It's So Over-rated. . . .

[The Comedian]

We all enjoy a good rant or quip about what's over rated. Shall we here indulge?

Over-rated: Nietzsche & Pink Floyd -- like acne, body piercings, and mac & cheese, Nietzsche and Pink Floyd seemed so important when I was angst-y teen and, later, a cliche-ish intellectual. But, upon further review, they just seem so overrated.

[BienvenuJDC]

I have NEVER cared for or watched these...but it seems that MOST people think they are great...

Reality Shows are OVER-RATED...

[The Comedian]

I have NEVER cared for or watched these...but it seems that MOST people think they are great...

Reality Shows are OVER-RATED...

Oh man -- I was so hooked on Survivor I: we even had a dinner party where we ate rice from coconut bowls for the season finality. But after that, meh. I agree, overrated.

[ClaesGefvenberg]

Shall we here indulge?Indeed we shall: Cooking Shows are OVER-RATED...

:rant:
Rant coming up: They seem to have spread over all channels to such an extent that changing channels no longer help, and I am so fed up with them that if I see just one more I may (insert proper smilie here). Come up with something new, someone... Please. If I want cooking I can go to the kitchen, for crying out loud.

/Claes

[papayahed]

I was all about the first few seasons of the Real World where they actually did something other then go to the bar.

[Lulim]

TV in general is overrated, in my opinion. After living for five months without one, I surprised myself last Christmas and bought one. But I turn it on only twice a week.

[JCamilo]

The word overated is overated.

[Katy North]

While I like movies, I feel that the act of going to the movies is overrated. There is little point to it since the darn thing is just going to come out on DVD later, plus it's always so expensive. My hubby loves it but I really don't get it.

[The Comedian]

The word overated is overated.

You underrate the word overrated, dear sir or madam. ;)

[Nightshade]

Life is overrated.. meh feel the angst :rolleyes:
Kids though, kids are definatley overated. They are NOT cute they are NOT adorable when they throw temertantrums decide to bite me, talk back or hit (or slap) me, us mybrand new top as a tissue.... MISSwe don't like you et out! orOh go noot you again..
lets see wha else oh yes folowing me intoshops and makin supid comments about everything I buy tillthe shopkeeper doesnt even ralise I am thre becusehe can't see me... stupid tall teenagers... an worst of all damaging an ripping my new books and break bok spines so all the pages just fallout!

[JuniperWoolf]

YES Nietzsche is totally overrated. Ugh.

Some animals are overrated too. Monkeys, dolphins, elephants, bleh! Who needs 'em?

A Clockwork Orange? Overrated!

[Nietzsche]

I'm so offended haha.

I think Kant is overrated by far. I think Schopenhauer would appeal to angsty teenagers more than Nietzsche. Nietzsche & Schopenhauer influenced Freuds theories, especially Schopenhauer... Freud was also overrated.

Nietzsche probably is overrated in a way... Too many people have been inspired by his philosophy, and the inspirations at times are at odds with each other. Too many people have "rated him" and been influenced by his books when they were not meant to be that massively read.. He referred to his books as for the few. I think he'd rather be underrated. You know too many people are reading him and misinterpreting him when Zionists and Nazis both lay claim to him as an inspiration.

[JuniperWoolf]

Guess what? Edgar Allan Poe? Yeah. Overrated.

[keilj]

I have NEVER cared for or watched these...but it seems that MOST people think they are great...

Reality Shows are OVER-RATED...

Jersey Shore is the sh*t - it is genius stuff :cheers2:


Eating out is overrated. Most restaurant food is just OK at best - even the more expensive restaurants

I have found one really great mom-and-pop restaurant that really serves delicious food where I live - one :bawling:

[BienvenuJDC]

Name Brands (especially clothing Logos) are overrated...

[DanielBenoit]

We all enjoy a good rant or quip about what's over rated. Shall we here indulge?

Over-rated: Nietzsche & Pink Floyd -- like acne, body piercings, and mac & cheese, Nietzsche and Pink Floyd seemed so important when I was angst-y teen and, later, a cliche-ish intellectual. But, upon further review, they just seem so overrated.

Achhhhhhh! Say it ain't so Joe! It's the first unwise thing I've ever heard Comedian say :p

Overrated: Ayn Rand, Michael Jackson, Betrand Russell, Richard Dawkins, Scarface (1981 film), Avatar, On the Waterfront, James Cagney, Emily Dickenson, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.

[keilj]

colossally overrated - the Sopranos



under, under, under underrated - Miley Cyrus!!!! :cheers2:


(kidding about Miley of course)

[applepie]

Indeed we shall: Cooking Shows are OVER-RATED...

:rant:
Rant coming up: They seem to have spread over all channels to such an extent that changing channels no longer help, and I am so fed up with them that if I see just one more I may (insert proper smilie here). Come up with something new, someone... Please. If I want cooking I can go to the kitchen, for crying out loud.

/Claes

:rofl: I learned to cook off of these shows ;) That said, they are getting a bit out of order.

[JuniperWoolf]

Roses are overrated.

[Virgil]

I'm so offended haha.

I think Kant is overrated by far. I think Schopenhauer would appeal to angsty teenagers more than Nietzsche. Nietzsche & Schopenhauer influenced Freuds theories, especially Schopenhauer... Freud was also overrated.



Freud is completely over rated. In fact Freud is a fraud.

By the way, what a great idea for a thread. Kudos to you for this Comedian! :cheers2:

[skib]

The Godfather. Michael Jackson. Fame. Toyota vehicles. Coors of any sort. Advertising. Agree with Bien on the name brand thing.

[Katy North]

Name Brands (especially clothing Logos) are overrated...

I used to work at a jewelry counter... and I was soooo disillusioned by how many female lives revolve around the word "coach"... :sick:

[BienvenuJDC]

I used to work at a jewelry counter... and I was soooo disillusioned by how many female lives revolve around the word "coach"... :sick:

I am so out of touch...please explain...LOL

[kevinthediltz]

Coors of any sort.

Amen to that.

Coors, MGD, people who play guitar at parties, "Twilight" (Don't worry I won't get into it), support groups, astrology, and Japanese cars (sorry Toyota).

[JuniperWoolf]

people who play guitar at parties

Oh yeah, SOO overrated.

Vampires in general are overrated.

[kevinthediltz]

Oh yeah, SOO overrated.

Vampires in general are overrated.

SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!

Again, amen!

[Taliesin]

Freud is completely over rated. In fact Freud is a fraud.

By the way, what a great idea for a thread. Kudos to you for this Comedian! :cheers2:

QFT

Actually I can't mention anything right now that's overrated - I could, of course, take something like "Twilight" or Coelho, spit on them and scream "Ewww" loudly, since, apparently, everyone does that, but that is sort of pseudo-overratedness. I mean, if practically all the people you know, think that "Twilight" is worth nothing and you know that there is a theoretical base of fangirls/boys somewhere out there, is it really overrated?

Still, there must be something that is clearly overrated by the people I know and generally communicate with, still, nothing comes to my mind right now.

[keilj]

I am so out of touch...please explain...LOL

Coach is a high-end handbag brand name. Some women get weak in the knees just at the sight of them (and other brand names like Prada)

[papayahed]

Coach is a high-end handbag brand name. Some women get weak in the knees just at the sight of them (and other brand names like Prada)

Coach is overated, the bags aren't even that cute. Prada on the other hand...

[The Comedian]

Vampires in general are overrated.

I'll drink to that. Vampires = overrated.

NOTE: "drinking to" something, underrated.

[applepie]

NOTE: "drinking to" something, underrated.

Very :lol:

For me, expensive bottles of wine... so overrated. The $10 ones are normally pretty good and don't leave you broke.

[Haunted]

Coach is overated, the bags aren't even that cute. Prada on the other hand...

...I still love my little Coach!!!

[Katy North]

Coach can be cute, but some women get waaaay to crazy over it... Like buying as many $300 bags as possible, and having delusions of being unique and special because they buy DA BRAND, not the bag.

Personally, I like Fossil bags. I justify myself with the fact that they're well made, decent price for quality, much cuter, and I only buy maybe one bag a year.

Well, okay, maybe I have my brand weakness too... :rolleyes5:

[keilj]

"Near Mint" comics from eBay :banghead:

Oh - and especially since I live in FL - overrated: the right to bear arms in the U.S. :puke:

[BienvenuJDC]

Oh - and especially since I live in FL - overrated: the right to bear arms in the U.S. :puke:

Don't start a political debate here...

:nonod:

[Haunted]

Well, okay, maybe I have my brand weakness too... :rolleyes5:

Honestly I can't live without my Movado.... I retired my Coach but I need to wear my Dana Buchman coat whenever I can, even to the neighborhood grocery store....

[BienvenuJDC]

Talking about fashion....

:rolleyes5: Overrated... :p

[Satan]

Career, romance, Swiss watches, Apple products, Sony laptops and Bose speaker systems.

ThinkPads and Seiko: way underrated.

[Haunted]

Career, romance, Swiss watches, Apple products, Sony laptops and Bose speaker systems.

My Macbook Air and my iPod Touch go anywhere I go, even to my grave!!!

[BienvenuJDC]

Apple products

You mean like Apple pie, apple dumplings, apple fritters, apple pandowdy....

[Satan]

My Macbook Air and my iPod Touch go anywhere I go, even to my grave!!!
Graves are gravely overrated. Put me into a monolith[1] and shove it into deep space.


You mean like Apple pie, apple dumplings, apple fritters, apple pandowdy....
No, the kind that gives you pancreatic cancer[2].






[1]: Arthur C. Clarke
[2]: Steve Jobs

[Haunted]

Graves are gravely overrated. Put me into a monolith[1] and shove it into deep space.

Graves are such lovely places to sleep....

[BienvenuJDC]

Graves are such lovely places to sleep....

To sleep, perchance to dream...aye, there's the rub...

[Satan]

Graves are such lovely places to sleep....

With maggots, no less! Or is it Dracula that you're after? ;)

[NikolaiI]

Doc Martins are over-rated.

[applepie]

Doc Martins are over-rated.

Say it isn't so :svengo: I love my Docs.

[DanielBenoit]

Freud is completely over rated. In fact Freud is a fraud.


Now, now Virgil. Without Freud modern psychology as we know it wouldn't exist. You can disagree with him however you want, but his many ideas and works are vital to the 20th century, just as much as Einstein's, Picasso's or Joyce's are.

You know what's overrated? Chills and thrills, lol.

Among others:

moral lessons in films/novels

voice-overs of a certain character in a film making a speech with a montage of melodramatic scenes (e.g. Sam's speech in the second LOTR film; numerous episodes of Lost).

blondes

happy endings

vampires god damn it!

Obama

criticizing Obama

more to come lol

[Hurricane]

Overrated? Apathy, being miserable for no good reason.

[The Comedian]

Overrated? Apathy, being miserable for no good reason.

Hurricane, Apathy for no reason or for some masochistic psudo-intellectualism is WAY, WAY, WAY over rated. Love it!

[DanielBenoit]

Hurricane, Apathy for no reason or for some masochistic psudo-intellectualism is WAY, WAY, WAY over rated. Love it!

But hey, not all forms of apathy or masochism are psuedo-intellectual, for some it's a psychological obstical.

[Paulclem]

Music generally. The constant variety seems to keep it fresh, but if we didn't have this variety it would all become so much audio wallpaper. Remember when you used to play the same tunes over and over again until the next one came along?

Don't get me wrong - I like a variety of music. It's just that it's overrated.

... and Easter Eggs are too. Now if they were solid, then they might not be so overrated, and I do like a good thick edge, but usually overrated.

... and Easter Fairs - in the UK they are fairly small affairs - mud, overpricing, rubbish gifts, wonky games of skill... overrated.

... and London - crowded, overpriced, too big, too many neighbours, and with Paris such a great city, London - overrated.

I'm on a roll...

[Scheherazade]

... and Easter Eggs are too. Now if they were solid, then they might not be so overrated, and I do like a good thick edge, but usually overrated.Oh, realising that Easter eggs are actually hollow has been one of my biggest disappointments in this country!

All-serious and meaningful posts are overrated on this Forum, I think...

[OrphanPip]

Hollow Easter eggs? I'm used to the big chocolate bunnies being hollow, but not the eggs.

[Scheherazade]

Oh, they have giant Easter eggs here in the UK... If they were solid, they would weight couple of kilograms at least but, alas, they are hollow (just like the bunnies). :-/

[Virgil]

Now, now Virgil. Without Freud modern psychology as we know it wouldn't exist.

No I don't think that's true at all. I think he stunted and set back real psychology at least 50 years. Real psychology today has nothing to do with Freud.

[Scheherazade]

All right... I am gonna come out and say it:

I think Lawrence (DH, not "of Arabia"), Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver) and Woolf (Virginia, not Arhur) are overrated, too.

Send those rotten tomatoes in my general direction... I will be more than happy to consume them in my new persona, anyway.

:D

[MarkBastable]

All right... I am gonna come out and say it:

I think Lawrence (DH, not "of Arabia"), Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver) and Woolf (Virginia, not Arhur) are overrated, too.

Send those rotten tomatoes in my general direction... I will be more than happy to consume them in my new persona, anyway.

:D

I said much the same about DHL on the DHL thread, and the reaction was less than charitable. But I stick by it, and I'd back you up on the other two too.

[The Comedian]

All right... I am gonna come out and say it:

I think Lawrence (DH, not "of Arabia"), Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver) and Woolf (Virginia, not Arhur) are overrated, too.

Send those rotten tomatoes in my general direction... I will be more than happy to consume them in my new persona, anyway.

:D

*tosses a couple rotten tomatoes*

That's just 'cause I thought it sounded fun. I agree with your assessments, though, I can't really say that too much regarding Laurence because I really haven't read that much of him, but Hardy & Woolf, yep. Overrated.

[Virgil]

Shal I say it. Yes, why not: James Joyce is over rated. :D

[BienvenuJDC]

Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver)

Stan Laurel
http://nuttynutnewsnetwork.com/pics/stanlaurel1.jpg

Oliver Hardy
http://chronocity.hostzi.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/oliver-hardy-el-gordo.jpg

[Scheherazade]

What's your point, Bien? I think we all know what they looked like...

Oh, being a Moderator CANNOT be overrated!

:smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin:

[BienvenuJDC]

What's your point, Bien? I think we all know what they looked like...

Oh, being a Moderator CANNOT be overrated!

:smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin: :smilewinkgrin:

My point is: there is NO Stan Hardy... ;)

[DanielBenoit]

No I don't think that's true at all. I think he stunted and set back real psychology at least 50 years. Real psychology today has nothing to do with Freud.

Disagreement is overrated. All shall submit to my opinion, mwahahahaha!

:biggrinjester:


;)

[Scheherazade]

Disagreement is overrated. I actually think "agreement" is overrated.

Does anyone agree with me?

:goof:

[BienvenuJDC]

I actually think "agreement" is overrated.

Does anyone agree with me?

:goof:

I don't know how to answer that one...

:iagree::nonod:

[Paulclem]

I actually think "agreement" is overrated.

Does anyone agree with me?

:goof:

We can agree to disagree, though I would say that is overrated.

[LitNetIsGreat]

No I don't think that's true at all. I think he stunted and set back real psychology at least 50 years. Real psychology today has nothing to do with Freud.

Oh no not attacking Mr Freud again are we Virgil? Surely after arguing for a couple of weeks over in the Turn of the Screw thread the relevance of Freud came alive whether you like him or not? Hmmm, maybe not, a little too stubborn I think...


All right... I am gonna come out and say it:

I think Lawrence (DH, not "of Arabia"), Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver) and Woolf (Virginia, not Arhur) are overrated, too.

Send those rotten tomatoes in my general direction... I will be more than happy to consume them in my new persona, anyway.

:nonod: No, no. Certainly not Woolf, definitely not Hardy. :nonod:

Neely is not amused...:nonod:

Overrated??? TV, work, cars :auto:, technology, Gillette razors, popular music, breakfast, "trendy" coffee shops like Starbucks, fizzy pop, Andrex toilet roll, expensive weddings, mobile phones (see other thread), mountain bikes (90% of bikes sold are mountain bikes, the vast majority of these never even go off road - buy a road bike!), buying your own house/mortgages, insurance, burgers and hotdogs, zoos, parties, mushrooms, :idea:, hot roast pork sandwiches, teenagers, religion, ham sandwiches, boxer shorts...

[Virgil]

Oh no not attacking Mr Freud again are we Virgil? Surely after arguing for a couple of weeks over in the Turn of the Screw thread the relevance of Freud came alive whether you like him or not? Hmmm, maybe not, a little too stubborn I think...



:lol: Well, certainly I'm stubborn. You can believe in the Oedipal complex, the ego, the superego, id, dream interpretations, word associations, and you can believe in the tooth fairy. I believe the tooth fairy is more real than that bunch of crap. Show me a map of the brain and point to the superego.

[JuniperWoolf]

MONEY is so redonkulously overrated.

[BienvenuJDC]

MONEY is so redonkulously overrated.

True...

...and Feminism is also overrated...

[JuniperWoolf]

Hmm? So's religion.

[Katy North]

Shal I say it. Yes, why not: James Joyce is over rated. :D

Say it ain't sooooo!!! :bawling:

[DanielBenoit]

I actually think "agreement" is overrated.

Does anyone agree with me?

:goof:

:lol::lol::lol:

I most certainly do not!



:nonod: No, no. Certainly not Woolf, definitely not Hardy. :nonod:


Yeah! What did Hardy ever do to you Schehz? :p

Very few poets have as consistently impressed me as Hardy.


Hmm? So's religion.

Overrated by believers, underrated by atheists ;)

[Remarkable]

Franz Kafka is overrated. I really don't find any enlightenment in all the angst and darkness he transmits and he is so unlike many other, actually hopeful, existentialists.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Show me a map of the brain and point to the superego.

What? We are dealing with concepts, ideas, possible aspects of human nature not physical parts of the brain. You can't surely say that psychological readings didn't bring anything to the Turn of the Screw discussion, nothing, zero? :nonod:

More things that are over-rated: fancy meals in restaurants, jewellery, gyms, designer clothes, those oversized sunglasses posh people wear, pop music, apples, careers...

[Quark]

Optimism is overrated.

Oh, and so is Neely.

[BienvenuJDC]

Fad phrases like...

"That's so five minutes ago."

Couples names like...

"Brangelina"

http://popponny.se/uploads/2009/03/mtv_logo_ring.jpg is SO overrated...

[papayahed]

Always having to be right is overrated.

[DanielBenoit]

Always having to be right is overrated.

:iagree:

[toni]

Reading 5 pages of this thread makes me worry that everything in this world is overrated..

[LitNetIsGreat]

Oh, and so is Neely.

:hand:

More over-rated stuff: sausages, lager, big oranges (satsuma’s are fine), Quark, Easter eggs, corner shops and Blancmange...

[BienvenuJDC]

Other people's opinions about what is overrated....

[Lulim]

@Neely, what's wrong with a nice good apple?


BMWs are overrated. No, actually, they are superfluous. The world would be a better place without BMW.

[qimissung]

People who can dress well are overrated, imho (sorry Haunted).

[Virgil]

Reading 5 pages of this thread makes me worry that everything in this world is overrated..

The world is over rated. :p

[qimissung]

All-serious and meaningful posts are overrated on this Forum, I think...

But, Scher, you don't think Serious Cat is overrated, do you? :eek2:

[qimissung]

The world is over rated. :p

I'll drink to that! :cheers2:

Oh wait, that's overrated, isn't it?

[skib]

@Neely, what's wrong with a nice good apple?


BMWs are overrated. No, actually, they are superfluous. The world would be a better place without BMW.

Disagree. '85 6 series one of the funnest cars I've ever driven!

[Quark]

:hand:

Just kidding. You know we're friends.

Wait,,, actually we're not friends. How did that happen? I'll go friend you on LitNet.


But, Scher, you don't think Serious Cat is overrated, do you? :eek2:

Serious Cat are not amused by this discussion:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/01/serious_cat_not_amused.jpg

[JuniperWoolf]

Sometimes I click on the "serious forum" just so that I can see serious cat... I love his stoic little mouth.

[DanielBenoit]

People who can dress well are overrated, imho (sorry Haunted).

You got a problem with me dressing formally whenever I go to Wal-Mart? Huh, huh? :p


Sometimes I click on the "serious forum" just so that I can see serious cat... I love his stoic little mouth.

Omg you are not alone! I love Serious Cat!!! Sometimes I feel like him lol.

[JuniperWoolf]

Omg you are not alone! I love Serious Cat!!! Sometimes I feel like him lol.

Haha, sometimes when I see him I try to make his facial expression. It's not as easy as you'd think it is to be so... serious.

[LitNetIsGreat]

@Neely, what's wrong with a nice good apple?

BMWs are overrated. No, actually, they are superfluous. The world would be a better place without BMW.

The world would be a better place without cars...

Apples are OK, but that is it. They cannot on any planet compete with the likes of raspberries, strawberries, blueberries, fresh pineapples or even juicy peaches. Really the French have a type of apple called the Golden Delicious, A) they are not golden, B) they are not delicious - however they have the sense to ship them over to England where the fools buy them in cartloads! Clever people those French.


Just kidding. You know we're friends.


Of course you were jesting, I knew that, no one can over-rate Neely. :driving:

[Lulim]

Ah, right. Golden Delicious aren't in any way to be compared with Cox Orange, say, or that other sort I don't know the name of, that used to grow in my parents' garden ...

[soundofmusic]

The "Twilight Series" and movies are overrated...:iagree:

But as long as the sexy, overrated Robert Pattinson is on them, this old lady (who has found that cougardom is overrated, is watching him):hurray::brow:

[Virgil]

Do I dare say it? What the heck.

The Literature Network is over rated. :p





(Only kidding. :wink5:)

[Daily Alice]

Human intellect is overrated. ;)

[LitNetIsGreat]

Celebrities, the news, weather reports...

[Janine]

Shal I say it. Yes, why not: James Joyce is over rated. :D

I was going to say the same thing, Virgil ....not DHL...never!!! Oh horrors....looking now for rotten tomatoes...a whole bussel full. If anything he's under-rated. Scher, I can't believe you said that...you just told me you liked the "The Rocking Horse Winner.

Since when, MarkB, did you make a comment in the L thread? I have never seen you over there. Also, if you two haven't read many of his works, how do you know he's over-rated?

Splat! That's the rotten tomatoes coming your way!

[Virgil]

How about a college degree? Yes I do believe that is over rated, though having a diploma is not.

And a corollary to that is college professors with PhDs. Pfft. Way over rated. In fact it reminded me of this famous quote:

"I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." -William F. Buckley, Jr.

[MarkBastable]

Since when, MarkB, did you make a comment in the L thread? I have never seen you over there. Also, if you two haven't read many of his works, how do you know he's over-rated?



Not only did you see me there - you talked to me. And you asked the same question there as you've now asked here.

Take a look at the last post in this thread (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=819073&highlight=lawrence#post819073).

But, as I also said in an earlier post in that thread, had I not read his work, I'd have no reason to say I didn't like it, would I?

[Emil Miller]

[QUOTE=Neely;870163] Really the French have a type of apple called the Golden Delicious, A) they are not golden, B) they are not delicious -
. [QUOTE]

I have to agree with you there. It reminds me of the time when I was working in a laboratory, doing a crossword puzzle with a colleague during the lunch break. Sitting at a nearby lab bench was a flighty young blonde female who was cutting up an apple. She called out to my colleague: "Willie, would you like a bit of my golden delicious?" To which he replied: "Ok, but wait until you've finished eating your apple."

[MarkBastable]

I have to agree with you there. It reminds me of the time when I was working in a laboratory, doing a crossword puzzle with a colleague during the lunch break. Sitting at a nearby lab bench was a flighty young blonde female who was cutting up an apple. She called out to my colleague: "Willie, would you like a bit of my golden delicious?" To which he replied: "Ok, but wait until you've finished eating your apple."


Similarly, when I was a young office person, a bloke was attempting to prepare a sheaf of papers to go in a ring-binder, by making holes with a small hand-held device that was obviously not up to the job.

He called to the middle-aged woman who was in charge of stationery sundries, "Oi! Have you got a big hole-punch?"

To which she replied, "None of your business, and don't call me 'Punch'."

[Scheherazade]

Scher, I can't believe you said that...you just told me you liked the Mark. You mean I liked the "Rocking Horse Winner"? :p

I liked that story but I am not say, over all, I am that impressed by Lawrence... And I think I have read enough of his work to know that I don't care about it much.
(Thanks for the tomatoes, by the way! :D)


I think being intellectual is overrated too! :p


Oh, I will get reaaaallly butchered for this one but...

I also think owning personal libraries and buying books are overrated.

[Emil Miller]

You mean I liked the "Rocking Horse Winner"? :p

I liked that story but I am not say, over all, I am that impressed by Lawrence... And I think I have read enough of his work to know that I don't care about it much.
(Thanks for the tomatoes, by the way! :D)


I think being intellectual is overrated too! :p


Oh, I will get reaaaallly butchered for this one but...

I also think owning personal libraries and buying books are overrated.

Before reaching for my revolver, please say why.

[Scheherazade]

Before reaching for my revolver, please say why.Which part, Sheriff?

PS: And I have no intention of reaching for your revolver... :p

[Virgil]

You mean I liked the "Rocking Horse Winner"? :p

I liked that story but I am not say, over all, I am that impressed by Lawrence... And I think I have read enough of his work to know that I don't care about it much.
(Thanks for the tomatoes, by the way! :D)

As a Lawrence admirer, I understand how you can feel that way Scher. He's not for everyone, and it does take a bit of background reading to really understand him. I will say that story is not one of my favorites. Have you read Sons and Lovers?



I think being intellectual is overrated too! :p


Oh, I will get reaaaallly butchered for this one but...
Oh not from me! I am in complete agreement! Hear, hear!
:iagree:


I also think owning personal libraries and buying books are overrated.
Well, I guess that is over rated, though I love having my library. :)

[papayahed]

High School Football (at least in the south)

[Hurricane]

High School Football (at least in the south)

Underrated in the north, funnily enough.

<-- Never went to a football game before college, and had only watched football on TV when it was the Superbowl (and the Patriots were playing).

I think March Madness is overrated.

[IJustMadeThatUp]

Roses are overrated.

So true! They're so cliche! I'd take a plant as a gift over a bunch of flowers anyday.


Amen to that.

Coors, MGD, people who play guitar at parties, "Twilight" (Don't worry I won't get into it), support groups, astrology, and Japanese cars (sorry Toyota).

HEY! I drive a Nissan!

Double post. Oops, sorry!

Oooh it's been fixed! Magic... Magic is not over-rated, it's magic.

[Janine]

You mean I liked the "Rocking Horse Winner"? :p

I liked that story but I am not say, over all, I am that impressed by Lawrence... And I think I have read enough of his work to know that I don't care about it much.
(Thanks for the tomatoes, by the way! :D)

:lol: You're welcome! They were home grown, too. I went back and edited that...yes, meant that story. It's weird, because I typed it right the first time and then when I edited the first time it completely left out a few lines; which I had not realised. The program does that often. Oh, I didn't know you had read much Lawrence. Which of the novels have you read? Virgil is right in saying, that L is not for everyone. I guess it has to strike a cord with you on some level and then you can relate. It did for me for some odd reason.



I think being intellectual is overrated too! :pGood one!


Oh, I will get reaaaallly butchered for this one but...

I also think owning personal libraries and buying books are overrated. No, don't agree. I love owning my own books and refer to them often. Only thing is the take up a lot of space.

[BienvenuJDC]

Human Resource Departments and Hiring Assessments are SOOOO overrated...

[Emil Miller]

Which part, Sheriff?

PS: And I have no intention of reaching for your revolver... :p

The bit about owning and buying books

PS: Quite right. It is never wise to touch a man's revolver.

[Taliesin]

Concerning overrated mushrooms&apples - there are so many kinds of apples and mushrooms with so different tastes, that if someone says they are overrated I really wonder how many different types have they eaten.


Being a fanboy of any OS is overrated.
(this comes from someone who uses a Mac - it's okay, but nothing to get oneself into a flame-war for)

[BienvenuJDC]

Words that combine two words....like
Chill - relaxing
chillaxin'

[LadyW]

OASIS.
Chocolate.
Paul McCartney.
TV.
Attention.
Cleverness.

[papayahed]

crawfish

[The Comedian]

Some more stuff that's overrated: Grumpy, old man style

Free-verse poetry: too often this simply means "rough draft" that never gets revised.

Ipods/MP3 players: too often I see people stuff those ear buds in their auditory canals the minute they step outside to hear some crappy song that they've heard a hundred times before. But can they identify the song of ONE bird that frequents their neighborhood? Nope.

Movies in general: too often movies rely on a powerful musical score to make up for lousy characterizations, nonsensical plots, and simplistic dialogue.

Toys: too often toys are worthless junk that clutter the floor and belittle the imaginations of both parent and child. The other day I entertained my young niece for an hour with an empty can of Pabst Blue Ribbon. (After I let her take a few drinks while her parents weren't lookin', she was entertained by anything! <-- kidding, sheesh!)

Logic: Most of the best things in my life have nothing to do with logic: my love, my family, the giant brook trout I caught on that fluky cast I made, the peace of hot coffee in the morning, the honesty of splitting firewood in early fall. None of these great things make a damn bit of sense. But there they are in all their awesomeness.

To be continued. . . .

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to add the biggest one of all. The most over-rated anything is travel. People love to get away, see new things, meet new people. But have they ever spoken to their neighbor? No. Do they know animals and plants that live near them? No. Do they know their family history? No. Do they know their region's history? No.

EDIT EDIT: One more overrated thing being bored. "This town is boring" they cry! "This class is boring" they moan! "This song is boring" they proclaim! "This walk is boring" they whine!

"Do you know why you're bored?" I ask.

"Because you're boring" I answer.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Excellent observations there, well said. I mean how on earth can anyone be bored, it just doesn't figure? This is one of my pet hates with teenagers, everything is boring, boring all the time (OK, not just teenagers but mostly so) and no matter what you do or try to please them they are always bored. Wake up the world is not there to constantly entertain you like some giant ipod! - get in-line teenagers. As I said previously teenagers are over-rated, they are, well, boring...

[Taliesin]

Daylight saving time. It's main use is ruining peoples sleep schedules.

[Oniw17]

I'm only 200 pages into it, and this may be because I read my favorite book just before starting it, but Anna Karenina seems a little overrated, though Levin is an admirable character.

[Janine]

Daylight saving time. It's main use is ruining peoples sleep schedules.

Amen! I hate it...wish our country would just stop doing it.

[Scheherazade]

The bit about owning and buying books

No, don't agree. I love owning my own books and refer to them often. Only thing is the take up a lot of space.I think it is simply "collecting" and I don't want to be possessive like that.

How many of us can we say that we have read every single book we own? We still go out and buy more in a compulsive way... like an addiction.

I borrow my books from library unless it is an absolute necessity for me to buy them and I mostly give them away after reading so that other people can benefit from them.

It is a little like collecting butterflies.

Anyhow, I have expressed my personal stand on this matter on more than one occassion on the Forum. Even though I wish that more people used the libraries and shared what they had with others, I understand it is a personal choice as well. (However, I reserve the right to roll my eyes if I saw you hoarding more books you can ever house or read :p)

Re. Lawrence: Sons and Lovers, Lady Chatterley's Lover, The Rainbow and some of his stories.

[Emil Miller]

I think it is simply "collecting" and I don't want to be possessive like that.

How many of us can we say that we have read every single book we own? We still go out and buy more in a compulsive way... like an addiction.

I borrow my books from library unless it is an absolute necessity for me to buy them and I mostly give them away after reading so that other people can benefit from them.

It is a little like collecting butterflies.

Re. Lawrence: Sons and Lovers, Lady Chatterley's Lover, The Rainbow and some of his stories.

There is a commonplace remark about books furnishing a room and I think many LitNetters will have their books arranged in bookcases that add a touch of colour and decoration to their rooms. My bedroom has a large bookcase full of books and the living-room has two large bookcases similarly arrayed. I just like seeing books, it has a civilising effect. I admit that there are many books stashed away in boxes that cannot be displayed due to shortage of space but if I had the kind of home that is my ideal, they would all be on shelves. I am not a compulsive buyer of books, I tend to buy them singly or in two's at the most but I can honestly say that I have read all of the books that I have bought. I have nothing against anyone using a library for the books they need, for many years I spent a good deal of time in libraries rather than pay for books. With the passage of time, however, libraries became social centres rather than libraries per se and I found it preferable to frequent London bookstores without the hassle of public libraries.

[JuniperWoolf]

Show me a map of the brain and point to the superego.

*shrug* Pre-frontal cortex.

Id = amygdala.

Can you point out the personality on a map of the brain? No. Does that mean that it doesn't exist? No. Anyway, it's just a theory, and considering that it was over a hundred years ago I think he did pretty well with what he had.

I was a psych student, but I was more into the scientific process than adhering to any particular brand of theories. You can bash Freud (obviously, his theories didn't have an emperical leg to stand on), but Daniel's right: without him, the field of psychology wouldn't be nearly as advanced (especially clinical psychology). Freudian psych was a vital stepping stone, it didn't "set us back" because before him, we were nowhere. We hadn't made any advances yet. It's become sort of popular to diss psychoanalysis, so I'm going to say that psychoanalysis = UNDERRATED!

Overrated = Make-up.

*EDIT*

What? We are dealing with concepts, ideas, possible aspects of human nature not physical parts of the brain. You can't surely say that psychological readings didn't bring anything to the Turn of the Screw discussion, nothing, zero? :nonod:


Ah, I see I've already missed this discussion. *sigh* Oh well...

[Virgil]

*You can bash Freud (obviously, his theories didn't have an emperical leg to stand on),

You made my case. End of story. You learned empirical psychology and brain function because that's all that is relevant today. Freud's nonsense set back our understanding of brain function by fifty years at least.

[IJustMadeThatUp]

Ipods/MP3 players: too often I see people stuff those ear buds in their auditory canals the minute they step outside to hear some crappy song that they've heard a hundred times before. But can they identify the song of ONE bird that frequents their neighborhood? Nope.


Hey! These are important tools for ignoring the mindless and repetitive chatter of workmates so that you can GET some work done!

[JuniperWoolf]

You made my case. End of story. You learned empirical psychology and brain function because that's all that is relevant today. Freud's nonsense set back our understanding of brain function by fifty years at least.

B-but you ignored the rest of my post! We didn't understand brain function in the late 1890's, not one bit! He couldn't have set us back, because we were nowhere!

...also, empirical psychology and brain function are one thing (science psychology which, don't get me wrong, is wickedly fun) but Freud was the father of clinical psychology which is completely different and just as (if not more) imortant. Freud hardly said anything at all about the material brain, his work was all clinical (also Virg, you're a duelist: isn't arguing in favour of materialism sort of weird?).

And, lest we forget, it's just a theory.

Anyway, not to take the threat on a tangent: getting too drunk is overrated. So are parties and bars, especially stupid big ones where half the people you don't like and the other half you don't know. When I was a young teen, I thought they'd be really fun. Then I had more experience, and realized that it's just hanging out with annoyingly drunk losers and listening to crappy music that is blaring much too loudly. Much better: lounging around a campfire with people that you like late into the night.

[Virgil]

Well, you have your opinion, I have mine. The id, ego, superego, Oediple complex, dream interpretations, word associations is all nonsense. No clinical psychologist or any kind of psychologist uses any of that now that we have a better understanding of brain function. His nonsense held back real study. I can assure you, anyone with mental illness will never today be treated in a Freudian way.

By that definition alone, it shows he's over rated. :wink5:

[JuniperWoolf]

Well, you have your opinion, I have mine. The id, ego, superego, Oediple complex, dream interpretations, word associations is all nonsense. No clinical psychologist or any kind of psychologist uses any of that now that we have a better understanding of brain function. His nonsense held back real study. I can assure you, anyone with mental illness will never today be treated in a Freudian way.

I didn't say he was right: of course he's not correct in his indevidual theories. That's not the point. He blazed the trail for psychology; he was among the first people to study the mind, and the very first prominent psychologist. If he hadn't decided to study the mind, we likely wouldn't even have "real study," let alone be further advanced than we are now (and by the way, we really aren't that advanced; the more you learn about brain function/materialism the more you realize that we've barely scratched the surface). He didn't hold us back, he ignited frenzied scientists to disprove his theories (which is another HUGE part of science; competition).

Plus, like I said, even though therapy based on a psychoanalytic model is rare (but not unheard of), his style and methodology was groundbreaking (the whole talk-therapy thing, they didn't do that before Freud). Psychoanalysis was first postulated by him, and then improved on by MANY others (including my favorite, Carl Jung). You really expect the very first man that put forth a theory to get everything 100% correct? That's not how science works. It's a building-up process (and tearing-down, and re-building). Psychoanalysis is still around nowadays, it's just obviously different than it was when Freud first coined the term for his brand of theory.

[qimissung]

Not only did you see me there - you talked to me. And you asked the same question there as you've now asked here.

Take a look at the last post in this thread (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=819073&highlight=lawrence#post819073).

But, as I also said in an earlier post in that thread, had I not read his work, I'd have no reason to say I didn't like it, would I?

:lol: That is too funny. Apparently having a good memory is not overrated.

You're both right: Freud's theory's have been surpassed by what knowledge we have since acquired, and he did blaze the trail.


There is a commonplace remark about books furnishing a room and I think many LitNetters will have their books arranged in bookcases that add a touch of colour and decoration to their rooms. My bedroom has a large bookcase full of books and the living-room has two large bookcases similarly arrayed. I just like seeing books, it has a civilising effect. I admit that there are many books stashed away in boxes that cannot be displayed due to shortage of space but if I had the kind of home that is my ideal, they would all be on shelves. I am not a compulsive buyer of books, I tend to buy them singly or in two's at the most but I can honestly say that I have read all of the books that I have bought. I have nothing against anyone using a library for the books they need, for many years I spent a good deal of time in libraries rather than pay for books. With the passage of time, however, libraries became social centres rather than libraries per se and I found it preferable to frequent London bookstores without the hassle of public libraries.

I have to say, BrianBean, that I, too, love my books. I try not keep those that I am not going to read too long. I have a set of shelves in my bedroom. A house without books is a lonely house, I say.

But I love the library, too. I have spent many happy hours perusing the shelves in a library, and my heart always gets a lift at going into one, or even at the thought of going into the library, and then coming out an hour or two later with a large stack of books in my arms.

And I love bookstores, too. We have a bookstore in our area called Half Price Books. Oh, the joy! I also love Barnes and Noble, although they are a little expensive. There is also a Border's practically across the street from the school where I work, and I love going in there, too.

So, in my opinion, books, owning books, buying books, checking out books from your local library, having a library card and using it frequently, and bookcases full of books are not overrated, but are activities that should be indulged in frequently.

My job here is done. :leaving:

[Virgil]

Ok, to change the subject, how about taking vitamins as over rated.

[BienvenuJDC]

Radical dieting is overrated...

[skib]

Ok, to change the subject, how about taking vitamins as over rated.

How about those of us . . . I mean those with a poorly balanced diet? I see nothing wrong with popping a multivitamin rather than eat my vegetables. :p

[MarkBastable]

See, this has just degenerated into a litany of dislikes, as if 'It's over-rated...' were synonymous with 'I'm not in favour of...'

But it seems to me that

a) one can think something is quite good, though not as good as is generally accepted. That's what the 'over' bit of 'over-rated' is doing.

b) you have to have some kind of supporting argument for the assertion, otherwise you're just trotting out your personal disaffections.

So, for instance, Charlie Chaplin.

He was the first person to make a universally recognisable icon of himself. Even now the image of a bowler hat and a brushstroke moustache is enough to evoke the character of the Little Tramp. Chaplin invented fame, in modern terms.

On top of that, he was cinema’s original auteur – conceiving, producing, directing, scoring and starring in films financed by his own company, which marketed and distributed the work.

He was also a principled artist who refused to kowtow to the McCarthy witch hunts, betraying neither his colleagues nor his beliefs. No one who so irritated Ronald Reagan and J. Edgar Hoover can be lightly dismissed.

But only historians of the cinema remember Chaplin for these achievements. Everyone else lauds him for his comedy – and there’s the problem. It’s just not funny.

The splay-footed, teetering Tramp is a small child in a big suit, which gives rise to precisely the infantile humour one might expect – cutesy affection, manic slapstick, shallow pathos. One shouldn’t knock it for its lack of sophistication – there’s nothing wrong with a pratfall - but for its predictability. Like a four-year-old who’s discovered that putting on grown-up shoes gets an indulgent laugh, Chaplin shuffles through the door in Mummy’s slippers again and again and again, until the charm has worn off and teeth-grinding irritation has set in. One begins to wish that the beetle-browed father of the blushing virgin would slam his huge fist right into the Tramp’s smirking little face.

He was an accomplished clown, Mr Chaplin – if one is amused by dogged winsomeness - but he was not the genius he’s cracked up to be.

[TurquoiseSunset]

Anyway, not to take the threat on a tangent: getting too drunk is overrated. So are parties and bars, especially stupid big ones where half the people you don't like and the other half you don't know. When I was a young teen, I thought they'd be really fun. Then I had more experience, and realized that it's just hanging out with annoyingly drunk losers and listening to crappy music that is blaring much too loudly. Much better: lounging around a campfire with people that you like late into the night.

Amen :iagree:
I want to add to that: clubs are overrated.

[Lokasenna]

Amen :iagree:
I want to add to that: clubs are overrated.

Agreed. Give me a nice old-man pub any day...

[Katy North]

I think it is simply "collecting" and I don't want to be possessive like that.

How many of us can we say that we have read every single book we own? We still go out and buy more in a compulsive way... like an addiction.

I borrow my books from library unless it is an absolute necessity for me to buy them and I mostly give them away after reading so that other people can benefit from them.

It is a little like collecting butterflies.

Anyhow, I have expressed my personal stand on this matter on more than one occassion on the Forum. Even though I wish that more people used the libraries and shared what they had with others, I understand it is a personal choice as well. (However, I reserve the right to roll my eyes if I saw you hoarding more books you can ever house or read :p)
.

Roll your eyes away. I love my pretty book butterflies...

No I haven't read them all. Yes I agree they're probably over-rated. But they're my PRECIOUS!!!! :yesnod:

[Emil Miller]

Agreed. Give me a nice old-man pub any day...

They are becoming an endangered species and have practically disappeared from London. Whoever thought of putting piped music(?) into pubs should be shot.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Definitely support the idea that loud silly bars (and many of the people in them) are over-rated and over-priced - good call. A cosy traditional pub blinds all that sort of nonsense.

All I can say in 50 seconds to the criticisms of having your own library is a big tut tut again to Sch, no, no. What should I do with all my precious books, the complete works of Milton, Wilde, Shakespeare, Keats, Shelley etc, give them away? Never return to them again in my life? No, these sort of books are a constant source of pleasure and sanity in an insane world...

[applepie]

How many of us can we say that we have read every single book we own? We still go out and buy more in a compulsive way... like an addiction.

I borrow my books from library unless it is an absolute necessity for me to buy them and I mostly give them away after reading so that other people can benefit from them.


I have to agree that collecting books is overrated. I borrow from the library, and if they don't have something I wish to read then I'll often buy it and donate it to the library when I am finished.

Formal dinners are soooooooo overrated :lol: Give me a casual barbecue any day.

[Niamh]

Doc Martins are over-rated.

:eek: But they last a lifetime!!!


All right... I am gonna come out and say it:

I think Lawrence (DH, not "of Arabia"), Hardy (Thomas, not Oliver) and Woolf (Virginia, not Arhur) are overrated, too.

Send those rotten tomatoes in my general direction... I will be more than happy to consume them in my new persona, anyway.

:D

I couldnt agree with you more! *ducks from flying tomatoes*


Shal I say it. Yes, why not: James Joyce is over rated. :D

Oh Virgil i could hug you a million times over for this one!! Joyce is the most overrated Irish writer, closely followed by Wilde.


Words that combine two words....like
Chill - relaxing
chillaxin'

You know the word chillax (chillaxin is just wrong) is a word inbedded in Dublin Dialect for decades. Its part of our languages soul...but i was so surprised when i heard it crop up in an american film a couple of years ago and no i feel its completely lost its heart being spat out of mouths like OMGs


Daylight saving time. It's main use is ruining peoples sleep schedules.

There was no need to continue it after the war! I hate DST!


We didn't understand brain function in the late 1890's, not one bit!

Oo i think a few victorian Scientists just rolled over in their graves with that one! :p


Anyway, not to take the threat on a tangent: getting too drunk is overrated. So are parties and bars, especially stupid big ones where half the people you don't like and the other half you don't know. When I was a young teen, I thought they'd be really fun. Then I had more experience, and realized that it's just hanging out with annoyingly drunk losers and listening to crappy music that is blaring much too loudly. Much better: lounging around a campfire with people that you like late into the night.

I couldnt agree with you more!! There is no need to get stociously drunk. I'd much rather spend an evening havinga few quiet drinks and conversation with my friends in a pub, on a deck or in a house.

Ugg boots. totally overrated

OMG is also overrated like totally!

U2. Do i even have to go there? yes. Overrated big time!

[LitNetIsGreat]

I have to agree that collecting books is overrated. I borrow from the library, and if they don't have something I wish to read then I'll often buy it and donate it to the library when I am finished.

Formal dinners are soooooooo overrated :lol: Give me a casual barbecue any day.

Again I don't understand this. Maybe if you are only interested in reading a book for the plot (as of course we all do to some degree) then I could perhaps agree with you. However, this is very different from my approach to most reading which is more of a lifelong thing. I want to possess as many books of quality as possible and I am going to return to them again and again throughout my life, like I said above as a constant source of pleasure and comfort. A book to me, and to some others I am sure, is not just about the experience I get from one read, but the potential experience and joy I get by returning to them again and again as full or partial reads. Often I will flick and read a few pages at random from any one of my books or re-read the whole thing. I have read Dorian Gray seven or eight times, Paradise Lost three or four etc, etc. What am I suppose to do with dear Oscar give him away to a charity shop? :eek: Poetry in particular to me demands multiple reading if you are going to get anything more from it than just a pretty piece of rhyming. Further to this as a student of literature I often need books around me for study or reference and having no personal library, however small (currently only around 400 books) is just not an option.

I would love to extend my collection but I have filled up two bookcases in my room as well as having several on the wardrobe, by the side of the bed, on the fridge and by the chair downstairs (some also under the bed) some by my computer, many piled up at the side of the bookcase or on top of the bookcase, so that Mrs Neely is not too pleased about the amount of books over spilling as it is. Really though honestly, I feel that I need at least 2000 books to be functioning as I would like to be able to do.

All of this does not mean that I don't use the library. I do, every week all the time and I would continue to do so even if I had a house big enough and Missus happy enough to allow me to fulfil my personal library needs and desires.

Edit: You can also see Oscar's opinion on the matter as summed up perfectly in the first quotation from my current signature below.

[papayahed]

Pina Coladas

[Haunted]

Go Green

[Scheherazade]

Qimi> Agreed that borrowing books from the library can never be overrated.

Re. owning personal libraries... Please do understand that some of us are not as intellectually gifted as you are... We read the books for the story lines and the dialogues (I personally read only even numbered pages in a book to save time and energy) so borrowing from the library does the trick.

:rolleyes5:

Even though I am happy in my plebby existence, even I own some books like Shakespeare's collected works (one does need something to use as a doorstop or climb upon to reach higher cupboards every now and then, after all). However, I still don't see the point of having to own every single book one reads.

With 2000 books, how often does one get a chance to read them again? To be able to have a look at them at least once a year, one needs to pull out around 6 books a day.

And the money invested on such collections... With half of that money we could build schools in less advantaged parts of the world.

Anyhow, these are the reasons why I don't want to get obsessed with the idea of having a personal library with thousands of books in it but if that is what makes you happy... *shrugs*

However, please do not try to persuade me that one can only appreciate books or literature through the number of books one owns (Yeah, this Rita is not educatable :p).

[LitNetIsGreat]

There's no need to jump to elitist insinuations. :nonod: No one ever said anything about feeling superior in regards to the number of books you do or don't own or in trying to persuade anybody that the only way they can appreciate literature is living in a library. But at the same time neither do I understand the argument about saving money to finance poor schools - at all??? What's that got to do with anything? Why not live without cars, bus fares, chocolate, French Fancies, sandwiches, popcorn, Jon Bon Jovi CDs etc - and send the money you save abroad that way?

I'm sorry but I just can't comprehend why any lover of books would not want to own them and be around them as much as possible. Hell, even with what I've got which is not enough - I even get a stack of pleasure just looking at the damn things! I'm always looking at them, all the time, they are so wonderful!

Personally, every book I buy I intend to return to in some way much more than once. I still use the library all the time, I’ve been today in fact, and I don't buy everything I read especially if I am just doing a one-off essay, but for me having books around me is just part of me - it simply has to be done and I get very touchy when anyone threatens this part of my life. I can’t understand it. I would much rather scrimp on food than books or music. I would rather go hungry or live on dry rice than be without my books. To me life without art is no life at all.

:leaving:

[Scheherazade]

But at the same time neither do I understand the argument about saving money to finance poor schools - at all??? What's that got to do with anything? Why not live without cars, bus fares, chocolate, French Fancies, sandwiches, popcorn, Jon Bon Jovi CDs etc - and send the money you save abroad that way? You don't need to send the money (though it would be nice if you did :p) but I mentioned this only to point out the amount of money tied down in so many houses in a similar manner all over the world. And if one were to consume thousands of chocolates or sandwiches etc a year in a similar manner, they would be getting similar comments too.

I get very touchy when anyone threatens this part of my life. I can’t understand it. I am sorry that you feel touchy on this issue but don't see why you are taking this so personally either. This is my opinion and I have already said twice in this thread:
Anyhow, these are the reasons why I don't want to get obsessed with the idea of having a personal library with thousands of books in it but if that is what makes you happy... *shrugs*

Even though I wish that more people used the libraries and shared what they had with others, I understand it is a personal choice as well.You have posted long lists of things you find overrated and I am happy to consider those your choices/opinions/tastes.

[qimissung]

"Please do understand that some of us are not as intellectually gifted as you are."

Uh, Scher, were you referring to moi when you said that? :D

[JuniperWoolf]

Aww, Neely I find your emotional attachment to your books adorable. Haha, when Schere said that she thought that personal libraries were overrated it was like she was making fun of your best friend.

I kinda like owning my own personal library, but I take it very seriously; I don't just let any old book in, only books that I feel very strongly about and have read over and over are allowed on my shelf (The Grapes of Wrath, Paradise Lost, Swamp Thing, The Secret Garden, little kid books that my mom read to me when I was little, stuff like that). I do the same with my movies shelf... I only want to actually possess films that are very significant to me. It just feels good to have them there. Not to sound crazy, but they're kind of like friends. Everything else I borrow, either from the library or a friend (yes, I'm that friend who's always like "hey man, can I take your copy of American Psycho home for a few days?").

That being said, my boyfriend (who is ironically a librarian) always buys the books he reads. He never borrows... I think he either gets too attached to the books to give them back or he just hates sharing (only child syndrome, I'm thinking).

Overrated: Halo. Why is that stupid game so popular? It's just another boring first person shooter.

[TurquoiseSunset]

Ugg boots. totally overrated

OMG is also overrated like totally!

U2. Do i even have to go there? yes. Overrated big time!

I agree!

Loads of people will disagree, but I think Catcher in the Rye is completely overrated! I just don't get it...

[Revolte]

Pride in something you had nothing to do with.

Pop culture.

Fame.

T.V.

Modern Living.

Big houses.

The City.

[MarkBastable]

Pride in something you had nothing to do with.

...such as your nationality. How can someone say they are 'proud to be English'? If they'd been born two hundred miles further north, they'd be proud to be Scots. It's so arbitrary. A fondness for where you happened, by chance, to be born - I understand that. But pride?

As a kind of trivial adjunct to this, I can never understand why people say 'Thank you' in response to a compliment on, say, their shoes.

"Oh, I do like your shoes."

"Thank you!"

"Why are you thanking me? Did you actually make the shoes? Are they your creation? All you did was hand over the money - anyone could have done that. Or are you grateful for what you see as a compliment by association? Because, I should tell you, the shoes would look good on their own. Or on a goat. Would you be grateful if I'd said, I do like your shoes, but not on you? What, in short, do you think just happened that you should feel thankful for?"

"Er - okay then. What would you say would be the correct response to I like your shoes?"

"I'd suggest, So do I."

"Well, of course I do. Because I did in fact make them. That's what I do. I'm a shoe maker."

"Oh.... Love your earrings."

[LitNetIsGreat]

Aww, Neely I find your emotional attachment to your books adorable. Haha, when Schere said that she thought that personal libraries were overrated it was like she was making fun of your best friend.

Yes exactly that is it, though it is worse than that as my friends have faults and my books do not. However, I can probably feel it within me (I am man enough) to forgive Sch for her most dreadful insults to my whole being and purpose on earth. :wink5:


...such as your nationality. How can someone say they are 'proud to be English'? If they'd been born two hundred miles further north, they'd be proud to be Scots. It's so arbitrary. A fondness for where you happened, by chance, to be born - I understand that. But pride?

Yes, yes yes. I feel the same way. Wilde said to Whitman I think it was over a similar point of view, he said "oh, you prefer places? I am of the world." I can't understand all of this British Bulldog type of thing or wherever it may be, it makes very little sense when you put things into a wider context.

[Lokasenna]

...such as your nationality. How can someone say they are 'proud to be English'? If they'd been born two hundred miles further north, they'd be proud to be Scots. It's so arbitrary. A fondness for where you happened, by chance, to be born - I understand that. But pride?

As a kind of trivial adjunct to this, I can never understand why people say 'Thank you' in response to a compliment on, say, their shoes.

"Oh, I do like your shoes."

"Thank you!"

"Why are you thanking me? Did you actually make the shoes? Are they your creation? All you did was hand over the money - anyone could have done that. Or are you grateful do for what you see as a compliment by association? Because, I should tell you, the shoes would look good on their own. Or on a goat. Would you be grateful if I'd said, I do like your shoes, but not on you? What, in short, do you think just happened that you should feel thankful for?"

"Er - okay then. What would you say would be the correct response to I like your shoes?"

"I'd suggest, So do I."

"Well, of course I do. Because I did in fact make them. That's what I do. I'm a shoe maker."

"Oh.... Love your earrings."

I don't know. Complimenting someone's shoes is in essence complimenting their sense of taste, and their discretion in buying such tasteful shoes; on one level, it is a personal comment, and thus should be acknowledged with a thank you!

[MarkBastable]

I don't know. Complimenting someone's shoes is in essence complimenting their sense of taste, and their discretion in buying such tasteful shoes; on one level, it is a personal comment, and thus should be acknowledged with a thank you!

So it comes down to...

"You and I have the same taste in shoes."

"Thank you. I am grateful I have the same taste as you."

[sixsmith]

Bob Dylan: Unquestionably brilliant but not beyond reproach. Self Portrait, for example, is an abysmal record.

Don DeLillo: Major talent but probably writes the highest number of cringeworthy sentences per book of any lauded contemporary novelist.

Vegetables: Take lettuce. It’s basically grass. Would you eat grass? No.

Film: Artistically, a dying medium.

Thomas Pynchon: Downhill since Gravity’s Rainbow.

The Outsider: Kafka makes much of Camus seem rather slight. Camus still a great though.

Blood Meridian: Not as good as Suttree.

The Leaning Tower of Pisa: Wow.

The Olympics: No ball, not a sport.

Dostoyevsky: The man is anti-style.

Faulkner: I’ve recently given Faulkner an extended run. Statistically, there’s only so much dribble that can be genius. The rest is just dribble.

Post-rock: I love a pointless crescendo as much the next pretentious twat born on the cusp of gen y. But enough already.

[applepie]

I'm sorry but I just can't comprehend why any lover of books would not want to own them and be around them as much as possible. Hell, even with what I've got which is not enough - I even get a stack of pleasure just looking at the damn things! I'm always looking at them, all the time, they are so wonderful!

Personally, every book I buy I intend to return to in some way much more than once. I still use the library all the time, I’ve been today in fact, and I don't buy everything I read especially if I am just doing a one-off essay, but for me having books around me is just part of me - it simply has to be done and I get very touchy when anyone threatens this part of my life. I can’t understand it. I would much rather scrimp on food than books or music. I would rather go hungry or live on dry rice than be without my books. To me life without art is no life at all.

:leaving:

It isn't that I have anything against owning books, but I would much rather share them with other people. By donating them to the library when I'm finished, I ensure that not only I get to enjoy them but so do many others. At some point it becomes hoarding for the sake of just having them, and I don't really understand that. I have a few select books that I keep. I've the complete works of Shakespeare, Canterbury Tales, Lord of the Flies, and maybe a handful of others that I actually own, but part of the pleasure in buying books for me is knowing that I'll be ensuring others will have access to them as well. If I just kept them to myself in a personal library then I would deny them to others. It isn't the soundest of logic I suppose, but I guess it boils down to the fact that it is important to me to share the things I love most.

[LitNetIsGreat]

It isn't that I have anything against owning books, but I would much rather share them with other people. By donating them to the library when I'm finished, I ensure that not only I get to enjoy them but so do many others. At some point it becomes hoarding for the sake of just having them, and I don't really understand that. I have a few select books that I keep. I've the complete works of Shakespeare, Canterbury Tales, Lord of the Flies, and maybe a handful of others that I actually own, but part of the pleasure in buying books for me is knowing that I'll be ensuring others will have access to them as well. If I just kept them to myself in a personal library then I would deny them to others. It isn't the soundest of logic I suppose, but I guess it boils down to the fact that it is important to me to share the things I love most.

Getting dragged back into it again but...by keeping the books you love (which you will return to again and again) you are not denying anybody anything. It is not as if a copy of a book is the only book in existence; they have more copies of them you know, it’s not a case one or the other. :wink5:

[kilted exile]

Wayne Rooney - overweight and overhyped

MMA - bunch of ex-wrestling fans

[keilj]

Pride in something you had nothing to do with.

Pop culture.

Fame.

T.V.

Modern Living.

Big houses.

The City.


:iagree:

i like the way you think

[applepie]

Getting dragged back into it again but...by keeping the books you love (which you will return to again and again) you are not denying anybody anything. It is not as if a copy of a book is the only book in existence; they have more copies of them you know, it’s not a case one or the other. :wink5:

:lol: I know that in an academic sense, but like I said it isn't the most sound of logic :D

[Niamh]

I so agree with Wayne Rooney! And David Beckhem.

[kilted exile]

Earth hour

Electronic ballets


Devolution

[BienvenuJDC]

Earth hour

Electronic ballets


I just heard of Earth hour for the first time...and I already agree. What are Electronic ballets?

[kilted exile]

I just heard of Earth hour for the first time...and I already agree. What are Electronic ballets?

sorry, meant ballots - how am I meant to spoil my ballot if it is bleeding electronic I tried once and the person who runs it through the machine announced loudly enough for everyone to hear that it had a mistake and didnt go through - I explained I intended to spoil it and knew it wouldnt go through she gave me a strange look (so much for for the privacy of the ballot box)

[BienvenuJDC]

sorry, meant ballots - how am I meant to spoil my ballot if it is bleeding electronic I tried once and the person who runs it through the machine announced loudly enough for everyone to hear that it had a mistake and didnt go through - I explained I intended to spoil it and knew it wouldnt go through she gave me a strange look (so much for for the privacy of the ballot box)

Thank you...for the life of me, I was trying to imagine how a ballet could be electronic...
:smilielol5:

[magzarelli]

Cooking shows.... Thats so overated

[JuniperWoolf]

MMA - bunch of ex-wrestling fans

Oh yeah?!? Well... uh... I know you are, but what am I?!?

[Quark]

Cooking shows.... Thats so overated

That and travel shows. Really, who wants to stay at home and watch something about going outside? My torment are those shows that combine travel and cooking. I once had to sit through an episode of a Travel Channel show where they visited various restaurants. I actually remember yawning in the middle of another yawn.

[Taliesin]

Vegetables: Take lettuce. It’s basically grass. Would you eat grass? No.


This statement is just made of facepalm.

"Meat: Take pork. It's basically rotten carcass of a roadkill squirrel. Would you eat rotten carcass of a roadkill squirrel? No."

I must admit that the statement confounds me - I think I would rather forgo meat than vegetables. It might be a matter of taste, though, but still, I'm puzzled.

[MarkBastable]

That and travel shows. Really, who wants to stay at home and watch something about going outside?


.....Me.

[Quark]

.....Me.

That's why you and I can never be friends, Mark.

[MarkBastable]

That's why you and I can never be friends, Mark.

What do you think about reading books about travel?

[Scheherazade]

Early morning flights...

You end up being sleepless on two consecutive days.

[BienvenuJDC]

Automation

[MarkBastable]

Jim Morrison. A mediocre talent with a terrific - though unsustainable - beauty.

[JuniperWoolf]

But he was sooooo beautiful! And that crooning voice! I appreciate the fact that I was born female even more just for Jim Morrison having existed.

[dizzydoll]

Just for you JW:

The Doors - Riders on the Storm (original album version) - Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qRJIBtbc2c&feature=related) 7mins

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/The_Doors_band_members.jpg

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/501196912/Jim-Morrison_bigger.jpg

[Satan]

Everyone loves Morrison.

[Emil Miller]

Everyone loves Morrison.

But of course they do dear boy. It's the best supermarket in the UK.

[Scheherazade]

Automatic cars

[applepie]

Automatic cars

:lol: I was thinking cars in general.

[Scheherazade]

:lol: I was thinking cars in general.Not sure. I enjoy driving.

All right... I *have to* say this: FLIP FLOPS!

I am so tired of having to look at people's ugly bare feet (both women and men).

And putting nail polish or toe rings on does not make it OK!

[papayahed]

All right... I *have to* say this: FLIP FLOPS!



Sing it, Sister!!!! I'm am so ready for flip flops to be over.

[TurquoiseSunset]

All right... I *have to* say this: FLIP FLOPS!

I am so tired of having to look at people's ugly bare feet (both women and men).

And putting nail polish or toe rings on does not make it OK!


Sing it, Sister!!!! I'm am so ready for flip flops to be over.

What other flat shoes would people wear in summer? I wouldn't mind if Flip Flops dissapeared either to be honest.

I want to add to that...skinny jeans are sooo overrated, on everyone, but especially men...particularly when they have sninny legs too. It makes people look deformed and anorexic.

[Mr.lucifer]

http://www.justabovesunset.com/200903/assets/images/autogen/a_090312_ExLife01.jpg

[Niamh]

What other flat shoes would people wear in summer? I wouldn't mind if Flip Flops dissapeared either to be honest.

I want to add to that...skinny jeans are sooo overrated, on everyone, but especially men...particularly when they have sninny legs too. It makes people look deformed and anorexic.

I so agree with you about the skinny jeans!! and men in skinny jeans! Looks wrong! And i get jealous when i see pencil legs on men... I'd kill for skinnyish legs!

[papayahed]

What other flat shoes would people wear in summer? I wouldn't mind if Flip Flops dissapeared either to be honest.


I dunno, I can't find anything. Somebody could make a flat mule, no?



Over-rated: Mandatory valet!!:auto: That just burns my butt when I have to pay for valet service.

[OrphanPip]

Over-rated: Mandatory valet!!:auto: That just burns my butt when I have to pay for valet service.

Oh Christ, when the family went out for mother's day, the frigging valet literally parked the car right in front of the restaurant. Yet, we still tipped *sigh*.

[stlukesguild]

Automatic cars

Is there any other kind?

Seriously, Scher... you must not be in the US. Automatic IS the standard transmission. I doubt if more than 10% of Americans can even drive an automatic.

[BienvenuJDC]

Flip Flops (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/SummerSizzle/story?id=3505928&page=1)

[Haunted]

Flip Flops (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/SummerSizzle/story?id=3505928&page=1)

didn't you take a photo of your daughter wearing flip flops? Are you flip flopping on flip flops?

[BienvenuJDC]

I do not approve of her wearing Flip Flops.....that's all her mother's doing.

[Haunted]

It was a cold winter day and she should be wearing Bearpaws. Flip flops are for the summer. But what do I know about fashion...

[BienvenuJDC]

Or you could wear footed pajamas with flip flops and make a totally new fashion statement...
http://www.online-literature.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=811&pictureid=6343

[Scheherazade]

Automatic cars

Is there any other kind?

Seriously, Scher... you must not be in the US. Automatic IS the standard transmission. I doubt if more than 10% of Americans can even drive an automatic.You can't have missed this. (http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37875&highlight=automatic)

*edit*

Nope, you haven't.

[Perscors]

Referring to the politics of this or that book or poem ect... OVERRATED! I go to books to get away from politics!

don't know if these are "overrated" per se but I hate the phrase "touch base" too, OVERRATED :)

[kelby_lake]

As a Lawrence admirer, I understand how you can feel that way Scher. He's not for everyone, and it does take a bit of background reading to really understand him. I will say that story is not one of my favorites. Have you read Sons and Lovers?


I'd second that. It's a really good read and the characters are really strong- and I didn't laugh when I read it, as I did for parts of Women in Love :)

[Scheherazade]

Swearing.

[dafydd manton]

Swearing.

With you all the way. I heard it all before I was 14, and it ceased to be funny about then. 15 years in the Air Force, and again, heard very single word there is, and by better men than most of the third-rate comedians/"celebrities" who think that it is cool. It seems to be the last resort of the poorly educated, those with no imagination or those who haven't quite grown up yet.

[Niamh]

Football. Its sooo over rated. ;) hehehe *runs and hides*

[kilted exile]

So says the woman who was so annoyed by the chile spain game that she went and hid at half-time then couldnt stand to watch the second half.:goof:

[Virgil]

Swearing.

F'kn right. :p

[The Comedian]

Over-rated: "Chillin' out". Seriously -- the people who say this "chill out" all the time. The last thing they need to do is chill. Maybe they should work like hell or play like hell or read like hell or anything. Intensity. Discipline. Skill. Them's under-rated.

[Scheherazade]

Maybe they should work like hell or play like hell or read like hell or anything. Intensity. Discipline. Skill. Them's under-rated.Hear, hear!

[Janine]

People who say 'you guys' to girls and guys and women and men and children and whomever else.......to me it sounds immature....definitely over-rated! ha

[dafydd manton]

Especially to we Brits, Janine, to whom a Guy is an effigy burned on a Bonfire on November 5th. To commemorate Guy Fawkes, who tried to blow up the Parliament, and was thus the only person ever to enter politics with honest intent! All horribly politico-religious, but fun! But over-rated, sadly!

[papayahed]

yeah, "Ya'll" sounds so much better.

[dafydd manton]

And what's wring with "chaps", or, if there are any of the fairer sex in the room, "chaps and chapesses!"

[JuniperWoolf]

"Chapess" sounds too much like "chapass." If we've got to make a girl version, I say we go with "chapette."

[dafydd manton]

Hmmmmm!!! That's got mileage!! However, since I am male, and therefore automatically in the wrong, I shouldn't like to be dogmatic! (In the dog-house!)

[papayahed]

90 F Temperatures

[Scheherazade]

Being tanned... Especially those spray-on ones. Orange is not a better alternative to white/cream.

[Pensive]

Football. Its sooo over rated. ;) hehehe *runs and hides*

*seconds Niamh*
BUT it's kind of fascinating how a single ball gives so many people a hard time by making them run after it so desperately! :D

[Paulclem]

*seconds Niamh*
BUT it's kind of fascinating how a single ball gives so many people a hard time by making them run after it so desperately! :D

It's not surprising given the wages!:smile5:

[The Comedian]

They're crowded, expensive, and often filled with self-important dullards or drugged-up, empty-headed louts. They're loud; they're often stinky; and the parking is lousy. I'm talking about this: concerts. Concerts = OVER-RATED

[Emil Miller]

They're crowded, expensive, and often filled with self-important dullards or drugged-up, empty-headed louts. They're loud; they're often stinky; and the parking is lousy. I'm talking about this: concerts. Concerts = OVER-RATED

You must be talking about pop concerts. The reason why they are expensive is because the self-important dullards or drugged-up, empty-headed louts, don't realise that they are being taken to the cleaners.

[Veho]

They're crowded, expensive, and often filled with self-important dullards or drugged-up, empty-headed louts. They're loud; they're often stinky; and the parking is lousy. I'm talking about this: concerts. Concerts = OVER-RATED

Agreed! Never been to one though and I guess I shouldn't call something until I've tried it but I have absolutely no desire or intention of going to one. I wonder if that makes me a reeeally dull 21 year old? :blush:

[papayahed]

Agreed! Never been to one though and I guess I shouldn't call something until I've tried it but I have absolutely no desire or intention of going to one. I wonder if that makes me a reeeally dull 21 year old? :blush:

To each their own I always say. I love live music/concerts. I must be one of those self important dullards so I guess you can't go by what I say.

[JuniperWoolf]

I don't like them much either, but that's just because most of the people that I'd like to see are either dead or don't come to Canada.

[The Comedian]

To each their own I always say. I love live music/concerts. I must be one of those self important dullards so I guess you can't go by what I say.

Never have. . . .;) :lol:

[Emil Miller]

Agreed! Never been to one though and I guess I shouldn't call something until I've tried it but I have absolutely no desire or intention of going to one. I wonder if that makes me a reeeally dull 21 year old? :blush:

Nope, it simply means that you don't run with the herd. It's the herd that's dull, not the individuals who see it for what it is.

[MystyrMystyry]

Putting a Grand piano on a sandbar is difficult and really - over-rated..!

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Using a hyphen in "overrated" is OVERRATED.

[papayahed]

Never have. . . .;) :lol:


:ciappa:

[Big Dante]

I think this topic is overrated, I mean it's okay but is it really worth my time going to all this effort to type this message? No. Overrated thread.

[JuniperWoolf]

My friend just got into an argument with someone over drinking in -40 weather. A kid says that if you drink a 26 you won't freeze to death. Steve says "actually you'll freeze to death faster, alcohol makes your blood colder because your veins and arteries open up. You just feel warmer, because you're drunk." The idiot replied with "oh yeah, and what are you, a doctor? No? Then shut up."

Accepting useful information only if someone who has a fancy degree shares it with you = overrated. Welcome to your frozen grave, junior.

[Revolte]

My friend just got into an argument with someone over drinking in -40 weather. A kid says that if you drink a 26 you won't freeze to death. Steve says "actually you'll freeze to death faster, alcohol makes your blood colder because your veins and arteries open up. You just feel warmer, because you're drunk." The idiot replied with "oh yeah, and what are you, a doctor? No? Then shut up."

Accepting useful information only if someone who has a fancy degree shares it with you = overrated. Welcome to your frozen grave, junior.

straight up pawsumsauce yo.

Making fun of snuggies is overrated.

[JuniperWoolf]

Yeah, so is making fun of Justin Bieber. The kid's what, ten? Give him a break.

Also, Twilight. If it makes girls happy, then good for them. Dissing Twilight has become more popular than Twilight ever was to begin with, people who have never read a book in their life bash Twilight.

[Big Dante]

My friend just got into an argument with someone over drinking in -40 weather. A kid says that if you drink a 26 you won't freeze to death. Steve says "actually you'll freeze to death faster, alcohol makes your blood colder because your veins and arteries open up. You just feel warmer, because you're drunk." The idiot replied with "oh yeah, and what are you, a doctor? No? Then shut up."

Accepting useful information only if someone who has a fancy degree shares it with you = overrated. Welcome to your frozen grave, junior.

:nopity: Oh so very true.

[Revolte]

Yeah, so is making fun of Justin Bieber. The kid's what, ten? Give him a break.

Also, Twilight. If it makes girls happy, then good for them. Dissing Twilight has become more popular than Twilight ever was to begin with, people who have never read a book in their life bash Twilight.

I agree with everything that has been said within the confines of the above quote.

and or

^this

[The Comedian]

"large" when you really mean "small"

Want the small cup of coffee at Starbucks, you have to order the "tall"; "small fries", that's the "large" of course.

Seriously the concept of "small" is just fine.

[Calidore]

"large" when you really mean "small"

Want the small cup of coffee at Starbucks, you have to order the "tall"; "small fries", that's the "large" of course.

Seriously the concept of "small" is just fine.

And in some cases, a large that's actually large would be nice. A "regular" Wendy's soda is larger than a "large" Frostee. Should Wendy's management be reading this, please note that I am not suggesting fixing this by shrinking the regular.

[Pensive]

facebook.

[BienvenuJDC]

Opinions

[faithosaurus]

I have NEVER cared for or watched these...but it seems that MOST people think they are great...

Reality Shows are OVER-RATED...


I quadruple this.

[papayahed]

Opinions


Well, only if they don't agree with mine. :cornut:

[Calidore]

Ratings