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SilentMute
05-24-2010, 03:41 PM
In my medical coding class, while doing CORE, we learned about Abraham Maslow. Maslow developed a theory about human needs. At the bottom were physiological needs--water, food, constant temperature, air, etc. Next came safety--need for physical safety, job security, etc. Then came belonging--the need to be loved, to belong to a family or a group of people.

At the very top was self-actualization. Maslow claimed only a small portion of the population achieved this. When you achieved self-actualization, you were happy. You didn't have any regrets or any unfinished business when you looked back on your life.

Now, there are some flaws--I think--to this theory. For one thing, I often find that as I get happy and content with my life, my brain decides to bring something up that distresses me--a blocked memory, something that has been brewing on the back burner. Recently, I became aware of the social tensions that are going on around me--and realizing that despite my best efforts to be an enlightened person, I have prejudices.

Maslow's theory, I think, assumes that self-actualization is the end. I believe that at every end there is a beginning. But in general, despite a few days of distress, I say I am actually a pretty happy person. Sometimes I feel overwhelmed, but eventually a second wind comes and I find a solution. I have discovered I have prejudices against my fellow man--well, that makes me all the more determined to be a better person.

So, even though it is a flawed theory, do you think you have achieved self-actualization? Do you think you ever will? What stage do you think you are at?

The stages are (1 being the bottom):
1) Physiological
2) Safety
3) Belonging
4) Esteem--self-esteem and respect of others
5) Self-actualization

The "I'm part of a grasshopper's dream" option on the poll is for our philosophers, who might debate some abstract point that doesn't answer the question. They can't achieve self-actualization because they are part of a grasshopper's dream, and when the grasshopper gets stepped on--they will cease to exist.

soundofmusic
05-24-2010, 04:32 PM
After 55 years of life, I have acheived one, almost: yes, I have air,food, and a roof over my head.

Do I feel safe...No, I guess I'm a bit of a grasshopper who believes that there is always a tomorrow to do better in!

motherhubbard
05-24-2010, 04:37 PM
I love Maslow. When I'm working with people (parents or children) my mind always comes back to this hierarchy. Self actualization is a long term goal of mine. I think I have reached it, but that I must continue to reach it every day.

Scheherazade
05-24-2010, 05:19 PM
I love Maslow. When I'm working with people (parents or children) my mind always comes back to this hierarchy.Same here and I am not sure it is flawed.

It is true that not all of us will achieve self-actualisation stage; however, the towards self-actualisation remains the same for all of us.

Also, I think these stages apply for our day-to-day life as well, which, in my opinion, might explain the temporary lapses Silent mentions.

Niamh
05-24-2010, 05:20 PM
never heard of this...
From looking at that i think i jump around between the first four. I dont think i'll ever reach self-actualisation. Too insecure.

Whifflingpin
05-24-2010, 06:59 PM
From my memory of the hierarchy, esteem and self actualisation are, in Maslow's model, needs that cannot be satisfied - the more you get, the more you want, or something. Unlike the lower needs, that can be satisfied and then cease (for the time being) to be needs.

SilentMute
05-24-2010, 07:57 PM
I got a brush course in this--so I'm not an expert.

Why I said I wasn't certain if it was perfect is that I wasn't certain whether it was Maslow that said you couldn't move on to the next level unless the one level you were in was satisfied. I don't find that is always true. The family down the street ran out of food in the middle of the week, but they always felt like they belonged socially.

And I'm not sure Maslow considered that once you reached a stage--you stayed there. I have not found that to be the case personally.

Virgil
05-24-2010, 09:40 PM
I would say I'm close to self actualization. I took the full Maslow test many years ago and I forget what personality type I was.

applepie
05-25-2010, 10:00 AM
I think I'm floating somewhere along between belonging and esteem. I don't think I'll ever be one of those people who reach actualization. I'm too flawed, and more importantly I don't know if I would like to give up my regrets or old business. They are lessons hard earned, and they feed my satisfaction with where I am now in life. Mostly, I don't think that my ego can ever be satisfied. I'm too self driven to ever be happy with settling in life, but circumstances keep me from acting on desires I have.

Virgil
05-25-2010, 10:17 AM
I think I'm floating somewhere along between belonging and esteem. I don't think I'll ever be one of those people who reach actualization. I'm too flawed, and more importantly I don't know if I would like to give up my regrets or old business. They are lessons hard earned, and they feed my satisfaction with where I am now in life. Mostly, I don't think that my ego can ever be satisfied. I'm too self driven to ever be happy with settling in life, but circumstances keep me from acting on desires I have.

We're all flawed Meg. Getting toward actualization takes many years and a whole lot older than being in one's twenties. :wink5:

soundofmusic
05-25-2010, 10:20 AM
I feel safe on the months I can pay all the bills when they're due; but I usually get some wierd virus about then and have to stop working for a while...bang.
I feel that I belong as long as I am fitting in; then I do one of those things where the mouth moves before the brain, someone rebuffs me and I begin to feel alienated...bang

I'll just stay down here with my air and water, it's kind of nice down here...lots of room...:nod:

Whifflingpin
05-25-2010, 12:32 PM
Maslow was not describing a hierarchy of people, but a hierarchy of needs. These are needs that motivate, or can motivate, everybody, and their importance to any individual is in constant flux. So you might think that the world's greatest violinist is motivated by the need for self-actualisation; but when she gets hungry she will stop practising and eat; if someone throws an egg at her, she'll duck; she'll build relationships with her family or join an orchestra; and if she's repeatedly told she's rubbish she'll try harder or do something she might be better at.

The lower needs are likely to take precedence over the higher ones - a hungry violinist would play the music best calculated to get pennies from passers by, whereas a well fed one would play for the sense of self-fulfilment.

applepie
05-25-2010, 12:36 PM
We're all flawed Meg. Getting toward actualization takes many years and a whole lot older than being in one's twenties. :wink5:

Touche :lol: I've plenty of years to worry over it, but mostly I don't. I'm pretty happy with life, warts and all.