View Full Version : The feminization of America, continued
Jozanny
10-04-2009, 05:24 PM
There is nothing so ludicrous as the National Football League wearing pink for breast cancer awareness month.:yawnb:
papayahed
10-04-2009, 05:35 PM
I'll bite, why?
papayahed
10-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Ya know what weirds me out? Men that have shaped and waxed eyebrows. Neat and trim is one thing but shaped??
Virgil
10-06-2009, 06:47 PM
Ya know what weirds me out? Men that have shaped and waxed eyebrows. Neat and trim is one thing but shaped??
:lol: Yep. I can't even bring myself to dye my hair after going more than half grey. Even that's too girlie for me. Waxed eyebrows? :sick:
Shalot
10-06-2009, 11:53 PM
There is nothing so ludicrous as the National Football League wearing pink for breast cancer awareness month.:yawnb:
This brings to mind a great Brad Paisley song:
These days there's dudes getting facials
Manicured, waxed and botoxed
With deep spray-on tans and creamy lotiony hands
You can't grip a tacklebox
With all of these men lining up to get neutered
It's hip now to be feminized
I don't highlight my hair
I've still got a pair
Yeah honey, I'm still a guy
Oh my eyebrows ain't plucked
There's a gun in my truck
Oh thank God, I'm still a guy
:nod:
What is female - I don't think what we see as "female" was seen as female, lets say, 200 years ago, in the sense that I don't think some practices were practiced in the sense they are to day.
Take for instance the fascination with materialized appearance - a totally new invention that pervades amongst both genders - it's just capitalism, and has very little to do with "femininity" in my opinion.
Or are you implying the notion of "bravado" is somehow fading - if so, in a sense, it isn't the most lamentable of things to go.
You could perhaps argue though, of a "masculization" of the US, with women playing sports now, showing their legs, working in the work force, etc. But again, such a binary doesn't really hold any weight - it is merely that gender has been flipped upside down, and is starting to (about time I think) disappear in the traditional sense, and be replaced with a) commercialism, and b) perhaps some form of equality - albeit in baby steps.
Jozanny
10-07-2009, 03:48 AM
Well JBI, my first thought, when I was watching the Sunday games, was how successful the women's movement was in constraining machisimo. My second thought was that angry Third World women had a point in saying that western feminism had failed to achieve parity, because the pink color could be seen as nothing more than a pean to placate women.
The media may practice some slight progressive tokenism by putting female correspondents down on the field to interview, but how many women have positions of power within the various team franchises? Very few. I am not saying I want to watch female footballers, American or European, go up against male players. But female coaches, general managers, that would be nice. I think I've just given myself a decent article idea and now I'm excited. I have to copy this to file.
Who really cares...
they're raising and bringing attention to a very important issue of which people, including people in my family, struggle with daily.
Pink is the colour for "breast cancer" awareness. Whose to say a man wearing it for that purpose isn't as much affected by breast cancer than a woman? e.g wife, sister, daughter
Niamh
10-07-2009, 08:25 AM
lets not forget that men also can get breast cancer.
Jozanny
10-07-2009, 08:58 AM
I am going to be horridly callous. People, at least thus far, have to die. If I turn on a football game, I want to see the Patriots get their lunch by eating turf; I want to see Dallas disgraced. I do not need to be reminded about diseases that require removal of body parts and lethal dangerous drugs circulating in my blood stream. I doubt there are very many people who aren't aware of cancer, but what you are ignorant of is truly matriculating those who live with diseases and chronic conditions.
When I came back to Philly in the 80's, I was told my wheelchair was my job security. By 2k that became a joke, and it remains a joke because Americans really don't care, don't want to see, and actually like social segregation. The NFL should stick to football and not social policy peans.
papayahed
10-07-2009, 11:02 AM
The NFL should stick to football and not social policy peans.
yeah! they should stop all that volunteer work like visiting hospitals, training camps for kids, or helping build houses.
Emil Miller
10-07-2009, 11:19 AM
:lol: Yep. I can't even bring myself to dye my hair after going more than half grey. Even that's too girlie for me. Waxed eyebrows? :sick:
I've never heard of waxed eyebrows either. Whatever next? Powder puffs for men? The French have the answer to this sort of nonsense "Vive .la difference!
MANICHAEAN
10-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Ive gone completely grey now in hair, beard & eyebrows. Do you think its time for a few black highlights?
Who really cares...
they're raising and bringing attention to a very important issue of which people, including people in my family, struggle with daily.
Pink is the colour for "breast cancer" awareness. Whose to say a man wearing it for that purpose isn't as much affected by breast cancer than a woman? e.g wife, sister, daughter
Pink is also, coincidentally, the color of sex, and prostitution in Japan - ultimately, the gesture, no matter what they are wearing, i justified in that it seeks to bring an audience to an issue of importance.
Emil Miller
10-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Ive gone completely grey now in hair, beard & eyebrows. Do you think its time for a few black highlights?
Don't forget to wax the eyebrows.
There is nothing so ludicrous as the National Football League wearing pink for breast cancer awareness month.:yawnb:
How about the 'Tough Guys Wear Pink' that is present at every single rodeo event across the nation?
Virgil
10-07-2009, 06:27 PM
I am going to be horridly callous. People, at least thus far, have to die. If I turn on a football game, I want to see the Patriots get their lunch by eating turf; I want to see Dallas disgraced. I do not need to be reminded about diseases that require removal of body parts and lethal dangerous drugs circulating in my blood stream. I doubt there are very many people who aren't aware of cancer, but what you are ignorant of is truly matriculating those who live with diseases and chronic conditions.
When I came back to Philly in the 80's, I was told my wheelchair was my job security. By 2k that became a joke, and it remains a joke because Americans really don't care, don't want to see, and actually like social segregation. The NFL should stick to football and not social policy peans.
:lol: :lol: Spoken like a true Philly fan. Fans from Philadelphia seem to be the most brutal, mean fans in the country. City of brotherly love my a$$. :D
Hey I do object to your remarks about the Dallas Cowboys. :mad:
Virgil
10-07-2009, 06:28 PM
How about the 'Tough Guys Wear Pink' that is present at every single rodeo event across the nation?
Oh no. :eek2: :eek2: Now that is going too far. Cowboys cannot be made to wear pink.
Virgil
10-07-2009, 06:29 PM
I've never heard of waxed eyebrows either. Whatever next? Powder puffs for men? The French have the answer to this sort of nonsense "Vive .la difference!
Ive gone completely grey now in hair, beard & eyebrows. Do you think its time for a few black highlights?
:lol::lol:
kilted exile
10-07-2009, 06:48 PM
The NHL have been doing "Shoot for a cure" for years now and using pink sticks etc
Android raptor
10-07-2009, 07:03 PM
IMHO, there's nothing with femininity itself. Gender isn't a black and white binary like society wants to think, and if a male feels more comfortable doing more stereotypically feminine things, it's all fine and good as far as I'm concerned.
However, I have noticed femininity being much more shoved in the faces of the masses within the last few years. What's especially concerning to me is that girls who aren't feminine seem to be the target of a lot of demonization and attempts to make them "girly". And it seems like whenever I catch a show my friend's kids are watching on the Disney Channel or whatever, all the female characters are a bunch of shallow, pop-culture obsessed idiots. I have yet to see a female character on Hannah Montana and the like with an interest science, math, literature, etc, and it makes me a very sad panda.
Sorry if that's a bit of a tangent. You've got a n00b aboard :P
papayahed
10-07-2009, 07:27 PM
ohhh cripes!! I wore blue today and I think I'm growing a penis.
Emil Miller
10-07-2009, 08:23 PM
ohhh cripes!! I wore blue today and I think I'm growing a penis.
You should be so lucky.
papayahed
10-07-2009, 09:10 PM
You should be so lucky.
:cold: nah, there's too much ridiculousness that goes along with it.
Jozanny
10-07-2009, 09:45 PM
:lol: :lol: Spoken like a true Philly fan. Fans from Philadelphia seem to be the most brutal, mean fans in the country. City of brotherly love my a$$. :D
Hey I do object to your remarks about the Dallas Cowboys. :mad:
If God said "It is the Apocalypse or Dallas wins the Superbowl," I'd pick the former:rage::lol:
Seriously, it seems the league wants to get a little too streamlined and pretty, and I like a little of the old rough and tumble; but I did get a marketable idea off this chat, and if my guy hadn't eaten a block of my afternoon, I would have pitched some. He told me Ms. Magazine is going bankrupt, so I guess JBI is right and we're all going unisex;).
Virgil
10-07-2009, 10:16 PM
If God said "It is the Apocalypse or Dallas wins the Superbowl," I'd pick the former:rage::lol:
Seriously, it seems the league wants to get a little too streamlined and pretty, and I like a little of the old rough and tumble; but I did get a marketable idea off this chat, and if my guy hadn't eaten a block of my afternoon, I would have pitched some. He told me Ms. Magazine is going bankrupt, so I guess JBI is right and we're all going unisex;).
Ms. Mag is going bankrupt!!!!!!!!
http://repairman.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/hallelujah.jpg
There is a God!!! :D
Jozanny
10-07-2009, 11:10 PM
Ms. Mag is going bankrupt!!!!!!!!
http://repairman.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/hallelujah.jpg
There is a God!!! :D
OOOooow, those are fightin words! Put up your dukes! Call Scher to referee!:ladysman:
http://fightpromo.com/m_pictures/thumbs/boxing_gloves.jpg
edit - nevermind, that was a poorly constructed point.
i wish there was a way to delete our posts
Jozanny
10-08-2009, 01:23 AM
edit - nevermind, that was a poorly constructed point.
i wish there was a way to delete our posts
lima,
With all due respect, I am nearly 50 years old, turning into a crabby old biddy, the likes of which would have been anathema to me when I was 14 and dreamed of able-bodied authority figures who would rescue me and protect me from the hard knocks of my vulnerability.
I have flown off the handle and gone over the top more times than I can count in my online life, and was told more than once to get help, or that I needed it; maybe I did, maybe I still do, dunno, but there aren't many cures for the dose of circumstances I had to swallow.
All that given, say what you want to say. I don't take it personally with young people like yourselves, and to the degree that I have become comfy on this forum, that is fine and dandy, but LN is not life and death to me. If I am ever removed, I'll live, and if I remain for the length of time Admin keeps it running, then that is cool too.
lima,
With all due respect, I am nearly 50 years old, turning into a crabby old biddy, the likes of which would have been anathema to me when I was 14 and dreamed of able-bodied authority figures who would rescue me and protect me from the hard knocks of my vulnerability.
I have flown off the handle and gone over the top more times than I can count in my online life, and was told more than once to get help, or that I needed it; maybe I did, maybe I still do, dunno, but there aren't many cures for the dose of circumstances I had to swallow.
All that given, say what you want to say. I don't take it personally with young people like yourselves, and to the degree that I have become comfy on this forum, that is fine and dandy, but LN is not life and death to me. If I am ever removed, I'll live, and if I remain for the length of time Admin keeps it running, then that is cool too.
I understand.
But i only deleted my comment because it was going off in to some other tangent that made no sense. It's funny. Sometimes i'll read a point that someone makes and my head is telling me it's logical, it makes sense, i understand what they're trying to say - but then another side to me, and i don't know which part, takes their point and twists it negatively..
in this case, i did that with what you were saying. So i had to stop, think, and realize that I was really dumbing myself down - because what i thought, wasn't your point at all.
I have a terrible habit of getting overly passionate about something, to the point it overrides logic and the person's actual point
Jozanny
10-08-2009, 03:55 AM
Well, it is 4am my time, and I guess I should not post about it, but I have done some work on making a feature out of my observations, and made one pitch so far on giving myself a project. I believe in doing a story like this, also, and feel sure at some point that I will find an editor to let me try my hand.
Any community might serve as a decent sounding board, I suppose :). If I get it I will be busy though, getting sources and the like. I can't use anyone from Lit Net :D
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