Michael Jackson has died aged 50

[Michael T]

Michael Jackson, a pop icon, has died at the age of 50. Leave your comments here.


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R.I.P.

[mono]

Unbelievable! No offense, Michael T, but I had to look it up to make sure this proved as no joke. A heart attack - how awful, especially at only 50 years! What a tragedy - rest in peace, King of Pop.

[Niamh]

Unbelievable. My housemates brother just rang and she thought he was joking.
R>I>P> Jackson.

[Virgil]

I heard. It's all over the TV here. He was a talented man, an energetic man, but a troubled man. Whatever his demons were, I do not think he was an evil man. May he rest in peace.

[1n50mn14]

Time for a giant Michael Jackson themed party in my basement. Costumes required.

[andave_ya]

yeah. poor guy. a great performer, but, as Virg said, a troubled man.

[pussnboots]

Can not believe it. Makes me want to find my Thriller album.

[Stargazer86]

It is shockingly unexpected. A true music talent. But he definately had his demons...


Also RIP Farrah Fawcett 6/25/2009

[Beautifull]

What?! He's died!? When?!

[Virgil]

Also RIP Farrah Fawcett 6/25/2009

Yes that is sad also.

[rtc143]

R.I.P. is all there is to say. good guy

[Zee.]

I really, really hope people don't mouth him off and remember him for his, as one reporter poorly put it here "muddy past"
we all have your pasts, he should be remember for what and who he was. King of pop and a genius. Death of an era.

R.I.P Michael + Farrah Fawcett

[MarkBastable]

This is going to bankrupt the O2, which is a pity.

[Beautifull]

:bawling: but...ah, this is sad news! i can't think of...but he had a well-lived life...most of the time,but i still can't grasp the reality of it! oh what a sad sad....

[amanda_isabel]

tsk. That greeted me on the morning news, and my friend sent it around. The death of a legend.

Rest in Peace.

Fara Fawcett too. Didn't she just say she was engaged though? :(

[acdouglas92]

Really, how sad. I think we should remember his good moments...i.e, with the Jackson 5, Thriller. He truly was the KING of Pop. R.I.P. Michael.

[eyemaker]

Really, how sad. I think we should remember his good moments...i.e, with the Jackson 5, Thriller. He truly was the KING of Pop. R.I.P. Michael.

Ya, may he rest in peace

[imthefoolonthehill]

Millions of 8 year olds have breathed a sigh of relief.

May he rest in pain.

[motherhubbard]

Can not believe it. Makes me want to find my Thriller album.

I'm a little sad about it. I loved the Thriller album. I think it was one of the best albums ever! I still listen to it sometimes. Victor Hugo said that to die is nothing but it is terrible not to live. I think Jacko had a sad kind of existence.

[Chava]

RIP Jackson, i'm going to dig out my Jackson five records, and then dance the day away.

[PoeticPassions]

I loved MJ... I'm pretty sad about it.

I will listen to his songs now at work.

Rest in peace, Michael. He never grew up, psychologically... I don't think he ever had bad intentions, but was so unaware of things. He truly lived in Neverland...

will be missed!

[Niamh]

yes cant forget Fawcett or Carson. two others who died this week. may they both rest in peace.

[amarna]

He was an off-key personality but a musical genius. Fly, fly away, Peter Pan.

[lupe]

His personnal life does not interest me, but his music was of awfully bad taste.

[TheInsomniac]

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[Virgil]

yes cant forget Fawcett or Carson. two others who died this week. may they both rest in peace.

Not Carson Niamh, you must mean Ed McMahon. Seems to come in threes as they say.

[muhsin]

Too bad.

[Niamh]

Not Carson Niamh, you must mean Ed McMahon. Seems to come in threes as they say.

oops! dont know why but that name was in my head. yes i meant McMahon.

[Buh4Bee]

His personnal life does not interest me, but his music was of awfully bad taste.

We all are entitled to our own opinions, but I think many, many would disagree with you about his music. His personal life was a challenging tale.

RIP

[papayahed]

I really, really hope people don't mouth him off and remember him for his, as one reporter poorly put it here "muddy past"
we all have your pasts, he should be remember for what and who he was. King of pop and a genius. Death of an era.




I really liked his music also but "what and who he was" was a great artist AND a troubled man that had inappropriate relationships with young boys.

[amuse]

I was in shock yesterday. Kept hoping some local station would play "Got to be There" but for the most part they played his better known songs over and over. I had the biggest crush on him when I was 13 or 14 and Thriller came out...
R.I.P....



[Kvetch: a casual friend called to let me know (though I did already) and proceeded to read him the riot act through me, why do people make such a big deal of celebs dying as if they are more important souls than the average joe...GRRR! We aren't bloody cultural icons who gave the world songs of indescribable - everything. Can't believe she said that.]

[lupe]

We all are entitled to our own opinions, but I think many, many would disagree with you about his music.
RIP

I know; the contrary would have make me doubt about my knowledge of mysic and my taste in general.

If we want to be precise, calling Michael Jackson a "musician" is already an overstatement. He was a good dancer but otherwise a pure product of the show-biz machine.

He did not compose anything that can be called "music", most of its products having been created by machines and other professionnals who are virtually unknown.

[bazarov]

Pedophile and man who was ashamed of his origins - rest in Inferno's 10th circle.

[jekan blazer]

i just heard about this...
its kinda depressing...
id say my favorite song is "thriller" because it is funny...
http://www.fuse.tv/ this link is a music video site, and is currently paying tribute to the king of pop... check it out...:bawling:

[Hank Stamper]

He did not compose anything that can be called "music", most of its products having been created by machines and other professionnals who are virtually unknown.

right, because nobody has ever heard of quincy jones.....

whether it is music you like or not, it is still music - such a flippant remark is simply born of snobbery

i think the fact his music has transcended the generations proves that he is one of, if not the greatest pop star of all time.. he might have peaked a long time ago but his music still sounds as good today as it did back then... his thriller and off the wall albums particularly

taste is obviously a subjective thing, but even the most obstinate of music snobs would have to concede the man was incredibly talented whether you like his music or not

i imagine itunes are quids in today

[jekan blazer]

i have an idea...
lets all pay a tribute to michael jackson by putting a pic of him on our avatar!
whos in?

[Emil Miller]

[QUOTE=Hank Stamper;742587] taste is obviously a subjective thing, but even the most obstinate of music snobs would have to concede the man was incredibly talented whether you like his music or not /QUOTE]

Nope.

[Zee.]

Pedophile and man who was ashamed of his origins - rest in Inferno's 10th circle.



What happened to the whole "innocent until proven guilty"
he was on trial in a democratic country and he was proven innocent. He should not have that weight carried around on him. He's a free man. So should his conscience be.



It really, really upsets me when i'm watching these tributes on tv and they're focusing on his "muddy past". After all that hard work and that's what people are remembering him for? People sicken me, honestly I can't come to terms with it.

Someone before said he was a "good dancer"
He wasn't JUST a good dancer. The guy could dance. He could dance like no other.
Whether you liked him or not it is undeniable that he was a genius. He was absolutely brilliant. This thread is about remembrance and a way to pay respects to a passing great, not how many of us can spit on his name.

[*Classic*Charm*]

Pedophile and man who was ashamed of his origins - rest in Inferno's 10th circle.

Whew, glad someone else said it so I didn't have to.

He was an incredibly talented child. It's very sad that he became so screwed up.

I'm sorry, but things he did in his life just cannot be overlooked.

[Zee.]

I really liked his music also but "what and who he was" was a great artist AND a troubled man that had inappropriate relationships with young boys.

Inappropriate?
No one really knows what happened with that. But no matter what happened, he was proven innocent. I'm not saying that when you're proven innocent you're obviously innocent of the crime but in this case, we should give him the benefit of the doubt because what else do we know? we have what the media tells us.

He was proven innocent. He should be able to rest in peace without little footnotes by people saying he was a pedophile and should rot in hell.

[papayahed]

Inappropriate?
No one really knows what happened with that. But no matter what happened, he was proven innocent. I'm not saying that when you're proven innocent you're obviously innocent of the crime but in this case, we should give him the benefit of the doubt because what else do we know? we have what the media tells us.

He was proven innocent. He should be able to rest in peace without little footnotes by people saying he was a pedophile and should rot in hell.


We know that in an interview he said that he doesn't see the harm in sleeping in the same bed as young boys. Would you let your child sleep in a bed with a grown man that isn't his parent? Unless you are related that is inappropriate.

He also paid millions of dollars to make molestation charges go away AND in the civil suit that was brought against him after he was proven "innocent".

[Zee.]

We know that in an interview he said that he doesn't see the harm in sleeping in the same bed as young boys. Would you let your child sleep in a bed with a grown man that isn't his parent? Unless you are related that is inappropriate.

He also paid millions of dollars to make molestation charges go away AND in the civil suit that was brought against him after he was proven "innocent".



I saw that interview and you're incorrect. He "shared" his bed with the child. He slept on the floor and the child slept in the bed. And to be honest, yeah obviously sharing a bed is a problem if one of them is a pedophile a serial killer or a rapist but i don't believe him to be any of what I have just listed.

Point is, the guy is dead. He should be remembered for his fantastic musical contribution to millions of lives.

[AimusSage]

People who are quick to judge the deceased should look in the mirror and ask themselves the question how they wish to be remembered; for their mistakes or for their accomplishments? MJ was a talented musician, yes, he actually did write and compose a lot of his own songs, believe it or not. He was a talented dancer, he was a troubled man. May he rest in peace, as he didn't have any in his life.

[papayahed]

I saw that interview and you're incorrect. He "shared" his bed with the child. He slept on the floor and the child slept in the bed. And to be honest, yeah obviously sharing a bed is a problem if one of them is a pedophile a serial killer or a rapist but i don't believe him to be any of what I have just listed.

Point is, the guy is dead. He should be remembered for his fantastic musical contribution to millions of lives.

because that makes it not weird?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2279938/posts:
Jackson: "No. But I have slept in a bed with many children. "I slept in a bed with all of them when Macauley Culkin was little: Kieran Culkin would sleep on this side, Macauley Culkin was on this side, his sisters in there...we all would just jam in the bed, you know. "We would wake up like dawn and go in the hot air balloon, you know, we had the footage. I have all that footage."


I don't want to argue about what he was, I like his music but there is no denying he was a trouble man. Just because he made great music doesn't make him a saint.

[Zee.]

No one said he was a saint. We all make our mistakes. The point is, he was a greater man than a lot of people - but hey, lets all focus on how he was a "troubled" man, which I think is ridiculous to be honest. He made his mistakes and he paid his dues.

Does anyone bother to mention his devotion and unwavering generosity to charity? no.
All i've been hearing is that he's a "kiddy fiddler who can dance" how incredibly sad.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[1n50mn14]

Seeing some of the responses here really peeved me, and then I saw Limajean's responses, and I agree with every word she's said.

He's dead. Let it go. Don't believe everything the media tells you (duh) and let somebody rest in peace without spitting on their god damned grave. Regardless of what his personal life entailed (which really is none of our business anyway, unless it actually WAS causing harm to another being), he was a great dancer, and a fantastic musician who'll go down with the likes of Elvis.

[Nick Capozzoli]

He was a supremely talented and equally troubled artist. He may have been a pedophile, but to be fair to him, he was never convicted in a criminal court. He produced a lot of popular music and was at the top as a musical performer. He died suddenly and unexpectedly at 50. We'll have to wait for the ME's full autopsy report, but I'll bet that drugs were involved, as with Elvis... I don't think it was a run-of-the-mill "heart attack" in someone with gunked up coronary arteries...More likely respiratory arrest due to opiates or sedative-hypnotics, or perhaps a lethal cardiac dysrthmia due to drugs. This would be relevant to another ongoing post on this site re legalization of illegal drugs...:(

Nick

[Virgil]

He was a supremely talented and equally troubled artist. He may have been a pedophile, but to be fair to him, he was never convicted in a criminal court. He produced a lot of popular music and was at the top as a musical performer. He died suddenly and unexpectedly at 50. We'll have to wait for the ME's full autopsy report, but I'll bet that drugs were involved, as with Elvis... I don't think it was a run-of-the-mill "heart attack" in someone with gunked up coronary arteries...More likely respiratory arrest due to opiates or sedative-hypnotics, or perhaps a lethal cardiac dysrthmia due to drugs. This would be relevant to another ongoing post on this site re legalization of illegal drugs...:(

Nick

Completely agree with you Nick. Drugs were probably involved and while I've stopped posting in that druggie thread this really shows why drugs need to stay outlawed. And Michael Jackson even had a doctor at the house administering the drugs.

[Zee.]

really shows why drugs need to stay outlawed..

Won't change a thing.


I was watching an interview with Michael's lawyer and he said that if the autopsy proves that prescription drugs were involved in his death, he wont keep quiet about it and will stand up against them because he repeatedly told Michael to lay off them.

[JBI]

It is shockingly unexpected. A true music talent. But he definately had his demons...


Also RIP Farrah Fawcett 6/25/2009

Somehow she made more press time than Jackson - it seems people can remember their lust but not their music.

[mono]

Millions of 8 year olds have breathed a sigh of relief.

May he rest in pain.

Pedophile and man who was ashamed of his origins - rest in Inferno's 10th circle.

He may have been a pedophile
No offense, guys, but perhaps you did not hear the news? All federal courts of judges and juries the country (perhaps your country, using your tax dollars?) has selected and payed for acquitted Michael Jackson of all charges of sexual abuse in 2005 - not exactly news anymore. Thereby, more evidence exists of his not sexually abusing children than of millions of 8-year olds sighing simultaneously following his cardiac arrest, something as absurd as the existence of inferno.
De mortuis nil nisi bonum ("Let nothing be said of the dead, but good") - Chilon

I don't think it was a run-of-the-mill "heart attack" in someone with gunked up coronary arteries...More likely respiratory arrest due to opiates or sedative-hypnotics, or perhaps a lethal cardiac dysrthmia due to drugs.
Chronic stress, such as getting suspected a pedophile for 12 years, then getting continued called the insult for another 4 years, following his acquital, can also contribute to the origins of a myocardial infarction. He obviously abused drugs, prescription drugs among them, likely due to chronic pain from so many surgeries, depression, anxiety, etc., but I certainly think chronic stress and internalized hostility as possible culprits, too - just an idea, but what does a guy who works in critical care medicine know? :rolleyes:

[LostPrincess13]

My teacher came in the room yesterday and announced that Michael Jackson was dead. I was too sleepy to make the connection. Then later that evening I saw on the news that the Michael Jackson he was talking about was THE Michael Jackson. I was in shock, numb. I just couldn't believe it! I guess I've always had a soft spot for the man. Seeing his videos on tv and hearing his songs on the radio makes me want to cry. :( He lived a checkered life and not many people understand him. And now that he's gone, we may never well know what happened to him.

I don't know what to say... *sniff*

[Stargazer86]

Somehow she made more press time than Jackson - it seems people can remember their lust but not their music.


Actually, in death, he's made WAY more press than she has. Look at what the bigger focus has been over the past couple of days. The reason she'd made press before was because she was documenting her battle with cancer.

Sheesh. Merely an acknowledgement of a woman who battled and died of a horrible illness that affects many. With everyone remembering mj, what's wrong with making a respectful mention of her?

[Zee.]

I'm very glad she was mentioned, and i'm glad people took the time to mention her in the tribute shows to Michael Jackson.
She was beautiful.

[Niamh]

Completely agree with you Nick. Drugs were probably involved and while I've stopped posting in that druggie thread this really shows why drugs need to stay outlawed. And Michael Jackson even had a doctor at the house administering the drugs.

These are more than likely perscription drugs... some of which might be legal in other countries. Can ban all drugs that have potential threat because some people abuse them...

Anyway, this is supposed to be a memorial thread, whether it be good or bad, he made an impact on the people of this planet. He is dead now, so let him rest.

[papayahed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB2RPWZ6qKc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hz2am90Hk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYVT3Gg_rek

[muhsin]

May the Almighty God grant his (MJ's) soul an eternal peace, amin.

But saying this and that against a dead person is no good. Lets just remain silent and hope for the better turn of ours. Right?

[Virgil]

Somehow she made more press time than Jackson - it seems people can remember their lust but not their music.


Actually, in death, he's made WAY more press than she has. Look at what the bigger focus has been over the past couple of days. The reason she'd made press before was because she was documenting her battle with cancer.

Sheesh. Merely an acknowledgement of a woman who battled and died of a horrible illness that affects many. With everyone remembering mj, what's wrong with making a respectful mention of her?

Sometimes I wonder about JBI's perceptions. I can't speak to where he lives, but around here Jackson's death has completely, completely overshadowed Fawcet's.

[Zee.]

Overshadowed? definitely. Check this out

http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/top10albums.html?aosid=p204&siteid=1105290&program_id=3469&tduid=88d4867b9a9395fe34d5a4f5200d7356&aosid=p204

[Virgil]

Wow, thanks. :)

[Joreads]

Sometimes I wonder about JBI's perceptions. I can't speak to where he lives, but around here Jackson's death has completely, completely overshadowed Fawcet's.

It is the same here Virgil you cannot turn on a tv without seeing MJ nd every radio station is playing his music.

[Niamh]

cant turn on the radio, walk into a shop, look at a paper or switch on a TV here without seeing his face or hearing his songs...

[blazeofglory]

He was really great, and he kin of enthralled his audience through his thrillers.

[Hank Stamper]

[QUOTE=Hank Stamper;742587] taste is obviously a subjective thing, but even the most obstinate of music snobs would have to concede the man was incredibly talented whether you like his music or not /QUOTE]

Nope.

well no you are right you don't have to concede anything, but the fact of the matter is that he was incredibly talented and one would have to have a very narrow view of things to believe otherwise

taste is subjective, talent isn't

[jekan blazer]

i found his autopsy report...


Harrowing leaked autopsy details show the singer was a virtual skeleton — barely eating and with only pills in his stomach at the time he died.
His hips, thighs and shoulders were riddled with needle wounds — believed to be the result of injections of narcotic painkillers, given three times a day for years.
And a mass of surgery scars were thought to be the legacy of at least 13 cosmetic operations.
The examination showed the 5ft 10in star — once famed for his on-stage athleticism — had:
PLUNGED to a “severely emaciated” 8th 1oz. It is understood anorexic Jackson had been eating just one meager meal a day.
Pathologists found his stomach empty aside from partially-dissolved pills he took before the painkiller injection which stopped his heart. Samples were sent for toxicology tests.
LOST virtually all his hair. The pop pin-up was wearing a wig when he died and pathologists said little more than “peach fuzz” covered his scalp.
A scarred section of skin above his left ear was entirely bald — apparently the result of a 1984 accident when his hair caught fire as he filmed an ad for Pepsi.
SUFFERED several broken ribs as frantic rescuers pumped his chest after he collapsed in cardiac arrest. Four injection sites were found above or near to Jackson’s heart.
All appeared to result from attempts to pump adrenaline directly into the organ in a failed bit to restart it.
Three of the injections had penetrated the heart wall — causing damage — but a fourth missed and hit one of the 50-year-old star’s ribs.
The autopsy also found unexplained BRUISING on Jackson’s knees and on the fronts of both shins. And there were CUTS on his back, indicating a recent fall.
The King of Pop’s once handsome face bore a network of plastic surgery scars, while the bridge to his nose had vanished and its right side had partially collapsed.
As inquiries into the tragedy last night focused on the star’s personal physician Dr Conrad Murray, a source close to the Jackson entourage said: “Michael’s family and fans will be horrified when they realized the appalling state he was in.
“He was skin and bone, his hair had fallen out and had been eating nothing but pills when he died. Injection marks all over his body and the disfigurement caused by years of plastic surgery show he’d been in terminal decline for years.
“His doctors and the hangers-on stood by as he self-destructed. Somebody is going to have to pay.”
Cardiologist Dr Murray was thought to have given Jackson the final injection of painkiller Demerol.
He is facing serious questions about his resuscitation attempts, which began when he started CPR as Jackson lay unconscious on a bed. Basic first aid guidance says patients must be face-up on a hard surface before compressions.
Experts yesterday expressed amazement that a trained cardiologist could have made such an error, potentially wasting vital minutes.
Additional damage was believed to have been caused by oxygen masks and tubing inserted during resuscitation attempts. But in an ironic twist, the probe found Jackson was recovering well from skin cancer — with an op to shave cells from his chest a total success.
A second autopsy demanded by the Jackson family was carried out at a secret location on Saturday after the first ruled out foul play.
Family friend Rev Jesse Jackson said the family were deeply suspicious about what caused his death.
Dr Murray was hired just 11 days ago by AEG Live — the firm masterminding Jacko’s 50-date residency at London’s O2 Arena, which was due to start next month.
Sources claimed the family were preparing a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the cardiologist.
Detectives were unable to find the doctor at Jackson’s home and his car was taken away for analysis as police sought him for questioning. He surfaced late on Friday and was quizzed over the weekend.
The Sun told on Saturday how Jackson had developed stage fright for the first time and was terrified of performing the comeback gigs.
Aides claimed the ailing star even believed he would be KILLED if he pulled out on health grounds. We also revealed he was taking a potentially toxic cocktail of drugs.
Sources last night said prescriptions for drugs for patients other than Jackson were found at his home. Those patients were due to be quizzed