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Mariamosis
03-24-2009, 03:58 PM
I just finished Emile Zola's 'Germinal' and love books such as 'The Jungle' by Sinclair, 'The Grapes of Wrath' and 'In Dubious Battle' by Steinbeck.

These 4 books deal with struggles between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.

Can anyone recommend more books that pertain to the struggles of the working class?

LitNetIsGreat
03-24-2009, 04:31 PM
Well if you read and follow Marxist thought then just about anything ever written will contain class struggle as that is basically how Marx saw life, but anything by Dickens or Austen would fit the bill. However two really obvious ones come to mind as being wholly built around the ideas of class struggle and they would be Gaskell’s North and South and Hardy’s Jude the Obscure – and yes I suggest Hardy’s Jude for just about every thread and every question because it is just that good. :)

Must go I'm wrapped up with a damn essay and presentation nonsense, got a headache and I need a beer!

Mariamosis
03-24-2009, 04:42 PM
Hardy’s Jude the Obscure – and yes I suggest Hardy’s Jude for just about every thread and every question because it is just that good. :)

Hah... yeah I have noticed you have quite an attachment to 'Jude the Obscure', which I agree, and is a favorite of mine as well. (not to mention 'The Mayor of Casterbridge')

I have read 'A Tale of Two Cities' and 'David Copperfield' and loved them, but have not picked up anything else by Dickens.

I will have to look more into Dickens and search Gaskell. However, Austen, is not exactly my favorite author... and unless someone gives me a piece of incredible information, I am immoveable on that one. :)

Thanks for the suggestions!

curlyqlink
03-24-2009, 06:20 PM
Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis is both class conscious and hilarious, which is a rare combination! It's a delightful send-up of bourgeois sensibility.

PabloQ
03-24-2009, 06:56 PM
King Coal by Upton Sinclair is pretty good, but The Octopus by Frank Norris is stellar. It is the story of California wheat farmers vs. the big bad railroad. it has one scene that's a little cheesy and predictable, but I excuse Norreis because the rest of the book is that good.
House of Mirth by Edith Wharton is a spin on the theme, although not so much from the aspect of the working class vs. the bourgeousie, but how those not in high society struggle to obtain through whatever means. Sister Carrie by Theodore Drieser deals with similar themes in a much different way with different results.

Emil Miller
03-24-2009, 08:47 PM
One book that comes to mind is The Road to Wigan Pier by George Orwell. It is not actualy a novel but reportage on the state of working class deprivation during the depression of the 1930s. Orwell lays it on with a trowel and seems to enjoy rolling around in the grime in much the same way as in his Down and Out in Paris and London. Zola went to a mining district in northern France to gather notes on the condition of mine workers and produced one of the best novels ever written but, unlike Orwell, he wasn't in the business of assuaging any guilt at his bourgeois status.

kasie
03-25-2009, 04:48 AM
Robert Tressell: The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists. It's set in Britain in the early years of the twentieth century and shows the struggles of a group of men working in the building industry.

Pensive
03-25-2009, 05:42 AM
Can we count Doctor Zhivago?

Zee.
03-25-2009, 05:52 AM
Hard Times - Dickens

DisPater
03-25-2009, 06:06 AM
Jack London - Martin Eden

According to György Lukács in his' The Historical Novel even Walter Scott's Ivanhoe is about Class Struggles.

amalia1985
03-25-2009, 07:57 AM
The Valley Of The Moon by Jack London might be a good example, dealing with the issue of strike, working people's rights, violence, the agony for a better future, and how all these affect the families and society in general.

WICKES
03-25-2009, 08:29 AM
George Orwell is the best place to start

D H Lawrence: Sons and Lovers

J B Priestly 'An Inspector Calls'

LitNetIsGreat
03-25-2009, 08:33 AM
Inspector Calls, good choice, second that one.

Niamh
03-25-2009, 09:12 AM
Was going to say North and South...but thats already been mentioned! :D

kelby_lake
03-25-2009, 03:01 PM
I just finished Emile Zola's 'Germinal' and love books such as 'The Jungle' by Sinclair, 'The Grapes of Wrath' and 'In Dubious Battle' by Steinbeck.

These 4 books deal with struggles between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie.

Can anyone recommend more books that pertain to the struggles of the working class?

A Kestrel for A Knave- but it's really dreadfully sad.
A film: This Property is Condemned
Basically any Tennessee Williams play- maybe A Streetcar Named Desire.

Pecksie
03-25-2009, 09:46 PM
I don't know about 'class struggles', i.e. struggles BETWEEN classes, but some great authors who deal with the problems and issues of the poor are:

O. Henry (his short stories of New York in the so-called "Gilded Age" are excellent)
Victor Hugo (at his most tear-jerking in "Les Misérables")
John Steinbeck ("Of Mice and Men" is a brilliant portrayal of rural drifters at the time of the Depression)
Anne Brontë ("Agnes Grey" is about the predicament of a friendless governess)

"Sons and Lovers" by D. H. Lawrence and "Jude the Obscure" by Hardy have already been mentioned.

mono
03-25-2009, 10:17 PM
As others have mentioned, almost any novel by Charles Dickens, D.H. Lawrence, Thomas Hardy, or Gustave Flaubert. A few other specifics I would mention:
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy explores the elite vs. the middle-class of Russia in Bolshevik times.
Both Tender is the Night and The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald also rummages through the more wealthy classes and the blue/white-collar classes. In addition, both show a lot of struggles between people of different countries, particularly those of America, England, and France.
For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway has a lot of struggles between hierarchies in anarchistic work during WWI; it shows some difficulties between Americans and Spaniards fighting for the same means, and also of different social classes, but by different means - worst of all, they all think theirs the best plan - that sounds vague, I know, but I do not want to spoil the end.

Mariamosis
03-26-2009, 09:35 AM
Thanks for all of the suggestions!
I am going to have a ton of reading for the next year or so, seeing as how I am going to add all of these to my current reading list!

Thanks again!

Pecksie
03-26-2009, 01:20 PM
War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy explores the elite vs. the middle-class of Russia in Bolshevik times.



Hmmm... no... actually, Tolstoy died years before the Bolshevik revolution... I think you mean Imperial Russia.

kelby_lake
03-26-2009, 01:53 PM
Oh, you mean struggles between poor and middle-class:

Deffo Great Gatsby, with the trendy rich islands and The Valley of Ashes-impoverished America.

Lady Chatterley's Lover?

mono
03-26-2009, 07:33 PM
Hmmm... no... actually, Tolstoy died years before the Bolshevik revolution... I think you mean Imperial Russia.
Oops, indeed - got a bit of my Russian history confused. Thanks!

JohiSD
03-26-2009, 11:23 PM
I love books like that too. Anna Karenina has some of that...more from a philosophical perspective. Kinda a hot topic of the day...the business/political elite and us measly taxpayers :)

My new fave book "The Crowd Dreams of Love" deals with this...there is a controlling government and powerful corporations who push an agenda and illegally detain citizens and immigrants who don't "fit" into the mold. It's sort of Orwellian, like 1984.

"The Crowd Dreams of Love, a new novel by John Leone published by Blithedale Books, foresees ordinary citizens pulled into an underground revolution to fight a corrupt government and greedy corporations that crush civil rights, manipulat the media, imprison the innocent and reward the elite."

Lynne Fees
03-27-2009, 01:47 PM
Les Miserables

I LOVE TOLSTOY
03-27-2009, 04:29 PM
Tressell's masterpiece: The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists. Quintessential piece of class struggle literature. Tressell combines Dickensian eponyms with almost non existent 'pick ups'; ( happy parts of the story :yawnb: )

dafydd manton
03-28-2009, 04:17 PM
Try "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning" by Alan Sillitoe - set in the grime of 1960's Nottingham. The Road to Wigan Pier by Orwell is grossly exaggerated, as another poster suggested, and is actually a classic piece of class prejudice.

JBI
03-28-2009, 04:27 PM
In the Skin of a Lion by Michael Ondaatje.

chrismythoi
03-29-2009, 09:10 AM
The Road to Wigan Pier by Orwell is grossly exaggerated, as another poster suggested, and is actually a classic piece of class prejudice.

in what way is it prejudiced? i thought it was very fair and balanced