How has God helped you in your life.... [Archive]

QuietTime

03-16-2009, 10:36 AM

I was saved last July and my life is not perfect! God gives you lessons and you are put through trials. But God can also bless you and he has done that for me! Right now i am happy and have never been better. I am starting to study the bible and you learn so much!!:)

Wintermute

03-16-2009, 04:51 PM

Which God?

Cheers,
Doug

krymsonkyng

03-16-2009, 07:02 PM

Pick a god...
Imbulu the tree god gave me quiet shade, music, and breezes that I may think clearly no matter how stressful times may get. Tyr's lone arm drives me forward only in my every conquest. I pursue the knowledge of Cydonia on a daily basis. The Red Knight dictates to me matters of strategy. The eyeless (or three eyed depending on the story) keeps me in line. I worship Lalune and Selune, but never fail to pay reverence to the other gods and goddesses of my pantheon... Especially Ulthar.

kevinthediltz

03-16-2009, 07:15 PM

I predict that this modest question will eventually become another endless god argument that we just cant seem to stop.
When will it end?

krymsonkyng

03-16-2009, 09:00 PM

I predict that this modest question will eventually become another endless god argument that we just cant seem to stop.
When will it end?

After a six foot drop and the ultimate scientific observation. The real question seems to be who wants to find out first?

Truth is, the statement for this thread isn't even a question. It's declarative. Just another beacon of faith for forum-moths to try and smother out, or immolate themselves with.

I've seen few debates here. Mostly arguments. Like monologues with feigning listeners waiting for their turn to scream their doctrine.

Mathor

03-16-2009, 11:07 PM

NikolaiI

03-16-2009, 11:11 PM

My question is why do people think it is irrational to believe and worship the source of all truth. :) God is one and infinite; there is nothing without or beyond God.

krymsonkyng

03-16-2009, 11:48 PM

I feel like this is kind of like telling a child that they shouldn't believe in Santa Clause. if someone is happy, what is so wrong with them being happy? There's a difference between someone preaching their religion and someone saying "i'm so happy since i've found God". When someone says they are happy why would you try to end their happiness?

Because an absolute happiness (a jealous god) conflicts with any other absolute happiness.

This is the source of so much conflict in the world... Give me a global atrocity without some sort of religious tone or motivation and I'll be satisfied to let ignorance remain as bliss.

Mere toleration is unacceptable. Respect requires thought, and observance and the decency to tell someone (as politely as possible) when you think they may be mistaken in their assumption. It is a competency founded on caring for your fellow man and his experiences. Not a blind "acceptance". Mere acceptance is temporary.

That said, which one and infinite god?

Delta40

03-17-2009, 12:13 AM

thank God for spheres of existence where happiness can be contained within and not shared with those who would challenge and delegitimize it so it accords with their own 'truth' as proven by their equally meaningful or meaningless internal self

(wipes her brow in sheer relief)

Mathor

03-17-2009, 12:27 AM

Because an absolute happiness (a jealous god) conflicts with any other absolute happiness.

This is the source of so much conflict in the world... Give me a global atrocity without some sort of religious tone or motivation and I'll be satisfied to let ignorance remain as bliss.

Mere toleration is unacceptable. Respect requires thought, and observance and the decency to tell someone (as politely as possible) when you think they may be mistaken in their assumption. It is a competency founded on caring for your fellow man and his experiences. Not a blind "acceptance". Mere acceptance is temporary.

That said, which one and infinite god?

and why does that conflict? Why cannot two people just be happy in knowing that either of them could be very wrong? Why must humans know everything. What is so wrong about the idea that god could exist or not exist.

krymsonkyng

03-17-2009, 01:52 AM

deleted. Had nothing to do with the thread.

NikolaiI

03-17-2009, 01:56 AM

Because the penalties are absolute in nature. There are black and white consequences for being wrong, and they are used to frighten.

Not in this thread.

krymsonkyng

03-17-2009, 02:16 AM

You speak later in your post of staying in the here and now, on this earth, bettering life now.

I would ask you to remain in the here an now and recognize that none of what you said has anything to do whatsoever with the poster of this thread, etc. Do you see what I mean?

You're right. I should have started a whole different thread.

By now, I mean this life. The mortal coil. What happens beyond the grave is unimportant until we get there. God's daily comforts are nice, but they come with baggage. My tirade had no place here. God is working for you (Quiettime) in this life. Good.

Just please don't ever stop asking questions. Once you stop growing, you (and by extension humans) start dying. Please don't stop at god in your pursuits for happiness. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, I posted in an unnecessary and irresponsible fury. Please forgive me. I have no idea what came over me...

Please may I start over?
God, or my idea of what god must be helps me by letting me ask about things that bother me. I ask to space and ponder what solutions could work. Because I leave it up to someone else, it isn't difficult to make a decision. For me prayer is meditation, and it helps me daily. Sometimes though, I forget to think about my actions before I do them. "Vision without action is a dream. Action without Vision is a nightmare." The posts leading up to this, had passion without focus. Please excuse me once more...

blazeofglory

03-17-2009, 10:08 AM

This is really interesting. God has helped us in zillions of ways. In fact God is in everything. All our actions reflect God' s work.

We are only agents or carriers of God's wishes and we are totally the effects of what God does.

crystalmoonshin

03-27-2009, 10:53 AM

Every second, every minute, every day of my life, God is helping me, though there are certain times when I am not aware of His loving hands. Most of the time, He helps me discover myself by putting me in depressing situations for a period of time, perhaps to make me humble since I am too proud, and then when I finally feel too hopeless and too numb to make a move, He shows me miracles. And for this, i can definitely shout to the world that I LOVE GOD more than anything in the world. :)

billyjack

03-27-2009, 12:23 PM

define miracles

Lynne Fees

03-27-2009, 01:30 PM

Talking about religion doesn't have to start fights. The problem with different religions is that truth does exist. For example, Jesus either was the Messiah and God's Son or he was some kind of nut who was crucified because he THOUGHT he was the Messiah. Now, if two people have different ideas of who Jesus was, they can differ and still respect one another.
The thing that bothers me is this, "Anything is truth if it feels right to the person."
How has God helped me? He gives me purpose for life. My brother-in-law told me yesterday, "My reason for living is my children." What? How sad is that? His children are all grown up and really don't need him anymore!
My reason for living is to glorify God. The real one.
He helps me by making the Bible apply in my heart to my life and problems.

NikolaiI

03-28-2009, 06:05 PM

From God comes truth. God is the source of all spiritual and material worlds. And that source is within the heart of every living being. We come from that source, it is in our ignorance that we seek it outside ourselves. Enlightenment is knowing that oneself is and always is, within God.

Mathor

03-28-2009, 11:18 PM

My vision of what God is changes as I get older, but all i know is the feeling i get when I listen to music. That feeling of complete and utter joy. That's what God is to me. Cause music is not of this world and is too amazing to really define. What is it that causes your heart to flutter when a chord is played in just the right way? I don't know what it is, but it's supernatural.

billyjack

03-30-2009, 11:47 AM

just because music is life affirming doesnt make it supernatural or not of this world. how did you come to that supernatural conclusion of yours?

Scheherazade

03-30-2009, 12:44 PM

I think the question should be rephrased: How did accepting God's presence help you in your life?

Mathor

03-30-2009, 09:28 PM

just because music is life affirming doesnt make it supernatural or not of this world. how did you come to that supernatural conclusion of yours?

i simply have a different opinion than you. I never said god existed, but I'm talking about in my own life, the only thing that could be close to a supernatural experience are the outerworldly experiences I have when I listen to music. So if God exists, then that'd be where you find him. Cause i believe the initial question posed in this thread was asking for responses involving subjective experiences? Give your experience and your opinion, but do not judge mine, please.

EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.

crystalmoonshin

03-31-2009, 11:18 AM

define miracles

Miracles, for me, are those which I think are impossible but becomes possible.

billyjack

03-31-2009, 12:47 PM

i simply have a different opinion than you. I never said god existed, but I'm talking about in my own life, the only thing that could be close to a supernatural experience are the outerworldly experiences I have when I listen to music. So if God exists, then that'd be where you find him. Cause i believe the initial question posed in this thread was asking for responses involving subjective experiences? Give your experience and your opinion, but do not judge mine, please.

EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.

ya know JRR tolkein's "The Silmarinion" (spelling probably wrong) speaks of music as the driving force that created middle earth.

sodr2

03-31-2009, 03:03 PM

Believe me, God has helped me in times where I thought there was no solution.

With man it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

Mathor

04-01-2009, 01:29 PM

ya know JRR tolkein's "The Silmarinion" (spelling probably wrong) speaks of music as the driving force that created middle earth.

I believe you are referring to the "The Music of The Ainur" from The Silmarillion, in which Illuvatar or Tolkien's "God", spoke to the Ainur through music and they created the world that way. And I don't know if you were trying to compare the idiocy of this concept to the idiocy of any religion? Maybe.

However, I don't really see how this has any place in this thread unless you actually believe that. Because the thread was asking the readers to provide subjective experiences in their own lives. This particular thread was not meant to be a source of debate, and if you would like to debate on these issues you should start a thread about it and I and others would be happy to debate it with you there. Try to stay on topic.

billyjack

04-02-2009, 11:41 AM

i was simply saying that music has an enigmatic power, even a creative power--but music as a supernatural thing only exist in works of fiction

every thread is open for debate

Lynne Fees

04-21-2009, 05:16 PM

EDIT: And if you do not believe in any god of any sort or think it's all hogwash then write "I do not believe in god, and therefore god has not helped me in any way whatsoever". That's a good way to stay on topic. I don't think this thread was created with the intent on becoming debate.

Debate isn't bad. I thought we were all supposed to be exchanging ideas here to get our brains going. Like the thread rules say, just no disparaging others' beliefs.

JBI

04-21-2009, 05:25 PM

Miracles, for me, are those which I think are impossible but becomes possible.

Sorry to nitpick, but if it is impossible, yet becomes possible because of God, isn't god making the impossible a possibility, therefore the impossible is actually possible, as it happened, and therefore in order to happen, it needed the possibility of being possible, also known as it being possible.

In other words, the impossible, if it actually happens, isn't really impossible is it, it is merely uncommon, or never done before.

crystalmoonshin

04-23-2009, 07:42 AM

Lynne Fees

04-28-2009, 12:42 PM

What you've said had crossed my mind, too. Sorry, but I didn't know how to put my thoughts into words. ^.^'

What I've been trying to say is that with God, anything is possible. By miracles, I mean to say God's intervention in human affairs to overcome the limits of what humans can do. Or something like that.

The interesting thing is that we can never know why God intervenes in one situation and not the other. It isn't because one person has "more" faith, or because another person is "better." It's because God sees the beginning and the end and looks at the really, really big digital picture which we can't get with our old analog brains.

La Amistad

05-12-2009, 11:56 AM

Miracles, for me, are those which I think are impossible but becomes possible.

I think it is possible for me to be able to fly of my own without anything on my shoulders so that’s not a miracle?

La Amistad

05-12-2009, 11:59 AM

Believe me, God has helped me in times where I thought there was no solution.

With man it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

I disagree, the more i believe the more I "wish" (things to be right) then the more it doesn't "happen" (or atleast go totally wrong) the more i "disbelieve" (or go like mehh, there must be a flaw).

planet earth

05-14-2009, 06:21 PM

I disagree, the more i believe the more I "wish" (things to be right) then the more it doesn't "happen" (or atleast go totally wrong) the more i "disbelieve" (or go like mehh, there must be a flaw).

I think this is because you are waiting for what He has, not who He is. I mean you seek what He gives, not Himself

librarius_qui

05-24-2009, 12:21 AM

Which God?

Cheers,
Doug

(come on!: of course he's talking about he god of Abraham, Izaaq and Jacob! :crash: )

NovemberGuest

06-13-2009, 12:27 PM

God has helped me in unimaginbale, undeniable, and truly undeserved ways. About a year ago he got me out of a really bad situation (that I got my own butt into...by the way!) that could have resulted in me hurting the people i love and myself. He showed me his mercy.

And another way...heres my miracle: For years and years I wanted a baby sister or brother. My laughed and said that it was out of the question, my sister and I were enogut. For 15 years I kept praying, then one night I sort of gave God and "ulimatum" i said that if I didn't get some sort of sign very soon, I would just leave it and assume that I wasn't meant to have a new bro or sis. THEN...that night, I overheard my parents talking...about having a BABY! they said they don't know what made them think of is and actually (w/out going into details...) my dad had been thinking of having an operation to "disable" himself from having kids. But I guess God had other plans...this september I'll have a new baby sister :) My answered prayer.

Buh4Bee

06-15-2009, 10:25 PM

God helps me all the time, just not in the hedonistic ways I wish...

Judas130

06-19-2009, 02:38 PM

The interesting thing is that we can never know why God intervenes in one situation and not the other. It isn't because one person has "more" faith, or because another person is "better." It's because God sees the beginning and the end and looks at the really, really big digital picture which we can't get with our old analog brains.

I've heard middle class British claim to have direct help from God. So why is it that when I see images of African children begging to God, with vultures not far off greedily eying their bony prey, that I question 'who answers their prayers?'. God seems to help the better off, bourgeois populace an awful lot more than those who truly need it.

Buh4Bee

06-19-2009, 04:24 PM

alexar

06-19-2009, 04:55 PM

God helps me all the time, just not in the hedonistic ways I wish...

:lol:

God doesn't help me in those ways either. Now and then I get some dumb luck, not recently though.

Judas130

06-20-2009, 10:15 AM

Judas,
I take very seriously what you asked, despite my obnoxious comment prior to yours. I think what you observe about the inequity in God's supposed ability to answer the prayers of those most in need, is one of the most asked questions about the use of His divine power. If He can solve all these problems then why doesn't He, especially when one sees such a deep level of suffering? I think a theologian would give some kind of explanation about free will or that the suffering is not necessarily caused by God. It is in the earthly realm and up to man to solve these problems of hunger. Man must learn to love each other, enough to take care of each other in order solve such problems as hunger and poverty. Although I accept such answers, sometimes these explanations are not good enough for others.

I agree. Poverty is very much a thing that mankind can and must end. Poverty sprouts from the seeds of civil war, or disastrous politics or economics, bully corporations, and the like. I respect this answer to the problem 'why doesn't God answer their prayers' - perhaps, to argue from a believers side, he doesn't answer their calls because WE are the ones who can. Thank you. :thumbs_up

amarna

06-20-2009, 05:23 PM

How has God helped you in your life....

Nice rhetoric gimmick. But I do not fall for leading questions. :)

TurquoiseSunset

06-21-2009, 02:23 PM

I agree. Poverty is very much a thing that mankind can and must end. Poverty sprouts from the seeds of civil war, or disastrous politics or economics, bully corporations, and the like. I respect this answer to the problem 'why doesn't God answer their prayers' - perhaps, to argue from a believers side, he doesn't answer their calls because WE are the ones who can. Thank you. :thumbs_up

Absolutely. If that orphan in Africa really only needs 10 or 5 dollars, we could almost immediately solve the world's hunger issues if the people who had 5 dollars to give actually gave it... God can take the horse to water, but he can't make it drink.

Buh4Bee

06-24-2009, 08:22 PM

:lol:

God doesn't help me in those ways either. Now and then I get some dumb luck, not recently though.

haha, well, summer's coming, maybe something will blown in your way like a day trip to the coast.

Buh4Bee

06-24-2009, 08:42 PM

I was rereading through this thread and I think that it is important to remember that God helps us when we ask for help. Sometimes the ego gets in the way and tells us that we can do it ourselves, when in actuality, we should be asking for guidance. At times such as these, we can get ourselves into grave trouble. And there is no one to blame except ourselves, because we brought "it" about.