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NikolaiI
06-16-2009, 12:19 AM
You can't help being what you are. Once you become a good person, you cannot help being good. You are bound by certain ties of action, behavior. The only way to be sane in this life is to be good. Life is fragile, life is fleeting; therefore, the only sane recourse in life is to seek love with all one's being. The only recourse is to always speak life, to give one's all to life and one's ideals.

One must be totally committed to life. My martial arts teacher always taught that one must be always committed. He said one time he was at a bar, and some guy was wanting to fight him. And he said to the guy, very seriously, "If we are going to fight, we will go outside, and fight." And he let him know he was serious, and would be committed in the fight, and the guy did not want to fight. My martial arts teacher was a teacher of Aikido, of which the main goal is non-conflict, and so this action by ending the conflict before any fight was the best outcome.

If there is any illness the best way is to focus on the illness, focus on the present moment of experiencing the pain, and notice how it is temporary. Even at the end of our life we should be this way, simply focus on the pain and whatever is causing us to end life, and then be committed to a certain ideal, or type that we have set up for ourselves. When we die, we must be committed to something, no matter who we are. How can we die, not being committed to anything?

So a good person, who has lived his life and done many things, at different times, and developed an inner sense of well-being or something even deeper than that, of goodness, and peace, will then at their death be committed to that. At one's death, one will at least, invariably realize, the presence of something much greater than oneself, in fact, the presence of the entire universe. And at death, one will realize that one was always the actual whole of the universe. At least this is the ideal death possible. For think - is it necessary for it to be true? Isn't it necessarily true? Doesn't the divine person of Christ, or the Buddha, make the existence of a reality which could create them, a necessity? Buddha's vision was infinite enligthenment for every living being ever to exist. Doesn't the possibility of infinite enlightenment necessitate the existence of a divine person? Our universe is precisely as good or as bad as we create.

The first and most important question, which is not addressed by 99% of humans, even writers or thinkers, even past or present, is this - "what is the universe"? And secondly or equal importance, "who am I"?

The existence of persons who never ask the question "who am I?" is not evidence that it doesn't exist or it isn't important. Actually, all perspective comes from divine perspective, and nothing exists except the records of the universe. To get closer to the divine primarily means to get more ability of movement. Until you progress closer to the divine, at which point you reach complete freedom. God is infinitely free; God is the Witness, while the material universe is like a book to be read, or a painting. There is nothing but infinity. The ultimate question is "do we exist?" and the only answer is no; we are but information carved into an infinite gem which is God; we are a story told, an infinite number of times, by a tree; and the final conclusion to the story is that everything is one; the infinite universe is every single atom.

In addressing my own inherent nature I should really be addressing the question of the nature of a photon of light. For what is the essential difference between myself and a photon of light? Every energy in the universe is recycled, and actually, at one time, I was a photon light, and at one time, I will again become a photon of light. At what point do I realize that I am one and the same as other photons of lights, and indeed of all photons of light in the universe.

Buh4Bee
06-16-2009, 09:21 AM
You can't help being what you are. Once you become a good person, you cannot help being good. You are bound by certain ties of action, behavior. The only way to be sane in this life is to be good. Life is fragile, life is fleeting; therefore, the only sane recourse in life is to seek love with all one's being. The only recourse is to always speak life, to give one's all to life and one's ideals.

One must be totally committed to life. My martial arts teacher always taught that one must be always committed. He said one time he was at a bar, and some guy was wanting to fight him. And he said to the guy, very seriously, "If we are going to fight, we will go outside, and fight." And he let him know he was serious, and would be committed in the fight, and the guy did not want to fight. My martial arts teacher was a teacher of Aikido, of which the main goal is non-conflict, and so this action by ending the conflict before any fight was the best outcome.

If there is any illness the best way is to focus on the illness, focus on the present moment of experiencing the pain, and notice how it is temporary. Even at the end of our life we should be this way, simply focus on the pain and whatever is causing us to end life, and then be committed to a certain ideal, or type that we have set up for ourselves. When we die, we must be committed to something, no matter who we are. How can we die, not being committed to anything?

So a good person, who has lived his life and done many things, at different times, and developed an inner sense of well-being or something even deeper than that, of goodness, and peace, will then at their death be committed to that. At one's death, one will at least, invariably realize, the presence of something much greater than oneself, in fact, the presence of the entire universe. And at death, one will realize that one was always the actual whole of the universe. At least this is the ideal death possible.



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NikolaiI,
I'm not sure if you read another thread started by Blazeofglory about the fear of death. If you haven't you might want to check it out:

www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44817

The thread covers similar themes that you address in this first post.

I agree with your basic premise that to maintain your sanity you need to be a good person and love others. I believe it is also important to commit to something completely, either commit or not. Christianity demands that of its follows. I'm still struggling to commit.

I like the idea that at the final stages of life, if one has no connection to a divine presence, at least there is the energy of the universe to hang onto.
Are people still able to die with peace, even if they don't even reach this kind of enlightenment? I bet they are.

NikolaiI
06-25-2009, 12:59 AM
NikolaiI,
I'm not sure if you read another thread started by Blazeofglory about the fear of death.

Blaze has been my friend for two years now, but I am very unimpressed with the original post of that thread. I hope I am not saying anything like that. I really don't think I am. I am saying one should always speak life, and Blaze was saying that the fear of death is always "gnawing" at us, and no matter what, one day its "cold hands" are going to get us. This is opposite my view... life and death are two sides of one, they are part of each other and reflect each other. I really disagree with the negativistic approach and conclusions, and pessimistic tone of the original post of Blaze's thread.


I agree with your basic premise that to maintain your sanity you need to be a good person and love others. I believe it is also important to commit to something completely, either commit or not. Christianity demands that of its follows. I'm still struggling to commit.

I like the idea that at the final stages of life, if one has no connection to a divine presence, at least there is the energy of the universe to hang onto.
Are people still able to die with peace, even if they don't even reach this kind of enlightenment? I bet they are.

My speculation is that... they will realize, they will know... it's just a thought. Maybe some go to heaven and some go to hell, I don't know.

I do believe heaven exists, and I was thinking about this recently. One time recently I had a moment when I was struggling to remain conscious. Heaven was around me and was very real to me. I was struggling to hang on, to remain in this life, when to release was to go to a higher place. I believe mystics of all religions, cultures and times have said similar things in regards to truth. It's beyond this language based on conflict and contrast. We all are part of the same Over-Soul. We are infinite, we are not injured by anything. We are one and the same with the universe, and only this full realization is sanity; the rest has been a dream of separateness. Peace and bliss beyond measure is the Truth-Consciousness, or Consciousness-Force, to use Aurobindo's phrases.

We are but a reflection of the universe; being a reflection, therefore, we are the universe. Our body is not this little body, but our body is the whole universe.

Buh4Bee
06-25-2009, 08:14 AM
This is a quote from Blaze's post:

"The dear of God is really disgusting, yet the joy of living is tantalizing. Man is hung between two polar opposites realities in fact in perfect balance."

This is my struggle. I think we can all agree that to some extent there is an afterlife. It seems that is a commonly held believe directly connected to this conversation. For me, it is not the afterlife that I worry about, it is the here and now. It is the hedonism of life that gets me and I don't even do anything that exciting. But it is the option or choice to be a hedonist that I can't give up. To chase the beast is a great thrill! The idea to commit one way or another means that you choice one pole verses the other. Why can't we hang out between both, which is where I am, but I can't seek the enlightenment. The soul is to dirty.