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quasimodo1
03-07-2009, 04:26 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/books/review/Roiphe-t.html?_r=1&ref=books --- A JURY OF HER PEERS

American Women Writers From Anne Bradstreet to Annie Proulx

By Elaine Showalter

586 pp. Alfred A. Knopf. $30 --- ---'It’s worth noting that many of the most talented writers she discusses —

Edith Wharton, Willa Cather, Mary McCarthy, Elizabeth Bishop, Joan Didion — objected to being categorized as women

writers and preferred to think of themselves simply as writers. As Elizabeth Bishop put it, “art is art and to

separate writings, paintings, musical compositions, etc. into two sexes is to emphasize values that are not art.”

Showalter handles these rebels by corralling them into special subchapters with titles like “Dissenters.” One of the

dissenters, Cynthia Ozick, argued against expecting “artists who are women . . . to deliver ‘women’s art,’ as if

10,000 other possibilities, preoccupations, obsessions, were inauthentic, for women, or invalid, or worse yet,

lyingly evasive.”' {excerpt from the review By KATIE ROIPHE, published: March 5, 2009}

Babyguile
03-07-2009, 04:30 PM
It is ludicrous to use all-engrosing terms such as women's art and women's writing as if there is a common theme which runs through them all. Why try and niche the work of women, over 50% of the population of most MEDC countries, into a single group?

Men's art? Men's writing? No.

Women's writing is incredibly diverse and challenging.

JBI
03-07-2009, 04:32 PM
I find her a boring essayist personally, and way to Bloom-influenced, ironically. We'll see how this one is though.

blithe_spirit
03-07-2009, 05:00 PM
I have never seen the point of categorizing authors in this way. Really good writers are able to transcend categories such as gender, race, age, time, etc. That, surely, is one of the reasons why they are really good writers.

JBI
03-07-2009, 05:06 PM
I have never seen the point of categorizing authors in this way. Really good writers are able to transcend categories such as gender, race, age, time, etc. That, surely, is one of the reasons why they are really good writers.

I'm going to play the devils advocate a little, and take a Showalterian / structuralist feminist perspective, to spark a little debate.

It could be argued that one shouldn't need to "transcend" gender, race, age, time, and any other such thing. Theorists like the great Helene Cixous would argue, that women writers should embrace their femininity, and express that, and not try to "transcend" it, and ultimately reinforce patriarchal assumptions about art.

In truth, the woman's experience is just as important as the "male" experience, and the female perspective is just as relevant as the male perspective (whatever those means, I wouldn't get into post-structuralist gender studies right now, because that is a whole other topic). By highlighting the tradition, Showalter doesn't try to show women who have transcended their "gender" of all things, she is trying to show what is female expression, and highlight the tradition, and similarities between female writers.

My issue with her, is that she is just a pretty bad writer. Gynocriticism only goes so far, in my opinion, and her unearthing of texts, which ultimately don't even form a female tradition, doesn't go very far. I'll have to read this one to find out, but really I'm at the moment not so interested in the "canon" of female writing (western, English female writing mind you), and more interested in contemporary female expression. In that sense, I have to agree with the load of criticism that has been thrown at Showalter, highlighting that ultimately she just reinforces patriarchal values, by reinforcing a patriarchal canon, and ignoring the contemporary expression of Women.

blithe_spirit
03-07-2009, 05:57 PM
In truth, the woman's experience is just as important as the "male" experience, and the female perspective is just as relevant as the male perspective ...

I agree entirely but while feminist and post-structuralist criticism provide us with another perspective on literature regardless of whether it conveys the female experience or the male experience, I'm not sure that it necessarily creates a need to distinguish separate categories of writing.

Dark Muse
03-08-2009, 03:33 AM
I cannot remember who it was now, but I remember there was one poet who stated that she did not know what it meant to be a woman poet, becasue she was just a poet, and she did not want to be praised for her work based upon her gender, but becasue of the merit of the work itself.

kelby_lake
03-08-2009, 02:55 PM
Urgh, stupid terms and genres, like gay literature for pretty much any book that has that theme. Are straight people not allowed to read it or something?

doowoop
07-17-2011, 11:52 AM
Oh! Does it matter gender of the author if the book is worthy of attention?

Kafka's Crow
07-17-2011, 12:23 PM
People who read and read a lot can tell the difference between male and female writing from miles. They don't have to be the same. One doesn't have to be better or worse. There is no male Jane Austin. I am reading Gone with the Wind these days. Very feminine, very great. Mitchell doesn't have to be Tolstoy or Pasternak. She has written a great war novel which is different and this different should be celeberated not effaced.

IAmNoBird
07-17-2011, 12:52 PM
People who read and read a lot can tell the difference between male and female writing from miles.

Agreed. From my experience (and this will necessarily be limited - there isn't enough time in my entire life to sample all I'd like) female writers tend to be more introspective in terms of their characters, and sometimes this means themselves, too. Men writers, however, tend to look outward and be more story-orientated. The differences between men and women writers are usually extremely subtle and this is just one small difference - which, of course, doesn't always apply - out of many.

In saying this, I don't understand why a good female writer would write with "being a woman" in mind unless the subject matter was specifically about that. Surely we cannot assume that having an opinion or an idea is necessarily influenced by what sex you are. In fact, a lot of the time writers need to step outside of themselves to create a character in order to gain an idea of their perspective.

Personally, I don't think that novels should be lumped into "women's literature" just because they happen to be written by women. The subject matter is what counts.