Does ir-religiosity go against spirituality?

[blazeofglory]

I wonder why believers should frown on those who do not hold religious views on phenomena in point of fact. I consider Marx a great spiritual person. He bears similitudes that define saintliness, sanctity and altruism. He in point of fact was not motivated by self satisfying actions. Maybe we differ in degrees in what he believes in. He was a great thinker who fought throughout his life to do something for the poor. Maybe his dreams could not materialize but he had in his nature grains of selflessness. And he had something that Mother Teresa had. Living for others.

I am not advocating for Marxism at all here. The only thing I want to communicate across is just by becoming religious fundamentally we are spiritual. Spirituality unifies us whereas religiosity fragments us. Spirituality is a universal attribute and religiosity is a communal or narrow racial sentiment.

If there were fewer religions and people could understand the meaning of spirituality the world would have been a more peaceful place to live in.

But we confuse religiosity with spirituality making blunders. That was what led to terrorisms and combats.

[Buh4Bee]

I wonder why believers should frown on those who do not hold religious views on phenomena in point of fact. I consider Marx a great spiritual person. He bears similitudes that define saintliness, sanctity and altruism. He in point of fact was not motivated by self satisfying actions. Maybe we differ in degrees in what he believes in. He was a great thinker who fought throughout his life to do something for the poor. Maybe his dreams could not materialize but he had in his nature grains of selflessness. And he had something that Mother Teresa had. Living for others.

I am not advocating for Marxism at all here. The only thing I want to communicate across is just by becoming religious fundamentally we are spiritual. Spirituality unifies us whereas religiosity fragments us. Spirituality is a universal attribute and religiosity is a communal or narrow racial sentiment.

If there were fewer religions and people could understand the meaning of spirituality the world would have been a more peaceful place to live in.

But we confuse religiosity with spirituality making blunders. That was what led to terrorisms and combats.

I am not sure if you are making a reference to fundamentalist religious types such as the Taliban. I would like to present the axiom that fundamentalist develop a deep level of spirituality, but simultaneously segment those who do not follow their brand of religion as "other." In this way, they discriminate and categorize people as either getting into Heaven or not. Kind of like if you know the secret knock on the club door you can get in or not.

Is this too judgmental a take on the topic? I just really dislike religious types that discriminate against others such as gays, because they don't follow their brand of religion.

[Judas130]

...Spirituality unifies us whereas religiosity fragments us. Spirituality is a universal attribute and religiosity is a communal or narrow racial sentiment
If there were fewer religions and people could understand the meaning of spirituality the world would have been a more peaceful place to live in...

I agree partially, however I feel 'spirituality' should be replaced by 'faith'. What is 'spiritual' is 'supernational' and its evidences are skewed by confusion and metaphysical uncertainties. 'Faith' is a certainty - it exists within the human mind and you are right in asserting that it is a universal, yet human, attribute.
However, as children we question - yet we trust our answers. With reason we learn to grow out of Santa or the tooth fairy, yet we still believe in God, because those who lead by example such as our families or those we may show respect to, practise and believe God as a truth. Ask them to reason empirically however, and that goes out the window - few really sit down and work out their faith via physical truths, for should they, they would doubt - and doubt is the key to a cold and divinity ridden world, that you either accept, or retreat back into the veil of comfort and trial granted to you by the faith mechanism. Faith is something that, through upbringing, we all possess and we do not question it until we doubt. it is RELIGION, that keeps those from doubting. Today I looked at a Church, i looked at its spire, and the sheer history of the thing, contemplated how it was put together by the towns folk, and visited perhaps and noted by writers such as EM forster (it was the norman church that can be found in 'forster country' in Hertfodshire england) - yet one can't help looking at that and attaching meaning, the 'human longing' polkinhorn talks of, although these thoughts do not prove the existence of what I search, only that I search. Religion, through communal trance and meditation, allows a refuge from the tribulations of the day, and sinks the believer into a state of comfort and communal awareness, that so many believe in one thing and have this longing, may prove the existence of the deity spoken to them through the man at the tabernacle.
Religion, however, is a ridiculously selfless, and self-denying, system also - it is a seductive falsifier to lead us, ardent-hearted, from our nature as human beings, to rid ourselves of the guilt we have for being our animalistic selves and the regret due to the society in place about us. We build our gods in our image, to suit our guilt. Society is not the main seed from which this guilt grows, but the primitive question 'Who can I thank for all I see? Who can I thank for the heavens and the earth?'.
Faith is there for us to utilise as we see fit, and work with, or indulge - but it is not a realm of truth, and Religion has milked this facet of humanity for far too long.

[amarna]

I wonder why believers should frown on those who do not hold religious views on phenomena in point of fact. I consider Marx a great spiritual person. He bears similitudes that define saintliness, sanctity and altruism. He in point of fact was not motivated by self satisfying actions. Maybe we differ in degrees in what he believes in. He was a great thinker who fought throughout his life to do something for the poor. Maybe his dreams could not materialize but he had in his nature grains of selflessness. And he had something that Mother Teresa had. Living for others.
I am not advocating for Marxism at all here. The only thing I want to communicate across is just by becoming religious fundamentally we are spiritual. Spirituality unifies us whereas religiosity fragments us. Spirituality is a universal attribute and religiosity is a communal or narrow racial sentiment.

If there were fewer religions and people could understand the meaning of spirituality the world would have been a more peaceful place to live in.

Materialist Marx a spiritual person? He would rotate in his grave, if he could hear this. ;)

I don't think that spirituality is a universal attribute. It can't be universal because I know at least two dozens of people who do not even have a tiniest bit of it. Though they're compassionate and altruistic to others. But emotions, even positive emotions like altruism and compassion, are not the same as spirituality (or our definition of "spirituality" differs). You can be the nicest person on earth without believing in anything.

[Lynne Fees]

I wonder why believers should frown on those who do not hold religious views on phenomena in point of fact. I consider Marx a great spiritual person. He bears similitudes that define saintliness, sanctity and altruism. He in point of fact was not motivated by self satisfying actions. Maybe we differ in degrees in what he believes in. He was a great thinker who fought throughout his life to do something for the poor. Maybe his dreams could not materialize but he had in his nature grains of selflessness. And he had something that Mother Teresa had. Living for others.

I am not advocating for Marxism at all here. The only thing I want to communicate across is just by becoming religious fundamentally we are spiritual. Spirituality unifies us whereas religiosity fragments us. Spirituality is a universal attribute and religiosity is a communal or narrow racial sentiment.

If there were fewer religions and people could understand the meaning of spirituality the world would have been a more peaceful place to live in.

But we confuse religiosity with spirituality making blunders. That was what led to terrorisms and combats.

Look at the fruit of Marx's ideas in practice, though. And look at the fruit of Mother Teresa's faith in practice.