The Rainbow Latte Thread

[DanielBenoit]

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! Here comes lit-net's official gay thread! For all queens and lesbians (and our tolerant straight-friends :) ). Here let your gayness run amuck and tear down these disgusting things:

http://www.nhmodularhomes.com/images/photo_gallery/probuilt/closet_door.jpg

(Damn it, closets are for your clothes!)

This is just going to be a fun discussion thread where lads and ladies can discuss everything gay. Seriousness is allowed, but we would prefer bigotry to be left out of the picture.

Are you gay, les or bi? Do share :D

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID23164/images/gayflag.jpg

[OrphanPip]

Haha, the title makes it look like you're advertising for a new Starbucks coffee or something, they totally should have a rainbow latte.

I'm not sure I have much gay stuff to talk about though :willy_nilly:

[DanielBenoit]

I'm not sure I have much gay stuff to talk about though :willy_nilly:

Let's start by talking about how hot Joseph Fiennes is :drool5:

http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Joseph-Fiennes.jpg

[JuniperWoolf]

Haha, the title makes it look like you're advertising for a new Starbucks coffee or something, they totally should have a rainbow latte.


That's totally what I thought this thread was going to be about.

http://www.anntorrence.com/blog/at-images/latte_remix.jpg

[OrphanPip]

Fantastic, I'll drink my rainbow latte while listening to Erasure and ogling Joseph Fiennes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeUPFjQHc

A positively gay old time.

[DanielBenoit]

Fantastic, I'll drink my rainbow latte while listening to Erasure and ogling Joseph Fiennes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMeUPFjQHc

A positively gay old time.

Ever since talking to you I've realized how positively gay the eighties were.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXA_DYapGgc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydkaJwqRWyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPLrXFw76Qg

[Niamh]

Haha, the title makes it look like you're advertising for a new Starbucks coffee or something, they totally should have a rainbow latte.

I'm not sure I have much gay stuff to talk about though :willy_nilly:

I thought thats what this thread was about too! :lol:


Let's start by talking about how hot Joseph Fiennes is :drool5:

http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Joseph-Fiennes.jpg

Oh dear! what did i start by posting his sexy image in the celeb crush thread! (back off boys! He's mine!)

You know he's a twin right? Yep there are TWO of him. :svengo:

[Katy North]

TWO!!??

Am I allowed in this thread? I'm bi, so I'm not strictly rainbow, more like rainbow-light... :biggrin5:

[Niamh]

I'm straight and i'm here so i definitely reckon you are allowed! :p

[DanielBenoit]

Am I allowed in this thread? I'm bi, so I'm not strictly rainbow, more like rainbow-light... :biggrin5:

Bi is the best. You get double the amount of variety :D

[soundofmusic]

Daniel, I see you don't have a pole...no, I mean like for voting: Gay, straight and bi.
It seems that while I have been sitting in the wings, a few of our eagles have sprouted a gay feather or two. Is it something that people suddenly decided to do for the new decade... I feel so out of touch:ihih:

Okay, I'm totally straight...probably because I have always had a powerful fear of anything dark and cavernous:cold: Now many of my queen friends tell me that there is no such thing as "Bi"; so, is a bi someone who likes certain qualities that are equally attractive in men and women?

[DanielBenoit]

Daniel, I see you don't have a pole...no, I mean like for voting: Gay, straight and bi.

Ahh, getting right on it :nod:



Okay, I'm totally straight...probably because I have always had a powerful fear of anything dark and cavernous:cold: Now many of my queen friends tell me that there is no such thing as "Bi"; so, is a bi someone who likes certain qualities that are equally attractive in men and women?

Well there is a certain hostility amongst some fractions of the gay community towards the concept of bisexuality since it is in some cases merely a homosexual creating a middle-ground so as to only be "half out of the closet".

That said, bisexuality most certainly exists and it has even been suggested that large portions of the population could be considered bisexual (depending on the parameters of how you define "bisexual").

Now as to your question as to what bisexuality is, it can mainly be anyone who feels emotional and physical attraction towards both sexes, though the, for lack of a better word, distribution of the attraction does not always have to be equal. I've considered my self 30% gay and 70% straight based on past experiences lol.

[Katy North]

I imagine it's different for everyone... I'm not actively bi, though I do know I feel a physical attraction to women as well as men. It's not a similar attraction either, I am attracted to feminine women and masculine men. My husband knows, but besides him and this forum I am almost completely closeted... since it's not something I'm actively doing anything about, I figure most people don't need to know much about it. It's nice being able to talk to someone else about it though.

Being bi doesn't mean you can't be monogamus... it just means that if my husband hadn't reeled me in first I may have eventually fallen for a pretty girl instead of a handsome man! :nod:

[DanielBenoit]

I imagine it's different for everyone... I'm not actively bi, though I do know I feel a physical attraction to women as well as men. It's not a similar attraction either, I am attracted to feminine women and masculine men.

For me I'm attracted to cute guys with nice biceps and smart independent women with short hair lol.


I'm straight and i'm here so i definitely reckon you are allowed! :p

Well, I've just installed a gaydar so you have to be at least 50% gay to access this webpage :p :willy_nilly:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd259/gobbleinwoods/sheep%20camp/gaydarPNG.png

[OrphanPip]

Haha I guess I'll break down the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bi, transgender) community.

Sexual Identities:

Gay - Men who identify with a predominant, or exclusive sexual attraction for other men.

Lesbian - Same thing except replace men with women :p (these two are obvious)

Bi - Admit to varying degrees of attraction to same and other gender.

Pansexual - Claim sexual attraction not effected by sex.

Gender Identities:

Cis male or cis female - biologically male or female who identifies with their biological sex.

Transmale/transfemale - gender identity differs from their biological identity

Genderqueer - Doesn't identify with any gender identity.

[DanielBenoit]

I just took a 'How Gay are You?' test, scored a 54% . . . .I'm just not that into musicals lol.

You are 54% Homosexual
You're either Bi, or bi-curious:
Although you may have a taste for women, no one ever said that you couldn't dip alittle in the other pool. You one of the experimenters, the one who isn't afriad to try new things, and is obviously happy doing whatever pleases him.
The How Gay R U Quiz? (http://www.gotoquiz.com/the_how_gay_r_u_quiz)
Take More Quizzes (http://www.gotoquiz.com/)

[OrphanPip]

Haha, I think the test is flawed.

You are 36% Homosexual
You're a little bit Metro...:
Although it's clear you're not gay, you still have an air of faggotry around you. No one ever really questions your sexuality, but they wouldn't be suprised if they saw you with Mitch or Moe.
The How Gay R U Quiz? (http://www.gotoquiz.com/the_how_gay_r_u_quiz)
Take More Quizzes (http://www.gotoquiz.com/)

[DanielBenoit]

Yeah it's not exactly the most accurate gaydar around lol. Besides, does it really make you gay if you use smilies and hearts a lot while texting? Well. . . . . in the case of the latter, I suppose :lol:

But. . . .if the test is accurate, that means I'm gayer than OrphanPip :willy_nilly: :lol:

(you know, ever since making this thread, I've been getting a TON of ads with shirtless guys in them. It's quite a nice change of scenery lol)

[OrphanPip]

But. . . .if the test is accurate, that means I'm gayer than OrphanPip :willy_nilly: :lol:


I better call my mother, she'll be thrilled to hear the good news.

I'm getting Sears ads right now, Sears is totally the gay Wal-Mart.

[Jozanny]

I wonder if this means my love of coffee increases my homophobic tendencies. Mmm.

[DanielBenoit]

I wonder if this means my love of coffee increases my homophobic tendencies. Mmm.

Bahh, I've been regretting the title ever since I first posted. I was suggesting names to OrphanPip but none of them sounded not-too extravigant or not-too boring. I suggested "Queer's Corner" but Pip said it "sounded like one of those PBS shows that nobody watches" and he considered the plain and simple "The Gay Thread" to be too "boring." I had a few other names that were most likely too inappropriate to even consider.

Too bad, in all of my lack of self-consciousness failed to realize that "Rainbow Latte" totally sounded like a thread concerning some new Starbucks coffee. Then again, it was keeping in with the theme of drinks as with the "Cold Ale Blokes Thread" or the "Anyone for Coffee?" thread. Bahh, either way, the title's here to stay.


I better call my mother, she'll be thrilled to hear the good news.

Wait a minute. . . maybe you're a closeted straight-guy? Out with it Pip! :p

[Jozanny]

It is a creative title kid, no sweat. I'm cool as long as the girls don't hit on me :lol:

[Basil]

The way this forum acts at times, I fully expect this thread to prompt a "Let's Hear It For Heteros!" thread in response. I'm only half-joking.

[OrphanPip]

Bahh, I've been regretting the title ever since I first posted. I was suggesting names to OrphanPip but none of them sounded not-too extravigant or not-too boring. I suggested "Queer's Corner" but Pip said it "sounded like one of those PBS shows that nobody watches" and he considered the plain and simple "The Gay Thread" to be too "boring." I had a few other names that were most likely too inappropriate to even consider.

Too bad, in all of my lack of self-consciousness failed to realize that "Rainbow Latte" totally sounded like a thread concerning some new Starbucks coffee. Then again, it was keeping in with the theme of drinks as with the "Cold Ale Blokes Thread" or the "Anyone for Coffee?" thread. Bahh, either way, the title's here to stay.

Haha, yes it's all my fault. Title should have been "Anyone for Appletinis? - The Gay Thread."



Wait a minute. . . maybe you're a closeted straight-guy? Out with it Pip! :p

I'm afraid the secret is out, I've always wanted to be an interior decorator and the appearance of being gay is simply necessary to get anywhere in the business.


The way this forum acts at times, I fully expect this thread to prompt a "Let's Hear It For Heteros!" thread in response. I'm only half-joking.

I'm all for it, the breeders out there deserve some recognition since they make the world go round, what with the reproduction and all being necessary for the continued existence of the species.

[soundofmusic]

Ahh, getting right on it :nod:

Well there is a certain hostility amongst some fractions of the gay community towards the concept of bisexuality since it is in some cases merely a homosexual creating a middle-ground so as to only be "half out of the closet".

That said, bisexuality most certainly exists and it has even been suggested that large portions of the population could be considered bisexual (depending on the parameters of how you define "bisexual").

Now as to your question as to what bisexuality is, it can mainly be anyone who feels emotional and physical attraction towards both sexes, though the, for lack of a better word, distribution of the attraction does not always have to be equal. I've considered my self 30% gay and 70% straight based on past experiences lol.
Thank you, Daniel. The point about being half out of the closet never occurred to me! Most of the gay people I know knew from early childhood that they were gay (and their friends knew before they did).
I think you and Pip have done a great service by opening this thread; of course, I realize it's main purpose was not to educate the heterosexual population, but a great deal of prejudice exists out of ignorance (aside from the few religious zealots):
I recall a few people who decided to "help me" with a gay relative: they implied that she had a bad mother, or had been sexually molested, or could be changed with the proper influences.


I imagine it's different for everyone... I'm not actively bi, though I do know I feel a physical attraction to women as well as men. It's not a similar attraction either, I am attracted to feminine women and masculine men. My husband knows, but besides him and this forum I am almost completely closeted... since it's not something I'm actively doing anything about, I figure most people don't need to know much about it. It's nice being able to talk to someone else about it though.

Being bi doesn't mean you can't be monogamus... it just means that if my husband hadn't reeled me in first I may have eventually fallen for a pretty girl instead of a handsome man! :nod:

You make some excellent points, Katy! I have always wondered if a bisexual person would somehow feel unfufilled having a relationship with only one sex.(Of course, most of us have some sort of wish fulfillment that is left unresolved with any relationship)
Most of my gay female friends are what scientists refer to as "intersexuals"; so they are not particularly feminine. I almost never meet soft female gays; Do you?

For me I'm attracted to cute guys with nice biceps...
Well, I've just installed a gaydar so you have to be at least 50% gay to access this webpage :p :willy_nilly:

Well, we have something in common. I also like cute guys with nice biceps; though it really helps if they develop their abs, hips and legs.
Love the gaydar....
I was thinking it would also be nice to have a thread for serious gay-related topics. I have often tried to sell my friends on the idea of gays in a solid relationship receiving their significant others health care, social security, and so on; whether they choose to marry or not...
We have also went several rounds on the concept of adopting and fostering children...

Haha I guess I'll break down the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bi, transgender) community.

Sexual Identities:

Gay - Men who identify with a predominant, or exclusive sexual attraction for other men.

Lesbian - Same thing except replace men with women :p (these two are obvious)

Bi - Admit to varying degrees of attraction to same and other gender.

Pansexual - Claim sexual attraction not effected by sex.

Gender Identities:

Cis male or cis female - biologically male or female who identifies with their biological sex.

Transmale/transfemale - gender identity differs from their biological identity

Genderqueer - Doesn't identify with any gender identity.
Thank you, Pip. That makes things alot more comprehensible! Particularly with the transgender people; I was not sure whether they could be considered gay.
I used to talk to one fellow all of the time at the VA. ( In the old days, the service would pay for transgender surgery; so alot of the folks wanting this surgery would join Uncle Sam) He had only had his chest redone and took female hormones; I never had the courage to ask why he didn't complete the transistion. As a transgender female, he was attracted to women; so I guess he became gay?:confused5:

Yeah it's not exactly the most accurate gaydar around lol. Besides, does it really make you gay if you use smilies and hearts a lot while texting? Well. . . . . in the case of the latter, I suppose :lol:

But. . . .if the test is accurate, that means I'm gayer than OrphanPip :willy_nilly: :lol:

Oh God, I use smilies too:willy_nilly:
Do we all agree that Orphan Pip is like one of the coolest totally gay dudes ever? He just moves so easily between the most bloky threads, to the brilliant research and philosophical stuff, and always comes back in time for the rainbow parades...
I think we should bring him to the states; wouldn't he make a nice candidate the next time they decide to have "one of each": the female, the mixed race dude and the gay guy":patriot:

I better call my mother, she'll be thrilled to hear the good news.

I'm getting Sears ads right now, Sears is totally the gay Wal-Mart.

You're kidding; all of my bible-belt, republican, intolerant relatives shop there!

[OrphanPip]

You're kidding; all of my bible-belt, republican, intolerant relatives shop there!

Hahaha, I was just commenting on the Sears ads appearing for me on this thread instead of gay dating ads.

I kind of think of Sears as slightly more swanky than Wal-Mart, but no where near being a "real" classy department store.



Most of my gay female friends are what scientists refer to as "intersexuals"; so they are not particularly feminine. I almost never meet soft female gays; Do you?

I know a few, we call them lipstick lesbians.



I was thinking it would also be nice to have a thread for serious gay-related topics. I have often tried to sell my friends on the idea of gays in a solid relationship receiving their significant others health care, social security, and so on; whether they choose to marry or not...
We have also went several rounds on the concept of adopting and fostering children...

Probably would get too close to being current politics. Luckily, in Canada gay people have full marriage and inheritance rights as well as adoption rights in most of the provinces, and discrimination on basis of sexual orientation is explicitly forbidden in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.



Thank you, Pip. That makes things alot more comprehensible! Particularly with the transgender people; I was not sure whether they could be considered gay.
I used to talk to one fellow all of the time at the VA. ( In the old days, the service would pay for transgender surgery; so alot of the folks wanting this surgery would join Uncle Sam) He had only had his chest redone and took female hormones; I never had the courage to ask why he didn't complete the transistion. As a transgender female, he was attracted to women; so I guess he became gay?:confused5:

In general it would be based in reference to their gender identity, although I would leave it up to the transgendered people to decide what they are.



Oh God, I use smilies too:willy_nilly:
Do we all agree that Orphan Pip is like one of the coolest totally gay dudes ever? He just moves so easily between the most bloky threads, to the brilliant research and philosophical stuff, and always comes back in time for the rainbow parades...
I think we should bring him to the states; wouldn't he make a nice candidate the next time they decide to have "one of each": the female, the mixed race dude and the gay guy":patriot:

I agree, I am cool and I should be president of the world.

[papayahed]

Bahh, I've been regretting the title ever since I first posted. I was suggesting names to OrphanPip but none of them sounded not-too extravigant or not-too boring. I suggested "Queer's Corner" but Pip said it "sounded like one of those PBS shows that nobody watches" and he considered the plain and simple "The Gay Thread" to be too "boring." I had a few other names that were most likely too inappropriate to even consider.

Too bad, in all of my lack of self-consciousness failed to realize that "Rainbow Latte" totally sounded like a thread concerning some new Starbucks coffee. Then again, it was keeping in with the theme of drinks as with the "Cold Ale Blokes Thread" or the "Anyone for Coffee?" thread. Bahh, either way, the title's here to stay.


If you can find a nice enough mod and made the request a title can be changed.

How about: The Rainbow Room (another PBS show?)




Well, I've just installed a gaydar so you have to be at least 50% gay to access this webpage :p :willy_nilly:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd259/gobbleinwoods/sheep%20camp/gaydarPNG.png


awwww helllll.

[Jozanny]

The way this forum acts at times, I fully expect this thread to prompt a "Let's Hear It For Heteros!" thread in response. I'm only half-joking.

But straight is de classe these days:biggrin5:

[soundofmusic]

Hahaha, I was just commenting on the Sears ads appearing for me

I know a few, we call them lipstick lesbians.

Probably would get too close to being current politics. Luckily, in Canada gay people have full marriage and inheritance rights as well as adoption rights in most of the provinces, and discrimination on basis of sexual orientation is explicitly forbidden in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

In general it would be based in reference to their gender identity, although I would leave it up to the transgendered people to decide what they are.

I agree, I am cool and I should be president of the world.
The ads really have the best in models; I love all of the old stuff on Robert Pattinson...
Lipstick Lesbians, I like it. I and my daughter were discussing this today, and agreed that if there were more "Lipstick Lesbians" there might be more of us heteros willing to examine our gay side:goof:
Yes, everything on this forum eventually becomes religion or politics; particularly after Easter:argue:
No wonder people never leave CAnada on a permanent basis!
I must admit; I can't blame anyone for wanting it all:ihih:
Yes, you are definitely very cool; but I think you might want to start with the problems going on "under you":patriot:

If you can find a nice enough mod and made the request a title can be changed.

How about: The Rainbow Room (another PBS show?)

awwww helllll.
That would be great; and I know of this really cool moderator...as a matter of fact she's; ah yes, Papaya...
It would be good to change the name; I also thought is was about coffee


But straight is de classe these days:biggrin5:

Okay, I know this is showing my ignorance; but what does "de classe" mean:confused5:

[DanielBenoit]

By popular demand, the poll has been installed.

[Jozanny]

Okay, I know this is showing my ignorance; but what does "de classe" mean:confused5:



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/declasse

I studied the French language for five long hard and evidently futile years, evidently trying to sublimate my man-girl mind:biggrin5:

I had a few lesbians and or sexually frustrated disabled women hit on me, and I survived, and I pictured myself sliding into one of those TOO MUCH INFORMATION POSTS, and wondered if thinking the better of it was the wiser course, and that it probably is, but I had clients of both sexes engage in inappropriate contact, and I played it down, given that I was in designated mental health zones. Maybe turning up the volume, however, would have been better for me emotionally, saying something to my executive director, for instance. Moot, I guess, at this point.

[soundofmusic]

By popular demand, the poll has been installed.
You're the man, Daniel. As I look around the other threads, I am forever amazed by your brilliance.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/declasse

I studied the French language for five long hard and evidently futile years, evidently trying to sublimate my man-girl mind:biggrin5:

I had a few lesbians and or sexually frustrated disabled women hit on me, and I survived, and I pictured myself sliding into one of those TOO MUCH INFORMATION POSTS, and wondered if thinking the better of it was the wiser course, and that it probably is, but I had clients of both sexes engage in inappropriate contact, and I played it down, given that I was in designated mental health zones. Maybe turning up the volume, however, would have been better for me emotionally, saying something to my executive director, for instance. Moot, I guess, at this point.

Thanks Jozanny.
I was only "hot enough" when I was young to be hit on by girls. I worked at Burdines when I was 24. My manager was this absolutely beautiful, sexy girl who all the men (and women) lusted after...I was just intimidated. After working a late shift one night, she told me that she understood that I was in an unhappy marriage and did not want to cheat on my husband; but if I had a relationship with her, it would not really be cheating.
I quit my job the next day; then it took me 2 weeks to try and figure out if I had "put out some lesbian vibe", if I was a lesbian because she was attracted to me, if I was attracted to her because I thought she was hot:confused5::cold::willy_nilly:

[Jozanny]

Yea well, I have heard that rationale before too sound :) I wonder if the younger crowd knows the joke on Family Guy where the wheelchair cop is with the raven haired woman and he says "we have sex," and she interjects, "we had what Joe thinks is sex,". I couldn't stop laughing. I know though, that you can drive yourself crazy with those kind of questions. My married supervisor's gloating sent me into my last therapy session, except that I was too raw to tell the counselor the whole story, and now it kind of doesn't matter, not once the hormones go roller coaster. I guess it depends how secure one is in oneself when these things happen, but with the amputee, in the field, it was 10p.m., the Project Share was her territory, not mine, and if I had tried to break her arm I might have started something I couldn't get out of, and I ended up resigning soon after.

[OrphanPip]

People see what they want to see, so they can mistakenly interpret signs of affection regardless of their orientation. I've been asked out by straight women a few times, and I certainly don't think I put out signs of interest. I don't think I worry too much about sending out too many "straight vibes" to the people around me lol.

I consider it a rule of thumb to think everyone I meet outside of a gay bar/club/group/cafe/event is straight unless they explicitly indicate otherwise.

[soundofmusic]

Yea well, I have heard that rationale before too sound :) I wonder if the younger crowd knows the joke on Family Guy where the wheelchair cop is with the raven haired woman and he says "we have sex," and she interjects, "we had what Joe thinks is sex,". I couldn't stop laughing. I know though, that you can drive yourself crazy with those kind of questions. My married supervisor's gloating sent me into my last therapy session, except that I was too raw to tell the counselor the whole story, and now it kind of doesn't matter, not once the hormones go roller coaster. I guess it depends how secure one is in oneself when these things happen, but with the amputee, in the field, it was 10p.m., the Project Share was her territory, not mine, and if I had tried to break her arm I might have started something I couldn't get out of, and I ended up resigning soon after.
I never saw that family guy; Joe is so cool. I never realized how complicated your world is; I don't think I could handle it. My daughter goes to school with a really nice fellow in a wheelchair. After night class, he wheels across a 5 lane highway to the bus stop; it scares me to death. I'm afraid I would be tempted to stay indoors if I couldn't run across a highway.

People see what they want to see, so they can mistakenly interpret signs of affection regardless of their orientation. I've been asked out by straight women a few times, and I certainly don't think I put out signs of interest. I don't think I worry too much about sending out too many "straight vibes" to the people around me lol.

I consider it a rule of thumb to think everyone I meet outside of a gay bar/club/group/cafe/event is straight unless they explicitly indicate otherwise.

You make a good point, Pip.
I think alot of straight people are under the impression that being gay just means that a person hasn't meant the right member of the opposite sex.
I consider it a rule of thumb that if I meet an incredibly desirable, well maintained and intelligent man; he's gay:lol:
Do alot of guys who claim to be straight and married show up at gay bars?

I've noticed, in my experience, that straight men often like "gay games" so well that it is difficult to get them back to the "oldies, but goodies"...I wonder how they would score on the gaydar:skep:

[OrphanPip]

Do alot of guys who claim to be straight and married show up at gay bars?

Not many haha, usually if a straight guy is at a gay bar he's with a friend and is a bit of a tourist. Straight girls in gay bars are common, but some bars don't let women in.



I've noticed, in my experience, that straight men often like "gay games" so well that it is difficult to get them back to the "oldies, but goodies"...I wonder how they would score on the gaydar:skep:

Hahaha, I don't think there's anything inherently gay about those "gay games."

[DanielBenoit]

never mind actually. .. . .

[soundofmusic]

Hahaha, I don't think there's anything inherently gay about those "gay game."

Really, because the fellows always say, with a huge smile on their face, "I'm not doing that anymore; it's going to turn me gay" But, of course, the next night, they return full of anticipation.


Not many haha, usually if a straight guy is at a gay bar he's with a friend and is a bit of a tourist. Straight girls in gay bars are common, but some bars don't let women in.

My daughter and I used to go to a theatre with an all gay cast and a mostly gay audience. They were superb; their M. Butterfly was better than the Jeremy Irons movie. One night, I don't even remeber the play; but all of the fellows lined up across the stage, stripped and danced. Can you imagine, full frontal nudity in America. After that production, each time we visited their were tons of straight men and women...business doubled:biggrin5:

ONe of the cast members from the theatre also owned a nightclub with male dancers. I had thought about going; it would be nice to sit at a booth, sip my cooler and watch the show without some pervert trying to pick me up...I never quite was brave enough to go, though...I felt like I was barging into one of the few places where gay men could be themselves without a judgemental audience.

One of my patients boyfriends told me that Ft Lauderdale was full of gay bath houses where men could get a room and make love by the hour, get a massage, whatever. I was surprised; because I thought the police would consider them brothels. Have you heard of them?


never mind actually. .. . .

I want to hear what you were going to say, Daniel. I hope I have not been monopolizing the thread; but it is wonderful to have all of this information finally available.
What other ideas did you have for the thread?
You know, I was looking at some old shots of Adam Lambert and thinking, he really came off tough and straight in the old days...
I think I like the young Ralph Fiennes a bit better than his brother...

[DanielBenoit]

I want to hear what you were going to say, Daniel. I hope I have not been monopolizing the thread; but it is wonderful to have all of this information finally available.


No I was just about to post an adjustment I had made to the poll until I had noticed that I couldn't edit it lol.

[OrphanPip]

One of my patients boyfriends told me that Ft Lauderdale was full of gay bath houses where men could get a room and make love by the hour, get a massage, whatever. I was surprised; because I thought the police would consider them brothels. Have you heard of them?


Haha yes I've heard of bath houses, there are quite a few in Montreal as well. They're not actually brothels since you don't pay for sex, you pay a cover charge to get in and then you would have sex with the other patrons of the bath, either in a group setting or a private room. Usually hustlers frequent strip clubs and certain bars instead of bath houses.

[DanielBenoit]

Speaking of bathhouses, you wouldn't imagine what I jokingly considered calling this thread :lol:

[OrphanPip]

Speaking of bathhouses, you wouldn't imagine what I jokingly considered calling this thread :lol:

Haha, ya I remember saying that's way too risque.

Bathhouses are sleezy anyway lol.

[Jozanny]

People see what they want to see, so they can mistakenly interpret signs of affection regardless of their orientation. I've been asked out by straight women a few times, and I certainly don't think I put out signs of interest. I don't think I worry too much about sending out too many "straight vibes" to the people around me lol.

I consider it a rule of thumb to think everyone I meet outside of a gay bar/club/group/cafe/event is straight unless they explicitly indicate otherwise.

I scoot dashed into a coffee house today and I liked the look of a wiry guy who couldn't have been too far off my age and I nearly muttered out loud "I'd like a piece of that but he'd probably tell me he's gay." Aside from the rest of the crap which will eventually exterminate me, I am depressed about any future positive intimacy on my part. I don't have Demi Moore's money to freeze my looks in time. She's my age, but whatever she spent on that body she hasn't seemed to age much since that ghost movie, but I waved at him anyway after he sat back down; maybe I'll see him again on a better day.

I can always get lookers to help me when I grab a door.:biggrin5:

[OrphanPip]

I scoot dashed into a coffee house today and I liked the look of a wiry guy who couldn't have been too far off my age and I nearly muttered out loud "I'd like a piece of that but he'd probably tell me he's gay." Aside from the rest of the crap which will eventually exterminate me, I am depressed about any future positive intimacy on my part. I don't have Demi Moore's money to freeze my looks in time. She's my age, but whatever she spent on that body she hasn't seemed to age much since that ghost movie, but I waved at him anyway after he sat back down; maybe I'll see him again on a better day.

I can always get lookers to help me when I grab a door.:biggrin5:

Haha, if there's a next time you should try to strike up a conversation.

Anyway, tangentially related to the theme of this thread there's a discussion on homosexuality and sex-education going on on my blog.

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/blog.php?b=10260

Edit: On second thought that really isn't tangential but pretty directly related.

[soundofmusic]

Haha yes I've heard of bath houses, there are quite a few in Montreal as well. They're not actually brothels since you don't pay for sex, you pay a cover charge to get in and then you would have sex with the other patrons of the bath, either in a group setting or a private room. Usually hustlers frequent strip clubs and certain bars instead of bath houses.
That is amazing! I wonder if straight people have anything similar; I'm pretty much clueless on the night life of straight people, too. Pip, maybe you should open a thread on straight people; though we all seem to be coming over here anyway:lol:

Speaking of bathhouses, you wouldn't imagine what I jokingly considered calling this thread :lol:
This I want to hear:ihih:

I scoot dashed into a coffee house today and I liked the look of a wiry guy who couldn't have been too far off my age and I nearly muttered out loud "I'd like a piece of that but he'd probably tell me he's gay." Aside from the rest of the crap which will eventually exterminate me, I am depressed about any future positive intimacy on my part. I don't have Demi Moore's money to freeze my looks in time. She's my age, but whatever she spent on that body she hasn't seemed to age much since that ghost movie, but I waved at him anyway after he sat back down; maybe I'll see him again on a better day.
I can always get lookers to help me when I grab a door.:biggrin5:
Actually, I remember some old movies of Demi (before she was Demi) and I think she may have about 10 years on you. They claim she has her own personal people who exfoliate her skin and do laser treatments, she has frequent collagen and from the old pics, she should have a fair amount of surgical scars. I do admire all of the effort she puts into keeping her body in shape. Bruce is looking pretty hot and it never hurts to have a young, hot thing on your arm. I noticed that in one of the movies where Ashton stripped down a bit, he had a good deal of liposuction marks; but he's adorable anyway.
I think we all have those days when we feel depressed and alone. I know I do and I'll bet Pip, Daniel and Katy does. I think the question is more what we are willing to settle for. I have fallen in love with someones personality and have enjoyed physical intimacy with them; but I didn't want to commit to a life sentence with them.
Yeah, I think young guys might be alittle intimidated by the shout out...Now, the old guys; that's a different story:devil:

Haha, if there's a next time you should try to strike up a conversation.

Anyway, tangentially related to the theme of this thread there's a discussion on homosexuality and sex-education going on on my blog.

http://www.online-literature.com/forums/blog.php?b=10260

Edit: On second thought that really isn't tangential but pretty directly related.

Thanks for the heads up, Pip. I look forward to reading your blog.

[OrphanPip]

That is amazing! I wonder if straight people have anything similar; I'm pretty much clueless on the night life of straight people, too. Pip, maybe you should open a thread on straight people; though we all seem to be coming over here anyway:lol:


Haha, I'm not sure I'm much of an expert on gay nightlife either. I don't really drink often so I'm not much of a bar fly.

[applepie]

That is amazing! I wonder if straight people have anything similar; I'm pretty much clueless on the night life of straight people, too. Pip, maybe you should open a thread on straight people; though we all seem to be coming over here anyway:lol:


:lol: There is an equivalent, but I don't know if they have a specific name. I'm with Pip, they just sound dirty all around. I suppose it's no worse than a one night stand, but then I didn't feel good after the only one of those I've had:frown2: There was a reason the experience was never repeated.

I'm not too versed on going out period. I'm a dinner and movie kind of girl, so I never really made it into the club or party scene. Now I have kids and it is just entirely out. So, in 15 years if you find some cougar at the bar, it's just me having a midlife crisis :D

[teashi]

Not crazy for the name 'Rainbow Latte', but hello in here.

[DanielBenoit]

Omg, in response to Iran's accusation that women "exposing" themselves are causing all the earthquakes. A certain movement has started humorously called "Boobquake" and in response they want to start a National Day of Cleavage. :drool5:

Alright, this is enough to make me give up men entirely. :lol:

http://www.tonic.com/article/boobquake-in-the-name-of-science-jennifer-mccraight-hojatoleslam-kazem-sedighi/

[OrphanPip]

Omg, in response to Iran's accusation that women "exposing" themselves are causing all the earthquakes

Iranian women must be amazingly well endowed.

[teashi]

Ha, funny story. I guess when men don't dress 'modestly' it must mean world peace is imminent.:rolleyes5:

[DanielBenoit]

Iranian women must be amazingly well endowed.

:smilielol5::ihih:

[applepie]

:lol::rofl: And to think I just was talking about cleavage in my blog:D

[OrphanPip]

:smilielol5::ihih:

If I wanted to stop women's cleavage from causing earthquakes my first step would be banning jogging and jumping jacks.


:lol::rofl: And to think I just was talking about cleavage in my blog:D

Victoria Secret and Layne Bryant must be responsible for the deaths of millions.

[DanielBenoit]

If I wanted to stop women's cleavage from causing earthquakes my first step would be banning jogging and jumping jacks.

:smilielol5::smilielol5:

I can just picture that :ihih:



Victoria Secret and Layne Bryant must be responsible for the deaths of millions.

Yes!

http://www.marieclaire.com/cm/marieclaire/images/victorias%20secret.jpg

How can you not call that look sinister?

Also, I know that Men's Briefs are in on this too!

http://trendsupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/boxer-briefs.jpg


Btw, can someone tell me if anything can be gayer than the Fruit of the Loom?

http://www.wtfcostumes.com/costumes/fruit-of-the-loom-costumes.jpg

[Satan]

http://www.tonic.com/article/boobquake-in-the-name-of-science-jennifer-mccraight-hojatoleslam-kazem-sedighi/

I think they're onto something. What if there is credible data on the amount of extra-marital sex per square kilometer? Do big girls cause 8+ quakes on the Richter scale? Could this spell the end for conventional warfare as nations start to raise their Sexpeditionary Forces to reduce a rogue state to ashes and dust?

Profound. Very profound indeed!

:frown2:

[OrphanPip]

Jude Law in drag!

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/02/04/rage-jude-law.jpg

For Soundofmusic :p

[Satan]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! :lol:

[Katy North]

As a fairly well endowed woman, this thread is making me worried.

Am I causing earthquakes? Do small children and kittens have trouble keeping their footing when I walk by? Could too many boobquakes result in an inevitable boobageddon? How can I restrain the awesome destructive power of my boobage? Must I wear tight sportsbras for the rest of my life?

Oh my, oh my!! :willy_nilly:

[applepie]

:lol: It should be breast reductions for everyone. They're mandatory to bring an end to boobquake:D


Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

I haven't heard that since leaving a military town:p

[JuniperWoolf]

:lol: It should be breast reductions for everyone. They're mandatory to bring an end to boobquake:D


My friend Steve's sister had to have a boob reduction because they were causing back problems. You should have seen them, they were MASSIVE (and she's not a big girl, she had this average sized body with these GIANT beach balls hanging off). She had to have her bras specially made.

I just noticed how gay litnet is. Check out the poll.

[DanielBenoit]

My friend Steve's sister had to have a boob reduction because they were causing back problems. You should have seen them, they were MASSIVE (and she's not a big girl, she had this average sized body with these GIANT beach balls hanging off). She had to have her bras specially made.

Boob reduction? Too big? MASSIVE? :drool5:



I just noticed how gay litnet is. Check out the poll.

Aww poor Pip is all alone. I would join him if boobs weren't so wonderful :biggrin5:

[Basil]

I just noticed how gay litnet is. Check out the poll.
I'm not going to be checking out any polls, thank you very much.

[soundofmusic]

Haha, I'm not sure I'm much of an expert on gay nightlife either. I don't really drink often so I'm not much of a bar fly.
I wouldn't mind bars if people didn't expect me to either drink or pick up someone. I like going to places, sitting in a corner and people watching.

:lol: There is an equivalent, but I don't know if they have a specific name. I'm with Pip, they just sound dirty all around. I suppose it's no worse than a one night stand, but then I didn't feel good after the only one of those I've had:frown2: There was a reason the experience was never repeated.

I'm not too versed on going out period. I'm a dinner and movie kind of girl, so I never really made it into the club or party scene. Now I have kids and it is just entirely out. So, in 15 years if you find some cougar at the bar, it's just me having a midlife crisis :D
The bath houses do sound gross; but I still think they are just another indication of how inventive the gay population is. That's why we straight people are always pounding on the doors of their theatres, clubs, restaurants, boutiques...
The last time I did dinner and a movie with a guy, I paid for it. Cougardome does have its benefits; you can choose the guys you like instead of being stuck with the group who likes you. You can have anything you want if you can pay for it:lol:

Not crazy for the name 'Rainbow Latte', but hello in here.
Hello and welcome! Feel free to hang your modesty on the coat rack by the door:ihih:

Omg, in response to Iran's accusation that women "exposing" themselves are causing all the earthquakes. A certain movement has started humorously called "Boobquake" and in response they want to start a National Day of Cleavage. :drool5:

Alright, this is enough to make me give up men entirely. :lol:


Damn it, my 40D's just caused a tornado in Florida...


If I wanted to stop women's cleavage from causing earthquakes my first step would be banning jogging and jumping jacks.

Victoria Secret and Layne Bryant must be responsible for the deaths of millions.
I'm surprised women haven't stopped that already; the whiplash is terrible.



:smilielol5::smilielol5:

I can just picture that :ihih:



Yes!



How can you not call that look sinister?

Also, I know that Men's Briefs are in on this too!


Btw, can someone tell me if anything can be gayer than the Fruit of the Loom?



After looking at that Victoria Secret model; I can feel some of my straightness fading....I'm melting.....
There's nothing gay about the way the guys look in those tighty-whities though...

I think they're onto something. What if there is credible data on the amount of extra-marital sex per square kilometer? Do big girls cause 8+ quakes on the Richter scale? Could this spell the end for conventional warfare as nations start to raise their Sexpeditionary Forces to reduce a rogue state to ashes and dust?

Profound. Very profound indeed!

:frown2:
To think we have had the solution to terrorism all this time. Have you noticed that the countries who allow topless bathing and bicycle riding never go to war.

Jude Law in drag!

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/02/04/rage-jude-law.jpg

For Soundofmusic :p
Thank you, Pip. God, he's pretty as a woman too. He resembles the young Vanessa Redgrave a bit!

As a fairly well endowed woman, this thread is making me worried.

Am I causing earthquakes? Do small children and kittens have trouble keeping their footing when I walk by? Could too many boobquakes result in an inevitable boobageddon? How can I restrain the awesome destructive power of my boobage? Must I wear tight sportsbras for the rest of my life?

Oh my, oh my!! :willy_nilly:
Katy, you should do comedy! I go braless around the house and I have noticed more sink holes in my yard lately..

:lol: It should be breast reductions for everyone. They're mandatory to bring an end to boobquake:D


Never, as long as I have big breasts, no one notices the stomach...

My friend Steve's sister had to have a boob reduction because they were causing back problems. You should have seen them, they were MASSIVE (and she's not a big girl, she had this average sized body with these GIANT beach balls hanging off). She had to have her bras specially made.

I just noticed how gay litnet is. Check out the poll.
Too bad there isn't boob transplants; she could have made 3 or 4 flat chested girls happy. There are actually quite a few gays on LitNet; they just haven't found us yet...I think they still think we're talking about coffee...

I'm not going to be checking out any polls, thank you very much.

That's okay, Basil. I'll check out the poles if you keep an eye on the boobage meter.

[DanielBenoit]

I wouldn't mind bars if people didn't expect me to either drink or pick up someone. I like going to places, sitting in a corner and people watching.

Go to Paris :nod:



I'm surprised women haven't stopped that already; the whiplash is terrible.


We should all imprison all hot men and women, they may be causing Global Warming.



There's nothing gay about the way the guys look in those tighty-whities though...


I stopped wearing tighty-whities when I was about ten, they're just too tight on the family jewels.



Thank you, Pip. God, he's pretty as a woman too. He resembles the young Vanessa Redgrave a bit!

How about John Malkovitch?

http://www.lazydork.com/movies/beingjohn.jpg



There are actually quite a few gays on LitNet; they just haven't found us yet...I think they still think we're talking about coffee...

Well maybe all this boob talk is scaring them all away :lol:

[OrphanPip]

Well maybe all this boob talk is scaring them all away :lol:

Haha, I'm surprised by the amount of bisexuals who have found their way into the thread.

I know there are some others on the site, maybe they're shy, or Sound is right and they just don't like coffee. :p

[soundofmusic]

Go to Paris :nod:

I stopped wearing tighty-whities when I was about ten, they're just too tight on the family jewels.

How about John Malkovitch?

http://www.lazydork.com/movies/beingjohn.jpg

Well maybe all this boob talk is scaring them all away :lol:

That's a great idea! I have hoped to get to Paris someday before I'm on a walker.
I never thought about the disadvantages of a mans anatomy. It is odd that they don't make a special area to house the jewels.
That is photoshopped isn't it...or does he really look that convincing in drag...Well, unti you get to the face.
I don't know, it's hard to come out on a forum. I think alot of our folks have been on some of the other threads with the "You're going to hell" crew.

[DanielBenoit]

I never thought about the disadvantages of a mans anatomy. It is odd that they don't make a special area to house the jewels.


Well I think the question is being used to them. After wearing boxers for so many years, trying on tighties felt claustrophobic.


That is photoshopped isn't it...or does he really look that convincing in drag...Well, unti you get to the face.

Well it's from the film Being John Malkovitch, which John Malkovitch himself starred in as himself. This is probably the most surreal scene in the entire movie.

[OrphanPip]

That's a great idea! I have hoped to get to Paris someday before I'm on a walker.
I never thought about the disadvantages of a mans anatomy. It is odd that they don't make a special area to house the jewels.
That is photoshopped isn't it...or does he really look that convincing in drag...Well, unti you get to the face.
I don't know, it's hard to come out on a forum. I think alot of our folks have been on some of the other threads with the "You're going to hell" crew.

Either there are some special effects being used or Malkovitch has had implants. I think that's from the movie Being John Malkovitch lol.


Well I think the question is being used to them. After wearing boxers for so many years, trying on tighties felt claustrophobic.

I tend to go for boxer-briefs, the healthy middle ground, but if I was stuck between a choice between briefs or boxers, I'd go with boxers.

[JuniperWoolf]

Everyone knows that Cillian Murphy looks best in drag:
http://www.observer.com/files/full/101005_article_sarris.jpg

[DanielBenoit]

Turns out Chick-ful-a and KFC all have a gay agenda: Turns out that chicken makes you gay. . .according to the president of Bolivia.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2010/04/bolivia-president.html

[OrphanPip]

Turns out Chick-ful-a and KFC all have a gay agenda: Turns out that chicken makes you gay. . .according to the president of Bolivia.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2010/04/bolivia-president.html

Hahaha, my God, not so worried about the gay thing but I would like to keep my hair, better stop eating chicken.

Also, Cillian Murphy does look good in drag, it's like Crying Game good.

[DanielBenoit]

Turns out that you can't bring your "gay" dogs to an Austrialian resort. Man, this dog must've been wearing rainbow braclets everywhere.

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100425125518reye.nb/topstory.html

(unfunny part of the story: the dog belonged to a blind man.)

[JuniperWoolf]

(unfunny part of the story: the dog belonged to a blind man.)

:lol: What the hell are you talking about? That's hillarious!

[OrphanPip]

Haha, it seems the restaurant staff mistook "guide dog" for "gay dog" and refused the blind man entry, which is just unbelievably stupid.

[soundofmusic]

Well I think the question is being used to them. After wearing boxers for so many years, trying on tighties felt claustrophobic.

Well it's from the film Being John Malkovitch, which John Malkovitch himself starred in as himself. This is probably the most surreal scene in the entire movie.
In the late '60's, alot of young people stopped wearing under clothes all together. I always thought that would be really scarry for the guys.
I was thinking, they do have these glue on breasts that are quite realistic with makeup; I wonder if that was what they did with John...though, I guess they could have superimposed one image on another. Supposedly, that was done in the Julia Roberts film with Richard Gere

Everyone knows that Cillian Murphy looks best in drag:

That is amazing, I looked him up and they say he does do a good deal of female and male roles. Gosh, you'd never get type-cast that way.

Turns out Chick-ful-a and KFC all have a gay agenda: Turns out that chicken makes you gay. . .according to the president of Bolivia.

Where do you find these things, Daniel? They should not let that guy write his own speeches! I'll bet he's having a little middle aged, I need Viagra problems, and blaming it on the chickens.



I tend to go for boxer-briefs, the healthy middle ground, but if I was stuck between a choice between briefs or boxers, I'd go with boxers.
I like those real soft stretch cottons or the silks...a little support; but the comfort of boxers.

Hahaha, my God, not so worried about the gay thing but I would like to keep my hair, better stop eating chicken.

You know, if that were true; then gay guys would have the most hair of anyone...all that testosterone!


Turns out that you can't bring your "gay" dogs to an Austrialian resort. Man, this dog must've been wearing rainbow braclets everywhere.

HaHa, I think I'd get another translator.

[DanielBenoit]

Here's the picture of the 'gay' dog.

http://www.edgeboston.com/display/viewimage_story.php?id=105013

What say ye? Where does he appear on the gaydar? :D

My theory: This dog is totally out-of-the-closet Queen floating in a tub of butter gay. He most obviously made sure that his owner was blind so that he could get away with doggy-humping cute canines whilst guiding his master to work.

[OrphanPip]

http://www.edgeboston.com/display/viewimage_story.php?id=105013


I wouldn't let that thing in a restaurant either, talk about tacky. lol

[Scheherazade]

I wouldn't let that thing in a restaurant either, talk about tacky. lolSo tacky that one can call RSPCA to report this as a case of extreme cruelty against an animal.

[soundofmusic]

Here's the picture of the 'gay' dog.

What say ye? Where does he appear on the gaydar? :D
My theory: This dog is totally out-of-the-closet Queen floating in a tub of butter gay. He most obviously made sure that his owner was blind so that he could get away with doggy-humping cute canines whilst guiding his master to work.
There is not a place on the gaydar for a dog that gay...I think he might pick up more cuties in a mink doggie coat and gold chains...

I wouldn't let that thing in a restaurant either, talk about tacky. lol
I wonder if it was his sexual preference or that huge wet spot on the pavement that put the Thais off.

[DanielBenoit]

I'll try to keep this out of politics, but for humor's sake and for a sense of outrage, here's what a man by the name of Randy Smith (a Gulf War vet) said concerning "Don't Ask, Don't Tell": "I definitely wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual. We took care of that kind of stuff [in the military]."

Haha, sure. Yeah you've gotta watch out for them gays. You could be showering in the locker room and before you know it you drop some soap and as you're bending down to pick it up, they're all over you. Damn gays, that's the only reason why they joined the army in the first place :rolleyes5:

(Yeah I know it's probably not too PC to insult a vet, but I'm not insulting his service to his country, just his delusions.)

[OrphanPip]

You think that's crazy?

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Retired-US-General-Gay-Dutch-Troops-Contributed-to-Srebrenica-Massacre--88450667.html

[DanielBenoit]

You think that's crazy?

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Retired-US-General-Gay-Dutch-Troops-Contributed-to-Srebrenica-Massacre--88450667.html

Yeah I heard about that one. Of course, it makes all the sense in the world; gay soldiers are too busy doing their nails and working out to go out and fight :rolleyes5:

Oh so because the Dutch army became open to homosexuality it became "ill equipped to go to war" ? Wtf? Kinda funny how people like this guy thought the same thing when women were first being allowed to join the army.

[soundofmusic]

I'll try to keep this out of politics, but for humor's sake and for a sense of outrage, here's what a man by the name of Randy Smith (a Gulf War vet) said concerning "Don't Ask, Don't Tell": "I definitely wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual. We took care of that kind of stuff [in the military]."
(Yeah I know it's probably not too PC to insult a vet, but I'm not insulting his service to his country, just his delusions.)

I spend alot of time around Vets at the VA; and there are alot of gay vets that are incredible soldiers...No one, not even the oldsters, cares that they are gay.
I think where alot of the resentment comes from the few fellows, 6 foot frames, parading around in silk dresses, large purses, wigs from the 50s and clip on earrings. It really rubs some of the guys the wrong way when they are peeing blood and can't get financial disability and the gender confused guys are getting 3,000 dollars a month, breast implants, vaginas, and full medical because they want to be women...of course, they are not necessarily gay, and they are not necessarily confused (because they were most likely that way when they joined the service); but to the old timers, a guy in a dress is gay.

[Basil]

What's that old army saying? There are no heterosexuals in foxholes?

[Hurricane]

What's that old army saying? There are no heterosexuals in foxholes?

It's not gay if you're underway/It's only queer at the pier....

[soundofmusic]

What's that old army saying? There are no heterosexuals in foxholes?


It's not gay if you're underway/It's only queer at the pier....

I guess I know how old I am; my daughter had to explain these sayings to me:confused5:

I have always been confused by the prison concepts...the, well, when you're lonely and there aren't any women. Nah, I don't buy it...
Now, if you're missing your hands...:lol:

As for me, I think women are really beautiful naked; but I just don't like the equipment and I don't think being stuck in prison or on an island would change that...

Now men, even if the personality or intellect leave a little to be desired; there is nothing more fascinating than the whole hydraulics thing...simply amazing

[OrphanPip]

As for me, I think women are really beautiful naked; but I just don't like the equipment

Haha, me too, I don't know how you live with that thing ;)

[soundofmusic]

Haha, me too, I don't know how you live with that thing ;)

It all just gets worse when you get old:sick: Have you ever heard the term: Two fried eggs hanging on a nail...

Hey, I've got an idea for a forum activity: Trade your equipment weeK:eek2:
I really think the guys equipment is much cooler; but the fake ones they make for girls looks like link sausage...:lol:

[OrphanPip]

Hey, I've got an idea for a forum activity: Trade your equipment weeK:eek2:
I really think the guys equipment is much cooler; but the fake ones they make for girls looks like link sausage...:lol:

They make some for FtMs that actually can pee, I imagine it involves some sort of catheter. I forget what they're called though.

[soundofmusic]

They make some for FtMs that actually can pee, I imagine it involves some sort of catheter. I forget what they're called though.

Ooo, hate catheters. What sacrifices people will do to be beautiful! That's is why I never quite understand why people question that people aren't totally honest when they want to change genders...who would purposely wear 4 inch spike heels. I get so mad nowadays, I'll see these cute little croc-print (fake ofcourse) shoes and then see the size of the heel:eek2: I'm clumsy enough without the help of lifts...

[OrphanPip]

Ha, news like this brightens my day, what a raging ****ing hypocrite.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/george-rekers-anti-gay-ac_n_565142.html

[applepie]

It's not gay if you're underway/It's only queer at the pier....

:lol: That's the Navy ;)

[soundofmusic]

Ha, news like this brightens my day, what a raging ****ing hypocrite.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/george-rekers-anti-gay-ac_n_565142.html

How blind do people have to be to have not noticed that he was gay even before the escort...It was like looking at RuPaul before he wore dresses...

[Scheherazade]

Ha, news like this brightens my day, what a raging ****ing hypocrite.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/george-rekers-anti-gay-ac_n_565142.htmlI don't think we should be passing judgements without truly understanding his intentions as he is yet another misunderstood soul.

I am sure he was simply trying to save them one gay man at a time.

[DanielBenoit]

I don't think we should be passing judgements without truly understanding his intentions as he is yet another misunderstood soul.

I am sure he was simply trying to save them one gay man at a time.

Say wah?

On the other hand, it is almost a fact brought about by induction that a great number of anti-gay ministers and politicians are in fact closeted gays. They seem ridiculously endless; Troy King, Jim West, Richard Curtis, Bruce Barclay, Roy Ashburn, Ed Schrock, Robert Allen, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley and of course my favorite; Larry Craig.

Btw, watch this video from around ten years ago and tell me that this guy is not clearly gay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Vs5570pKw

[OrphanPip]

Gah, Rekers is a disgusting anti-gay activist, I think it's hilarious that the Family Research Council now says it had absolutely nothing to do with him, despite him being a founding board member.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAiIXb9Aql0

The contract he signed with the escort required daily massages, totally not gay.

[soundofmusic]

Gah, Rekers is a disgusting anti-gay activist, I think it's hilarious that the Family Research Council now says it had absolutely nothing to do with him, despite him being a founding board member.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAiIXb9Aql0

The contract he signed with the escort required daily massages, totally not gay.

Why hasn't someone told me I could get someone who looked like Lucien to carry "my bags", spend 8 hours a day with me and give me a massage at the end of the day for $75...a person can barely get a chair massage for that!
I am definitely going to start looking through the gay papers...
Maybe I'll even become gay...that number 1 on our gaydar is looking very alone...
Oh, I forgot, I still don't like girl equipment:ihih:

[OrphanPip]

Tomorrow will mark the 41st anniversary of the Stonewall riots, most cities hold their gay pride parades around this time each year. So, I guess I'm bumping this to celebrate how far we've come from 1969, and in many places how far we still have to go.

[soundofmusic]

:iagree::hurray::hurray::grouphug:Are they doing a gay pride march in your city, Pip? I don't think I've seen one here for a while.

[OrphanPip]

Pride festival in Montreal is in August. I think it's because Quebec's national holiday falls on June 24th, so it's a bad time of year to hold it.

[DanielBenoit]

I may check out the events going on today, though I doubt there's going to be anything big going on in my mid-eastern city which is not exactly gay pride central. I think I'll celebrate with a few episodes of Queer as Folk. Justin is such a cutie!!!!!!!!

[OrphanPip]

Justin was always my favorite too, but I haven't watched QaF since high school.

[soundofmusic]

Gosh, all this time I never watched Queer as Folk because I thought it was like some English Upstairs Downstairs or something:rolleyes::confused:

[DanielBenoit]

It's a very addicting show. Campy, yes, but what show can call itself gay and not be a little bit campy? It's a very stylistic and fun show which tackles some very provocative issues concerning the LGBT community (such as Michael's fear of letting any of his colleages on that he is gay in fear of being fired.)

And I must say, even though Brian is a total narcissist, he has the sexiest voice I have ever heard.

Btw, I looove the opening theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgDWd_uJV5g

So gay, lol.

[OrphanPip]

A lot of people thought it was too stereotypical in its portrayal of gay men. Also, in its last 2 seasons it got pretty damn political lol.

I liked it, I remember it used to be on at 11 on Mondays, I'd watched it every week, totally not an appropriate show for a 14 year old with all the drugs and sex. Brian was also a major *** early on lol.

[soundofmusic]

It's a very addicting show. Campy, yes, but what show can call itself gay and not be a little bit campy? It's a very stylistic and fun show which tackles some very provocative issues concerning the LGBT community (such as Michael's fear of letting any of his colleages on that he is gay in fear of being fired.)

And I must say, even though Brian is a total narcissist, he has the sexiest voice I have ever heard.

Btw, I looove the opening theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgDWd_uJV5g

So gay, lol.

Well, I certainly liked looking at all those hot bods...didn't quite get the names straight...is the guy whore Brian...kind of sexy; but such an a**


A lot of people thought it was too stereotypical in its portrayal of gay men. Also, in its last 2 seasons it got pretty damn political lol.

I liked it, I remember it used to be on at 11 on Mondays, I'd watched it every week, totally not an appropriate show for a 14 year old with all the drugs and sex. Brian was also a major *** early on lol.

I guess I want to think that gay people have a chance to live "happily ever after" too; this show makes it seem like if you aren't one of the "beautiful people" you go home alone every night or get used up...
That is what sometimes interests me about gay entertainment is that it exposes the worst side of the sterotypes; it causes that much more prejudice in the straight world.

[OrphanPip]

Well, I certainly liked looking at all those hot bods...didn't quite get the names straight...is the guy whore Brian...kind of sexy; but such an a**

Ya, that's Brian.




I guess I want to think that gay people have a chance to live "happily ever after" too; this show makes it seem like if you aren't one of the "beautiful people" you go home alone every night or get used up...
That is what sometimes interests me about gay entertainment is that it exposes the worst side of the sterotypes; it causes that much more prejudice in the straight world.

It's my impression that most gay media swings between two polls, the extravagant and over the top, like the opening of QAF, or the excessively sanitized and heteronormative, like some gay character on an ABC Family show or Will and Grace. (Ignoring coming out, and first time love stories which are also popular subgenres of gay cinema and literature) The reality is that most gay people probably live lives somewhere between those two polls.

Although, I think QAF changes its tune later on, part of what the show goes for is that tension created by the contradictions between what the characters say they believe and how they act. For the most part I think it's just Sex and the City for gays, well at least more for gays than Sex and the City already is.

Edit: Can't remember where it's from, but some show once said that Sex and the City is basically women acting like gay men anyway.

[soundofmusic]

Ya, that's Brian.




It's my impression that most gay media swings between two polls, the extravagant and over the top, like the opening of QAF, or the excessively sanitized and heteronormative, like some gay character on an ABC Family show or Will and Grace. (Ignoring coming out, and first time love stories which are also popular subgenres of gay cinema and literature) The reality is that most gay people probably live lives somewhere between those two polls.

Although, I think QAF changes its tune later on, part of what the show goes for is that tension created by the contradictions between what the characters say they believe and how they act. For the most part I think it's just Sex and the City for gays, well at least more for gays than Sex and the City already is.

Edit: Can't remember where it's from, but some show once said that Sex and the City is basically women acting like gay men anyway.


That's a very good point, Pip. I must admit, I find myself too fascinated by Brian to really get all that's going on with the more normal, moral characters in OAF. It is like with Sex and the City; the few times I've watched it I find myself listening to SJP and watching Kim Catrell bounce men in bed...I don't know if I ever came away knowing what one episode is about.

When I think about it, I recall going to the theatre a few times when the plays involved a couple and serious subjects like aids and loss or the story of Philadelphia; but really, the time the fellows all stripped down and waved their bottoms on stage made more of an impression:rolleyes:

[OrphanPip]

Really what TV show out there is a faithful representation of real life people. If TV were an honest portrayal of real lives, it would be incredibly tedious. Shows like QaF and SatC satisfy our voyeuristic obsession with lives lived outside of "normal" social conventions. Although, even with it's stereotypical portrayals, QaF remains the first show to depict homosexual sex on American TV, and that makes it somewhat of a landmark. Interestingly enough, ratings suggested that the show was watched predominantly by heterosexual women, it even had the same demographic audience as Sex and the City.

Gays are more visible on TV than they ever have been before, but they're toned down and cleaned up. I think I prefer the over the top, self-deprecating humour of a show like QAF to the too sanitary castrated image of the gay community that emerges occasionally on mainstream television. It's almost like the sexual revolution has ground to a halt, and much like many self-described feminist, we're backpedaling to satisfy our critics; given up on the goal to live freely and just settling for living "free enough" for the normals to tolerate.

[soundofmusic]

I don't think I ever thought much about the gay world when I was younger, even though we always had the rumors of David Bowie and Mick Jagger and David was always doing the glam thing...I think most of us thought it was just another experience they were going for rather than any indication of sexual preference.

Years later, when Freddie Mercury began basing his videos on old ballets, I was particularly impressed with the Faun one, I became fascinated by the gay world. I think, the life that heterosexual women see gay men living (or what we assume they are living) seems very glamorous: romance for the sake of it without the fear of pregnancy, a never ending party, prestigious jobs where one can travel without worrying about being away from the family...that was what I saw when I looked through the kaleidoscope that television and rock stars show us...
Of course, the aids epidemic quelched the vision a bit. I also found it interesting that the gay life for women does not seem as appealing to heterosexual society; of course, it always seems that the great beauties in that world eventually wind up with a man.

[papayahed]

Years later, when Freddie Mercury began basing his videos on old ballets, I was particularly impressed with the Faun one, I became fascinated by the gay world. I think, the life that heterosexual women see gay men living (or what we assume they are living) seems very glamorous: romance for the sake of it without the fear of pregnancy, a never ending party, prestigious jobs where one can travel without worrying about being away from the family...that was what I saw when I looked through the kaleidoscope that television and rock stars show us...


I've never really thought of it a glamorous but more so a breath of fresh air. When a friend of mine first decided to come out he used to drag me to the gay bars and events. I have to say I love me some gay bars, it's full of guys not looking at my boobs and not trying to take me home. So much fun to just go and hang out.

[soundofmusic]

I've never really thought of it a glamorous but more so a breath of fresh air. When a friend of mine first decided to come out he used to drag me to the gay bars and events. I have to say I love me some gay bars, it's full of guys not looking at my boobs and not trying to take me home. So much fun to just go and hang out.

Yes, it's nice not to feel like you're on display in the fresh cut meat counter...and sometimes, I feel like I have a big "For Sale" sign on my rump roast...
The last time I was at a gay theatre, the atomosphere had changed though; the straights were sort of ignored, like they were there to observe; but not interact...I missed the old comfortable feeling of Mi Casa, Su Casa

[Taliesin]

I've never really thought of it a glamorous but more so a breath of fresh air. When a friend of mine first decided to come out he used to drag me to the gay bars and events. I have to say I love me some gay bars, it's full of guys not looking at my boobs and not trying to take me home. So much fun to just go and hang out.



It seems that gay bars/parties do tend to attract heterosexual women, who tend to attract heterosexual men - I have heard of instances where a girl in a gay bar felt insulted because the guy she tried to flirt with wasn't interested.

Don't get me wrong, I think straight people in gay bars/parties are rather nice, it's just that in that case there's the danger of seeing someone you know there and making untimely conclusions.



Oh, and for the test


You are 30% Homosexual

You're the Sensitive Guy: No one ever said you were gay, but they weren't blow away by you straightness either. Your the local guy who cares, who's not all in it for the play. You actually see women as people. Good for you.


Apparently, being queer is less about having preference for your own gender and more about being camp and flamboyant.

[papayahed]

It seems that gay bars/parties do tend to attract heterosexual women, who tend to attract heterosexual men - I have heard of instances where a girl in a gay bar felt insulted because the guy she tried to flirt with wasn't interested.


:crazy::rolleyes:



Don't get me wrong, I think straight people in gay bars/parties are rather nice, it's just that in that case there's the danger of seeing someone you know there and making untimely conclusions.


That's true, on one occasion I was with my friend I ran into my cousin (out and proud) and for a short time there was a bit of a rumor going around the family that I was perhaps a lesbian. :rolleyes: Can't a girl just learn how to line dance at a gay bar and not be talked about???:smilewinkgrin:

[OrphanPip]

We have one rather large mixed bar that has mixed theme nights for bi and straight crowds, it's a trendy sorta thing that I wouldn't normally touch with a ten foot poll.

The more strictly cruising bars also tend to refuse entry to women, even lesbians.

I don't think I've seen many straight women hanging out at any of the bear/jeans/leather bars with the 40 year old men playing pool. Straight women in gay bars seems to be a dance club thing, not sure how common it is at the big dyke bar in Montreal.

Also, my morphine from the hospital is wearing off and I think I'm gonna go down some codeine and pass the night in drowsy stupor.

[papayahed]

Also, my morphine from the hospital is wearing off and I think I'm gonna go down some codeine and pass the night in drowsy stupor.


Hey, glad to see your back!

[billl]

Yeah, Pip seems to be typing just fine!

[soundofmusic]

We have one rather large mixed bar that has mixed theme nights for bi and straight crowds, it's a trendy sorta thing that I wouldn't normally touch with a ten foot poll.

The more strictly cruising bars also tend to refuse entry to women, even lesbians.

Also, my morphine from the hospital is wearing off and I think I'm gonna go down some codeine and pass the night in drowsy stupor.

Why do the cruising bars refuse entry to women, is it a privacy issue for the guys who may be high profile or in the closet.
I really liked morphine IV; but the few times I was exposed to it po, it really gave me a headache.



Hey, glad to see your back!

Okay, where are all the pics of Pips back....I miss out on everything:smilewinkgrin:

[DanielBenoit]

Why do the cruising bars refuse entry to women, is it a privacy issue for the guys who may be high profile or in the closet.
I really liked morphine IV; but the few times I was exposed to it po, it really gave me a headache.

Nah, it's probably more of a "boys-only" thing ;)

[soundofmusic]

Nah, it's probably more of a "boys-only" thing ;)

It's funny, a person is always driven to get into a place where they are barred...you know what always drives me crazy, when they have those individual toilet stalls for men at the cinema or theatre; there's always a line at the womens and the mens is always empty...and I say to myself, why can't I just go in there...

[mikemaster70]

Howdy! : ) I've kind of seen this thread in the past but never really decided to post until now. I was just wondering if anyone had any good gay/lesbian/bi movies they've seen that were good? I just watched Lilies and I thought it was really good. Any thoughts or recommendations?

[OrphanPip]

Howdy! : ) I've kind of seen this thread in the past but never really decided to post until now. I was just wondering if anyone had any good gay/lesbian/bi movies they've seen that were good? I just watched Lilies and I thought it was really good. Any thoughts or recommendations?

I haven't seen Lilies in years, I remember it being really interesting.

There are loads of gay movies made every year that are mostly crap haha.

There are two British coming of age ones that are kinda staples, Get Real and Beautiful Thing. Edge of Seventeen is quite a popular coming of age comedy, but I'm not a huge fan.

If you don't mind subtitles, I liked J'ai tue ma mere (Xavier Dolan) and Just un question d'amour (A French made for TV movie). The first one is about a gay teens adversarial relationship with his mother, and the second about a guy in his early 20s and his strained relationship with his family and also involves a pretty standard love story.

The above movies are all pretty light entertainment.

Gregg Araki's, Totally F*cked Up, from the New Queer Cinema genre of the 80s is interesting if a bit rough around the edges. Follows the lives and troubles of a group of LGBT teens for a bit. A more recent Araki film, Mysterious Skin, dealt with the aftermath of child molestation, but one of the protagonist is gay.

Transamerica was a pretty good movie about trans gender issues.

Edit: I admit a lack of exposure to lesbian film, the only one I can think of is But I'm a Cheerleader. There's a new one about a lesbian couple out in theaters now.

[mikemaster70]

I haven't seen Lilies in years, I remember it being really interesting.

There are loads of gay movies made every year that are mostly crap haha.

There are two British coming of age ones that are kinda staples, Get Real and Beautiful Thing. Edge of Seventeen is quite a popular coming of age comedy, but I'm not a huge fan.

If you don't mind subtitles, I liked J'ai tue ma mere (Xavier Dolan) and Just un question d'amour (A French made for TV movie). The first one is about a gay teens adversarial relationship with his mother, and the second about a guy in his early 20s and his strained relationship with his family and also involves a pretty standard love story.

The above movies are all pretty light entertainment.

Gregg Araki's, Totally F*cked Up, from the New Queer Cinema genre of the 80s is interesting if a bit rough around the edges. Follows the lives and troubles of a group of LGBT teens for a bit. A more recent Araki film, Mysterious Skin, dealt with the aftermath of child molestation, but one of the protagonist is gay.

Transamerica was a pretty good movie about trans gender issues.

Edit: I admit a lack of exposure to lesbian film, the only one I can think of is But I'm a Cheerleader. There's a new one about a lesbian couple out in theaters now.


Funny, I just started watching Get Real last night and I really liked how it blended the comedy with the drama. I've also heard that Mysterious Skins was good from other people, I might have to check that one out. Thanks :D

[OrphanPip]

Funny, I just started watching Get Real last night and I really liked how it blended the comedy with the drama. I've also heard that Mysterious Skins was good from other people, I might have to check that one out. Thanks :D

No problem.

I like Get Real too, it's not a heavy hitting movie, but it's fun.

Feel free to come here and talk about the movies after ;). We have to use this thread for something.

[JuniperWoolf]

I liked But, I'm a Cheerleader!

[OrphanPip]

I liked But, I'm a Cheerleader!

It's OK, it's kinda got that feel of a wacky John Waters comedy, without all the poo eating.

[JuniperWoolf]

It's OK, it's kinda got that feel of a wacky John Waters comedy, without all the poo eating.

Haha, that's kind of what I like about it. That part where they're trying to teach them how to have heterosexual sex just kills me, they've got that little leaf over where their genitals would be on the leotard.

[DanielBenoit]

I am quite foreign to gay and lesbian cinema but the Thai film Blissfully Yours directed by Apichatpong Weerasethakul was pretty good. Pip already mentioned some ones I already wanted to mention. Happy Together was another good one, directed by Hong Kong filmmaker Wong Kar-Wai, one of the greatest living directors.

I am almost totally oblivious when it comes to lesbian cinema. The romance between the two leading ladies in David Lynch's masterpiece Mulholland Drive is one of the most passionate I've seen this decade. It may be too Lynch to be considered in the gay/lesbian genre but at the center of it is a beautiful lesbian love story in a dream-like world. That's truly what I think Mulholland Drive is all about, love, jealousy, sex, tenderness and anger all expressed in Lynch's abstract language of dreams.

Ingmar Bergman's Persona is a great film to begin with (an influence of Mulholland Drive in fact) but the lesbian undertones (if one is to interpret it as such (I don't)) are rather subtle. But of course it was made in 1966.

Kinda funny, of all of the movies I've watched, there's only a handful I know of that can be considered within the gay/lesbian genre. Pretty bad for a queer like me. (That said, I can tell you all about classic Hollywood musicals, Singin' in the Rain is simply a fabulous movie.)

[Taliesin]

Well, my experience with queer cinema is rather limited but I rather liked "No Night Is Too Long", being a LGBT thriller/drama lacking the "OMG! I'm gay!" aspect that is commonplace in too many gay movies.

Also, "Venkovský ucitel"/"Country Teacher". While a bit too angsty for my tastes, it was still a good movie and would recommend it.

[DanielBenoit]

Okay so I'm with my sister and her baby and she's just visiting a few of her ex-co-workers at Sonic.

Well to cut straight to the chase, one of them were joking around that Payten (4 month old baby) seems to only smile at girls. Emily says, "she better like boys when she grows up." Then the other girl says, "yeah don't let her be around [lesbian acquaintance] she might try to turn her to her ways."

Now, being a bisexual I'm thinking about how absurd this whole stereotype is that for some reason the LGBT community are in the business of recruiting and converting straight people into homosexuals. You know what that is on the stereotypes part? Projection. That is what prejudice straight people who believe in those stereotypes do or would do to their own kids if they were gay, convert them into good 'normal' straight kids. Emily even somewhat admitted it herself that if Payten when she grew up turned out to be a lesbian that she would be upset and prefer her to be straight.

Ughh it just annoys me to no end. I mean really. How many of you gay, lesbian or bi people out there want to make it your business to go about "converting" kids (much less babies) to your "ways". The ignorance is insulting.

[OrphanPip]

They have it all wrong, we don't deliberately try to convert children, gay just happens to be contagious. Air born, I think.

Edit: On another note, back to the topic of GLBT cinema, I've just seen The Kids are All Right and thought it was a decent movie. Some of the queer activist I knew in college would probably **** all over it for promoting heteronormativity though.

[Scheherazade]

How TV's Gay Characters Shape Up (BBC article) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10724202)

[soundofmusic]

It's OK, it's kinda got that feel of a wacky John Waters comedy, without all the poo eating.

I was thinking of looking up John Waters on google; but I don't know whether I want to be enlightened:confused5: :yikes:


Okay so I'm with my sister and her baby and she's just visiting a few of her ex-co-workers at Sonic.

Well to cut straight to the chase, one of them were joking around that Payten (4 month old baby) seems to only smile at girls. Emily says, "she better like boys when she grows up.". Emily even somewhat admitted it herself that if Payten when she grew up turned out to be a lesbian that she would be upset and prefer her to be straight.


I think sometimes it's just a reflection of a parents insecurities when they make such comments; It doesn't even always have anything to do with the childs later gender choices.
Babies have this incredible knack of letting a parent know how inferior they are...don't ask me how, it's kind of a telepathic thing, or how they stare at you when you put the diaper on wrong or feed the bottle too quickly.
I was always acutely aware that I was an inadequate mother and my husband, this lanky, socially, inadequate dork, who took no interest in my daughter was a terrible father figure...
So, when I went grocery shopping, my daughter went parent shopping...she would smile and put her hand out to huge, muscled, smiling men who seemed to be shopping as a single guy...Sometimes she would call out "DA-Da".
She also put her hand out and smiled at tall, large bosomed, older women with her own coloring and a tidy, flowery dress...not like moms who shopped in high heels and diva clothes...



They have it all wrong, we don't deliberately try to convert children, gay just happens to be contagious. Air born, I think.


I don't know about homosexuality; but there is nothing more tempting to a heterosexual woman (speaking for myself); than the thought of changing some beautiful, educated, gay man into a heterosexual...preferably, my own private heterosexual:icon_bs:

[OrphanPip]

I was thinking of looking up John Waters on google; but I don't know whether I want to be enlightened:confused5: :yikes:


Haha, the poo eating was a reference directly to Pink Flamingos, when Divine eats the dog poo at the end of the film to prove she is the dirtiest actress in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4f7wK67Uw

(It's not the poo eating scene)

Be warned, foul language.

[soundofmusic]

Haha, the poo eating was a reference directly to Pink Flamingos, when Divine eats the dog poo at the end of the film to prove she is the dirtiest actress in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4f7wK67Uw

(It's not the poo eating scene)

Be warned, foul language.

Looks like a blast!

[DanielBenoit]

How TV's Gay Characters Shape Up (BBC article) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10724202)

I agree with the article that most gay characters on television (and in mainstream cinema) are portrayed as either "promiscuous, predatory or figures of fun." And even though I love Queer as Folk (for it was clearly a revolutionary show in being entirely about gay men in a positive light) it somewhat started this trend of portraying gay men as sexually promiscuous (even though the show does for the most part portray its characters holding or trying to hold long-term relationships.)

One thing I would like to see is for television to start portraying gay men as not just within the ranks or stereotypes of the gay community itself. Not every gay man or women is a "queen" or a "bear" or "dyke". Of course these are aspects of the gay community, but not every gay person you see out there is clearly gay.


Concerning Da Poo-Poo

While we're on the subject, there is this hilarious video of a pastor in Uganda who makes the case for keeping homosexuality banned because of some things he found on the internet. There's so many quotable things in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avuOTSB9hUk&feature=related

(warning: there is nothing graphic in here whatsoever, it's just how the pastor describes it which is graphic. Not for kids.)

Clearly he must've gone to some ultra-hardcore website or something because "eating da poo poo" isn't very popular anywhere, gay or straight.

[OrphanPip]

I suppose I shouldn't go into the topic of rimming since children might stumble into this thread. I hear children are attracted to rainbows.

[LMK]

I think it's great that people have come so far as to accept (though not without some issues, I understand) people of the rainbow; look at celebrities like Ellen and Neil Patrick Harris (and in Mr. Harris's case allows him to play a womanizer).

Perhaps I should say that I voted straight, so it might be easy for me to say that people have become tolerant, but that is what I see and I hope that is what is.

[mikemaster70]

Okay so I'm with my sister and her baby and she's just visiting a few of her ex-co-workers at Sonic.

Well to cut straight to the chase, one of them were joking around that Payten (4 month old baby) seems to only smile at girls. Emily says, "she better like boys when she grows up." Then the other girl says, "yeah don't let her be around [lesbian acquaintance] she might try to turn her to her ways."


Well clearly the lesbian acquaintance was not interested in "converting" the child, unless she was offering it a laptop and an ipod.

I love how people always try to make it seem like homosexuals are trying to convert others. Like there's nothing better to do. It's called the LGBT community not the LGBT cult.

[LMK]

That is unfortunate, but ignorance and stupidity are everywhere. With the ignorant I do help inform, with the stupid...well, honestly it depends on my mood, I might ignore and walk away, or I might open my mouth and say something that makes the person's stupidity shine bright for all to see and perhaps embarrassment to ensue and then walk away.

[JuniperWoolf]

:lol: I've been getting a lot of adds for gay male singles dating sites at the top of Gen Chat. I think that it's because the google bot things have detected this thread's existence.

[OrphanPip]

Good news out of the California supreme court yesterday, my well wishes go out to the GLBT community in the US.

[DanielBenoit]

Yes I heard about it last night. In keeping out of current politics we shan't go into it too deep but I am very happy for our gay brothers and sisters out in California :D

[BibliophileTRJ]

I just took a 'How Gay are You?' test, scored a 54% . . . .I'm just not that into musicals lol.


Don't feel bad Daniel....
I just took the test, too.
I'm 110% gay and my score....

You are 28% Homosexual

You're the Sensitive Guy: No one ever said you were gay, but they weren't blow away by you straightness either. Your the local guy who cares, who's not all in it for the play. You actually see women as people. Good for you

[soundofmusic]

I agree with the article that most gay characters on television (and in mainstream cinema) are portrayed as either "promiscuous, predatory or figures of fun." And even though I love Queer as Folk (for it was clearly a revolutionary show in being entirely about gay men in a positive light) it somewhat started this trend of portraying gay men as sexually promiscuous (even though the show does for the most part portray its characters holding or trying to hold long-term relationships.)

One thing I would like to see is for television to start portraying gay men as not just within the ranks or stereotypes of the gay community itself. Not every gay man or women is a "queen" or a "bear" or "dyke". Of course these are aspects of the gay community, but not every gay person you see out there is clearly gay.


Concerning Da Poo-Poo

While we're on the subject, there is this hilarious video of a pastor in Uganda who makes the case for keeping homosexuality banned because of some things he found on the internet. There's so many quotable things in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avuOTSB9hUk&feature=related

(warning: there is nothing graphic in here whatsoever, it's just how the pastor describes it which is graphic. Not for kids.)

Clearly he must've gone to some ultra-hardcore website or something because "eating da poo poo" isn't very popular anywhere, gay or straight.

I was hoping to educate myself and they took off the darn video:toetap05:


I suppose I shouldn't go into the topic of rimming since children might stumble into this thread. I hear children are attracted to rainbows.

Do you think there is a certain age where it is no longer cool to be a queen. I know this fellow who is always wearing itsy bitsy shorts and running like one of Charlies Angels and while he looks good; it doesn't quite seem right now that he is in his 60's,


Don't feel bad Daniel....
I just took the test, too.
I'm 110% gay and my score....

You are 28% Homosexual

You're the Sensitive Guy: No one ever said you were gay, but they weren't blow away by you straightness either. Your the local guy who cares, who's not all in it for the play. You actually see women as people. Good for you

If all gay men looked like your avatar; I'd have a sex change and gender preference change:thumbsup:

[OrphanPip]

Do you think there is a certain age where it is no longer cool to be a queen. I know this fellow who is always wearing itsy bitsy shorts and running like one of Charlies Angels and while he looks good; it doesn't quite seem right now that he is in his 60's,


I wouldn't know. I'm gay, but I'm also a Canadian microbiologist, I'm not sure I've ever been cool.

[DanielBenoit]

I wouldn't know. I'm gay, but I'm also a Canadian microbiologist, I'm not sure I've ever been cool.

With that Bowie avatar you certainly give off a certain "queen-impression" :p

[Scheherazade]

If all gay men looked like your avatar; I'd have a sex change and gender preference change:thumbsup:And who said, "Beauty is only skin deep?"

:p

[OrphanPip]

With that Bowie avatar you certainly give off a certain "queen-impression" :p

My msn display picture is far worse at the moment.

[soundofmusic]

And who said, "Beauty is only skin deep?"

:p

Call me superficial, at my age, when it comes to men, I am only worried about the surface...I spent my first 40 years worrying about the depth of the soul.


My msn display picture is far worse at the moment.

Oh, you know you're cute; but actually, this is one of Bowies less Queen kind of moments and the Labyrinth pics were always personal favorites of mine

[BibliophileTRJ]

And who said, "Beauty is only skin deep?"

:p

My grandfather always used to say "Beauty is only skin deep; but, ugly cuts down to the bone!"

He was a brilliant man. (although, like me, severely undereducated)

[DanielBenoit]

I do not mean to offend any straight NFL fans (is there a such thing as non-straight NFL fans? :P) but my gaydar has been subtly going up (not the only thing going up) while watching the non-game specials on the NFL network. The obsessions with the body and the "beautiful" and "eloquent" moves with all of that muscle and sweat and power. The body building commercials. The immersion of praise of practices of good sportsmanship, such as butt slapping, hugging and just rolling around on the field after being tackled into a pile of big powerful men.

Yeah I'm digging too far into this.

[OrphanPip]

Are you trying to imply that there is something homoerotic about contact sports? What an outlandish proposition.

[DanielBenoit]

Are you trying to imply that there is something homoerotic about contact sports? What an outlandish proposition.

Yes.

http://jameswaites.ilatech.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/us-footy-gay.jpg

EDIT:

If this is not photoshopped, then it is the funniest coincidental picture I have come across in a long time.

http://www.hockeydrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/thats_gay1.jpg

[OrphanPip]

Yes, I wonder why I quit hockey in grade 8.

[soundofmusic]

My grandfather always used to say "Beauty is only skin deep; but, ugly cuts down to the bone!"

He was a brilliant man. (although, like me, severely undereducated)

Your grandfather sounds like a great mind; I find we see things alot more clearly as we age...we realize how important superficiality is. A great mind is a wonderful asset; but it is of little use when the lights are out.


I do not mean to offend any straight NFL fans (is there a such thing as non-straight NFL fans? :P) but my gaydar has been subtly going up (not the only thing going up) while watching the non-game specials on the NFL network. The obsessions with the body and the "beautiful" and "eloquent" moves with all of that muscle and sweat and power. The body building commercials. The immersion of praise of practices of good sportsmanship, such as butt slapping, hugging and just rolling around on the field after being tackled into a pile of big powerful men.

Yeah I'm digging too far into this.

Oh yes, baby, I know nothing of football; but I love watching those sweaty men move around the grass.

[Abras]

I do not mean to offend any straight NFL fans (is there a such thing as non-straight NFL fans? :P) but my gaydar has been subtly going up (not the only thing going up) while watching the non-game specials on the NFL network. The obsessions with the body and the "beautiful" and "eloquent" moves with all of that muscle and sweat and power. The body building commercials. The immersion of praise of practices of good sportsmanship, such as butt slapping, hugging and just rolling around on the field after being tackled into a pile of big powerful men.

Yeah I'm digging too far into this.
And another thing: do their pants really have to be that tight, especially around the butt area? I mean, I get the practical aspect... don't want your opponents grabbing you by your pants and dragging you down -- but honestly? Who goes for the butt? (present company excluded of course...) :D

[DanielBenoit]

And another thing: do their pants really have to be that tight, especially around the butt area? I mean, I get the practical aspect... don't want your opponents grabbing you by your pants and dragging you down -- but honestly? Who goes for the butt? (present company excluded of course...) :D

It can get pretty rough out there. One never knows where ones hands may end up. . . . .

[BibliophileTRJ]

Hmmmm..... Maybe I should take up football....

[papayahed]

And another thing: do their pants really have to be that tight, especially around the butt area?

I vote yes.

[BibliophileTRJ]

Speaking of sports.....

I lost interest in basketball when the shorts went from this:
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/1501713_f496.jpg


To this:
http://www.onemanfastbreak.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/usa_basketball_team.jpg

[OrphanPip]

No big loss, I don't much care for men who are way taller than me anyway.

If there was less blood and violence in UFC, I could probably get into it.

http://0.tqn.com/d/losangeles/1/0/M/3/-/-/UFC76fitch_vs_sanchez3.jpg

Although, to roughly quote Janet from the Rocky Horror Picture Show, "I don't like a man with too many muscles."

[JuniperWoolf]

Yeah, UFC is always really gay looking.

[OrphanPip]

Yeah, UFC is always really gay looking.

It can't be a coincidence that Vancouver and Montreal are the only cities where it's legal.

[Scheherazade]

BBC article:

Why it's so hard to know how many people are gay (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11466650)

[OrphanPip]

The number does seem low, from some very elaborate and more detailed studies I've seen you usually get a number around 3-4%, more if you decide to methodologically include those who have engaged in homosexual behavior rather than self-identify.

The main methodological problem is that national surveys tend not to account for regional differences. By and large, homosexual adults flock to cities with gay enclaves, for the UK that would be London. Thus, gay people are practically non-existent in a lot of rural areas in comparison to the major urban centers.

Also, if you go to the data itself 3% actually refused to answer the question, w/e that means, and 0.5% answered other.

With self-report studies of orientation I've seen, like this one, 1.5-3 is a normal range, but when you ask more detailed questions, like about their sexual behavior you find that homosexual behavior is more common than homosexual identity. Self-reporting is tricky though, you find when you do cross analysis that poor people, working class, ethnic and religious minorities, seem to have no gays while rich upper class white people have plenty of them, seem that cultural pressures are playing a part.

(Note that the figure for men was actually 2% and 1% of women.) It seems like a classic case of under reporting because of sample bias.

[soundofmusic]

I was just having this conversation with a young lady in my neighborhood yesterday...
I've met so many women who frequently have sexual relationships with other women and seem to prefer it; yet consider themselves heterosexual because they live occasionally with a man and have given birth.

[papayahed]

What the heck is going on lately:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gay-teen-suicide-sparks-debate/story?id=11788128

[DanielBenoit]

What the heck is going on lately:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gay-teen-suicide-sparks-debate/story?id=11788128

It's truly unfortunate. There are those who look at this and say stupid things like "See! This is where the homosexual lifestyle leads you!" When in reality, it is where an intolerant society leads you.

[OrphanPip]

I actually think that homophobic bullying tends to hurt straight teens almost as much as gay ones. Anyone being bullied, for whatever reason, is a shame.

[papayahed]

I was looking for a new avatar and stumbled across this pic:


http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/16/article-1279292011727-0A4D1E21000005DC-824835_568x495.jpg

[Taliesin]

I have been told that the peace rainbow flag is not the same thing as the LGBT rainbow flag.
Not that I dislike the picture, though.

[OrphanPip]

Ha ya, the peace flag has 7 colours instead of 6, and luckily it has that big word peace on it. It's an anti-war flag.

http://www.suite101.com/content/serbian-gay-pride-parade-marred-by-violence-a295376

Anyway, I suppose I could mention the gay rights parade in Serbia last month, that was heavily protested by far right groups, but did display the government's commitment to human rights. Although it's never nice to see violent protest, I think the fact that the march was protected by police displays progress. There's still a lot of work to be done on a global level for gay rights, particularly in Africa, the Muslim world, and China.

[DanielBenoit]

There's still a lot of work to be done on a global level for gay rights, particularly in Africa, the Muslim world, and China.

There's also a lot of work to be done for women's rights in those places as well, though this may be less the case with China.

[AuntShecky]

Have you seen the powerful video by a city councilman about the recent tragedies involving young people who were harassed because of their sexual orientation? I'm sorry that I don't have the link handy, but I thought of you, Daniel, and this Rainbow Latte thread when I saw that video late last week.

I believe you could access it on YouTube, or, supposedly there's a link on the Lawrence O'Donnell webpage on msnbc.com, or you could "Google" the name of the project: TheTrevorProject as well as the general movement, "It Gets Better."

Sincerely,
your "straight but not narrow-minded" Auntie

[papayahed]

eh, I tried.

[OrphanPip]

There's also a lot of work to be done for women's rights in those places as well, though this may be less the case with China.

Yes, and it's all interrelated, as the sexual freedoms of women overlap with LGBT rights. LGBT rights can't exist without women's rights, religious freedom, and racial equality.

[AuntShecky]

eh, I tried.

Oh my goodness, papayahed! I'm sorry. That's what I get for not clicking every outside link!

[OrphanPip]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/08/michigan.asst.attorney.general/?hpt=T1

Here's a bizarre story. A Michigan attorney general was fired for using state resources to, and lying during an investigation for, stalk and harass the gay president of the student association at the University of Michigan.

[papayahed]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/08/michigan.asst.attorney.general/?hpt=T1

Here's a bizarre story. A Michigan attorney general was fired for using state resources to, and lying during an investigation for, stalk and harass the gay president of the student association at the University of Michigan.

That guy is freakin' creepy, a normal person wouldn't show up at the students house at 1:30 am. I think the guy is infatuated with the student and doeasn't know what to do with it.

[OrphanPip]

That guy is freakin' creepy, a normal person wouldn't show up at the students house at 1:30 am. I think the guy is infatuated with the student and doeasn't know what to do with it.

The weird part is that his boss didn't seem to care about him stalking and harassing the guy until it turned out he was doing it while he was supposed to be working.

Edit: I like that I somehow managed to omit all the "ing" from the verbs in my original post.

[JuniperWoolf]

Yeah, it looks like this is one more piece of evidence that people who are vehemently opposed to homosexuality are covering up their own orientation. What a creep.

[OrphanPip]

Meh, the UN shows itself to be a useless bloated bureaucracy yet again.

http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/4319/18/11/2010/countries-vote-to-accept-execution-of-gays.aspx

In more positive news, the first government sanctioned gay rights protest occurred in St. Petersburg this past week, of course greeted by a larger counter-protest, but I suppose that's some progress.

[JuniperWoolf]

How do you even justify the decision not to execute people based on sexual orientation? Iran, Nigeria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq (and by the way, why do those countries even get a say if they're already cited as commiting human rights violations?) don't seem like enough votes when put against Europe and North America - someone else must have voted to remove sexual orientation from the list. Why would they do that?

[OrphanPip]

How do you even justify the decision not to execute people based on sexual orientation? Iran, Nigeria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq (and by the way, why do those countries even get a say if they're already cited as commiting human rights violations?) don't seem like enough votes when put against Europe and North America - someone else must have voted to remove sexual orientation from the list. Why would they do that?

The vote was 76 to 70, with like 40 abstentions/absences.

That's essentially a block of former Soviet Republics, Central Africa and the Muslim league. North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia still maintain de facto bans on homosexuality too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_homosexuality_laws.svg

Edit: There has actually been a dangerous trend of increased persecution in central Africa where Christian fundamentalism is growing in influence.

[JuniperWoolf]

Edit: There has actually been a dangerous trend of increased persecution in central Africa where Christian fundamentalism is growing in influence.

That's usually what I say when people get all "why are you always so angry about fundamentalist Christians? They can't have that much influence if they're mocked everywhere you look." Maybe in Canada, but not so everywhere else. I still say that countries who are suspected of/openly commiting human rights violations shouldn't be allowed a vote in things of this magnitude.

[Taliesin]

This song is rather cute. And a bit sad.

Cosmo Jarvis - Gay Pirates (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysG12QCdTA)

(Although I must admit that I have gotten somewhat tired of sad gay stories and suchlike - there's more to being queer than constant doom and tragedy.
The song's still cute, though.)

[Silas Thorne]

I thought this was amusing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYQavD9mSIc

[Taliesin]

This thread is in dire need of revival. And since I don't have anything to say, really, I'll just link to a song.

My Whole Family Thinks I'm Gay -Bo Burnham (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5b59Lg3CJY)

[MANICHAEAN]

Trust my one on the SAS Cook did not stop the revival!
M.

[soundofmusic]

Great song...

[Shalot]

I am too lazy to read through this entire thread to see if this has already been mentioned before so I am just going to go ahead and post and please excuse me if this has already been addressed or if it should go somewhere else.

This is about Judy Garland and Somewhere Over the Rainbow.

So, for a long time I've known about the "Friend of Dorothy" phrase and what that means. And I watched Wizard of Oz every year for about 5 years straight when I was little so I was aware of the song "Somewhere Over the Rainbow." And I knew that the rainbow flag was the pride flag or gay pride flag.

So I was just wondering why the colors in the pride flag were chosen and if it had any direct relation to the Wizard of Oz. Wikipedia just seemed to indicate that no one knows if there is a direct relation or if it's just some happy coincidence. I get that all the colors represent unity and inclusiveness for all and that makes sense - but then there's that whole Wizard of Oz thing.

The stupidest thing on my part is that for a long time I have known all of these facts independently. The facts are;

Judy Garland is a gay icon
Judy Garland was in the Wizard of Oz and sang Somewhere Over the Rainbow
The rainbow flag is the pride flag or the gay pride flag.

Never before had it occurred to me that there could be some relation and never before did I wonder if there was. So, in short, the point of this post is to point out this sad "AHA" moment of mine, and then to ask if anyone knows for sure if there is any direct connection between. I suppose I could do some fact finding on my own and find out when that flag was chosen to be the pride flag and then compare it with when the movie was released but I don't want to because I'm lazy right now.

[OrphanPip]

My understanding is that the flag was based on racial unity flags and peace flags from the 60s.

[Taliesin]

Wow.
There's this friend to whom I had (sorta) come out about thrice two years ago and today he asks me whether I am gay and is surprised when I answer affirmatively.

Just too funny.

[OrphanPip]

Wow.
There's this friend to whom I had (sorta) come out about thrice two years ago and today he asks me whether I am gay and is surprised when I answer affirmatively.

Just too funny.

Sounds like my mother on every second Tuesday.

[OrphanPip]

The New York Times is doing an online piece this week on how American LGBT teenagers perceive their society and their future. They're uploading an audio interview with accompanying photos every day, as well as several submitted personal stories.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/23/us/20110523-coming-out.html

[papayahed]

I have a crush on Ross Matthews:

http://lovenlyrics.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ross.jpg

[OrphanPip]

His voice is a little nasal though lol.

[papayahed]

His voice is a little nasal though lol.

That's true but he's just so nice. (At least on TV)

[Scheherazade]

I have a crush on Ross Matthews: Who is this Ross Matthews?

[OrphanPip]

Who is this Ross Matthews?

He's like a celebrity correspondent for talk shows and entertainment news shows.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PVUJtSbRyM