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atena_63
10-28-2009, 04:45 AM
Hi there.
What's the gist of the philosophy of Nietzsche?
How he sees the world? I mean what's his point of view on life?
What kind of human he suggests?
What he means by " Will" ?

JommiL
10-28-2009, 06:29 PM
This is my short & humble opinion;
To me F.N Was not so wise man. He was smart, but this Ubermench - idea was quite nonsense. Everyone is valuable and great person, we just canīt blame them if someone if someone ainī t so fast-thinker etc. Ubermench - thinking is... how i say? It creatives destruction? But his is short one...

Nemo Neem
10-28-2009, 07:59 PM
Nietzsche was a flat-out pessimist.

DanielBenoit
11-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Kay, seems like I'm going to be the only one who's going to actually answer the original poster's question:

Nietzsche, first and foremost, is rather hard to systemize, since he had no system and most of his works are just as fragmentary and aphoristic as the scattered works of the pre-Socratics.

The only way to really discuss Nietzsche is not by asking what was his outlook on life, but by looking at his ideas, there's two in particular which will somewhat introduce his philosophical outlook. Also, it is worth mentioning that one of Nietzsche's main goals throughout his works, is to destroy that old Kantian and Platonic notions of the Christain world and to rebuild a new system of values. This is more complex than it seems, and was best systamized by Heidigger.

Okay, Nietzsche's idea of eternal recurrence can be found in a moving passage in The Gay Science in which he asks the reader what if you were to learn that this life as you now live it and now know it, were to be repeated endlessly into eternity. Now, it is not the ontological value of this question that Nietzsche is conserned about, but the reaction of the person in question. To live in an eternal anxiety knowing that every thing you do, every choice you make could be experienced and re-experienced imnumberable times over, is to create a sense of value to life, an appretiation of suffering. For one of Nietzsche's main convictions could be, simplified, 'you learn from your mistakes'. Nietzsche sees experience, escpecially miserable and horrific experience, to be things which make the induvidual more intellegent and less naive to the world. This is then put into question when we ask if that intellegence is worth what you suffered.

This now leads us to Nietzsche's idea of the "Will to Power", which has been vastly misinterprited. Nietzsche saw the aesceticism of Christainity and the catigorical imperitive of Kant to be based on ethical delusions and to be anti-life-affirming. He instead posed the idea of Will, and not just a will to life, for life can be lived but it can still lack affirmatoin and just waddle in apathy. Power as it can be defined, is predicated upon ambition, achievement, struggle. Nietzsche saw the life well lived as one in which one has fought and struggled, and in the end they may even suffer in defeat, but at least they had the Will.

If you have anymore questions, just ask :) Hope this helped.

Michael T
11-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Kay, seems like I'm going to be the only one who's going to actually answer the original poster's question:


:cool:Nice summary Danielbenoit.:cool:

Nick Capozzoli
11-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Okay, Nietzsche's idea of eternal recurrence can be found in a moving passage in The Gay Science in which he asks the reader what if you were to learn that this life as you now live it and now know it, were to be repeated endlessly into eternity.

Sounds like the Myth of Sissiphus.

billl
11-09-2009, 01:48 PM
Yes, that is a very nice summary, I think.

I just want to point out that it was actually Schopenhauer that introduced the idea of the "Will to Life," which Nietszche was very much impressed by, but he eventually posited a "Will to Power" which was more important (or interesting, or relevant to his philosophical outlook) than Schopenhauer's "Will to Live."

I think the "Will to Life" can be seen in a beautiful (seminal?) example I remember reading from Schopenhauer (I think) where he mentions how he was struck by the way that plants stretch towards the sun.

DanielBenoit
11-10-2009, 01:26 AM
Sounds like the Myth of Sissiphus.

Kind of. But Camus's idea concerned accepting the absurdity and purposelessness of our existence, so just as the rock rolls back down the hill, Sysphus goes back down to roll it back up, not because he is concerned with the end goal, but with just doing. Because action, no matter how meaningless, is still better than huddling up in a corner for eternity.

Okay, back to Nietzsche. . . .. .

gueitar
11-10-2009, 07:47 AM
I agree with you. It is a good idea....happy.
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