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lokariototal
11-02-2009, 10:36 PM
What do you think are the best history books ever? Mention them! and their authors!
Modest Proposal
11-02-2009, 10:46 PM
If I had to say a single work... Moby Dick.
I know it has parts not incredibly exciting, but at its best it is the best of all time.
Drkshadow03
11-02-2009, 10:48 PM
If I had to say a single work... Moby Dick.
I know it has parts not incredibly exciting, but at its best it is the best of all time.
How's that a history book?
Modest Proposal
11-02-2009, 11:33 PM
Oh wow, I didn't even see that word.
Sorry, I just thought it said book. In some slight defense of myself, this is the general literature forum... that doesn't really change the fact that I cannot read...
Granny5
11-03-2009, 12:00 AM
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown. Tells the truth about the story of American Natives and how they were treated by settlers of North America.
stlukesguild
11-03-2009, 01:59 AM
Gibbon's- Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
mortalterror
11-03-2009, 02:31 AM
Gibbon's- Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Agreed. Although, I am no history buff. Some people recommend starting at the beginning with Herodotus and Thucydides, but since I hated both of their books, I am not one of that number. Gibbon's prose style is enthralling. I was just reading a bit more of him the other day, after I finished my Herodotus, and he is as fresh and winsome as ever. I find I like his narrative better than I do the works of Livy, Tacitus, Polybius, Macaulay, Prescott, or Toynbee.
mal4mac
11-03-2009, 07:22 AM
Like Montaigne, I prefer my history in the form of biography. He recommends reading Plutrach's lives. My favourites include Montaigne (Essays), J.S. Mill (Autobiography), Bryan Magee (Confessions of a philosopher). Also - Shakespeare's history plays.
Straight history books are often just that - too straight - too dry, too boring, too many dates, too little psychological depth, too many lists of non-entities & non-events. (Gibbon, Herodotus, and Thucydides might be exceptions! I must get round to reading them sometime... after Plutarch.)
I tend to pursue history and geography 'as needed', if absolutely necessary. For instance in reading Ellman's (superb) biography of Joyce I had to look up where Trieste was. But, from context, I learned all I needed to know about the struggle between Austria and Italy over Trieste. Also that struggle seen through the eyes of Ellman & Joyce was made very interesting and very memorable, no straight history book could compete in providing such a "useful" and "pleasurable" overview.
Which are the best historical/geographical reference works providing good "as needed" support? I'm tempted to buy the Times History of the World (there's an amazing offer on at W.H.Smiths at the moment).
sixsmith
11-03-2009, 07:28 AM
I can offer a few that i've enjoyed. 'The making of the English working class' by EP Thompson provides a frequently compelling, sometimes controversial account, of how a working class emerged in England in the late 18th early 19th century. His historiography is based in historical Marxism, but it's an approach which, despite its flaws, lends itself to a uniquely revealing view of English society.
I'll also proffer another Marxist history. 'Roll Jordan Roll' by Eugene Genovese. I read it as an undergrad, however, so it's possible i was just impressed by the attempt to understand the antebellum south in a way which had not been considered previously (I don't think it had).
I'd probably cop flak from the capital H Historians for saying so, but Robert Hughes' 'The Fatal Shore' is one of the best historical reads around, and certainly one of the best treatments of Australia's formative years.
Gilliatt Gurgle
11-03-2009, 08:00 AM
Here are a few from the Gurgle library:
Sir Bannister Fletcher’s “A History of Architecture” My copy happens to be the 19th edition.
“The Story of Civilization” by Will and Ariel Durant. This is an exhaustive ten part series of books that begins with Part I-“Our Oriental Heritage” and ends with Part X – “The Age of Rousseau and Revolution”
“The Second World War” – Another series covering the history of the second world war by Winston S. Churchill.
I’ll second St. Luke’s; Gibbons- “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”
“The Centennial History of the Civil War” series by Bruce Catton
Night_Lamp
11-03-2009, 01:18 PM
If you're interested in the French revolution, When The King Took Flight
by Timothy Tackett is a great read. It follows the failed flight of Louis XVI and its social and political implications. The book reads like one of Scott's historical
fiction novel, but is true. Not at all like a history text.
Highly enjoyable
Etienne
11-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Gibbon's- Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
There's always the problem that the historical part is a bit dated, and thus should be the basis for further explorations.
Gustavo L.
11-03-2009, 01:54 PM
On Middle Ages:
The Sorceress and Joan of Arc by Jules Michelet; quite dated but superbly written.
George Duby’s The Age of the Cathedrals, on art and society between the Xth and XVth centuries.
atiguhya padma
11-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Macaulay's History of England
S R Gardiner's History of the English Civil War
Christopher Hill's The World Turned Upside Down / Century of Revolution
Keith Thomas's Religion and the Decline of Magic
Norman Cohn's The Pursuit of the Millenium
Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy
More recently
Theodore Zeldin's An Intimate History of Humanity
Jonathan Glover's Humanity: A Moral History of the Twentieth Century
Sven Lindqvist's History of Bombing
Norman Davies's History of Europe
Diarmaid McCulloch's Reformation: Europe's House Divided
Of more recent
A People's History of the United States (http://books.google.com/books?id=P8V7J5qm5-YC&dq=howard+zinn+people%27s+history&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=3C9zSrbgJobiMMmWlbEM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false)
Guns, Germs and Steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_germs_and_steel)
Paulclem
11-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I like hisorical novels, which are informative and which have good writing and stories. I particularly enjoyed CJ Sansom's series set in the court of Henry VIII for the historical detail and the mystery. It's a fun way to get a general idea about a period in history, and was reccommended by an old history teacher of mine. I didn't pursue the subject, but it still stands as a good introduction.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?as_auth=CJ+Sansom&source=an&ei=o7bwSpTAONyMjAe9guXGCA&sa=X&oi=book_group&ct=title&cad=author-navigational&resnum=4&ved=0CB0QsAMwAw
Robert Harris is also very good on Rome - Pompeii and Imperium were a particularly good read.
http://www.randomhouse.com/author/results.pperl?authorid=12040
I'm also looking forward to rading Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel, which is also set in the court of henry VIII. It won the 2009 Man Booker Prize.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolf-Hall-Hilary-Mantel/dp/0007230184
another vote for Robert Harris's Pompeii - great read.
Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy.
Neil Hanson's Great fire of London.
all great reads.
Michael T
11-06-2009, 07:49 AM
Some great history books mentioned. However, this is the MUST HAVE if you want to know about the world YOU live in, and how we got here.
World Politics 1945 - 2000 Peter Calvocoressi.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5265/ol22382069mmn.jpg
Highly recommended :nod:
Nico87
11-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Stephen W. Sears has written some great books about the Civil War.
Bruce Catton's 'Army of the Potomac' trilogy is also worthy of a read.
Nick Capozzoli
11-09-2009, 02:34 PM
My vote for a few: Letters from an American Farmer, Of Plymouth Plantation, Democracy in America, and the section of In the American Grain in the persona of Christopher Columbus arriving in the New World.
to me is one of the best historic novels is "Peter 1" by Alexey Tolstoy.
lyni
thankx for the advise, I'll definitely read "The Great Fire of London"))
papayahed
11-21-2009, 09:43 PM
Anybody have an recommendations for non European/American history? (I skimmed that previous posts and didn't see anything)
lyni
thankx for the advise, I'll definitely read "The Great Fire of London"))[/QUOTE]
Inka - hope you enjoy it like I did
Inka - hope you enjoy it like I did
I wanted but I didn't find it in the stores =(
rightbackathugh
11-24-2009, 06:21 AM
Personally I don't see how Gibbon's work is still a great history book unless you're studying 18th Century intellectual history.
Emil Miller
11-24-2009, 05:07 PM
Among the the history books on my bookshelf is one that really is a superb read for afficionados of military history. Hitler's Generals by Correlli Barnett gives a marvellous insight into the reasons for the Wehrmacht's brilliant campaign in the West and also for its disastrous defeat in the East.
dafydd manton
11-24-2009, 05:10 PM
The Mabinogion - very early Welsh history, although not necessarily 100% accurate. Nonetheless compelling
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