Do we need a new prophet?

[blazeofglory]

The need for a new prophet

Today I feel we need a new prophet. Prophets arrive in this world at different intervals and the sole objective is to cleanse all of us of our impurity and profligacy. This planet is common to all no matter wherein you are born; no matter what faces you have; no matter which tongues you speak.

The most essential sine qua non is we are losing controls, morals, values today. All of us want just power, money and we do not value other things. Maybe every epoch needs a prophet to correct itself. Today every where people see rampart violence. Fundamentalists and fanatics are looming large on all of us. People in different parts of the world are indoctrinated or programmed to be suicide-bombers.

We think that we are modernized, globalized; we have savvied ourselves technologically. Our life styles have been easier and of course we have more means of communication. We have amassed lots of wealth over this short time.
But we are imperiling ourselves.
Today we need a new leader of prophetic revelation. Such leaders arrive here once in a while through mutation. Commoditization of humans is on the increase.

[lupe]

The fact that there are no more "prophets" during our times - when more and more people escape from poverty, ignorance and superstitious delusions and find their way to knowledge and emancipation - should have make you think about the real value of those who came during darker times...

Instead of charlatans of revelation or return to traditional "values and morals", what we need is to work together, so as progress and education reach most of our fellow citizens. We need solidarity between people, so as the weakest are supported and helped; we need freedom and openness to cultivate our enormous human capacities for the good of everyone.

[JacobF]

But behind the beaming halos and virtuous followers that prophets are host to is an ugly shadow that reveals itself as soon as the prophet dies. And, as history has shown, the shadow they leave behind causes disputes, bickering, war, and encourages the 'impurities' that these prophets are apparently supposed to cure.

If every era needs a prophet to correct itself then what is the use of a prophet? If we know they are disposable then don't you think we need a new way of solving issues rather than simply a new prophet? Our faults don't stem from the absence of a prophet, but from many factors which are intrinsic to humans. And these factors -- such as greed, fundamentalism and fanaticism like you point out -- will generally always stay with us, in some degree or another.

I don't think we should rely on a prophet to solve our 'impurities,' but like lupe says, we should start relying on ourselves.

[tailor STATELY]

"Do we need a new prophet?"

Loaded question ?

There have been Prophets on the earth in modern times... even today.

Hymns frequently sung at the church I attend illustrate this point nicely: "Come, Listen to a Prophet's Voice... (And hear the word of God")"; "We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet... (To guide us in these latter days").

From "The Articles of Faith" (http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106-1-2-1,00.html) of my faith:

6. "We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth."

9. "We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God."... And thus the need for Prophets to reveal the word of God to those who seek them.

The word of God, revealed by the Prophets, is available to all, believers and non-believers alike.

A search at my faith's web site using the word "Prophet" comes up with hundreds of articles and references... with words of faith, inspiration, warnings, and hope from the Prophets that pertain to our times: Key word: prophet (http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=84010fd41d93b010VgnVCM1000004d 82620aRCRD&hideNav=1&query=Prophet&bucket=AllChurchContent&submitSearch=Search)

God's word, for our times, revealed to us through the Prophets... One of the many things that endears me to my faith.

The Myrmidon

Witness
the myrmidon
not as
grazing sheep
but a love
of silent
service

12-10-2006

Lastly, from "The Articles of Faith" (http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106-1-2-1,00.html):

11. "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

Sincerely,
tailor STATELY

[trueromantic]

It would be nice to meet the new prophet. :yawnb:

[Buh4Bee]

The need for a new prophet

Today I feel we need a new prophet. Prophets arrive in this world at different intervals and the sole objective is to cleanse all of us of our impurity and profligacy. This planet is common to all no matter wherein you are born; no matter what faces you have; no matter which tongues you speak.

The most essential sine qua non is we are losing controls, morals, values today. All of us want just power, money and we do not value other things. Maybe every epoch needs a prophet to correct itself. Today every where people see rampart violence. Fundamentalists and fanatics are looming large on all of us. People in different parts of the world are indoctrinated or programmed to be suicide-bombers.

We think that we are modernized, globalized; we have savvied ourselves technologically. Our life styles have been easier and of course we have more means of communication. We have amassed lots of wealth over this short time.
But we are imperiling ourselves.
Today we need a new leader of prophetic revelation. Such leaders arrive here once in a while through mutation. Commoditization of humans is on the increase.

Do we need a new prophet? I've thought about this idea from time to time, but I ask what would be the message from the prophet? What is the universal need for one?

Would the message be aligned with such questions as these: Has humanity lost direction and can't discipline itself without prophetic guidance? Society can't handle the huge shift in our modern lifestyle? Do we need a prophet to remind humanity that we still do, in fact, need God?

Is all this talk about technology necessary? The point is, that it is part of our lives. We live in a technological age, connected and wireless. What purpose does God serve to the masses when the computer can answer any question or needs we may have?

Ultimately, do people need a prophet and if so, will they respond?

I agree, humanity needs to wake up and experience some sort of revelation and realize that they are not the center of the universe, as some proclaim to be!

[Lady Otter]

God knows, Mohammed should not be the last one! The only things worse are communism and capitalism.

That said, I am quite humble when it comes to the latest judgement, despite what my 14 yr old thinks......

My personal ongoing struggle is between the insight of personal redemption beyond me, (I just want what's best for the species, despite my unfulfilled hope for a supernatural experience), and my suspicion that what you believe is what you get.

We are making it up as we move along.

[Buh4Bee]

Lady Otter, Can I ask:
What message do you think a new prophet should share? Do you think it is still the message of salvation? Do enough people care about the rest of humanity to make a difference?

[GregNewing]

Have you heard of the Baha'i Faith?

[mtpspur]

No. I think all we need has already been said with the conclusion of the Book of Revelation. Ah--but mankind always wants something new and novel.

[Lote-Tree]

Need a another Prophet?

No Way!!!

Why do you have the need to follow others?

[GregNewing]

Just food for thought: Does the sun rise and set... and then rise again? Do the seasons change? Is everything in reality ever changing and progressing?

If so, would this not be applicable to the Revelation of God as well?


What do you guys think?

[The Comedian]

I'd love to see a new prophet come around and put a little magic into our lives.

[Caribbean Dream]

I wonder if we are going to believe in this new prophet or not-
Would you prefer it to be man or woman?

[The Comedian]

Would you prefer it to be man or woman?

Female for sure: I've heard plenty of what the men have to say.

[dizzydoll]

The need for a new prophet

Today I feel we need a new prophet. Prophets arrive in this world at different intervals and the sole objective is to cleanse all of us of our impurity and profligacy.

Firstly I dont believe that prophets arrive to cleanse us, they come to guide us... but having said that this is where I believe humanity fails badly -- if we look outside ourselves to find answers we do ourselves an injustice.

Secondly and as Lotte-Tree and some other posters said, we dont need to follow others... we are all born with a guiding Light everyone one of us, once we learn how to tap into and discover our own life's mystery we will very quickly become whole. There is already much knowledge out there to learn from, if only we put the effort in to explore more intuitively.

And while on the subject of ethics, morals and values, we must never forget we only have control over our own actions even tho we might be repulsed by what we witness these days.

Coming back to the prophet thingie, we must also remember that Life itself presents us with many personal teachers to help us reach our own true destiny, they come in many forms and fashions as "little prophets" along the way... if we miss or ignore one of them Life will usher more in our direction, until we find our life's purpose.

In some cases, especially for those who are unyielding in their flawed belief systems, Life provides many opportunities to wake up [by way of people or situations], either in this life or the next, or next, or next.. it matters not, ultimately its our choice until we become what our soul desires. imo.

[MarkBastable]

we are losing controls, morals, values today. All of us want just power, money and we do not value other things.


In every age - practically in every decade - people say this. Each generation, as it hits middle-age, forms the view that standards are dropping, morals are in decline and the world is going to the dogs.

It simply can't be true, can it? If the world were getting measurably worse in the span of a generation, for every generation, then we'd be so massively worse off than we were two thousand years ago that we'd be incapable of even understanding the way the world worked then.

Overall, on the whole, generally speaking, taking the broad view, things are much as they ever were. Prosperity in this corner of the world is balanced by poverty in that. The expansion of one empire is at the expense of the decline of another. A liberalisation of repression here is shadowed by a clampdown on moral freedom elsewhere. Greed and acquisitiveness are pretty constant, as are generosity and charity. Tyrants and madmen come and go. Religions ebb and flow. Nothing changes really, except technology.

However, if there's an opening for a prophet, I'm very happy to apply, as I really don't think I could do a worse job than some of the guys who've held down the post in the past.

[johnnya]

There's only 2 that will be here in the times ahead, the 2 witness of Christ that will be a great bother to the anti-christ at that time. There are plenty of false prophets though, and not like the past, right now just look around, from media to this internet, the whole world is contributing to bring forth the end of it all.

[MarkBastable]

There's only 2 that will be here in the times ahead, the 2 witness of Christ that will be a great bother to the anti-christ at that time. There are plenty of false prophets though, and not like the past, right now just look around, from media to this internet, the whole world is contributing to bring forth the end of it all.


Well, that all seems pretty definitive and authoritative. Not much point discussing it any further, I guess.

[Basil]

However, if there's an opening for a prophet, I'm very happy to apply, as I really don't think I could do a worse job than some of the guys who've held down the post in the past.


There's only 2 that will be here in the times ahead, the 2 witness of Christ that will be a great bother to the anti-christ at that time.
If you can't be a prophet, Mark, I bet you could be a great bother to the anti-christ. Get your CV up to date.

[Mona ..]

we didn't need a new prophet because all prophets finish their missions ( messages )

and if you read about religions you will find that Islam was the latest one , and as a muslims we know that the prophet mohammed is the last prophet and the best one .

allah said : ( This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. ) Holy quran .




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[caddy_caddy]

A prophet does not purify us . He only leads us or directs us to the right path . He is a sort of extrinsic consciousness . But this is we who accept to walk this path or not . A new prophet won't be able to unify humanity . There is always some who accept and follow and others who do not accept and do not follow . There will be division forever .

On the other hand , I think in every period of history you'll find prophets in the sense that they have a vision of life that tries to give answers and solutions to different issues and problems .
Artists were once the new prophets who have their own vision and choose the path of art and they have their followers who believe in art . Nowadays scientists are the new prophets who have their own vision too ,and try to give answers and solutions to the problems of life choosing the path of science .
Prophet is a man of vision and you can always find such a man .

[ascetic pulp]

No we don't. We are DONE DONE and DONE with prophets and the like. They have done enough harm and created enough sins and induced enough panic and fear. Prophets and their gods have done enough damage. We want no more. Period.

[bej6s]

No we don't. We are DONE DONE and DONE with prophets and the like. They have done enough harm and created enough sins and induced enough panic and fear. Prophets and their gods have done enough damage. We want no more. Period.

Yes, but I wonder if this was the sentiment of the people of Judah as Jeremiah was crying out to his God for the sake of their souls or the people of Israel as Isaiah pleaded for their lives. I do not know about the benefit of prophets in this day and age. However, I do believe the Word of God is living and can serve an important purpose in our daily lives.

On an additional note, I find it interesting that your choice of words is "induced...fear." If someone believed their eternal life, not just their short life on Earth, was at stake, I doubt they would be harping on about fear as a major drawback to prophets. It is all in the perspective and hindsight is absolutely 20/20.

[Alexander III]

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Overall, on the whole, generally speaking, taking the broad view, things are much as they ever were. Prosperity in this corner of the world is balanced by poverty in that. The expansion of one empire is at the expense of the decline of another. A liberalisation of repression here is shadowed by a clampdown on moral freedom elsewhere. Greed and acquisitiveness are pretty constant, as are generosity and charity. Tyrants and madmen come and go. Religions ebb and flow. Nothing changes really, except technology.

What he said :)


Oh and I think everyman(woman) can be a prophet, If you search you shall find, and I think what can be found trough individual search cannot be taught and learnt, it can only be found.

The prophet who tries to teach shall fail
The people who try to learn shall fail

[caddy_caddy]

Yes , the ages of the prophets were ages of darkness . The mass cannot have access to any form of knowledge . A man who goes by himself to the mass and spread his knowledge to them was the only possible way . Now things has completely changed . Knowledge is almost accessible to the majority . This is the age of personal responsibilty .

Every human being is his own savior .

[romeyblack]

We have had no Prophets from God in this modern era, because the next supernatural prophet will be the false prophet of the anti-christ. In fact we see many false prophets coming in the name of the Lord. But are mearly wolves in sheep's clothing. So no we don't need a new proclaimed prophet for that will be the arrival of the anti-christ.