a phone

[virginiawang]

What is a phone? By the definition of the word, phone, it is a mechanical device that connects people by the voices they make. It is a good device, a marvelous one among all kinds of devices you can give a name of, but when it starts making unwanted buzzing sounds made by flies trying to bump into it with their utmost effort, it becomes a source of trouble. I do not like my phone when it rings strenuously before the sound dies off after a long while. I must endure the sound before it stops.
However I do not want to dislodge the battery of the phone, for reasons of my own. I must tolerate the sounds at present.

[papayahed]

Why don't you turn the ringer off?

[virginiawang]

Who can teach me how to choose undesirable numbers, and make my phone silent when these numbers appear on my phone screen? I do not want my phone to be always silent.

[Lokasenna]

I hate the contraption - before I went to university, I didn't even know my own number, which was wonderful because it meant that I could phone out (usually in an emergency) but no one could disturb me. I always figured that if I was in the mood to talk, I'd be near the landline.

Nowadays, I know my number, but when I go back home for the holidays, my mobile still tends to get abandoned for the duration - if anyone needs me, they know the landline number!:rant:

[virginiawang]

I do not have a home phone.

[papayahed]

Are you speaking in metaphorically?

[virginiawang]

I was speaking the truth. I do not have a home phone.

[papayahed]

I was speaking the truth. I do not have a home phone.

I meant about the ringing. Were you speaking metaphorically about the ringing and enduring the noise?

[virginiawang]

I was talking about my cell phone. I wish I could know how to better use it, for example to bar unwanted calls.

[Nightshade]

Really blocking and banning numbers depends on the type of phone you have, brand etc. or You just just switch it to silent vibbrate and just check it every so often and ring back calls you want to take and ignore everyone else.
I HATE my phone with vengeance and tend to swear at it every time it rings, so instead I have one of my favourite songs as a ring tone so at least its a semi pleasant interruption. Though often I will turn it off its just simpler.

[The Atheist]

I was talking about my cell phone. I wish I could know how to better use it, for example to bar unwanted calls.

Read the instruction booklet. It will tell you how to do it, or if you don't have that, contact the customer service department of the manufacturer.

[Nax]

Buy a walkie talkie? lol

[virginiawang]

I have adjusted the settings of my phone, so it will never ring or vibrate.
Those who try to call me will have to wait until a mechanical sound says, " The number you dialed is not answering. Please wait and try agan."
I like my phone now, more than I ever did.

[Emil Miller]

I loathe mobile phones. You are sitting in a restaurant having an interesting conversation and your interlocutor's phone rings. You are sitting on a train reading something interesting and the person sitting opposite gets a call. Ok. c'est la vie, but to walk along any street and see countless people engaged in pointless conversation is literally soul destroying and an insult to the intelligence. **** mobile phones. Grow up, get real and stop being a Zombie.

[Scheherazade]

interlocutorPlease say no more!

:D

[MarkBastable]

I loathe mobile phones. You are sitting in a restaurant having an interesting conversation and your interlocutor's phone rings. You are sitting on a train reading something interesting and the person sitting opposite gets a call. Ok. c'est la vie, but to walk along any street and see countless people engaged in pointless conversation is literally soul destroying and an insult to the intelligence. **** mobile phones. Grow up, get real and stop being a Zombie.


It's a b*tch having to share the planet with other people, isn't it?

[soundofmusic]

I have this rule: I own my phone, it does not own me. I plug my home line to my caller id; when the Id is flashing and I am making my way to the area, I check it. If I want to talk to the person, I return their call.

Same thing with my cell. I only turn it on when I am out. I check the caller id; if I don't know them, I don't answer. Every once in a while I indulge and answer that strange number and someone asks if I am Bernies Pizza...

If a person wants contact or to hear noise, turn on you tube or Lit Net..:p

[Emil Miller]

It's a b*tch having to share the planet with other people, isn't it?


"It's worse having to share it with a herd of sheep."

[papayahed]

It's tough finding a good interlocutor.:aureola:

[The Atheist]

"It's worse having to share it with a herd of sheep."

I always think ants are a much better analogy for humankind.

[Nightshade]

I always think ants are a much better analogy for humankind.

I prefer termites, especially on match days when all these swarms of people appear from little alleyways like termites escaping a rotten table leg!

[Emil Miller]

It's tough finding a good interlocutor.:aureola:
Nope, there are lots of them as in the Cambridge Dictionary's definition given below.

Definition
interlocutor noun
/ˌɪn.təˈlɒk.jʊ.tər//-t ̬ɚˈlɑː.kjə.t ̬ɚ/ n [C] formal • someone who is involved in a conversation

[papayahed]

Nope, there are lots of them as in the Cambridge Dictionary's definition given below.

Definition
interlocutor noun
/ˌɪn.təˈlɒk.jʊ.tər//-t ̬ɚˈlɑː.kjə.t ̬ɚ/ n [C] formal • someone who is involved in a conversation


My Merriam-Webster:
a man in the middle of the line in a minstrel show who questions the end men and acts as leader

[Wilde woman]

Cell phones should be banned from schools. Yes, banned. I cannot count the times I've seen students texting or playing games on their phones in class. As a tutor, I've observed students texting under the table (thinking I didn't notice :rolleyes5:) when we're having a ONE-ON-ONE session. Etiquette, anyone?

I read a statistic somewhere that claimed on average, American high school students text about 200 times per hour. Per hour?? I immediately dismissed the source. Then, the very next day, I noticed that one of my middle school students was unusually focused. When I asked him why, he said that his cell phone had been taken away from him and he wouldn't get it back until he raised his grade in English. But here's the clincher. The reason he'd lost his phone privileges? He's texted over 50,000 times that month and had gone over his limit.

Can you imagine doing anything (save, perhaps, breathing) 50,000 times a month? That number completely astounds me.

So, I say ban cell phones from schools. I'll bet that half these kids don't even know their own home phone numbers by heart.

[Emil Miller]

My Merriam-Webster:
a man in the middle of the line in a minstrel show who questions the end men and acts as leader

I never hold conversations with members of minstrel shows.

[Nightshade]

Cell phones should be banned from schools. Yes, banned. I cannot count the times I've seen students texting or playing games on their phones in class. .
Hmm The thing that weirds me out about Egypt is the fact it is normal for someone to cut you off when yo are having a converstaion with them to answer there mobile, you are expected to keep your mobile n and onyou all day at work ( and I work in a school) and people keep getting annoyed at me when I dont answer , and once when I forgot to switch it off and it went off in class, all the students inssited I answer it The concept of just ignore it or refuse the call was terrible to them!
And the number of egyptians that ring me up to say hello while I am at work :brickwall: but they are getting it now I think...I won't answer my phone if I am at work, unless it is work related!

[papayahed]

I never hold conversations with members of minstrel shows.

That's what I'm saying.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Cell phones should be banned from schools. Yes, banned. I cannot count the times I've seen students texting or playing games on their phones in class. As a tutor, I've observed students texting under the table (thinking I didn't notice :rolleyes5:) when we're having a ONE-ON-ONE session. Etiquette, anyone?

I read a statistic somewhere that claimed on average, American high school students text about 200 times per hour. Per hour?? I immediately dismissed the source. Then, the very next day, I noticed that one of my middle school students was unusually focused. When I asked him why, he said that his cell phone had been taken away from him and he wouldn't get it back until he raised his grade in English. But here's the clincher. The reason he'd lost his phone privileges? He's texted over 50,000 times that month and had gone over his limit.

Can you imagine doing anything (save, perhaps, breathing) 50,000 times a month? That number completely astounds me.

So, I say ban cell phones from schools. I'll bet that half these kids don't even know their own home phone numbers by heart.

Again, I'm with you on banning phones from schools, absolute pain in the a$$. I am a little shocked by those numbers, but I don't know why because most students (especially those say 14-16) are seriously addicted to them and are constantly getting them out in class, every five bloody minutes. They are the biggest single cause of disruption period.

[Wilde woman]

most students (especially those say 14-16) are seriously addicted to them and are constantly getting them out in class, every five bloody minutes. They are the biggest single cause of disruption period.

I want to just confiscate them all and watch them twiddle their thumbs when they actually have to pay attention or (God forbid!) actually THINK when they're in class.

But, in their defense, I think texting may be the single reason that kids are still semi-literate. (With emphasis on the semi.)


The thing that weirds me out about Egypt is the fact it is normal for someone to cut you off when yo are having a converstaion with them to answer there mobile, you are expected to keep your mobile n and onyou all day at work ( and I work in a school) and people keep getting annoyed at me when I dont answer

Yes, you're right. Adults are guilty of bad phone etiquette too. It really weirds me out when I see someone walking down the road, apparently ranting and gesturing to nobody. Then, I realize they have a bluetooth plugged into their ears, and I get flashbacks to Fahrenheit 451.

[soundofmusic]

I want my daughter to carry her phone everywhere for safety. There were so many times when school closed early for weather, or power outages, or the people who were supposed to pick her up from school didn't get there. One time, I picked her up just as it was turning dark, from a deserted school because the teachers aide that did her after school care found out her daughter was in the delivery room...Kids need phones, particularly in a world where parents can't be at home all of the time.

It's a parents job to teach their kids phone etiquette; or maybe not pay for the messaging and computer features.:idea:

[Scheherazade]

constantly getting them out in class, every five bloody minutes. They are the biggest single cause of disruption period.I don't understand this. Can you not ban the use during the classes?

[Emil Miller]

I don't understand this. Can you not ban the use during the classes?

...ban the use during the classes? My god, what ever happened to human rights?

[Scheherazade]

...ban the use during the classes? My god, what ever happened to human rights?Oh, Brian... I am only saying that because it must be interfering with the movies shown during the classes...

You know how it feels if a mobile rings during a movie... or when your interlocutor stops a sublime chat to answer their phone.

[LitNetIsGreat]

I don't understand this. Can you not ban the use during the classes?

They are banned during the classes.

[Paulclem]

Unfortunate or not, mobiles are a fact of life. The safety aspect alone means I want my kids to have theirs with them. I too, with a family and some elderly relatives, have my phone constantly on - though no-one ever phones usually.

I'm not suggesting that this should be the only method used, but lots of phones have the capability to be used in education now. How about texting your answers to this address... which is an internet site which displays the words. I've seen the demos.

As for phone etiquette - set your own etiquette for your friends and family. What others do is not really of concern.

[The Atheist]

Cell phones should be banned from schools.

They are from almost all schools during class, plus I know of several where they are banned from the school grounds entirely.

On the other hand, my daughter* attends a Junior High which allows pupils to have them sitting on their desks during the day and they are free to use them non-disruptively even during lessons.

Unsurprisingly, their usage levels appear to be very low.



*who is disgusted that she's the "only one" in her words, at the whole school who doesn't have a cellphone.

[soundofmusic]

Unfortunate or not, mobiles are a fact of life. The safety aspect alone means I want my kids to have theirs with them. I too, with a family and some elderly relatives, have my phone constantly on - though no-one ever phones usually.

I'm not suggesting that this should be the only method used, but lots of phones have the capability to be used in education now. How about texting your answers to this address... which is an internet site which displays the words. I've seen the demos.

As for phone etiquette - set your own etiquette for your friends and family. What others do is not really of concern.
I agree 100%, I also sometimes need to contact my daughter as to a change of plans. Also, some schools have used cellular phone texting as a way of letting the students know of threats in the school.
Is cell phone messaging a sort of cultural thing? I notice that most of my friends don't seem to be able to live without constantly messaging; but they are the sort of people who never plan ahead. Never make meal plans, never carry nappies for junior...always needing to depend on a friend for their next move.

They are from almost all schools during class, plus I know of several where they are banned from the school grounds entirely.

On the other hand, my daughter* attends a Junior High which allows pupils to have them sitting on their desks during the day and they are free to use them non-disruptively even during lessons.

Unsurprisingly, their usage levels appear to be very low.



*who is disgusted that she's the "only one" in her words, at the whole school who doesn't have a cellphone.

Well, get that girl a phone, Dad:hurray: I wonder how often they lose their phones or loan them to friends?

[billl]

I read a statistic somewhere that claimed on average, American high school students text about 200 times per hour. Per hour?? I immediately dismissed the source. Then, the very next day, I noticed that one of my middle school students was unusually focused. When I asked him why, he said that his cell phone had been taken away from him and he wouldn't get it back until he raised his grade in English. But here's the clincher. The reason he'd lost his phone privileges? He's texted over 50,000 times that month and had gone over his limit.

Can you imagine doing anything (save, perhaps, breathing) 50,000 times a month? That number completely astounds me.

So, I say ban cell phones from schools. I'll bet that half these kids don't even know their own home phone numbers by heart.

50,000 times per month would be about 70 times per hour. That's better than 200 times per hour, but the calculation would include the hours during which the child sleeps, bathes, dresses, etc.

I think there is a good chance that the 50,000 refers to the number of characters that might be texted per month (and that the 200 might refer to the same thing). I can't be sure, but having seen actual high school children here and there pretty much most days of the week, they don't seem to be sending more than one text per minute, much less the number per minute that would be required to make up for the time spent sleeping, bathing, etc.

So it is maybe less alarming. But maybe not--50,000 key-presses per month (or 200 per hour) is a lot of time spent pressing buttons, definitely...

[Jozanny]

I have trouble using cells. Almost purchased a plan last year but gave up, though when I toppled last summer, if the hypothetical item had been within reach I would not have been down so long. They are just too small for my good hand, and I've gone without since my writer friends complained about them in the late 90's.

[soundofmusic]

I have trouble using cells. Almost purchased a plan last year but gave up, though when I toppled last summer, if the hypothetical item had been within reach I would not have been down so long. They are just too small for my good hand, and I've gone without since my writer friends complained about them in the late 90's.

Do you have one of those push button alarms around your neck. The problem is that it is only good at home. Don't they make larger phones?

[Jozanny]

I am going to get a Life Alert if they make reasonable terms for the disabled. I should go to the site now, in fact, but even a larger button cell gives me trouble music; my spasticity kicks a little in my good hand with palm toward the face, and I only used the cell my sister gave me twice, during the primary. The movers probably stole it but if I do find it I will sell it.

I am just not that big on this particular gadget, although the kindle uses cell technology, and if they could adapt it or program it for emergency services I guess that would be an added safety. I sleep with the ereader, eat with it, asked if it would like my power of attorney, and it put the request in my documents archive ;).

[billl]

Jozanny, that is a fantastic idea about the e-reader. I'm sure you aren't the only person who can make particular use of it because of its at-hand convenience. Why not send out a few emails about that?

[Nightshade]

I want my daughter to carry her phone everywhere for safety. There were so many times when school closed early for weather, or power outages, or the people who were supposed to pick her up from school didn't get there. One time, I picked her up just as it was turning dark, from a deserted school because the teachers aide that did her after school care found out her daughter was in the delivery room...Kids need phones, particularly in a world where parents can't be at home all of the time.

It's a parents job to teach their kids phone etiquette; or maybe not pay for the messaging and computer features.:idea:
Actually we had something slightly similatr hapen yesterday, a kid with no mobile, or rather no credit wanted to use the admistration phone to ring his mum as he had got forgotten off his bus ( we have afterschool support caalsses and activity sessions on a thursday and he wasn't supposed to stay this week but the bus left without him as he forgot to tell anyone he was staying, this is 14 year old we are talking about not a 6 year old ) . Anyway we had a parents meeting in the hall he would have had go through the answer was no, so I just lent him my phone to make the call. ANd reallly as long as the school provides a way to ring parents kids don't need pbhones at school! ( The school also has a pile of pay as you go phones that we let kids ring parents from when they need to)


I am going to get a Life Alert if they make reasonable terms for the disabled. I should go to the site now, in fact, but even a larger button cell gives me trouble music; my spasticity kicks a little in my good hand with palm toward the face, and I only used the cell my sister gave me twice, during the primary. The movers probably stole it but if I do find it I will sell it.

I am just not that big on this particular gadget, although the kindle uses cell technology, and if they could adapt it or program it for emergency services I guess that would be an added safety. I sleep with the ereader, eat with it, asked if it would like my power of attorney, and it put the request in my documents archive ;).

What about touch screen technology? I mean I find it increadibly annoying and i hae serious trouble with it but I heard it is supposed to be more acceseable? would that behelpful? But if you don't mind me asking don't you have trouble with the kindle? One of the things that put me off it are the full tiny keyboard I felt it would be too much like texting whihc i hate as my fingers constatly hit the wrong buttons!

[Katy North]

I doubt a touch screen would be much better... I'm constantly tapping the wrong button on mine because for some reason my fingers haven't centered right despite multiple calibrations...

[LitNetIsGreat]

I can understand that parents want to keep their children safe, but if it is that essential they take them then maybe they can be left in the office or some other arrangement? For me there is no place for them in the classroom and ideally in school altogether. Schools have been around long before mobile phones and somehow people managed to cope without them.



On the other hand, my daughter* attends a Junior High which allows pupils to have them sitting on their desks during the day and they are free to use them non-disruptively even during lessons.


I can't for the life of me get around this thinking. For me there is no such thing as using them "non-disruptively" if they are there, they are a disruption. I get your point about not creating an issue out of it and they won't necessarily want to use them (the old reverse psychology thing) but having 28 phones, 28 mp3s and all manner of whatnot lying around the classroom just seems quite ridiculous to me, like some sort of electronic armistice! Crazy.

The reality is probably that they couldn't enforce the ban on them in class so they gave in to this nonsense.

[wessexgirl]

I'm with you Neely. :iagree: If anyone gets one out in the Library, they have to leave. I know I sound like a nag sometimes, to the point that I'm boring myself, but if the students don't follow the rules then they're out. I don't expect a silent Library, but I have rules they have to follow, and if you want to mess around with your phone, then you do it elsewhere.

I have a phone myself, but I never use it. I never wanted one, but my kids thought it was a good idea to have one for emergencies. Unfortunately, I don't really know how to use it, as it sits in my bag, but I can't be bothered messing around with it. I don't know how people managed before they came along :rolleyes5:. It's worrying for the future, as who knows what damage is being done to this generation who can't seem to exist without a phone stuck to their ear, my kids included.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Yes in a library - how rude. Nearly every time I go into a library there always seems to be someone ranting on a mobile. Thankfully though it does seem to be a minority in comparison to other places such as public transport. I mean here it seems that everyone wants to share their lives (and music) with everybody else - as if anyone's interested? Yes, I have a general utter dislike of phones, as if you hadn't have guessed and I fear this thread is not bringing out the best in me, but I see them as quite awful little devices and at times the utter bane of my life.

[soundofmusic]

As to mobile phones:
Yes, 45 years ago when I went to elementary school and we got out early; I walked home. In those days, there were stay at home moms, there was no bussing children 30 miles away to desegregate schools, and we went to school with teachers and staff who knew us and watched out for us...

Fast forward, It's 2010.

Parents both work. People get murdered next to the cafeteria and 50 children take pictures with their phones before security notices. Our children are being sent to another city for magnet schools or to cross racial barriers. The pay phones in the school halls are vandalized and seldom work. The schools are so large that one student, left behind does not draw the attention of the staff...often most of the staff leaves before extracurricular activities end.

I go everywhere with my phone; I insist my daughter goes everywhere with her phone...If I could, I'd give her a tazer also; but....:nonod:

[virginiawang]

I need my phone.

[Paulclem]

We have a programme in the UK called Grumpy Old Men, and a sister one called Grumpy Old Women where they moan in an amusing way about modern life.

Perhaps we could have Grumpy Old Litnet thread. I think it would be a hit. :biggrin5:

I too find phones annoying when misused, and I'm sure kids in school are a pain in the butt using them in lesson.

But, how else can you leave an annoying picture on someone's wallpaper, or alter their ringtone to something embarrassing. The fun we've had - Except once I had a sound clip of me screaming - I pride myself on my ability to make loud noises - as my ringtone. I was invigilating a GCSE Exam and my wife phoned me...on purpose...That was somewhat embarrassing.

But on balance phones are conveniant and fun. I know - schools should have a phone disabler machine - I'll patent it - that scrambles a mobile for... an hour. perhaps in the form of a gun that the teacher can draw and fire at the offending machine. I think it woud be a hit. :biggrin5:

Or maybe a no-phone zone - an area that won't send or receive a signal. Can it be difficult to set up? We have such a dead zone in our house...

[LitNetIsGreat]

Good idea. Mrs Neely says that I should be on that show as it is, don't know why...:prrr:


I need my phone.

No you don't.


As to mobile phones:
Yes, 45 years ago when I went to elementary school and we got out early; I walked home. In those days, there were stay at home moms, there was no bussing children 30 miles away to desegregate schools, and we went to school with teachers and staff who knew us and watched out for us...

Fast forward, It's 2010.

Parents both work. People get murdered next to the cafeteria and 50 children take pictures with their phones before security notices. Our children are being sent to another city for magnet schools or to cross racial barriers. The pay phones in the school halls are vandalized and seldom work. The schools are so large that one student, left behind does not draw the attention of the staff...often most of the staff leaves before extracurricular activities end.

I go everywhere with my phone; I insist my daughter goes everywhere with her phone...If I could, I'd give her a tazer also; but...

I can sympathise but all of that is another big issue entirely. Present society seems bad, and it is at times, but I wonder how much of it is blown out of all proportion by the media and co and how people naturally look to the past through tinted glasses. Plus notice how the option out of society's ills is always to purchase something? Anyway, all of that is another issue, and had nothing to do with the role of an educator whose primary role is to teach, any more than it has to do with a dentist who's only paid to fix teeth. I know that from a classroom perspective, 28 phones, 28 mp3 players (and now 28 tasers:svengo:) all going off at the same time is not an ideal environment in which to attempt to teach. We have to draw the line somewhere.

[The Atheist]

I know - schools should have a phone disabler machine - I'll patent it - that scrambles a mobile for... an hour. perhaps in the form of a gun that the teacher can draw and fire at the offending machine. I think it woud be a hit. :biggrin5:

Or maybe a no-phone zone - an area that won't send or receive a signal. Can it be difficult to set up? We have such a dead zone in our house...

Too late. They already have disablers in use at jails.

[Paulclem]

Too late. They already have disablers in use at jails.

Superb. It can be sorted in schools then - except perhaps for a phone zone in a box of some kind - I know, a phone booth. :biggrin5:

[LitNetIsGreat]

Superb. It can be sorted in schools then - except perhaps for a phone zone in a box of some kind - I know, a phone booth. :biggrin5:

Ha, ha. I think you should run with that idea, I like it.

[soundofmusic]

We have a programme in the UK called Grumpy Old Men, and a sister one called Grumpy Old Women where they moan in an amusing way about modern life.

Perhaps we could have Grumpy Old Litnet thread. I think it would be a hit. :biggrin5:

I too find phones annoying when misused, and I'm sure kids in school are a pain in the butt using them in lesson.

But, how else can you leave an annoying picture on someone's wallpaper, or alter their ringtone to something embarrassing. The fun we've had - Except once I had a sound clip of me screaming - I pride myself on my ability to make loud noises - as my ringtone. I was invigilating a GCSE Exam and my wife phoned me...on purpose...That was somewhat embarrassing.

But on balance phones are conveniant and fun. I know - schools should have a phone disabler machine - I'll patent it - that scrambles a mobile for... an hour. perhaps in the form of a gun that the teacher can draw and fire at the offending machine. I think it woud be a hit. :biggrin5:

Or maybe a no-phone zone - an area that won't send or receive a signal. Can it be difficult to set up? We have such a dead zone in our house...

I always love your great humor, Paul. Yes, the disabler is a great idea; can you disable the disabler when your classroom is taken hostage?

Good idea. Mrs Neely says that I should be on that show as it is, don't know why...:prrr:



No you don't.



I can sympathise but all of that is another big issue entirely. Present society seems bad, and it is at times, but I wonder how much of it is blown out of all proportion by the media and co and how people naturally look to the past through tinted glasses. Plus notice how the option out of society's ills is always to purchase something? Anyway, all of that is another issue, and had nothing to do with the role of an educator whose primary role is to teach, any more than it has to do with a dentist who's only paid to fix teeth. I know that from a classroom perspective, 28 phones, 28 mp3 players (and now 28 tasers:svengo:) all going off at the same time is not an ideal environment in which to attempt to teach. We have to draw the line somewhere.


I'm devestated, why didn't you tell me there was a Mrs Neely:bawling:

Ah, but on point, I think that when you are talking of society, you are speaking of your quaint little village of 600,000 people. My city has 6 million people in it; many are transients. There are 189 sex offenders in my small suburb, which is 2 blocks from an elementary school. If you question the crime here, check how many grown tourist couples we have sent home minus a mate (they were grown people on cruise ships or in hotel parking lots) I don't know how I would feel in your neighborhood; but in mine, you need a phone at the very least.

[LitNetIsGreat]

I'm devestated, why didn't you tell me there was a Mrs Neely:bawling:

:lol: Ha, ha best post on Lit Net.

Don't worry though wives don't really count - I'm a bohemian in spirit of course!!


Ah, but on point, I think that when you are talking of society, you are speaking of your quaint little village of 600,000 people. My city has 6 million people in it; many are transients. There are 189 sex offenders in my small suburb, which is 2 blocks from an elementary school. If you question the crime here, check how many grown tourist couples we have sent home minus a mate (they were grown people on cruise ships or in hotel parking lots) I don't know how I would feel in your neighborhood; but in mine, you need a phone at the very least.

Ha, ha village, Sheffield is the 4/5th biggest city in the country! I'm a big city boy! Though for sure it is essential to get away from the riff raff as much as possible - hence the bike and the theatre connections!

Oh, I'm not going to go into facts and figures of crime, it is just so depressing and somewhat vulgar. I would rather sit here for a bit longer listening to Verdi and finishing the remander of my Belgian beer! Maybe though you should consider emigration or at least moving to somewhere less aggressive. of course all that is easier said than done.

Anyway, can you believe that teens would rather play with their phones than listen to Mr Neely??? Just what is the youth of today coming to? Twisted or what?

[virginiawang]

No you don't.


Yes, I do need my phone. It's a rather serious point.

[soundofmusic]

:lol: Ha, ha best post on Lit Net.

Don't worry though wives don't really count - I'm a bohemian in spirit of course!!



Ha, ha village, Sheffield is the 4/5th biggest city in the country! I'm a big city boy! Though for sure it is essential to get away from the riff raff as much as possible - hence the bike and the theatre connections!

Oh, I'm not going to go into facts and figures of crime, it is just so depressing and somewhat vulgar. I would rather sit here for a bit longer listening to Verdi and finishing the remander of my Belgian beer! Maybe though you should consider emigration or at least moving to somewhere less aggressive. of course all that is easier said than done.

Anyway, can you believe that teens would rather play with their phones than listen to Mr Neely??? Just what is the youth of today coming to? Twisted or what?

Well, I would rather listen to Mr Neely than play with my phone. I loved England the few times I was there; do you think the Mrs would object to allowing me to crash in the loft:arf: I will look at the stars and fall asleep to the sweet sounds of classical music and Oscar (instead of sirens):p

[kasie]

Verdi and Belgian Beer? Verdi and a glass of chianti, surely?

Mobile phones in classrooms would have driven me bananas (and not the dancing kind, either) and Miss going bananas was not a pretty sight, as countless traumatised children, now twitchy adults, will tell you. I'd have been confiscating right, left and centre. (I can't do that? Watch me.)

I have a mobile phone - not an all-singing, all-dancing one, though I believe it takes pictures if you press the right button. But as my friends tell me, I have to switch it on for it to work. I do switch it on, I say. When I want to make a call. Which is hardly ever - dire emergencies don't figure largely in my life, thank goodness.

Can I be a Grumpy Old Woman, please? Oh, I am one already, aren't I?:nod:

[virginiawang]

wives don't really count


Why? If they do not have any significance, why do they ever exist? A wife must always learn.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Well, I would rather listen to Mr Neely than play with my phone. I loved England the few times I was there; do you think the Mrs would object to allowing me to crash in the loft:arf: I will look at the stars and fall asleep to the sweet sounds of classical music and Oscar (instead of sirens):p

Ha, ha - well the loft is full of dust and rubbish, it's not fit for human habitation...What you really need to do is to drown out those sirens with Shakespeare and fill your house with music and beautiful things and then all your troubles will cease...


Verdi and Belgian Beer? Verdi and a glass of chianti, surely?

Absolutely. It seems entirely wrong not drink red wine with Italian opera, the two demand each other but alas -I had to make do with fine quality Belgian beer on this occasion...though I a suffering for it a little today.

[virginiawang]

Good phones connect people of the same kind, who have always had a strong wish to be connected, whereas bad phones always make futile attempts to reach heterogeneous people and end up being damaged. What do I mean by people of the same kind? It means people who feel the same, but not always think and act the same, for some of them are not as smart, to think and act the same. However they can learn. To learn is important, in situations where people are not smart.
I believe I must learn to launch me onto the path where my dreams reside. My phone will take me to where my dreams are.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Good phones connect people of the same kind, who have always had a strong wish to be connected, whereas bad phones always make futile attempts to reach heterogeneous people and end up being damaged. What do I mean by people of the same kind? It means people who feel the same, but not always think and act the same, for some of them are not as smart, to think and act the same. However they can learn. To learn is important, in situations where people are not smart.
I believe I must learn to launch me onto the path where my dreams reside. My phone will take me to where my dreams are.

What?

[MarkBastable]

What?

Oh, for Pete's sake, pay attention, Neely.

She said, "Good phones connect people of the same kind, who have always had a strong wish to be connected, whereas bad phones always make futile attempts to reach heterogeneous people and end up being damaged. What do I mean by people of the same kind? It means people who feel the same, but not always think and act the same, for some of them are not as smart, to think and act the same. However they can learn. To learn is important, in situations where people are not smart. I believe I must learn to launch me onto the path where my dreams reside. My phone will take me to where my dreams are."


I mean - it could hardly be plainer than that, could it? Do make the effort, man.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Oh, for Pete's sake, pay attention, Neely.

She said, "Good phones connect people of the same kind, who have always had a strong wish to be connected, whereas bad phones always make futile attempts to reach heterogeneous people and end up being damaged. What do I mean by people of the same kind? It means people who feel the same, but not always think and act the same, for some of them are not as smart, to think and act the same. However they can learn. To learn is important, in situations where people are not smart. I believe I must learn to launch me onto the path where my dreams reside. My phone will take me to where my dreams are."


I mean - it could hardly be plainer than that, could it? Do make the effort, man.

:lol: Clear as muddy water with mud it in - or I am just like one of those kids who after I explain the task over and over again (even giving some of the answers) and asking five times slowly "does-everybody-know-what-they-are-doing?" to no reply, after five minutes says "I don't know what to do?" :incazzato: God I hate those kids, I've started completely ignoring them or refusing to help them - and don’t even dare have an sympathy with them! Why weren’t they listening in the first place? Hmm, might they have been fiddling with their god damn phones???

[Paulclem]

:lol: Clear as muddy water with mud it in - or I am just like one of those kids who after I explain the task over and over again (even giving some of the answers) and asking five times slowly "does-everybody-know-what-they-are-doing?" to no reply, after five minutes says "I don't know what to do?" :incazzato: God I hate those kids, I've started completely ignoring them or refusing to help them - and don’t even dare have an sympathy with them! Why weren’t they listening in the first place? Hmm, might they have been fiddling with their god damn phones???

Were youi born in the wrong century Neely?

I know a second hand book seller who refuses to have anything to do with modern technology. I picture him in a frock coat with a top hat - a dusty tan coloured one, striding the streets and grimacing at orphans. :D

[wessexgirl]

Were youi born in the wrong century Neely?

I know a second hand book seller who refuses to have anything to do with modern technology. I picture him in a frock coat with a top hat - a dusty tan coloured one, striding the streets and grimacing at orphans. :D

Wow, is he single :ihih:? Sounds great.....


:lol: Clear as muddy water with mud it in - or I am just like one of those kids who after I explain the task over and over again (even giving some of the answers) and asking five times slowly "does-everybody-know-what-they-are-doing?" to no reply, after five minutes says "I don't know what to do?" :incazzato: God I hate those kids, I've started completely ignoring them or refusing to help them - and don’t even dare have an sympathy with them! Why weren’t they listening in the first place? Hmm, might they have been fiddling with their god damn phones???

I know the feeling so well Neely. I have regulations and routines in the Library, which they are all informed of in Library lessons. But do they listen...? I'm boring myself telling them again and again and again and again and again and again....(you get the idea), when they barge in eating, drinking, using their phone, not signing in, etc. etc. etc. :banghead:
They give me a look of such shock, outrage, confusion (insert any such adjective here) when kicked out....."I didn't know I couldn't get my drink/lunch/phone out, miss, I didn't know I had to sign in....." (despite me standing over them every day making them do it......aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh). Thank goodness there's 2 weeks away from the little darlings now :D.

[Paulclem]

I know the feeling so well Neely. I have regulations and routines in the Library, which they are all informed of in Library lessons. But do they listen...? I'm boring myself telling them again and again and again and again and again and again....(you get the idea), when they barge in eating, drinking, using their phone, not signing in, etc. etc. etc. :banghead:
They give me a look of such shock, outrage, confusion (insert any such adjective here) when kicked out....."I didn't know I couldn't get my drink/lunch/phone out, miss, I didn't know I had to sign in....." (despite me standing over them every day making them do it......aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh). Thank goodness there's 2 weeks away from the little darlings now :D.

I always thought that a large dog would be good in school - this is with my fellow colleagues - or an authority asassin, or one of those trapdors that slide you out to the rubbish/ moat, or the capacity to set up machine gun nests in strataegic positions, or with the new development in wi fi electricity, an electric gun that will conduct through body piercings or rings or earrings....

Just a thought...


Wow, is he single :ihih:? Sounds great.....

I can't say really. I think he lives alone above the shop - probably in a garrett, with candles.

[LitNetIsGreat]

Were youi born in the wrong century Neely?


God, I think so...

Don't get me wrong techology is fine it small doses, it is often just the people who use it, (or abuse it) that really gets to me...


I know the feeling so well Neely. I have regulations and routines in the Library, which they are all informed of in Library lessons. But do they listen...? I'm boring myself telling them again and again and again and again and again and again....(you get the idea), when they barge in eating, drinking, using their phone, not signing in, etc. etc. etc. :banghead:
They give me a look of such shock, outrage, confusion (insert any such adjective here) when kicked out....."I didn't know I couldn't get my drink/lunch/phone out, miss, I didn't know I had to sign in....." (despite me standing over them every day making them do it......aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh). Thank goodness there's 2 weeks away from the little darlings now :D.

Oh yes two weeks of relative sanity!

Fancy kicking those kids out for "nothing". I bet they say that, "she's kicked me out for nothing, I haven't even done anything wrong". "I didn't know we couldn't eat and use our phones in here" (doesn't notice sign that says "no food or drink in the library" and all the rest of it...man they are so annoying...

You want to be in class. :mad5: Of course it is perfectly acceptable for them to talk (or shout) constantly while members of staff are trying to speak. It is actually nearly impossible to speak at all for 20 seconds without being interrupted - oh, I'm not even thinking about any of that now, peace out...


I can't say really. I think he lives alone above the shop - probably in a garrett, with candles

Candles are cool. :yesnod:

[Paulclem]

2 weeks....except i've got the decorating to do....

[virginiawang]

My phone has undegone transformation and got its identity changed, because of a realization on my part that it must be changed all at once.
I gave it a new card, which brought along with it a new address, so it can only be reached by those to whom I shall impart the address. I feel the phone is entirely mine now. I no longer have to delete unwanted messages, dash the hopes of undesirable flies again and again, tiring me out in the end. Now flies should by no means have access to bump and buzz, because there is not a door they know of which provides them anything whatever. With my phone having a new identity, I feel a tender touch which told me that I am getting closer and closer to my dream. My real identity is somehow getting revealed, to myself only, and perhaps to my own kind, whom I described already in a previous post. I want to salute the identity being more conspicuous. I am proud of the identity.





The owner of a phone gave me a bidding that I should disclose more about that phone, for which my phone is lying on a safe place, with its battery lodged. Phones don't really speak, but my phone somehow conveys to me the notion that I've always been dreaming about, but never really reached in reality. It told me my identity in a plainer style that pushed me into ecatasy everytime my glance was directed towards it.
I love my identidy and I will sacrifice everything to make it last for an eternity. No, for endless enternities. No, not everything. I will do my best to protect the owner of that phone.






I am really proud of my identity. It is my only identity. If I die, I want to stick a namecard onto my grave to tell everybody in the world everything about my identity, which was somehow made clear by my phone.






No, the identity means being aloof and mysterious. I cannot stick a namecard onto my grave, but I wish everyone I know to open their eyes, perhaps for the first time in their life, to my identity, which they couldn't even have dreamed of, if they once went mad. My identity, and my phone which made it more clear, .... I cannot think of anything to describe it for the time being. My heart is beating so hard.

[Paulclem]

So, what type of phone is it? Mine just does text, calls and photos. :D

[MarkBastable]

Have you talked to Musicology about this? Because he has interesting views concerning orbiting telephone satellites that might inform your understanding of your place in the universe.

[virginiawang]

But orbiting telephone satellites do not have the address of my phone. They cannot inform me without my phone number.





.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........................
Phones do not speak, but they weep.
I want to do everything, or anything to atone, to make up for my defect. I wish my phone would shout to another phone in a voice that will make its owner understand my determination to atone. I want to atone.







..................................................

[LitNetIsGreat]

Have you talked to Musicology about this? Because he has interesting views concerning orbiting telephone satellites that might inform your understanding of your place in the universe.


But orbiting telephone satellites do not have the address of my phone. They cannot inform me without my phone number.

Yes Mark, come on, get with the picture.

[virginiawang]

Yes, to atone. I was thinking what I can do to atone when I started this post. It will be everything that owner wants out of me, since to atone is the only way to stop me from weeping. I was even considering giving my phone number to one of those orbiting telephone satellites, which I don't think I do like, to seek information about ways to atone, ways to make him less angry.
To atone, to atone, to atone. I must think about it more closely to come up with a better idea, about things I can do, just to atone.
I must atone, so that he can see through my heart. I must atone to give him something, or anything before I die, or otherwise I shall have to die with regret.

[papayahed]

I need a new phone, lately calls have been going directly to voicemail. I'm not sure that has anything to do with the phone (probably the service provider) but it seems like a good excuse.

[Haunted]

Phones do not speak, but they weep.
I want to do everything, or anything to atone, to make up for my defect. I wish my phone would shout to another phone in a voice that will make its owner understand my determination to atone. I want to atone.

Since Day One I couldn't for the life of me understand since when the ringing of a cellphone could ever be considered a "serious discussion."

Most I ever use my cellphone for is to call AAA when I have a flat tire. Otherwise I'll just be calling my friends waiting for me across of the street why we can't see other...

My bonehead cellphone either rings or vibrates or in the silent mode. It doesn't weep even if I dump 50 gallons of battery acid over it.

Ahhh, after reading this, me and my cellphone feel so.......soul-less!!!

[Paulclem]

Yes, to atone. I was thinking what I can do to atone when I started this post. It will be everything that owner wants out of me, since to atone is the only way to stop me from weeping. I was even considering giving my phone number to one of those orbiting telephone satellites, which I don't think I do like, to seek information about ways to atone, ways to make him less angry.
To atone, to atone, to atone. I must think about it more closely to come up with a better idea, about things I can do, just to atone.
I must atone, so that he can see through my heart. I must atone to give him something, or anything before I die, or otherwise I shall have to die with regret.

Virginia - don't you think you would be better discussing such things with your friends or family?
I hope you can get stuff sorted. :)

[virginiawang]

But I never discussed with people. I do not have a family.
My phone told me just now that things stood quite well. I believe in phones only and forever.

[Paulclem]

Super.

[The Atheist]

But I never discussed with people. I do not have a family.
My phone told me just now that things stood quite well. I believe in phones only and forever.

Does your phone talk to you all by itself, or is there a person on the other end?

[virginiawang]

Hi Atheist, you must learn it from my previous posts.

[The Atheist]

Hi Atheist, you must learn it from my previous posts.

I've read them and it isn't at all clear, sorry.

[virginiawang]

A tremendous disaster fell upon me. I have not been with my phone for a long time. I have been a dead person for half a year. I do not understand why disasters fall upon people without informing them in advance. I am sad. My phone is still here with me, waiting for me to recover health. Thank you all.

[achraf]

i hope if you can send a good site for free books

[virginiawang]

to be continued soon.

I've recovered my health to a great extent, but something miraculous appeared. Phones? Words failed me now.

[tonywalt]

Did you ever get your ringer fixed?

[PoeticPassions]

I always think ants are a much better analogy for humankind.

Ants work a lot harder than average humans. Humans, are a lot of the time, lazy, freeloading, free riders.
But maybe I am being a bit too harsh.

Let's find a new animal analogy.

[Emil Miller]

Ants work a lot harder than average humans. Humans, are a lot of the time, lazy, freeloading, free riders.
But maybe I am being a bit too harsh.

Let's find a new animal analogy.

There isn't one, try Waterloo station in London at 8.30am. It's ants, only more so.

[virginiawang]

It is the first time in my life that I felt I was a part of a group of people, and I really enjoyed the moments I spent talking with them, all of them being the same kind, people of the devil's world. Now many phones protect me from my family, all of whom want to attack me mercilessly once they get an opportunity .
I am a bit sad because it seems that it was a dream again, because it only lasted for one day, though I am still a phone. I am back here again, myself only, waiting for blood discharge tomorrow. I wonder if there is anything real in my life, and I feel disappointed.
This afternoon, I read a poem written by Edgar Allan Poe, the title of which is a dream within a dream. I read it twice, not feeling glad. I cannot describe what I really felt by the time I finished reading it, but my heart echoed.

[tonywalt]

Thanks Virginiawang. You always take the words out of my mouth.

[virginiawang]

Only one phone resides in my heart.

[tonywalt]

That is good. So many people use and abuse phones, and just do not care. I am faithful to my phone (international dialing plan) and have been with her for 2 happy years now and look forward to many more:yawnb:

[virginiawang]

That is good. So many people use and abuse phones, and just do not care. I am faithful to my phone (international dialing plan) and have been with her for 2 happy years now and look forward to many more:yawnb:

I am not as lucky as you are. A phone is confusing to me now. Perhaps I cannot fit into the human world, so my phone only exists in dreams. He needs another phone, better equipped.

[tonywalt]

Virginiawang,

I prefer the telegraph machine. It's fast, it's unique, and rustic.

They are a bit heavy to carry around, but worth it.

[virginiawang]

Virginiawang,

I prefer the telegraph machine. It's fast, it's unique, and rustic.

They are a bit heavy to carry around, but worth it.

I am also a phone. I was being too selfish.

It is late in the midnight. I talked with my grandma all day about my phone, so my English broke. I will write more after a few days. I trust our love.

[tonywalt]

I like both the phone and telegraph, but yes I prefer the telegraph.

What is your view on the Pony Express?

[virginiawang]

I like both the phone and telegraph, but yes I prefer the telegraph.

What is your view on the Pony Express?


What are the characteristics of the Pony Express?

[tonywalt]

Good question! The pony delivers the mail. It's quite lovely and very Green, no fossil fuels.

Back when I was younger, during the Revolutionary War and for a long time afterwards, we communicated this way.

I still have an ole fountain pen, which I call "ye ole pen".

[Vonny]

Good question! The pony delivers the mail. It's quite lovely and very Green, no fossil fuels.

Back when I was younger, during the Revolutionary War and for a long time afterwards, we communicated this way.

I still have an ole fountain pen, which I call "ye ole pen".


Keep up the good fight Tony, and maybe I can work out something with you... maybe a time-share, say a few days a year at the lagoon, for you and your bohemian.

We need all men on deck here.

[tonywalt]

Keep up the good fight Tony, and maybe I can work out something with you... maybe a time-share, say a few days a year at the lagoon, for you and your bohemian.

We need all men on deck here.

Thanks Vonny. I will save you a spot on the beach and a beverage(s).

[virginiawang]

To be continued soon. I believe in love. I believe in phones.

I've gradually come to the conclusion that I will end up with nothing, pretty soon, by myself. I do not understand everything or anything that has happened all these years, and I do not understand everyone or anyone, incluing myself. I am utterly depressed now, for I can see my future clearly in my mind, so clearly that I lothe myself and everything all of a sudden. Yes, I believe in love, but my love only lives in dreams rather than in reality. Dreams only. I can feel myself waft further and further away from the human world, and disappear into nothing, soon. Though I am sad, I am extremely calm. I've always known myself as this sort of strange creature made up of air perhaps, deserving nothing in reality. My cell phone is still lying here in a safe place, for the sake of the owner of another phone, but I think I've misunderstood how things stood all these years. He needs another phone to walk him through the reality when I dream. A friend told me recently that people lie all the time, that I cannot trust what presents me superficially. Perhaps he never wants another phone, perhaps he is still mine? When I groped among my recollections about us closely, I trusted him, but when I thought again some other things which took place recently, I laughed, at myself only. Struggling with myself backwards and forwards, I still feel love, sincerely for him.
Recently I learned that a phone which I thought has been my enemy, has never been my enemy, has always been protecting me. Let me stop here at the present moment.


I feel a sensation of exhilaration when I think of what has come to pass in my small world. Somehow or other I've realized my dream by getting involved in the world of demons, demonstrated by the change of a phone card in my previous posts. I well remember that I've salutued my identity made clear by a new phone card, about a year ago, but what happened to me now surpassed my estimation in my wildest dreams. Perhaps none of you will believe me, but believe me you must. I've become a writer for my phone and perhaps that phone I described a bit in my last post, and get paid by gangsters in my country. No words other than the word amazed is fitted to describe me at the present moment. I am really glad, because I've become a gangster, a writer, and a wife in the near future all in one.

My dear old grandma never joined a gang or made friends with gangsters, but she knew a great deal of sense about gangsters' world, and the way gangsters manage things. It is because she read many novels about gangs when she was young. She and I decided that I, being a writer, can only get small money. Huge money is an insult to a woman, because it makes a woman a kind of purchase. She told me before she left a week ago that I should do my best to write more, and not demand money if I cannot hand over my writing. In this way, I can always be a beautiful writer in the world of gangsters. I think she is really right and smart. I admire her wisdom. I really love her, have a strong urge to thank her, because she made me who I am, since I was young. All our relatives cursed her and thought she educated me wrong headedly, and she was sad as a result. I don't see a reason for her to feel sad, because I never care about what other people think about me. However grandma has never been the sort of person I am, and she cares for all the opinions directed towards her. It made me really angry that those people, my enemies, made grandma sad. I love grandma. All of my friends, phones respect grandma the way I do, and I am glad about it. I hold a high opinion about phones simply for the fact that they respect grandma. I love grandma, my grandma.



I feel tears for reasons beyond me, for my phone, for that phone, or for grandma? I do not know on whom my strong feel was spent, but my heart feels a lacerating pain all of a sudden. Perhaps due to a lack of blood, my heart beats painfully now, and I can hardly figure out the true nature of my strong feels. Is it sadness? Perhaps not. Is it gladness? no. I think it is still a strong urge to ask my phone if he truly loves me all these years. Perhaps I should simply give myself a negative no from what I saw and what I heard recently, but some other facts convinced me of his love when I gave myself a distinct no. I am utterly confused and tired, yet I feel love.

[tonywalt]

I enjoy my morning coffee and reading Virginiawang. It's a damn fine tradition!

[virginiawang]

I am worried.

[virginiawang]

I believe in my phone and that phone. I feel love.

[virginiawang]

I love him only and forever.




The End

[Panglossian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPWHkK-_a_A&ob=av2n

[tonywalt]

How is your phone Virginia? I, along with other Lit members are eager to know just the status of your phone ownership.