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Buh4Bee
10-31-2009, 10:38 PM
Who on this forum has watched this awesome mini series. It is another great show produced by HBO.
What do people think? Clearly, I am a fan.
TheFifthElement
11-01-2009, 07:39 AM
I loved Rome :D It finished quite some time ago in UK but my husband and I bought the set on DVD and watched it again. Vorenus bugged me, and I always felt sorry for Titus Pullo (and okay, I have a bit of a weak spot for both James Purefoy (Mark Antony) and Ciaran Hinds (Julius Caesar)) :blush:
Probably not that historically accurate, but very entertaining nonetheless.
Virgil
11-01-2009, 08:55 AM
Who on this forum has watched this awesome mini series. It is another great show produced by HBO.
What do people think? Clearly, I am a fan.
I watched almost all the episodes. I LOVED it! I'm a Roman history buff and they really made it come alive. I was so disappointed when the seires ended. I don't usually buy TV series but this one I'm really tempted to get one day.
wessexgirl
11-01-2009, 10:32 AM
I loved it too, and bought the complete set. I loved Mark Antony and Julius Caesar, and it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the fact that I love both the actors...:nod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awT2GIbStns&feature=related
Just a little treat. I need to watch the series again.
papayahed
11-01-2009, 11:15 AM
My history professor keeps pushing the series so I put it opn Netflix.
Virgil
11-01-2009, 11:39 AM
My history professor keeps pushing the series so I put it opn Netflix.
It's supposed to be very accurate. I can vouch for the raw historical details of Ceasar and Antony and the historical figures being accurate. But even the everyday life parts of it were supposedly done to as best available knowledge.
papayahed
11-01-2009, 08:27 PM
It's supposed to be very accurate. I can vouch for the raw historical details of Ceasar and Antony and the historical figures being accurate. But even the everyday life parts of it were supposedly done to as best available knowledge.
History Prof said the same thing, we just got done studying Ancient Rome, she showed us the murder of Julius Caeser. What is the time period of the series? Obviously around the time Julius Caeser but does it start with Julius and follow the rest of the emperor's or did it begin in the republic and end with Caeser? or is Caesar somewhere in the middle?
Virgil
11-01-2009, 08:34 PM
History Prof said the same thing, we just got done studying Ancient Rome, she showed us the murder of Julius Caeser. What is the time period of the series? Obviously around the time Julius Caeser but does it start with Julius and follow the rest of the emperor's or did it begin in the republic and end with Caeser? or is Caesar somewhere in the middle?
Time period is the events leading to Ceasar's assassination. I think he was assassinated in 44 BC. It's roughly a few years around it, leading to it and after it.
Attia of the Julii was completely different in the series than in contemporary accounts, where she was described as pious, morally impeccable and so dignified that no one dared utter a foul word in her presence. But a slutty Attia was considered more entertaining on TV. The Tudors series also took liberties. I enjoyed these shows, and I just remember they're fiction. Of course, the Attia of historians might be based on propoganda, but the Attia of HBO is based on nothing.
I think the historical value of the Rome series has more to do with understanding the culture than with the details of people and events.
Virgil
11-01-2009, 10:13 PM
Attia of the Julii was completely different in the series than in contemporary accounts, where she was described as pious, morally impeccable and so dignified that no one dared utter a foul word in her presence. But a slutty Attia was considered more entertaining on TV. The Tudors series also took liberties. I enjoyed these shows, and I just remember they're fiction. Of course, the Attia of historians might be based on propoganda, but the Attia of HBO is based on nothing.
I think the historical value of the Rome series has more to do with understanding the culture than with the details of people and events.
I did not know much about Attia, Eryk. So I looked it up. Apparently you are correct:
Comparison with the historical Atia Balba Caesonia
Atia Balba Caesonia (born 85 BC) was the second daughter of Julius Caesar's elder sister Julia Caesaris and Marcus Atius Balbus, son of a Senator from Aricia. Atia herself had two sisters, not mentioned in the series, and was a cousin to general Pompey through her father.
Atia's first husband was Gaius Octavius, a Senator of obscure provincial origins. By him she had a daughter, Octavia Minor (Octavius already had a daughter, Octavia Major, from a previous marriage), and a son, Gaius Octavius (Octavian). After Octavius died in 59 BC, Atia married another Senator, Lucius Marcius Philippus, who was a devoted stepfather to her children. He would have been present throughout the period covered by Rome, however the character in the series is known to be unmarried.
Contrary to Rome's representation, Tacitus describes Atia as a pious, devoted mother and an ideal Roman matron; little other detail is known of her. There is no historical evidence to suggest that she was romantically involved with Mark Antony or in a contemptuous rivalry with Servilia Caepionis (basis for the character Servilia of the Junii), as is dramatized in the series. It is not known what involvement she may have had in the political intrigues of Julius Caesar or Octavian, but she did fear for her son's safety and at some point urged him to renounce his rights as Caesar's heir.
Atia died in the year 43 BC, before the Battle of Philippi in which the legions of Antony and Octavian defeated Brutus and Cassius. In the series, she outlives these events and even lives to see her son become the first Roman Emperor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atia_of_the_Julii
Buh4Bee
11-03-2009, 06:40 PM
I think that this is a loose interpretation on the historical story of the Triumvirate. I think the intent of the series is the entertain, as it is a drama series. However, the overall plot is quite accurrate.
Virgil, I too was disappointed when the drama series ended, I would have liked to keep watching it.
I am so glad so many people enjoyed this series.
Apparently the show was supposed to be a lot longer originally but they cut huge chunks out. Which is such a shame I loved that show, critics said the acting was hammy but I thought it was awesome. Especially the ending where Attia watched the body of Anthony being paraded in front of her.
About the historically accuracy of the show, the main plot was pretty accurate even if they took liberties with the personalities i.e Attia and Ocatavia.
Virgil
11-05-2009, 07:56 PM
Apparently the show was supposed to be a lot longer originally but they cut huge chunks out. Which is such a shame I loved that show, critics said the acting was hammy but I thought it was awesome. Especially the ending where Attia watched the body of Anthony being paraded in front of her.
About the historically accuracy of the show, the main plot was pretty accurate even if they took liberties with the personalities i.e Attia and Ocatavia.
Are you sure it was the body of Antony? I don't recall the series reaching Antony's death. You must mean Ceasar's body.
Are you sure it was the body of Antony? I don't recall the series reaching Antony's death. You must mean Ceasar's body.
I am pretty sure it was Anthony. In the finale when Octavian comes back from Egypt he holds a Triumph and parades Anthony and Cleopatra. Anyone else remember?
Virgil
11-06-2009, 09:12 AM
I am pretty sure it was Anthony. In the finale when Octavian comes back from Egypt he holds a Triumph and parades Anthony and Cleopatra. Anyone else remember?
Oh did it end with that? I don't remember. If the series ended with a victorious Octavian then it is quite possible that Antony's body was paraded. I did not remember the series progressing that far in the history.
Buh4Bee
11-06-2009, 09:41 AM
I can't remember either, but here is a guide to the summery of each episode (episode 22 in season 2):
www.hbo.com/rome/episode/season2/episode22.html
The bodies are not mentioned, but maybe we need to rewatch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Patre_Vostro_%28About_Your_Father%29
Here it says effigies are paraded past. Sorry, thought they were bodies didn't mean to cause confusion.
Buh4Bee
11-06-2009, 01:17 PM
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acdouglas92
11-06-2009, 03:20 PM
I would say that it Anthony's death was implied...I totally agree with you Virgil, I don't think the history went that far.
Buh4Bee
11-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Fen you caused a great deal of confusion for me. But we all know now, even me, what really happened. A dictionary is helpful sometimes.
amalia1985
11-08-2009, 04:39 PM
It was one of the best mini- series I've ever watched. Excellent acting, wonderful depiction of the era, even though slightly inaccurate. But accuracy in period movies and series seems to be impossible, so I've stopped taking this factor into consideration.
Buh4Bee
11-08-2009, 07:09 PM
I think a lot of people put the historical limits aside and watched the mini series for what it was.
Fen you caused a great deal of confusion for me. But we all know now, even me, what really happened. A dictionary is helpful sometimes.
Sorry about that.
I am worried that I remember the show in more detail then is apparently normal. Maybe I love the show a little too much;)
With the obvious exception of the effigies, could have sworn they were bodies when I watched Rome. Ah well, I will just have to re-watch it and pay more attention.
Buh4Bee
11-09-2009, 08:54 PM
I think we all loved the show so you are not alone.;)
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