View Full Version : Is there a film about Hemingway and Fitzgerald?
kelby_lake
07-29-2009, 11:38 AM
Like their friendship?
General Urko
07-29-2009, 12:14 PM
I don't know of any feature films, but I'm sure there have been some documentaries and PBS series and things like that that have addressed it. Also, supposedly James Gandolfini is going to be playing Hemingway in an upcoming movie about his life, so maybe that'll be your answer.
dfloyd
08-27-2009, 05:36 PM
very close friends. Hemingway admired Fitzgerald's writing, but deplored his drinking. He wondered how a man so talented could be a drunkard. There is a story, I think it is in A Moveable Feast, where in a drunken Fitzgerald has just brought his car to France. Fitzgerald decides he wants a convertible, and has the top cut off his car while inebriated. Hemingway hated this type of behaviour. Also, Hemingway questions how Fitzgeral could write such beautiful prose, but pepper his speech with scatological and sexual inuendos.
Brad Coelho
08-27-2009, 07:21 PM
There is a book about their relationship, called 'Fitzgerald vs. Hemingway:'
http://classiclit.about.com/cs/productreviews/fr/aafpr_hemfitz.htm
I am not sure if this would be the template for a movie (I haven't heard about the rights being sold for a screenplay). It appears to be more in line w/ their rivalry as opposed to kinship. Hemingway's A Moveable Feast was very condescending in regards to his Fitzgerald portrayal, topping it off during the bit where Fitzgerald supposedly asked Hemingway to reassure him that the size of his genitals were adequate.
I dunno - there is a non-fiction memoir account from Canadian ex-pat Morley Callaghan called "That Summer in Paris: Memories of Tangled Friendships with Hemingway, Fitzgerald and Some Others" that goes around is quoted about their relationship, but, other than some individual biographies on both authors, I am not sure a specific movie featuring a focus on their relationship exists. The famous bit of Callaghan beating up Hemingway in a boxing match while Fitzgerald, who was keeping the time, let the round run an extra 5 minutes is probably the most well known episode in the text.
bluosean
08-28-2009, 03:48 AM
An extra five minutes! Go Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald is one of my favorite writers. I despise Hemingway. I have to say that I too don't believe that they were friends. They might have been called friends but I dont think that they liked eachother that much. hum...I am having trouble explaining this, but there are lots of people that I have socialized with (even went out of my way to socialise with) that I did not like. I wouldnt be surprised if they did like eachother, that is just not the impression that I get from some of the things that they have said.
kelby_lake
08-28-2009, 01:11 PM
There is a book about their relationship, called 'Fitzgerald vs. Hemingway:'
http://classiclit.about.com/cs/productreviews/fr/aafpr_hemfitz.htm
I am not sure if this would be the template for a movie (I haven't heard about the rights being sold for a screenplay). It appears to be more in line w/ their rivalry as opposed to kinship. Hemingway's A Moveable Feast was very condescending in regards to his Fitzgerald portrayal, topping it off during the bit where Fitzgerald supposedly asked Hemingway to reassure him that the size of his genitals were adequate.
I think it's really only a one-way friendship. The impression you get reading factual books is that Fitzgerald worships him (although he can't spell Hemingway's name) and Hemingway despises him, despite the fact that Hemingway wasn't exactly a saint.
talking about Hamingway, I heard on a radio show (but this doesn't necessarily mean that it is true), that there is a new musical, on Broadway about the day he commited suicide. :mad: which if it is true.... I think is sick...
kelby_lake
08-30-2009, 07:49 AM
It closed quite quickly in London so doubt it'll stay long on Broadway. It's supposed to be comic as well, I think. But don't worry, it was slated in London and doubt it'll fare much better on Broadway.
Brad Coelho
08-30-2009, 12:31 PM
The passage in For Whom the Bell Tolls that covered Robert Jordan's disgust towards his father for killing himself (while contrarily revering his grandfather's valor) bothered me all the more knowing how Hemingway expired...kind of reminded me how Orson Wells was almost a self-fullfilling prophecy in his portrayal of Kane. Life imitating art.
NickAdams
08-30-2009, 12:54 PM
An extra five minutes! Go Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald is one of my favorite writers. I despise Hemingway. I have to say that I too don't believe that they were friends. They might have been called friends but I dont think that they liked eachother that much. hum...I am having trouble explaining this, but there are lots of people that I have socialized with (even went out of my way to socialise with) that I did not like. I wouldnt be surprised if they did like eachother, that is just not the impression that I get from some of the things that they have said.
You can get a better understanding of their relationship through their letters to each other. Hemingway also wrote to others concerning Fitzgerald.
I think it's really only a one-way friendship. The impression you get reading factual books is that Fitzgerald worships him (although he can't spell Hemingway's name) and Hemingway despises him, despite the fact that Hemingway wasn't exactly a saint.
It wasn't only Fitzgerald: Hemingway turned on a lot of his friends.
Also, supposedly James Gandolfini is going to be playing Hemingway in an upcoming movie about his life, so maybe that'll be your answer.
:lol:
kelby_lake
05-21-2011, 11:11 AM
You can get a better understanding of their relationship through their letters to each other. Hemingway also wrote to others concerning Fitzgerald.
It wasn't only Fitzgerald: Hemingway turned on a lot of his friends.
:lol:
The letters are actually really interesting :)
Mariner
05-21-2011, 04:15 PM
I think it's really only a one-way friendship. The impression you get reading factual books is that Fitzgerald worships him (although he can't spell Hemingway's name) and Hemingway despises him, despite the fact that Hemingway wasn't exactly a saint.
Actually, when Fitzgerald met Hemingway, Fitzgerald was the established, better-known author. Hemingway recognized Fitzgerald in a French bar and introduced himself as a fan and a writer and eventually Fitzgerald helped edit Hemingway's first novel, "The Sun Also Rises."
They continued to have a up-and-down relationship, and many problems of their relationship started with Zelda, Fitzgerald's wife.
If anyone's interested, a Woody Allen movie opened yesterday called 'Midnight in Paris' about a struggling writer (Owen Wilson) vacationing in Paris with his family. Somehow he travels back in time at night and talks with Hemingway, Fitzgerald and Gertrude Stien. Looks intriguing.
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