A balanced life

[blazeofglory]

I often times think about a balanced life. A life that gets all that for sustenance not for greed. A life that can fulfil itself. A life that is full and vibrant.

Can we have a life that is balanced? Can we earn right proportions of wealth out of need only?

Now we see disorder, disharmony, aggression, violence all around.

The root cause is imbalance in distribution. Our resources have been monopolized by the few powerful who have arms.

The mighty have upper hand over all that the earth renders.

Can we invent new moral laws? Can we restore peace and order?

[The Atheist]

Can we invent new moral laws?

No chance.

For a start, you'd have to satisfy both muslims and christians and that's just not going to happen.


Can we restore peace and order?

No chance of that, either.

Greed, hate, jealousy, oppression, inequity & inequality....

If you can figure a way to wipe those things out, then there'd be a chance, but I don't see it as possible. Even if 99.999% of the world's human population died out, the planet still wouldn't be big enough for the six million people left.

[grotto]

Well Blazeof glory, I was totally with you until you got to “the root cause” sentence and after.

As soon as you point a finger, you lose balance. There has never been peace and order and I’m afraid, we will never have it as a species by the current definition of what order is.

The moral majority is neither moral, nor the majority. So in order to get new morals for a majority, someone has to decide who and what gets punished.

[Scheherazade]

Can we restore peace and order?"To restore" implies that there was an earlier period when there was peace and order but there has been no such period since humanbeings graced the earth.

[The Comedian]

"To restore" implies that there was an earlier period when there was peace and order but there has been no such period since human beings graced the earth.

And, in a balanced life there might need to be some war and chaos on one side of the scale and some peace and order on the other side.

[Uberzensch]

Well Blazeof glory, I was totally with you until you got to “the root cause” sentence and after.

As soon as you point a finger, you lose balance. There has never been peace and order and I’m afraid, we will never have it as a species by the current definition of what order is.

The moral majority is neither moral, nor the majority. So in order to get new morals for a majority, someone has to decide who and what gets punished.

Well, now, don't ignore the idea becuase it's uncomfortable to your worldview. In addition, we might make some progress if we stopped asking questions like who and what gets punished.


"To restore" implies that there was an earlier period when there was peace and order but there has been no such period since humanbeings graced the earth.

I'm not sure you really know that to be true. Sure, a lot of our history seems to agree. But, you must agree that the history you base this on is quite incomplete.

[grotto]

Well, now, don't ignore the idea becuase it's uncomfortable to your worldview. In addition, we might make some progress if we stopped asking questions like who and what gets punished.


I'm not sure you really know that to be true. Sure, a lot of our history seems to agree. But, you must agree that the history you base this on is quite incomplete.

Very true, but I am neither uncomfortable with the idea nor afraid to ask the hard questions along the way. In order for there to be balance, those who have, will need to give away what they have to those less fortunate. So who will decide who gets and who gives? This topic is about far more than giving everyone the same opportunity. While nice in fantasy land, in our current world order where morals are dictated by those in power, whether they be regimes or religions, all ideals are based in dualism. Even the topic of this thread is based on one against the other, hence balance and how to achieve it. Doing as has been done throughout history won’t work.

This statement is true enough given human recorded history as of now. In this discussion, that is all we have to go on, if you have a different truth or contradictory information, please enlighten us. So what questions should we ask then?