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Pendragon
10-04-2009, 07:28 AM
Thoughts and Philosophies
Some say Faith is just self-deception,
That there is no God, no Heaven, no Hell—
That in the end there’ll be a mere cold reception,
Neither the Paradise nor Abyss that we’ve been taught so well…
Can it be that when life is over it just ends—
Or shall I still hope and pray for Salvation when I die…
Does something brighter beckon or does it depend
On choices I make while I am still young and spry…
Believe what you want, I still trust in eternal hope,
And eternal damnation for those who deny—
It is a hand that can throw a man a rope
When he is going down for the third time…
This world is enough hell to go through as it is—
And so I look forward to a new world when this one ends…
Pendragon
© Sunday, October 04, 2009
PrinceMyshkin
10-04-2009, 11:39 AM
Nicely thought out, but you won't persuade all of us! And after all, isn't it possible that this "hell" as you call it is little more than boot camp for what is to come?
Lokasenna
10-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Very enjoyable - the existentialist wrangling is quite emotive here, and I love the way you tie it up at the end.
One thing:
Does some brighter beckon or does it depend
Should there be another word between brighter and beckon? I can't quite fathom what you are trying to say at that point...
Pendragon
10-04-2009, 01:56 PM
Very enjoyable - the existentialist wrangling is quite emotive here, and I love the way you tie it up at the end.
One thing:
Should there be another word between brighter and beckon? I can't quite fathom what you are trying to say at that point...Yeah, that was a type-o. I fixed it.
~Sophia~
10-04-2009, 05:10 PM
Nice musing Pendragon! Is there a question older than this one? Even before Christ there were "gods" to pray to. To fear, to worship. It seems as humans, we've never been complete without something/someone to believe in!
PrinceMyshkin
10-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Nice musing Pendragon! Is there a question older than this one? Even before Christ there were "gods" to pray to. To fear, to worship. It seems as humans, we've never been complete without something/someone to believe in!
Perhaps because we have never had the audacity to believe in ourselves. I imagine the first men and women to sense something of the enormity of the universe, of a flood or freezing cold and thinking We are so pitifully small and so helpless! And what they could do to confront lightning, floods, famine seemed to them so little that it might as well have been nothing.
Pendragon
10-05-2009, 06:58 AM
Perhaps because we have never had the audacity to believe in ourselves. I imagine the first men and women to sense something of the enormity of the universe, of a flood or freezing cold and thinking We are so pitifully small and so helpless! And what they could do to confront lightning, floods, famine seemed to them so little that it might as well have been nothing.
Kinda why I put "believe what you want" into the poem. I'm not trying to force others to believe as I do. This is more a statement of what I believe...
AuntShecky
10-05-2009, 02:06 PM
Timely questions very succinctly put. Now, my question: should or should not religion have a much larger purpose than merely to give comfort to mortals, as your verse has it, throwing a rope
to a drowning man?
haymanali
10-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Beautiful, humorous and filled with hopeful thoughts. Great write, well penned.
Virgil
10-07-2009, 06:32 PM
Nice. You convinced me, but then I didn't need convincing. :)
firefangled
10-08-2009, 09:34 AM
I think this is one of your best in this form, Pen. There is an ease in the rhymes throughout.
As far as the philosophy or theology of this, I liked the way you expressed hope and faith in more universal terms.
Personally, I think we sense something in the world, universe, cosmos, whatever we call it that truly is greater than we can imagine at this point. I find that to label that something or confine it diminishes it.
I just re-read Frost's Two Look At Two 30 minutes before reading your poem. The type of confirmation at the end of Frost's poem and yours is what keeps me believing in something more than what can be explained.
Pendragon
10-09-2009, 08:46 AM
Thanks to all of you, being compared to Robert Frost is a new pinnacle I'm not sure I deserve...
ahsiam
10-10-2009, 12:25 AM
Is there really another world where we can look for our salvation or may be the life would be getting more wonderful than it is...i wonder?!
You have distinct thoughts uncle pen i must say, this poem shows how much deep you dig...
Its beautifully written. :)
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