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atena_63
05-01-2009, 05:44 AM
Why do we reproduce and let life goes on ?
Do we know the basic meaning of life ?
Taking religious beliefs into account , can we really reach perfection?
What does perfection mean originally?
Why do we insist on creating suffering again and again?
If I don’t enjoy life, why should I bring another individual into this world? Who guarantee that he/she will have a good life?
Do we know the answers of our questions? Is life in a suspended state pleasant?
What's your idea about this post?
Eagerly waiting to hear your views!

Michael T
05-01-2009, 06:59 AM
Why do we reproduce and let life go on?

It’s what all life forms seek to do; we only question it because we have evolved into sentient Beings.

Do we know the basic meaning of life?

There is none. It’s up to you to give it meaning.

Taking religious beliefs into account, can we really reach perfection?

Most religions would state that only ‘God’ is, or can be perfect.

What does perfection mean originally?

Read Plato’s (or about Plato’s) ‘Theory of Forms’ for a better understanding of most people's ‘idea’ of perfection.

Why do we insist on creating suffering again and again?

Because we’re not perfect. ;)

If I don’t enjoy life, why should I bring another individual into this world?

You don’t have to.

Who guarantee that he/she will have a good life?

There is no guarantee. That is life!

Do we know the answers of our questions?

See above. :D

Is life in a suspended state pleasant?

Not if you’re hanging upside down! :lol:

What's your idea about this post?

Rather naive. :)

Uberzensch
05-01-2009, 09:30 AM
Why do we reproduce and let life goes on ?

For the most part, I think people do it because they think they are supposed to. Most people I observe start families and live their suburban lives because that's what they've been "told" to do their whole lives. I don't think many people consciously decide to live the way they do.

Do we know the basic meaning of life ?

Some of us do, others not. There isn't any meaning, people just believe there is. The difference is that some have found their meaning and others are still looking.

Taking religious beliefs into account , can we really reach perfection?

I'm not sure what this has to do with religion. However, Perfection doesn't exist. It's always that thing just beyond your grasp. Perfection is always one more step away.

What does perfection mean originally?

I dunno, I don't have the OED handy.

Why do we insist on creating suffering again and again?

If you're a buddhist, all life is suffering. That's just the way it goes. Alternatively, that is the absurd position we find ourselves in. We are constructed to need meaning in a universe that has no meaning. (See Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus for more.)

If I don’t enjoy life, why should I bring another individual into this world?

I agree with previous poster... Don't!

Who guarantee that he/she will have a good life?

Only you can guarantee that. It's all in you power. However, I don't mean it's in your power in the sense that if you work hard enough you will achieve your dreams. I mean you have the power to define your life. You define what is good, etc.

Do we know the answers of our questions? Is life in a suspended state pleasant?

If we believe we know, then we know. If you keep asking the questions it's because you are not yet satisfied with anything that you have heard. I'm not sure what you mean with the second question.

What's your idea about this post?

Interesting questions. I understand the previous poster's comment about their being naive, but at the same time, these simple questions are the foundation for a lot of important thought. I once knew someone who claimed to be past these types of questions and problems. My response is that you can't get past these issues. In a way, these problems represent a life-long struggle.

NikolaiI
05-01-2009, 11:00 AM
I agree with the principle. Not to end reproduction altogether, but to decrease it a lot. We are reasoning beings, we should be able to have a better relationship with our mother earth, and more balance in our world. Not just reproduce exponentially like some bacteria. I don't think a lesser population would be a solution to our problems, I mean, one look at history would show it's not. But, the earth has enough resources to sustain our population as it is, and yet we fail to do so. If we decreased the population there would be less strain, presumably.

motherhubbard
05-01-2009, 01:38 PM
I didn't have children expecting perfection, answers, or an end to suffering. They bring me great joy, but there is a down side, too. We take the good and the bad together and I wouldn't have it any other way. I gain as much from sorrow as I do from happiness. Anyway- I work to instill high ideals and a since of action in my children, who, I think, are the kinds of people that make the world a better place.

NikolaiI
05-01-2009, 09:54 PM
I didn't have children expecting perfection, answers, or an end to suffering. They bring me great joy, but there is a down side, too. We take the good and the bad together and I wouldn't have it any other way. I gain as much from sorrow as I do from happiness. Anyway- I work to instill high ideals and a since of action in my children, who, I think, are the kinds of people that make the world a better place.

Of course. Hope they gave you at least some answers. :)

And maybe decreasing the population isn't necessary. But it would certainly make sense to stop increasing the population. I've heard it said that there are more humans alive today than there have been in the history of the race. Whether that's accurate or not, still, consider there was a global population of 1.7 billion in 1909, 100 years ago, and now it is 6.8. Maybe if we could simply maintain and not continue to increase indefinitely, it would be a very good thing. I'm not saying we are over-populated now, nor do I know exactly what Earth's population should be. But it has to stop somewhere, sometime, somehow. If we don't stop by a concscious decision, it will, at some point, create more and more problems.

Madame X
05-01-2009, 11:13 PM
But it has to stop somewhere, sometime, somehow. If we don't stop by a concscious decision, it will, at some point, create more and more problems.

Indeed, I believe it was either Einstein or Mr. Spock who uttered the ever-ominous assertion that the universe will most certainly unfold as it should. All by its big old amorphous self. :alien:

NikolaiI
05-02-2009, 12:03 AM
Indeed, I believe it was either Einstein or Mr. Spock who uttered the ever-ominous assertion that the universe will most certainly unfold as it should. All by its big old amorphous self. :alien:

Yes, I believe that too. But anything is possible, the good and the bad. I strongly believe that at some point, we, as a race, really should discontinue our growth, and maintain a stable population.

IJustMadeThatUp
05-02-2009, 12:10 AM
I strongly believe that at some point, we, as a race, really should discontinue our growth, and maintain a stable population.

I second that.
All people would have to do is just have two kids, one to replace each parent. The only thing is the people that make this decision are the ones that we probably want more of in the world.

Chilly
05-02-2009, 01:19 AM
I strongly believe that at some point, we, as a race, really should discontinue our growth, and maintain a stable population.

Well, i may agree with the fact the human population is getting way out of hand i definitely don't agree with us stopping it. Whether we stop growth by exterminating certain areas or making it illegal to have too many kids, its barbaric and incredibly selfish. We shouldn't worry about maintaining a stable human population because i predict some giant war or mass disease that whips out half of us in the next 150 years. So this problem will deal with itself and we're not to blame.

billyjack
05-06-2009, 10:50 AM
Well, i may agree with the fact the human population is getting way out of hand i definitely don't agree with us stopping it. Whether we stop growth by exterminating certain areas or making it illegal to have too many kids, its barbaric and incredibly selfish. We shouldn't worry about maintaining a stable human population because i predict some giant war or mass disease that whips out half of us in the next 150 years. So this problem will deal with itself and we're not to blame.

true. but we could and should instill mandatory birth control soon after a girl is fertile which can be reversed once a girl wants to shoot out a kid. this would make sense, not be selfish, and keep young dumb newbs from making another waste of space, or what i've heard called, another "THAT guy." we could and should stop making THAT guy. we already have 4 billion of them!