Woman aiming to be world's fattest

[1n50mn14]

Link to article (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgonc-donna-simpson-attempting-to-become-worlds-fattest-woman-fc-20100315)

Why?
What does this say about the 'American stereotype' of fast food and obesity?
Could this be classed as a mental disorder? After all, over eating is a disorder just like bulimia and anorexia.

What is your take on this? Thoughts?

I am just disturbed and appalled. Especially that she's getting media coverage. Honestly. Put her in a closet and don't give her the attention she wants. That is just disturbing.

[blazeofglory]

Link to article (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgonc-donna-simpson-attempting-to-become-worlds-fattest-woman-fc-20100315)

Why?
What does this say about the 'American stereotype' of fast food and obesity?
Could this be classed as a mental disorder? After all, over eating is a disorder just like bulimia and anorexia.

What is your take on this? Thoughts?

I am just disturbed and appalled. Especially that she's getting media coverage. Honestly. Put her in a closet and don't give her the attention she wants. That is just disturbing.

This is a very good example and I feel that it must attract concerns for the issue. I take it a great disorder. Obesity is what I call standard deviation; something that must presage the worst in the society of the affluent and if this will not be in check it will cost nations billions of dollars. You have really raised an issue that makes us revisit this fact of fatness. Of course I myself feel concerned and may engage myself in aerobics from tomorrow.

[papayahed]

Link to article (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgonc-donna-simpson-attempting-to-become-worlds-fattest-woman-fc-20100315)

Why?
What does this say about the 'American stereotype' of fast food and obesity?
Could this be classed as a mental disorder? After all, over eating is a disorder just like bulimia and anorexia.

What is your take on this? Thoughts?

I am just disturbed and appalled. Especially that she's getting media coverage. Honestly. Put her in a closet and don't give her the attention she wants. That is just disturbing.

Whhhhaaaaaaaatttttt? She runs a website where men pay to watch her eat????

[Nightshade]

Umm sure she is hurting someone, her daughter and who is paying for her medical bills? Actually what is the policy on that? Is it live liver donations to alcoholics? If you keep destroying it you only get one after that if you don't 'straighten out and fly right' as it were you are getting nowt.
I think hers would be classed as self destructive behaviour rather than an eating disorder, right? Because over eating the disorder is compulsive, its not a conscious decisions but a need to eat.
And Ive said it before, men are seriously weird!

I think the guinness records people should refuse to allow her in the book, the same way they don't accept suicide attempts.

[Jozanny]

This is the age of personal autonomy, and niche markets, and there is always the rebellion against the living well syndrome, and some men really do have fetishes. Even now, in my state of health, age, and menopause, all I have to do is go to a web site, say I have a disability and use certain types of medical equipment, and I'd have a date in five minutes. When I was younger it sorely tempted me, but I knew it wouldn't be the right way to catch a boyfriend.

This woman will have her fans; it is the way modern life is, and the underside to normal has always been there. I accept it.

[Lokasenna]

It's a horrific sentiment, but I supppose she is free to do as she likes. That said, I'm glad she's doing it in America - I'd hate for my taxes to be footing her medical bills!

[BienvenuJDC]

It's a horrific sentiment, but I supppose she is free to do as she likes. That said, I'm glad she's doing it in America - I'd hate for my taxes to be footing her medical bills!

That is what it will come to. I support people's freedom, however, this is where I do not support the idea of absorbing the consequences of another's irresponsible actions.

[The Atheist]

What does this say about the 'American stereotype' of fast food and obesity?

I think it says more about the American desire for 15 minutes of fame.

[Nightshade]

Ive been thinking my earlier statment was a bit strong, I thought I should point out I am also similarly opposed to people trying to be skinny to the point of being unhealthy for the sake of it. put on or loose weight for health reasons yes, otherwise that drastically (( halfing or doubling body weight) no!

[Hurricane]

She could probably do to quarter her body weight...I mean, really...To be this overweight is unacceptable. I can understand being a fair amount overweight. Not everyone has the luxury of taking a couple hours out of their day to run or hit the gym, or to afford the healthiest foods, and that's fine. Not everyone has to be a world class athlete, but I'm sick and tired of people trying to justify the hugely obese and say that it's ok, or beautiful. They don't say her height, but to basically be 400+ pounds overweight? Ridiculous. It's inexcusable, and it's unhealthy.
This is pretty disgusting. This woman is going to kill herself in order to make a record book. Yeah, ok, she says she's healthy. Not being able to walk because you weigh too much is not healthy. It's irresponsible as a person, and especially as a mother. Is her little girl going to grow thinking that this kind of life is acceptable, or desirable?

[The Atheist]

Relevant story in today's papers here:

Kids may benefit from watching obese people on TV reality shows. (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10632494)

So, it could well be that while the stupid cow in question is going to ruin her and her kid's lives, she may be helping thousands of children who will be disgusted by her.

[Niamh]

There is seriously something wrong with the whole thing.

[Lulim]

at least, she decided for herself, contrary to this child (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3RPQHFt_g).

[Virgil]

I think it says more about the American desire for 15 minutes of fame.

It's that and making a buck off of her weight.

[applepie]

This article actually made me just a little sick. I don't know what it says about someone that you would choose to do something like that to yourself. I don't understand eating disorders of any kind really, but there is just something truly horrific about this whole thing. To actually strive to increase your weight by hundreds of pounds, and to attempt any claim of health when you have entrapped yourself in your own body... I just don't get it. What are things coming to???

[Gladys]

Losing extensive weight is so difficult for the obese, especially so if obese from childhood. Likely damage to the liver, pancreas and other organs makes matters worse.

Not withstanding, how entrepreneurial of Donna Simpson to be chasing the great American dream in such a novel way! I hopes she lives long enough to enjoy material success. Good luck to her.


http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgonc-donna-simpson-attempting-to-become-worlds-fattest-woman-fc-20100315

[The Atheist]

I hopes she lives long enough to enjoy material success.

Crikey, you've given me a great idea!

I could run an odds book with two options - pick the date she dies or the weight she dies at. Two tickets for the price of one, I reckon I can sell a load of that.

I'd be advising going short - an already insanely-obese woman looking to put on a several hundred pounds is a walking corpse. Pity her organs will all be shot.

[skib]

gross. i saw that article on yahoo and couldn't bring myself to read it/watch it, whatever it was. that's depressing. that's disgusting. no wonder the rest of the planet thinks my country is a bunch of slobs. does she think she'll be like homer simpson when she gets that fat, or what?

[1n50mn14]

I'll be back later tomorrow to reply to many of you, and add some more of my own thoughts, but for now, I'm glad to not be alone in my repulsion.

[qimissung]

I think it says more about the American desire for 15 minutes of fame.

Which was not actually intended as a bad thing:

http://www.slate.com/id/2240159

"Fifteen minutes of fame has had its 15 minutes of fame. Way more than 15 years of fame, actually. And its original meaning has been subtly but ineradicably distorted. When Andy Warhol uttered it in his faux-naive way (or real-naive—I could never really tell; I'm not sure even he could), he meant it, at least in part, as a celebratory observation, not an anti-celebrity thing. When he said "in the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes," he was pointing out how much fun that would be. Fame, in other words, would be as widely accessible a popular commodity as Campbell's soup. And, he implied, that's a good thing." Ron Rosenbaum

I included this quote because I hate to see what this woman was doing under the supposed auspices of garnering fame. What she is doing , while not illegal, is wrong, unhealthy, and mostly, sad.

[Nightshade]

here is a thought for you, would we all be as repuulsedif it was a skinny person going for world's skinniest, say a fully grown adult of average height and build but lets say already below average weight aiming to weigh 21 kg? ( that is approx 3 stone, which is 42 lbs and less than I weighed at the age of 6!)
Or would the attempt surley kill them?

[Hurricane]

here is a thought for you, would we all be as repuulsedif it was a skinny person going for world's skinniest, say a fully grown adult of average height and build but lets say already below average weight aiming to weigh 21 kg? ( that is approx 3 stone, which is 42 lbs and less than I weighed at the age of 6!)
Or would the attempt surley kill them?

I'd be pretty disgusted. In all honesty, probably not to quite the same extent as someone trying to be the world's fattest, but it's still gross and unhealthy (fatal) behavior.
And I don't think any average sized adult could weigh 42 lbs and still be alive. The worst I've heard of is people going from average weights of 150-170 down to 70-80 lbs (Concentration Camp Survivors, POWs), and they were all on the verge of death when they started their recovery.

[The Atheist]

... does she think ...

My guess is "NO".


here is a thought for you, would we all be as repuulsedif it was a skinny person going for world's skinniest,...

Absolutely.

[Heathcliff]

That is a tad ridiculous.
Personally, if she wants to eat herself to death that is fine by me.
Maybe I exaggerate, she could live through it. :nod:
Although I supposed we're agreed, it isn't healthy.

I feel sorry for her daughter. She would be the ashamed victim of many 'your mum' jokes.
:lol: :rofl: Sorry, I just couldn't resist saying it!!

[Satan]

Where's John Doe when you need him?

[applepie]

here is a thought for you, would we all be as repuulsedif it was a skinny person going for world's skinniest, say a fully grown adult of average height and build but lets say already below average weight aiming to weigh 21 kg? ( that is approx 3 stone, which is 42 lbs and less than I weighed at the age of 6!)
Or would the attempt surley kill them?

Yep, I would still be horribly disgusted. I'm a big fan of just being healthy. I don't push to be overly thin, but I also push to not allow yourself to become too overly large.

[The Comedian]

Oi Vay! What next? "Man vows to become world's stupidest human; will devote his life to playing Halo to the exclusion of all else"

[qimissung]

here is a thought for you, would we all be as repuulsedif it was a skinny person going for world's skinniest, say a fully grown adult of average height and build but lets say already below average weight aiming to weigh 21 kg? ( that is approx 3 stone, which is 42 lbs and less than I weighed at the age of 6!)
Or would the attempt surley kill them?


There's a name for that. It's called anorexia.

[Nightshade]

I thought anorexia was directly linked to believing you are heavier than you are. I meant loose weight for fame type thing.

[qimissung]

I knew what you meant, Nightshade. My thought was that it's sick in whatever guise it's found in. But I retract the statement and secede from the discussion.

[Nightshade]

hmm no do withdraw, I also agree its sick whatever I was just wondering if including myself the automatic YUCK THATS WRONG! is somewhat increased by social conditioning? I mean I really really have a problem looking at really skinny ( not even that unhealthlily skinny people and not shuddering.

[qimissung]

Like this guy? (sorry DJ Qualls). It's always pained me to watch him in movies.

http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/DJ_Qualls - 6 - Hustle_and_Flow.jpg

[soundofmusic]

I noticed he revealing pictures were about 200 pounds thinner than her current weight. I think she is finding a way to get people to pay her rent, buy high quality food and stay on disability. My guess, is that she used this promo to get the site moving; and will use all of these suckers money to get a gastrobypass and a boob job; next well be seeing her on a girls gone wild video:smilielol5:

[DanielBenoit]

Ugh, I watched a news report on this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVBK6pBGwk&NR=1) and get this:

-She doesn't "buy into" all of that stuff about "diseases from getting fat".

-She has two kids.

-She gave birth to one of them at about 500 or so pounds.

-Her website where she posts her "videos" is clearly pornographic.

-She gets paid to do this (as you well know). AND people even send her food!!!! (You can't send food to starving child in Africa, but you can send it to the most selfish women in the country?)

-She appears to get most of her income from her subscribers. She also appears to spend most of it on her 10,000 calorie meals.

What really pisses me off about all this is that she's doing this because she likes the status of feeling sexually admired by other men. In the newscast, she euphemistically expresses her delight with her semi-pornstar status amongst men with fetishes on the internet.

Now if she didn't have kids, that's fine. She can post videos of her jiggling her roles and eating herself to death all she wants, I don't care. But to sacrifice your own motherhood for something so low, is appalling and sickening. And if she starts becoming immobile or gets a very dangerous disease or anything that would prevent her from doing her motherly duties, her children should be taken away by child protection services for negligence. It's fine if you want to eat yourself to death, and it's perfectly fine if you're a mom and are even terribly overweight or have diabetes or whatnot. That's perfectly fine, I still believe that you're a good mom. But this women, who's purposely leading herself into a place in which her children are to be awfully neglected, that's not acceptable. You can be 300 pounds with type-two diabetes and still be a good and caring mom, but when you're so purposely and meaningfully doing this (at 600 pounds already!), something must be done.

[The Atheist]

...something must be done.


It is - it's Darwin at work.

She's going to die and someone - hopefully not quite as dim as its mother - will bring her kid up.

Has to be an improvment; pity she didn't do it before having any kids.

[Janine]

Ugh, I watched a news report on this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVBK6pBGwk&NR=1) and get this:

-She doesn't "buy into" all of that stuff about "diseases from getting fat".

-She has two kids.

-She gave birth to one of them at about 500 or so pounds.

-Her website where she posts her "videos" is clearly pornographic.

-She gets paid to do this (as you well know). AND people even send her food!!!! (You can't send food to starving child in Africa, but you can send it to the most selfish women in the country?)

-She appears to get most of her income from her subscribers. She also appears to spend most of it on her 10,000 calorie meals.

What really pisses me off about all this is that she's doing this because she likes the status of feeling sexually admired by other men. In the newscast, she euphemistically expresses her delight with her semi-pornstar status amongst men with fetishes on the internet.

Now if she didn't have kids, that's fine. She can post videos of her jiggling her roles and eating herself to death all she wants, I don't care. But to sacrifice your own motherhood for something so low, is appalling and sickening. And if she starts becoming immobile or gets a very dangerous disease or anything that would prevent her from doing her motherly duties, her children should be taken away by child protection services for negligence. It's fine if you want to eat yourself to death, and it's perfectly fine if you're a mom and are even terribly overweight or have diabetes or whatnot. That's perfectly fine, I still believe that you're a good mom. But this women, who's purposely leading herself into a place in which her children are to be awfully neglected, that's not acceptable. You can be 300 pounds with type-two diabetes and still be a good and caring mom, but when you're so purposely and meaningfully doing this (at 600 pounds already!), something must be done.

Amen, Daniel! You said everything I wanted to say. I found her nausiating and incredibly self-centered and selfish. Who would applaud this sort of unexceptable behavior in an adult? It's total nonsense. If she did reach the 1000 mark she would be bedridden and furthermore she would not be able to get through doorways or even vacate her house. Awhile back there was a man like this who wished to get married and he dieted down to half his weight. Before that he was carried from place to place on a flat bed or sort of board. Who, in their right minds, would want to live like that? This is definitely a mental disorder.

[BienvenuJDC]

Anyone who intentionally puts their self into a situation of being disabled should get nothing... at least not without intervention to correct the disability...

[Jozanny]

Look, I do not approve of what this woman is doing--there are really obese people in my aunt's husband's family and they are probably going to die, but it seems to me that most of you are simply taking pleasure in sniping over gluttony--since it goes back to the seven deadly sins.

The price of a liberal society is the notoriety that comes with it; she is only going to get more coverage to satisfy both her fringe and the prissy tskers. Maybe this makes her happy. Does it mean you should pay her medical bills? Not necessarily, but you've already bailed out Wall Street financiers many times over, and perhaps she'll make enough money to pay for breaking her walls in and building the casket.

[Wilde woman]

There is seriously something wrong with the whole thing.

There are many things wrong with this woman. I think she opens up a whole discussion on the many things that are wrong with America, but we won't go there. I just hope my taxes are not funding her repulsive goal.

May I make a comparison? She reminds of Heidi Montag - deliberately altering her body for the sake of fame, fueled and funded by those who either 1) outright support her or 2) claim to be too scandalized to turn away. She's really the poor people's Heidi Montag (albeit with kids...yikes!).

Honestly, I think the media makes the situation worse by paying it so much attention; it simply makes her claim to celebrity look more authentic. When people are willing to do anything for fame, I think we should deny them the attention they so hungrily seek, and then let them continue to exercise their freedom of expression.

[Nightshade]

There are many things wrong with this woman. I think she opens up a whole discussion on the many things that are wrong with America, but we won't go there. I just hope my taxes are not funding her repulsive goal.

May I make a comparison? She reminds of Heidi Montag - deliberately altering her body for the sake of fame, fueled and funded by those who either 1) outright support her or 2) claim to be too scandalized to turn away. She's really the poor people's Heidi Montag (albeit with kids...yikes!).

Honestly, I think the media makes the situation worse by paying it so much attention; it simply makes her claim to celebrity look more authentic. When people are willing to do anything for fame, I think we should deny them the attention they so hungrily seek, and then let them continue to exercise their freedom of expression.

I don't know who Heidi Montag is but your right it does bring up the question of what is wrong not with America but with our society ( as the human one) as a whole. Why are we so driven by the desire for fame and adulation ( is that the right word?) of complete starngers that we are willing to push ourselves to the point of detah and mess with the way we look just for the attention. Why can we not just be happy with who we are and what we have? Have we always been this way? Or is this the so called diease of modern times?

[Dirtbag]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1257850/Super-sized-mother-determined-worlds-fattest-woman-years.html

It seems that an array of strange coincidences have led her to become the way she is now. With such an unorthodox lifestyle, it appears that she's suffering from some sort of a self-destructive or egoistic mental illness but I think what she's doing is more comparable to what people do when they quit their jobs and pursue a passion of theirs. She oddly enough has built an audience to help sustain her vocation of chowing down... Her mother approved of and encouraged this gluttony, her boyfriend still does, her first husband did, and thousands of men admire her for it. The most crucial difference in idealogy that seems to be causing most of the repulsive feelings here is that most of you think that her health will continue to deteriorate. I guess for valid reason what with all of these scientists and doctors and television commercials preaching proper living. From our view it seems that she is hedonistically wrecking herself for attention, but from her experiences she correlates our alternative lifestyle to the death of her friend and to her failed adolescent ambitions. Regarding her role as a mother... well, she's making cash and she's preserving her mental well-being. That should count for something. Happiness is a lovely thing in a mother.

Btw, I thought the article you (BeccaT) posted was pretty hilarious... I guess that makes me bad person. But honestly:

"My favorite food is sushi, but unlike others I can sit and eat 70 big pieces of sushi in one go," she told London's Daily Mail in an interview published Monday. "I do love cakes and sweet things, doughnuts are my favorite."

lol, this isn't news.

[1n50mn14]

Back to this:

What I think I find so disturbing about this is the fact that it is occurring in North America, a place where we are all free to live out our dreams- why is is that somebody's dream, when they could do ANYTHING with their life, is to become the world's fattest person? Why, and seemingly only in North America, do we endorse this behavior? Why is this woman not currently being counseled by a psychiatrist? This should be an episode on Intervention! When there are so many wonderful things that we have the opportunity to do with our lives, although North America isn't perfect, why should she strive to become somebody ill, generally found repulsive to society, and overall 'useless' (she can't walk, run, etc, and though she supports herself, it is by mildly pornographic means, does she have any education? etc.)

[Jozanny]

Ah, Becca, for some reason this whole debate has a whiff of Cartesian dualism about it, the line between liberty and social constraint, material behavior versus the metaphysical independence of the soul. I heard today that hospitals in my state are going to legally discriminate against smokers and not hire them, and I am not entirely comfortable with punishing people for not doing what is good for them:

I was on the attendant care program for ten years, and in 06 I was abused and couldn't take it anymore and chucked the whole system. My building managers sent a team up to my door to try to kick me out over it, and I beat them back, once again, but I am not being entirely rational either, as if my power chair goes down before the new one is delivered, I am about as helpless as a slug. Do you think a psychiatrist should be counseling me not to fight to keep my personal autonomy as I see fit?

These are not very easy ethical issues.

[Gladys]

Do you think a psychiatrist should be counseling me not to fight to keep my personal autonomy as I see fit?

Within legal bounds, the freedom to choose one's own course - every moment or every decade - is precious. Unless others are harmed, society and the law should mind their own business.

[Jozanny]

Well, I also do not feel quite comfortable saying this woman has mental health problems and should be forced to seek treatment. I have mental health problems, and I have been in and out of counseling since my parents divorce. My life has not gotten more holistic and stable as a result of these mainly voluntary interventions. This woman needs to find her own way. It is for her to decide if she is not really esteeming herself and building her self-worth.

If she eats herself to death it is sad, but it is her choice, even if she eats herself into a permanent chronic condition, and if she does she won't live that long.

As to what it says about the US, we're a media saturated, shallow, materialistic empty society--but we still seem to keep making history. When Prince Charles asks the next black prime minister to run his country, then give me a nudge, okay?

[TheFifthElement]

But to sacrifice your own motherhood for something so low, is appalling and sickening. And if she starts becoming immobile or gets a very dangerous disease or anything that would prevent her from doing her motherly duties, her children should be taken away by child protection services for negligence....You can be 300 pounds with type-two diabetes and still be a good and caring mom, but when you're so purposely and meaningfully doing this (at 600 pounds already!), something must be done.
I'm curious, should people who partake in dangerous sports like mountaineering or B.A.S.E jumping, or luge or motocross; or people who undertake dangerous events like climbing Everest or travelling to the North Pole have their children taken away from them? In a sense what they're doing is no different, they are putting themselves in danger - pushing the boundaries of what it is possible to do with the human body, you might say - at the potential risk of their child's upbringing. Why do we look at 'adventurers' positively, but condemn this woman?


As to what it says about the US, we're a media saturated, shallow, materialistic empty society--but we still seem to keep making history. When Prince Charles asks the next black prime minister to run his country, then give me a nudge, okay?
Hey Jozy, you know we still have a Queen, she's not dead yet. And unlike the US we have had a female leader. Heck centuries ago ;)

[Revolte]

What she is doing , while not illegal, is wrong, unhealthy, and mostly, sad.

I wouldn't say it's wrong. But I would say it's pretty damn stupid. Having a kid while she risks her life for a prize. What a lucky child to have such an obsessive mommy.

[Revolte]

I'm curious, should people who partake in dangerous sports like mountaineering or B.A.S.E jumping, or luge or motocross; or people who undertake dangerous events like climbing Everest or travelling to the North Pole have their children taken away from them? In a sense what they're doing is no different, they are putting themselves in danger - pushing the boundaries of what it is possible to do with the human body, you might say - at the potential risk of their child's upbringing. Why do we look at 'adventurers' positively, but condemn this woman?


they dont deserve to have their kids taken away from them and neither does this lady. But does the kid deserve to have her mom taken from her for whatever reason this lady is getting so much of her chomp chomp on?

[TheFifthElement]

they dont deserve to have their kids taken away from them and neither does this lady. But does the kid deserve to have her mom taken from her for whatever reason this lady is getting so much of her chomp chomp on?

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from but surely you can say that about all aspects of life. Life is risky. Thousands of people are killed in road traffic accidents, and with most accidents you can say: "if such and such hadn't done this they'd still be alive" so would you say, "if Mum had walked to the shop she still would be alive today, does the kid deserve to have her Mum taken from her just because her Mum couldn't be bothered walking today"? It's equally valid.

I'm not passing judgement either way, not at this point. What piques my curiosity is the question of why this woman's actions are generally judged to be immoral, especially when people take all sorts of risks with their own safety and no one blinks an eye or, in some cases, deem it admirable. Is this because she is choosing the live outside the social norm, and chooses to reject advice about what is supposed to be 'good for her'? And if so, why is it that some people can live outside the social norm and be considered admirable (adventurers for example, no one seems to give two hoots about their children) and others are not? It seems a very curious state of affairs.

[Indyben]

As a person that was bullied at school for being a bit overwieght, I can say that this woman needs help. Everyone challenges themselves to do something at some point in their life, but usually their goal is inspiring or beneficial. This is just another log to the fire of the obesity "epidemic" as they are calling it, and giving the people who generalise people that are obese as people that eat 1000 pounds of Mcdonald's a day, more ammunition. I'm just glad that this report is on a website that most kids won't go one, because it will just give them further insults for the slightly larger kids at school.

[Maryd.]

Yes Indy, last year I took control of my life and lost 16 kilos in 10 months... It was hard work and I hated it, but I had to do it for health reasons. This woman will have serious health issues in the near future... Take it from somone who knows.

[Indyben]

I do. She thinks she's not hurting anyone but she hasn't taken into consideration the impact it can have on her, her daughter and everyone else around her.

[Maryd.]

I do. She thinks she's not hurting anyone but she hasn't taken into consideration the impact it can have on her, her daughter and everyone else around her.

This is true, it can affect the whole family. It is sad,what people will do for attention. I hope she snaps out of it and thinks twice... But something is telling me she won't. She'll learn the hard way I guess.

I have managed to put 6 kilos back on in 4 months of not working out as much. So I'll have to get back on track...

[1n50mn14]

I'm not passing judgement either way, not at this point. What piques my curiosity is the question of why this woman's actions are generally judged to be immoral, especially when people take all sorts of risks with their own safety and no one blinks an eye or, in some cases, deem it admirable.

I agree with you on that one, and I can't quite put my finger on what it is about this situation that galls me so badly. Will ponder if I am just being judgmental, and then I'll come back to the conversation.