New World Order

[Zee.]

Can someone please explain to me this concept. There has been a lot of talk about it and people keep talking about "chips" and the idea of "waking up"

Please break it down in very simple terms haha

[PoeticPassions]

Basically there are two uses of the term "New World Order" in an International Relations arena. One refers to Woodrow Wilson's time and the creation of the League of Nations. It was seen as an era (after WWI) of no more wars... of a world organization that would govern, of collective security, and peace.

The other usage, and perhaps more relevant one to our time, (used by Gorbachev and George HW Bush) defines the post-cold War era where there was a shift in balance of powers (from two regional hegemonies competing for power) to one quite large hegemon (the U.S) and more global integration and International Organizations. The New World Order also has a focus on nuclear disarmament, strenghtening security, cooperation between superpowers, economic integration, non-violence, and so on.

This new world order after the Cold War was seen as a global political "awakening."

These are the basics... but if you want to know more details, I would just google it and read some articles about it. There is a lot of information out there :)

[Zee.]

so what are these talks of the 'anti christ'

and why is this "nwo" being opposed by a lot of people?

[BienvenuJDC]

As far as the "chips", people are probably referring to the "mark of the beast" which is a bar code (or chip) marked on your hand or forehead. This is obtained from the book of Revelation in the Bible. I have well studied the Bible, and even though I cannot explain everything in Revelation, I feel confident to say that the vast majority of what these people teach is radical beyond belief. I don't believe that there is any particular "THE Anti-Christ". There are many individuals, groups, and "the such" that may be considered "anti" to Christ, but I don't think that the Bible was referring to any "great" power for an opposition.

You can get tattoos on on your hands and forehead... as long as your dad won't flip out over having 56 stars tattooed on your face.

Although I may not be in favor of a New World Order, there is nothing that the Bible says for or against it. I don't think that it will ever happen...even though there are those who want to do it. It is as dangerous as one company having a monopoly on a product. Those in power will be corrupted... "power corrupts, absolute power...corrupts absolutely."

[Virgil]

Some people use that term to refer to a global government, and strikes at a fear of lack of sovereignty (sp?). Well, just imagine if the world was integrated into one world gov't and the 1.2 billion Chinese voted against your 21 million in Austrailia. Your cultural values would be wiped out and absorbed into those of larger countries. I would fight tooth and nail against such a concept. People jump to this conclusion because of all the international agreements between countries. But these agreements mostly have to do with a level playing field for trade and commerce. I don't think there is much to this one world gov't vision. (Ok, I know I'm going to get violent reactions on that statement. :D) I'll tell you this, I would fight a world gov't concept tooth and nail.

[Zee.]

As far as the "chips", people are probably referring to the "mark of the beast" which is a bar code (or chip) marked on your hand or forehead. This is obtained from the book of Revelation in the Bible. I have well studied the Bible, and even though I cannot explain everything in Revelation, I feel confident to say that the vast majority of what these people teach is radical beyond belief. I don't believe that there is any particular "THE Anti-Christ". There are many individuals, groups, and "the such" that may be considered "anti" to Christ, but I don't think that the Bible was referring to any "great" power for an opposition.

You can get tattoos on on your hands and forehead... as long as your dad won't flip out over having 56 stars tattooed on your face.

Although I may not be in favor of a New World Order, there is nothing that the Bible says for or against it. I don't think that it will ever happen...even though there are those who want to do it. It is as dangerous as one company having a monopoly on a product. Those in power will be corrupted... "power corrupts, absolute power...corrupts absolutely."


Okay thats what im talking about, how do "chips" and the anti christ have to do with a New World Order?


Also - it's hard to believe the world could merge and exist under one government. VERY, hard to believe.

[crystalmoonshin]

From what I understood so far, the concept of the New World Order came from the plans of the Illuminati (an underground society of intellectuals) to dominate the world after three great wars. According to a book I'm currently reading "Mas alla de Angeles y Demonios" ("Beyond Angels and Demons", by Rene Chandelle, which explores the Illuminati from the work of Dan Brown and from historical accounts) that society still exists and its members have infiltrated economic institutions and are still after the realization of their goals.

As for the anti-Christ thing... They believe that Lucifer (luz=light) is the true bringer of truth. This is consistent with one of their plans of bringing down the Catholic church and promote atheism.

It is also believed that with the technological progress, Orwell's Big Brother may just become a reality, with the Illuminati becoming omniscient and omnipotent.

I don't know if it's all true though. I hope it isn't.

[papayahed]

My favorite New World Order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87b4a4a2wmY

[crystalmoonshin]

Okay thats what im talking about, how do "chips" and the anti christ have to do with a New World Order?


Also - it's hard to believe the world could merge and exist under one government. VERY, hard to believe.

I think Bienvenue and I have the same idea on this "chip" thing. I've read somewhere around three years ago I think, that there's a newly invented chip small enough to be embedded in humans and that this chip can only be installed either on the forehead or on the right hand. This chip acts as a tracker and as a credit card.

Take a look at Revelations 13:16 (mine's King James Version) "And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads," (The 'he' here refers to the beast, the anti-Christ.)

[BienvenuJDC]

Okay thats what im talking about, how do "chips" and the anti christ have to do with a New World Order?


Also - it's hard to believe the world could merge and exist under one government. VERY, hard to believe.

As far as I'm concerned...if you choose to believe that Bible (as I do), and if John was writing to WHOEVER his audience was in AD 96, what sense would the mark of the beast have made if it was referring to technology that wouldn't be around for nearly 2000 years. Beware of religious radicals...(I know that some of you may think that I myself am radical, but hey...we're talking about this right now).

[JBI]

Essentially, since there are no more directly competing factions, it's another way to say that the world is going to move into a new order, that of power shifted to corporations and certain institutions, and a disappearing of nationalist and regionalist sentiments in favor of mass market consumerism.

The order then, essentially means, we can bring down all borders, talk to everyone, come in, take what we want, all for the sake of "the economy (stupid)" since there is, essentially, no more Warsaw Pact working as an apposing force, and therefore, everything essentially stands ready for the plucking - like a newly discovered continent just ready to have Shell come in and "modernize" everything.

Essentially, the term just refers to a power shift, and, if one is a firm marxist, can be read as another synthesis in a long line of dialectics. I see very little change personally, and this so called new world order is merely a political ploy, but perhaps the Bush Doctrine does constitute a New World Order (now which one am I talking about?).

[BienvenuJDC]

Essentially, since there are no more directly competing factions, it's another way to say that the world is going to move into a new order, that of power shifted to corporations and certain institutions, and a disappearing of nationalist and regionalist sentiments in favor of mass market consumerism.

The order then, essentially means, we can bring down all borders, talk to everyone, come in, take what we want, all for the sake of "the economy (stupid)" since there is, essentially, no more Warsaw Pact working as an apposing force, and therefore, everything essentially stands ready for the plucking - like a newly discovered continent just ready to have Shell come in and "modernize" everything.

That actually sounds kind of scary. I'm really not sure who I would trust more (or least)...the corporations...or the State.

[blazeofglory]

New world order is something all of us crave for today.

The question is how can world order can be brought about. In fact all of us are waging a kind of war with one another. And we people living in this era are warring.

The greatest war today is the ideological war, for it is deadlier and it sheds more blood. It has far reaching effects.

Today we know we have so many fundamentalists and fanatics who do not take arsenals but their ideas and ideologies are dangerous weapons and they are silent killers or slow poisons.

Then how can we expect that the world will have ever order.

[The Atheist]

Can someone please explain to me this concept. There has been a lot of talk about it and people keep talking about "chips" and the idea of "waking up"

Please break it down in very simple terms haha

Easy.

What you've seen/heard, is conspiracy theorist rubbish.

Most of them are an excuse to cover up antisemitism and quite absurd. Doesn't stop people believing it, though. Just forget you ever heard the term.

Of course, all of the above is said in my guise as a shill for the NWO itself. I am paid millions of dollars a year as a disinformation agent.

;)

[Insomniac]

Easy.

What you've seen/heard, is conspiracy theorist rubbish.

Most of them are an excuse to cover up antisemitism and quite absurd. Doesn't stop people believing it, though. Just forget you ever heard the term.

Of course, all of the above is said in my guise as a shill for the NWO itself. I am paid millions of dollars a year as a disinformation agent.

;)

Ah, I see, a double bluff.

Or is it a triple?

Ah, heck, I don't know. Yer confusin meh.

Edit: ha ha, forgot to say what I was gonna say.

I agree with The Atheist. It's like when 9/11 happened. You had overwhelming evidence that what happened was a terrorist attack, but there are still people who believe that it was our own government that caused everything. Unfortunately, when you listen to their reasoning, it seems like they may have a logical point or two. They're just brainwashing you, though.

And it's like the people who say that we didn't go to the moon. If you listen to their stories and arguments, you go, "Golly Gee Willickers! That could all be true! There's almost no way we could have gone to the moon!"

You just gotta hear both sides of the story. I almost believed that the moon landing was staged when I watched a "news documentary" about it, but then I read some opposing facts that explained away the conspiracy. And now I know we did go to the moon. I think.

The bottom line is, the generations now probably won't live to see, or even have to worry about, a New World Order. It's probably a long time in coming, if it ever does.

[The Atheist]

Ah, I see, a double bluff.

Or is it a triple?

You'll never know.

Until one day....

Ah, heck, I don't know. Yer confusin meh.

Edit: ha ha, forgot to say what I was gonna say.


And now I know we did go to the moon. I think.

One thing about Moon Hoaxers; they have given us the greatest YouTube ever. Some disgusting little worm going up to Buzz Aldrin at age 70-something and accusing Buzz of coweardice! Aldrin then turns around and gives the mealy-mouthed little scum exactly what he deserved - a hook in the mouth.

I'm no fan of violence, but it's the most deserving punch ever. Like him or hate him, the guts needed to strap yourself into a Saturn V rocket makes Aldrin one of the gutsiest blokes who's ever lived.

I love CTists!

:lol: