Hidden Kiss

[Logan]

Can someone explain to me the meaning of a "hidden kiss"? I don't understand what Berry meant by this.

Thanks,

Logan

[Jay]

Hi there,
maybe more info about what you're actually talking about would help. Berry, I'm guessing, is the author of a book and there's something with a 'hidden kiss' going on in it...

[Koa]

and I thought this was going to be hot :D

[Jay]

Get your mind out of the gutter, Koa! :lol:

[Logan]

Sorry...

I'm talking about the "hidden kiss" that Wendy and Mrs. Darling have in the story of Peter Pan.

[Jay]

oh, haven't read Peter Pan, sorry

[lhaeber]

Can you supply the sentences in the story which contain the hidden kiss?

[Logan]

Of course.


Her romantic mind was like the tiny boxes, one within the other, that come from the puzzling East, however many you discover there is always one more; and her sweet mocking mouth had one kiss on it that Wendy could never get, though there it was, perfectly conspicuous in the right-hand corner.


The way Mr. Darling won her was this: the many gentlemen who had been boys when she was a girl discovered simultaneously that they loved her, and they all ran to her house to propose to her except Mr. Darling, who took a cab and nipped in first, and so he got her. He got all of her, except the innermost box and the kiss. He never knew about the box, and in time he gave up trying for the kiss. Wendy thought Napoleon could have got it, but I can picture him trying, and then going off in a passion, slamming the door.


And gayest of all was Mrs. Darling, who would pirouette so wildly that all you could see of her was the kiss, and then if you had dashed at her you might have got it. There never was a simpler happier family until the coming of Peter Pan.


She started up with a cry, and saw the boy, and somehow she knew at once that he was Peter Pan. If you or I or Wendy had been there we should have seen that he was very like Mrs. Darling's kiss. He was a lovely boy, clad in skeleton leaves and the juices that ooze out of trees but the most entrancing thing about him was that he had all his first teeth. When he saw she was a grown-up, he gnashed the little pearls at her.


Of course Peter promised; and then he flew away. He took Mrs. Darling's kiss with him. The kiss that had been for no one else, Peter took quite easily. Funny. But she seemed satisfied.

[baddad]

Hidden kiss= your innermost self, and the giving/sharing/revealing of such to the only truly deserving One?

[lhaeber]

I read this last night;"Mrs. Darling and Wendy Darling each have a hidden kiss - this kiss is hidden under the right hand corner of their mouths and only their true love can find it. Because Mr. Darling cant find Mrs. Darlings kiss, perhaps Barrie is trying to say that although she loves Mr. Darling dearly, he isnt her true love."
I also found alot of items in Japanese erotica which referred to hidden kiss, but wasn't in the mood to analyse such a subject.

[lhaeber]

I also wonder if Mrs. Darling's hidden kiss represents her own hidden desire to be youthful, free, etc. "If you or I or Wendy had been there we should have seen that he was very like Mrs. Darling's kiss."

[Logan]

I read this last night;"Mrs. Darling and Wendy Darling each have a hidden kiss - this kiss is hidden under the right hand corner of their mouths and only their true love can find it. Because Mr. Darling cant find Mrs. Darlings kiss, perhaps Barrie is trying to say that although she loves Mr. Darling dearly, he isnt her true love."

Yes, but, that would mean everyone has a hidden kiss, wouldn't it? And Barrie makes it sounds as if it is a rare thing to have.

Also, Wendy could not find her mother's hidden kiss either, so..


I also found alot of items in Japanese erotica which referred to hidden kiss, but wasn't in the mood to analyse such a subject.

o.o *Goes to look* :brow: :lol:

[lhaeber]

Of course he makes it sound rare, so is the appeal for holding your youth, valueing (sp?) it, measuring it by means of your actions, in his story, they are death defying (flying, crocodiles, pirates), Peter fights these symbolic entities which could force him to grow up, but he doesn't...The innocence of this kiss being hidden, they don't even know they're hiding a kiss, they can't acknowledge their youth, yes, maybe even inner child is wanting to jump out and they'd be better off for it, to "unclench". And how many of us can't find one or both of our parents' hidden kisses? Maybe this stands to signify their lack of emotional giving, they hide it because (even back then) it wasn't proper? What did kiss mean back then, anyway? Now, it almost always eludes to sex, but maybe back then it was a deeper show of emotion?

[subterranean]

Love?

..............


Hidden kiss= your innermost self, and the giving/sharing/revealing of such to the only truly deserving One?

[jeremysumpter]

OK this is what they mean by a hidden kiss. It's actually a mole, like a beauty spot, that is on the right hand corner of their mouths. And they call that a "hidden kiss"..It's like a sign that someone is yet to kiss you..Just watch the movie.(with jeremy sumpter) itll make more sense.

[cattydom]

...I always thought it was a dimple. :)

I knoooow this is like forty years too late lol but i was searching to see what it actually was and stumbled upon this. ;)

[Meghan Rachelle]

This is a fairly old topic, but here's what the IMDB FAQ says:

In the book, J.M.Barrie refers to Peter being in the faces of many women who are not yet mothers and some who are. One interpretation of his meaning is that for girls becoming women, there is one kiss (which is physically portrayed by the dimples at the side of the mouth) that is for Peter Pan, partly due to the inner child in whose imagination Never Land and Peter Pan are wonderful and idealistic, and partly due to the growing up woman who sees Peter as a friend and a love, even if they are older (such as Mrs. Darling), he is like a childhood crush that you meet when you are grown, and the kiss is still reserved for him.

[K-Rae]

JM Barrie seems like the type that would love to keep people wondering.
So the Hidden Kiss could be any one of those things listed, or it could be something totally different.
It's all a part of his plan for us all to use our imagination to come up with something fantastic. (:
That's what I think...
The other ones are good answers too. :D I like them a lot. :)

[logan19913]

I was watching one the recent live action film of Peter Pan and I was curious as to what was meant by the Hidden Kiss, I went on google and found this thread.. and through reading your posts it helped me make a connection between the hidden kiss and something that was said in an excerpt When Wendy Grew up.
It seems as though, based on what Barrie wrote in that (link can be found below) explains that Wendy's adventures with Peter Pan will occur to her daughter, and her daughter's daughter to whatever end... so I think its pretty safe to assume that it also happened to Mrs Darling she went off with to Neverland, and the kiss that was Mrs Darling's belonged to Peter, as did Wendy's Kiss and so it goes on...

[logan19913]

**** FORGOT TO POST THE LINK! ****
here is the link i forgot to post in the previous reply!


http://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4203

[CeltycPrincess]

Hi. I love the book Peter Pan and so I thought I would express my thoughts on what the hidden kiss is. The hidden kiss is a very special kiss hidden in the corner of a woman's mouth. It cannot be given to anyone, but rather it is only given to someone very special - i suppose its like a soul mate. I believe that the hidden kiss is the purest and most perfect expression of love between soulmates. When Wendy is told she has the hidden kiss, she only gives it to Peter Pan because he is in essence her soulmate.

[Alyc66]

I always thought that it was a small patch of pink that exceeds the lip. I have one and was always told it was a hidden kiss. Like, there is the shape of my lip and then on one side in the corner there's a little patch of pink that goes below my actual lip. It's hard to see but it's there.