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Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 12:04 PM
The Long Beauty yacht pushes up the Saint Lawrence River
at eight p.m. and nobody cares if you got on or missed it.
The world's longest running wake just keeps going.

In a shipboard ballroom, the lucky few tend to their good
time. Clucking like a squadron of sub-Saharan bushbirds
leak MFA girls' lips-- girls who tossed their chapbooks
and poetry explicators for lathering in Valentino, Gault-
ier, and Bulgari. Defying you with their eyes, they throw
off a kind of heat that has never burned you before--

but burns you now.

Poetry is dead. Short story writing is dead.

Writers now with nothing to do-- writers with leftover
grant money and new styles hang around the edges of the
yatch with satisfied smiles, their low vibrating eyes
calm, punching through and over thousand-dollar sun-
glasses.

They like it that creative writing is dead. Truth at last ...
They will kiss you, they will ignore you-- you'll know
where you stand. Over on the riverbank, skinny fishermen
decline to wave hello as the ship glides by, its seven-foot
speakers towers blasting sonar across the whole known uni-
verse.

Creative writing is dead

Go ahead and smoke, because this is what happens when all
college writing and writing forums fell down. This is the
wake party that deals the final blow of death that died
40 years ago.

Two 20-year-old girls, refugees from Iowa University's writ-
ing seminars on poetry, girls who look 14. bump into the side
rails losing all feeling for boundaries, devouring each other
in elapsing ether. Guys who were monitors on the best poetry
forums, now out of power, can't quit bossing.

They'll crack your chest and massage your broken heart-- see
if you can keep up with the idea no one reads creative writ-
ing anymore.

Dead-- and it ain't coming back.

You could talk about it like it was a movie, and you still
wouldn't make it halfway to the truth. Poetry is all burnt
up and in the burn you can have a great time knowing it's
over and new rules are in play--

No pity-- that's one of them.

Now, it's all masculine body muscle with money that never
runs out, girls freed from having to enroll in silly $1000
writing classes, young boys freed from seeking advice on
forums.

Now, loosed, all run free with joy never runs out-- vodka
and tequila, clothes, shoes, cigars, burn-through-your-
braingirl looks. Surface peaches, tongues laden with need-
les inside the tip.

Time-- never runs out. No deadlines.

Taste never diminishes. The girls make the taste. Big full
lips. Big full eyes blackened like charcoal blackens a sheet.
Long fingers and long legs. Skirts atop needle heels or
flashing knee-high boots. Comes a waft of suspended young,
deep-maturing that lies just out of reach.

The MasterCard with Delta miles clicks along the glass table-
top. Caplets spool through the vertebrae. The lost poets
finally start to feel comfortable. It's always some equinox
here, with the glisking smoke sticking around and the speak-
er sound that just keeps blowing and everyone has something
in their mouths--

tobacco, chemical concoction, short choppy words, ice.

The girl at the side of a woman Pushcart prize winner has
diamonds in her eyes and pink gum in her mouth. You get to
watch as she tongues-slides her gum into the woman's hand.
She throws it to the deck after giving the slobbered quid
a few chews to sweeten the linger of Havana in her cigar.

Upstairs on the top deck, dancers are mixing glitter with
baby oil on their palms, polishing up their $75 tans so
that their skin will reflect the light that bounces around
the dance floor. They're stepping in and out of sheer gear,
strings and and stained pads.

It's not a tough formula-- mind yourself around the eight-
foot Candy Land platform. Poets like to touch beauty.

Tough.

Nearby a dozen MFA grads are moaning "Oh ....." but mince-
tapping in knee-high D&G boots. A waitress in a black and
orange uniform hoists a bottle of Cristal in the air, fire
spitting from white-hot sparklers in her other hand. She
pushes open the saloon doors with the porthole windows, and
the poetry party that was never necessary before begins to
singe the edges of all you can see--

then slides like a stiletto into your mind where it lurks
a tropical brain freeze.

A National Book Award winner backs into his sleeping cham-
ber a few steps down from the dance floor. His hideaway is
a white-cloud enclosure with a high-perch bed. His walls
are plasma screen and low-flying chandelier, the long dawn
sunlight fighting the curtains.

Time flakes off and falls away like that wall inside you
separating right from wrong. He wears tan slacks a silk
white shirt shirt pleated from shoulder to belt.

Thin lines of gold threads.

A Bryn Mahr grad slips drunk to her knees, lies akimbo.
You step over her. Her last words before passing out--

"Is creative writing .... really .... dead?"

HH

Scheherazade
04-13-2010, 12:33 PM
Creative Wruiting is DeadSo I see...

It will be known as "Creative Writing" from now on!

:p

Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 12:37 PM
Be nice!

I worked on this for three days. I get a response
on the typo.

Typo has been corrected.

I'm 76 years old and a little blurry-eyed
from age and whiskey.

Be nice ...

HH

dizzydoll
04-13-2010, 12:45 PM
It looks busy wherever you are. I enjoyed this piece, I see you have others I will get round to them also. My english is not too good and I have learned two things from you already and will continue to read. But there is one question I would like the answer to, why do writers include alcohol, drinking, and associated in their writing. Is this something that is learned. Or do most of them drink while writing? Just wondering, and learning.

Scheherazade
04-13-2010, 12:50 PM
Typo has been corrected. Typo has been corrected by yours truly so, simply to quote you:
Be nice!

Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 12:56 PM
I am always nice.

I'm Mister Nice.

They call me Mister Nice.

In fact, a lady just today at the produce market
said I seemed like a nice person. She said (her
very words),

"You seem like a nice person."

I said she did too.

That was it. I walked away pushing my little
grocery basket; she, in her 2010 Volvo.

But is creative wriwting dead?

HH

Scheherazade
04-13-2010, 01:01 PM
But is creative wriwting dead?I sure do hope so.

I, for one, would choose "creative writing" over "creative wriwting" any given day.

Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 01:05 PM
Dear dizzydoll.

I like it when girls are called 'doll.'

But that's just the sign of my age.

"Hi-ya doll ..."

"Hi, you great big gorgeous doll."

"Hey doll, new in town?"

Now calling someone doll is likely to put
you up before the PC board at the local
college.

I always like 'sweet.'

or

'Honey.'

Older ladies were 'dear.'

Of course, all this reveals my life-long
love for women. I have three daughters,
seven grand-daughters and one great-great.

it's great.

But what about my idea creative writing is
dead?

Maybe the essay is dead, being a member of
the set itself.

Drinking while writing. I like to say writing
while drinking. Many writers are haunted by
demons-- they drink.

Nice talking to you

HH

dizzydoll
04-13-2010, 02:33 PM
'Doll' keeps me young, dizzy ensures people dont expect too much.. both work perfectly together.

I'm a flower child which should tell you something about me age, and proud of it too. Still, at this late hour I have decided to read more than I did before.. in fact I never did before with good reason too... I had too much to do.


But what about my idea creative writing is
dead?

Sadly I think you are correct, the next phase will be text english [SMS cell phone english].. people are pushed for time these days, we've just entered the 'information age' as well, which means there's much competition to be heard. And so this I see as the future english.

On the other hand, I am going backwards and starting all over again.... and loving it.

I like your writing so far, but then again I like most things and wouldnt really [oops, me bad using 'really'] know good writing from bad.

Got to go now to watch the criminals on Crime and Investigation but I will be sure to read more tomorrow

Over and out

dizzydoll

Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Dear lady with 18,000 posts,

LOL

Dear flower child girl/woman,

Is that you running away?

HH

Revolte
04-13-2010, 08:20 PM
Drinking while writing. I like to say writing
while drinking. Many writers are haunted by
demons-- they drink.


It seems we do agree on something after all. Though I wish that wasn't the case. My best friends mom is a writer and she writes while she drinks, as you put it. She writes almost all hours of the day, and with it come the booze.

I've heard the death argument more then I ever would have wished, about every form of art. However, I don't think any art can really die. It's one thing if your writing just to write and are, more or less, copy and pasting pieces of what you've read. But another story when you write with your own thought. When all is said and done it really comes down to what an individual considers to be creative. If it comes down to something being completely unique then yes, it's been dead long before any of us came to this earth, and with so many people published and underground writing it can only stay dead.

Hayseed Huck
04-13-2010, 09:04 PM
Dear pal,

Now we have a problem.

I didn't write to say 'creative writing is dead.'

That was only the vehicle.

I wrote to write. I could have easily written
to say, 'creative writing is alive and well.'

I have nothing to say about creative writing being
dead. That's not the point here. The idea is the
skill in the writing.

Topics are irrelevant.

It's like debate.

Choose a side and fake it.

Think, how my piece of writing could be about
anything-- people on a yatch sailing down a river.

Maybe it's about celebrating a girl's birthday, or
her first solo flight around the world.

We've got to learn how to read-- that the topic in
an essay isn't the point of the essay. The point is
to demonstrate a certain skill in writng.

I don't know if poetry is dead or not and don't
care. I read an essay whose ostensive lean was the
care of barn rats. It wasn't about barn rats, though.
It could have been about baby eagles with only minor
word changes.

Subject matter is nothing.

I know I have come here with 'odd' ideas-- but ones
collected by four years in the sanitation department
for the city of Little Rock. But that has nothing to
do with anythings.

If a writer post something tomorrow about life in the
French Foreign Legion remember, it's not about that.

It's about writing and the skills displayed.

As a writer, I am not advocating a position. I don't
want the readetr to go out and save the whales, feed
the homeless-- or as Yeats wrote, "Climb upon a wagon-
ette and scream."

Regards, and be nice,
HH

dizzydoll
04-14-2010, 03:24 AM
Dear flower child girl/woman,

Is that you running away?

HH

No way, I am much too shy to display like that. Its a dream, I wish I'd had the courage. Some of the pictures and avatar comes from Woodstock... wish I had been there too.


Dear lady with 18,000 posts,

LOL

I'm running out of time. LOL,

Just joking,

Still..... there is no time like the present. :nod:

PrinceMyshkin
04-16-2010, 12:19 PM
"creative writing" (however you choose to spell it) may be dead, but grandiose pronunciamentos live on, apparently forever!

lallison
04-17-2010, 11:20 PM
The irony here is that while proclaiming creative writing dead, you show that it is not. Nicely done.

My question is, what makes this an essay and not a poem, other than the fact that you say it's an essay. Its form is not altogether different than a great deal of contemporary poetry. EX:http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=171431

Hayseed Huck
04-20-2010, 12:21 PM
Melville ought be alive today.

'Ought be' is in the subjective voice.

No one uses the SV today.

But he ought be alive.

You see, on wash day aboard the Pequod, Melville
says something about indiscriminate yeast.

Poetry-prose today is an indiscriminate yeast.

A lady in Duluth, Minnesota, this morning, put
prose and poetry into a blender and turned it on.

I, for one, have a formula for telling the differ-
ence.

I dare not reveal it, tho.

HH

xtianfriborg13
11-21-2012, 08:31 PM
Great read! I enjoyed it so much!

cacian
11-22-2012, 04:17 PM
I am not so sure about creative writing dying as much as handwriting going out of fashion as quick as one can blink.