Law Enforcement

[papayahed]

What is it about the Police?

[Remarkable]

Ahahahahaha,I guess we should send this topic to the writers of "Boston Legal" so that they can explan it for us in a series:p!

[kilted exile]

well Sting got too concerned with his solo career....

[Virgil]

What is it about the Police?

I think you need to be more specific. I think most do a good and professional job, at least here. I can't speak for elsewhere.


well Sting got too concerned with his solo career....

:lol: Threw me for a loop for a minute.

[Zee.]

Police get a bad rep. Sad. A lot of them are wonderful people.

[kilted exile]

:lol: Threw me for a loop for a minute.

I was trying to work it back to a sting operation comment, but my head is still kinda cobwebby

[1n50mn14]

There are ******* cops, and there are good cops... just like the rest of the world.

Please remember the social group I belong to: street punk. (For the most part.) TOWNIE punks HATE cops with an uneducated passion: they don't care if they're good or not, because they are a cop, they are bad. Townies don't even know why they hate cops, other than they ruin their unbridled, immature fun.

Now, Punkalow punks dislike the cops, because of social barriers that are enforced by cops, and because there are terrible police out there who bring down the entire organization as a whole, and demean the purpose and credo of the 'brotherhood'.

Just remember: *sings to tune of If You're Happy and You Know It*

If you're arrested by the cops remember this:
If you're arrested by the cops remember this:
Name age and adress is all you have to give,
Name age and address is all you have to give...

Etc.

[Zee.]

Bad apples fall from all kinds of trees..

[papayahed]

well Sting got too concerned with his solo career....

:thumbs_up Nice.

[Zee.]

Roxaaaannnnne

[Niamh]

The Guards in Dublin couldnt tell a yoyo from a bicycle.

[papayahed]

Anyways, Serious question. I like the police, that's why I get pulled over all the time. I always thought police were there for my protection if I'm not doing anything wrong I have no reason to be concerned nor would I expect any police office to approach me. Now, some of you remember my rant about getting pulled over a while back. Well I was telling an aquaintenance about the pull over and turns out he is an officer in that town. This person also went on to talk about how his department was tough and how they demand respect. He told me when they go into the bad part of town the officers wave at the citizens and if they don't wave back the officers will make things difficult for the citizens. That doesn't seem right to me and while I know there is bad apples in every bunch is this a case of being a bad apple?

[Mathor]

Roxaaaannnnne

You don't have to put on the red light!

[Chava]

There have been a lot of confrontations with the police here recently. It came out that the cops had been using fictive names for training using only very racist derogative terms. There have been numerous cases of assault.
Recently I was at a peacefull demonstration for humane treatment of refugees with grandparents and children participating in the parade, and we were teargassed! Furthermore, one of my friends was without any provocation from his side (again, we were in a peaceful demonstration) hit in the head with a baton so that he collapsed. He was pulled behind the police chain, and though we tried to ask for him so that we could take him to hospital since he was bleading and passed out, the cops held on to him for over an hour, and eventually we had to call around to the hospitals all evening to find out where he'd been taken.
The police have lost a lot of respect here the last few years, body checking children for drugs, harrasing immigrants for no reason at all, beating young anarchists in announced friendly demonstrations, and deliberatly feeding McDonalds burgers to the arrested vegan anarchists.
How on earth can I be expected to respect them as an institution?

[motherhubbard]

When my husband and I met we both worked at the local police station. He was a police officer for the first five or six years we were married. When our family grew he had to change jobs to support us. But, now he’s the reserve sergeant for the Sheriff’s office and a part time police officer for this little bitty town nearby. It’s not the kind of work that he used to do, but he’s not looking for the same kind of thing. Being an officer can be really thrilling or really boring. In his younger years the fights, pursuits, and arrests were exciting. There is a satisfaction that comes from putting really bad guys in jail. Now he’s really thankful for the nights when all he does is drive around or give directions to lost travelers. You wouldn’t believe the endless paperwork and liability issues that come with the job.

It’s interesting to look at the different kinds of personalities that go into law enforcement. When my husband was a teenager one of the girls that worshiped in the same congregation was brutally attacked and nearly killed. I know two men that became police officers because of the impact that had on them.

I have to say that I love to watch him get dressed. (he's every bit as nice to look at as Sting!) We’ve been together for seventeen years and during that time the routine has not changed. He goes through this process dressing in exactly the same order every time. It’s like a countdown. He doesn’t talk through the process he just focuses. Any time any officer is anywhere there is a risk. Even here in this small town we’ve had officers shot and injured.

[Emil Miller]

I worked for a para-military police force for a number of years and it was one of the best jobs I ever had. I got on well with all of the guys from Chief Constable to PCs. The men looked very smart in uniform but some of the women.....WOW!

[librarius_qui]

Police get a bad rep. Sad. A lot of them are wonderful people.

Police have a bad reputation all around the world.

Except in England, where they dont use guns (?) ...

And FBI heroes.~

[Annamariah]

Police get a bad rep. Sad. A lot of them are wonderful people.


Police have a bad reputation all around the world.

Not here in Finland, on the contrary :)

[Emil Miller]

Not here in Finland, on the contrary :)

Well, apart from an incident that you have mentioned elsewhere on the forum, the Finns have a reputation for being quite civilised, as opposed to their larger neighbours within Scandinavia or further south in Europe. A small population is easier to control than a mulitifarious group of people. Here in the UK, anarchy is an increasing problem as police powers are increasingly restricted by self-rightous government policies. However, it is all grist to the mill and, what with the global financial meltdown, the day of reckoning cannot ( hopefully) be far away.

[Virgil]

Anyways, Serious question. I like the police, that's why I get pulled over all the time. I always thought police were there for my protection if I'm not doing anything wrong I have no reason to be concerned nor would I expect any police office to approach me. Now, some of you remember my rant about getting pulled over a while back. Well I was telling an aquaintenance about the pull over and turns out he is an officer in that town. This person also went on to talk about how his department was tough and how they demand respect. He told me when they go into the bad part of town the officers wave at the citizens and if they don't wave back the officers will make things difficult for the citizens. That doesn't seem right to me and while I know there is bad apples in every bunch is this a case of being a bad apple?

Could be a bunch of bad apples. Could be just inflated talk to impress. Could be he's a petty person. Coud be a combination of all. He could be overly sensitive to a lack of respect. Is this a tough area Papaya? Sometimes the cops have to turn the heat up and how they decide is anyone's guess. There are some towns where the cops feel overwhelmingly out numbered (a lot of California cities do not have a large police force and so try to compensate with a hard a$$ attitude) and so they feel they have to keep a tight grip.

[Madhuri]

Police is pathetic here; no one wants to approach them for any help. They are least helpful, very corrupt, and make things even more difficult for you.

[Pensive]

Police is pathetic here; no one wants to approach them for any help. They are least helpful, very corrupt, and make things even more difficult for you.

Same here.

[Lokasenna]

Police have a bad reputation all around the world.

Except in England, where they dont use guns (?) ...

Oh, trust me. They have a pretty awful reputation over here.

I live in North Wales, which gives me the unparalleled delight of being under the control of Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom, a man who has increased the number of speed cameras in the area by over 1000%, but has seen serious crimes rise considerably without doing anything. The man is addicted to punishing motorists, and nothing else. He thinks that all drugs should be legalised because, and I quote, "then there won't be any drug related crime anymore."

The man is an utter moron. His base-of-operations, filled with a thousand police officers, is a two minute walk from my parents' business. And what is their average response time? An hour! You can be left physically pinning a violent shoplifter to the floor for over an hour, while the police do absolutely nothing! All my years of experiencing this has left me very cynical and critical of the modern police force.

Anyway, I'll stop ranting now!

[Emil Miller]

Oh, trust me. They have a pretty awful reputation over here.

I live in North Wales, which gives me the unparalleled delight of being under the control of Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom, a man who has increased the number of speed cameras in the area by over 1000%, but has seen serious crimes rise considerably without doing anything. The man is addicted to punishing motorists, and nothing else. He thinks that all drugs should be legalised because, and I quote, "then there won't be any drug related crime anymore."

The man is an utter moron. His base-of-operations, filled with a thousand police officers, is a two minute walk from my parents' business. And what is their average response time? An hour! You can be left physically pinning a violent shoplifter to the floor for over an hour, while the police do absolutely nothing! All my years of experiencing this has left me very cynical and critical of the modern police force.

Anyway, I'll stop ranting now!

Having watched over many years the forces of law and order being emasculated by "liberal" politicians it is no wonder that UK police forces are nothing near as efficient as they should be. The nefarious idea of community policing promoted by Ted Willis a former Communist Party activist and subsequent member of the Labour Party ( later to be enobled as Baron Willis ) had the, intentional, effect of turning police officers into glorified boy scouts. In this scenario, police were increasingly unable to do their job and demoralisation set in leading to a lower calibre of police officer. The result has been that literally millions of crimes have taken place with many remaining unsolved. There has also been an attitude of " If we can't beat them, we might as well join them," with the result that some police officers have been engaged in criminal activity themselves.

[Lady Marian]

I really enjoy the TV show 24. If more policemen were allowed to work like Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland), we'd all be a lot safer.


My sincere sympathies to you in the UK.