unable to comment other that to say that I am inordinately glad that you were saved. There is an old saying that discretion is the better part of valour. There are times when it may be better not to act overtly.

But contained self-discipline is not the same as meekness. One who is habitually accustomed to meekness lacks the ability to act when they need to. Positive action need not necessarily imply that you should stand and fight. Running away is not meekly accepting your fate any more than fighting is. The sad fact is, that more often than not, it is the fate of the meek to die on their knees. I would rather, either stand and fight, or run away to fight another day.

Live and be well. H

Jerrybaldy
07-22-2010, 05:38 PM
Frankly H I am appalled you would have a go at the meek. Its not as if their trembling hands would allow them to type a reply. ;)

I can understand where Bar is coming from in that passivity is sometimes the right response in a given situation. For example if somebody asked for my sandwiches at gun point I would probably favour a handing over of the ham to a lunge for the gun.

But I see mostly humour in your poem and enjoyed the read. Gotta go, brown shirt needs an iron.
JB

Hawkman
07-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Frankly H I am appalled you would have a go at the meek. Its not as if their trembling hands would allow them to type a reply. ;)

I can understand where Bar is coming from in that passivity is sometimes the right response in a given situation. For example if somebody asked for my sandwiches at gun point I would probably favour a handing over of the ham to a lunge for the gun.

But I see mostly humour in your poem and enjoyed the read. Gotta go, brown shirt needs an iron.
JB

I did say that discretion was the better part of valour :D

Ah so you're a Brown man! I'm sorry, I had you down as biege ;) Watch out for the brass buttons.

Glad you enjoyed it. Best, H

tailor STATELY
07-22-2010, 06:13 PM
@ angliholic


:Originally Posted by tailor STATELY

Ta ! (short for tarradiddle)

But does "Meekly drenched in the destiny" refer to?

By the way, what did you mean by "taradiddle" here? I looked it up, but it has at least three meanings.

'Tarradiddle' is one of my latest found words that tickles me. In conjunction with the closing 'Ta ! (short for tarradiddle)' it illuminates the absurdity that 'ta' might actually mean 'tarradiddle'. My usage of the word then would be a minor falsehood or pretentious gaff in my 'good-bye'; ie: silly word play.

"Meekly Drenched in Destiny" was a talk given by one of my church's authorities, Neal A. Maxwell, to Brigham Young University which is available on the web to view and mp3.

With apologies to Hawkman,
tailor STATELY

angliholic
07-23-2010, 02:12 AM
@ angliholic



'Tarradiddle' is one of my latest found words that tickles me. In conjunction with the closing 'Ta ! (short for tarradiddle)' it illuminates the absurdity that 'ta' might actually mean 'tarradiddle'. My usage of the word then would be a minor falsehood or pretentious gaff in my 'good-bye'; ie: silly word play.

"Meekly Drenched in Destiny" was a talk given by one of my church's authorities, Neal A. Maxwell, to Brigham Young University which is available on the web to view and mp3.

With apologies to Hawkman,
tailor STATELY

Thanks, Tailor, for the clear-cut explanation.

For the sake of curiosity, what does the title "Meekly Drenched in Destiny" mean litterally?

P.S.
You must be a momon. I have lots of momon friends here in Taiwan; they are angels. I really admire your church and the nice people there!

tailor STATELY
07-23-2010, 03:38 AM
@ angliholic

For the sake of curiosity, what does the title "Meekly Drenched in Destiny" mean litterally?

P.S.
You must be a momon. I have lots of momon friends here in Taiwan; they are angels. I really admire your church and the nice people there!

PM'd a reply

Sincerely,
tailor STATELY