I am the Arab thief...

[PrinceMyshkin]

I come from Cairo, Tehran,
Riyadh, Amman,
Baghdad, Abu Dhabi.

My aim is to bring shame
on all Arabs and Moslems.

Allah will judge me!

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© 2009, J. Newman. This is an original work posted under the name of PrinceMyshkin on http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=758620#post758620. Any unauthorized reproduction of it constitutes theft.

[Delta40]

....no sugar with that - I don't need it! love your style PMS.....

[vagantes]

There is a nastiness here that is not pleasant.

[PrinceMyshkin]

There is a nastiness here that is not pleasant.

I meant no offense to any Arab or Muslim other than to the one who, I assumed, might cut & paste this in its entirety to the offending Arab Dreams site, as he or she has done with so many others without apparently reading them as they were copied along with an ascription that followed the poem itself. So I hoped that if this were copied, the administrator of that site might be provoked to ban the plagiarist.

[Jozanny]

Look, I am only going to raise my voice one more time about this, and then I am done: For those of you who write poetry as a form of fun community bonding online, you have to accept the risks of the cut and paste technology that comes with the technology that allows you to flock together over your ditties. You can minimize the risk by deleting your efforts after your friends have critiqued.

If you write with the intent of publication, as I do, don't post your work. Case closed. What the founders of the Arabic site did was poor form, but what you are doing as users of the writing forum here, is also getting to the point of poor form, and I suggest some growing up is in order, maybe putting your heads together about ways to make your drafts more secure.

[qimissung]

Yes mam. Point taken.

[Jozanny]

I understand the anger, but the stereotyping bothers me. I'm going to add one other thing: My old haunt, the Speakeasy, shut down their writing workshop forum. I cannot know why they made the decision, but I can bet it was in part due to the fact that they, too, cannot protect the copyright on poster drafts--and I did not post my writing there either. What I was there for was to learn what I didn't know, and I am a freelancer now, as well as a creative writer, because of the freelancers there in my day.

Admin seems to be a flexible guy on some things, talk to him about safeguards and such. Maybe he can rig up additional security, I don't know.

[ampoule]

You can minimize the risk by deleting your efforts after your friends have critiqued.

That is a great idea. The problem here is that our friends QUOTE our poems within their comments making it impossible to delete.

[PrinceMyshkin]

That is a great idea. The problem here is that our friends QUOTE our poems within their comments making it impossible to delete.

Plus, we don't know how quickly the plagiarist reads and snatches this or that post.

[Nightshade]

Ok this is my suggestion http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=759152#post759152 to a solution please look at it and concider it.

That is a great idea. The problem here is that our friends QUOTE our poems within their comments making it impossible to delete.
And no actually that doesn't affect it because it isnt a PERSON that is copying but a programme think of it like a virus, its only copying OPs of new threads. but it does it almost instantly I think the lapse period is 4 minutes.

And on the poem I cant help but point out people from Egypt and Tehran are not arabic, they are Egyptians ( or north Africans) and Iranians. I have to say though I dont like it as much as some of your other ones. :nod:

[PrinceMyshkin]

Ok this is my suggestion to a solution please look at it and concider it.

And no actually that doesn't affect it because it isnt a PERSON that is copying but a programme think of it like a virus, its only copying OPs of new threads. but it does it almost instantly I think the lapse period is 4 minutes.

In which case, the only solution might be as ~Sophia~ did and I believe as Firefangled did, which is to write to the administrator of that site (Inez) and request that she ban that person or programme from posting to her site.

[Nightshade]

No. That is just annoying the other person, if she hasnt done anything yet more people nagging isnt going to change her mind. Did you read my suggestion?
http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?p=759152#post759152
Its that or go the official route whihc is by far the better smarter thing to do. Admin left all the information on that in the threads in the Literature Network subforum
http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45912

[PrinceMyshkin]

And on the poem I cant help but point out people from Egypt and Tehran are not arabic, they are Egyptians ( or north Africans) and Iranians. I have to say though I dont like it as much as some of your other ones. :nod:

Thank you for your appreciation of my other poems. In the post that begins this thread, I wasn't aiming to write a poem of any merit other than the hope of embarassing the plagiarist and the site to which he or she posts our stolen poems.

It may have stopped, though, as the last one I saw taken from here was "84 vs 1"

[blazeofglory]

I cannot penetrate into this poem although it is moving.

[PrinceMyshkin]

I cannot penetrate into this poem although it is moving.

It wasn't meant as much of a poem but rather as something that might shame the plagiarist if he or she copied & pasted it to that Arab Dream site.

[Virgil]

Hehe, if you are the thief, then a good stoning might be the right punishment. :p