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Dara1409
02-03-2009, 09:23 PM
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/stephen-king-on-twilight-author-stephenie-meyer-can-t-write-worth-a-darn/18406?nc




haha oh buddy

Joreads
02-03-2009, 10:46 PM
He may as well join the club.

Dark Muse
02-03-2009, 11:02 PM
I say good for him.

It is fine if people want to enjoy her books, but don't pretend like she is acutally a talented writer. Own up to the truth. You may like to read her work, but her prose is crap.

Joreads
02-03-2009, 11:08 PM
I say good for him.

It is fine if people want to enjoy her books, but don't pretend like she is acutally a talented writer. Own up to the truth. You may like to read her work, but her prose is crap.

I agree with you they are not nor are they ever going to be great classic novels. I have never made a secret of liking her books but people should be free to read and like who they want without being made to feel like they are breaking some sort of Literary Code. We moan when people donn't read then we slap them for not reading the right sort of novels when they do read. Hardly seems fair

Silas Thorne
02-03-2009, 11:30 PM
Exactly, what you said, Jo . ;) Hi again.

But anyway, Stephen King's statement is just one person's opinion, and I don't believe all of his novels should be regarded as great classic novels either. Some of them seem, at least to me, to have been severely under-edited. He did say though why he thought Meyer's books were popular, though I can't really comment on that since I haven't read Meyer's work. And we mustn't forget that he was reported as having said something by someone else, a journalist, who edits and selects for impact.

And all this is just one person's opinion too. :)

Dark Muse
02-03-2009, 11:38 PM
I agree with you they are not nor are they ever going to be great classic novels. I have never made a secret of liking her books but people should be free to read and like who they want without being made to feel like they are breaking some sort of Literary Code. We moan when people donn't read then we slap them for not reading the right sort of novels when they do read. Hardly seems fair

I agree with that. I have read a lot of the classics, and quite enjoy them, but hell I also like Terry Goodkinds The Sword of Truth books, and I will be the first to tell you his prose his crap.

I am just tired of her books being such a fad and people gushing about how wonderful they are. She is just WAY overrated.

Really the thing that annoys me the most about her, is just the way she made every preppy hormonal teenage girl think that she is "into" vampires.

JBI
02-04-2009, 12:00 AM
Funny, if Ms. Rowling is a terrific writer, Mr. King, how trashy must Meyer be. Either way, Mr. King is a mediocre writer, and if he's an example of good Prose by these standards, than Meyer must be really, really bad.

Silas Thorne
02-04-2009, 12:08 AM
Come on, Mr. King's hardly going to say bad things about Ms. Rowling, for with her writing so tremendously popular, it would be bad for his book sales, wouldn't it?

Dark Muse
02-04-2009, 12:15 AM
I think perhaps we should also look at these books in thier proper perspective, it is a tad unfair to compare works that were written for a YA audience to books made for a more mature audience, and I think Rowling was writing for even younger then teenagers. No her books are not brillient prose, but for the aduidence she was writing for they are good books. I personally did not get into the craze in the way many adults did but I have read some of them and they were not horrible, and looking at them in context of thier intended audience they were decent books.

Even though a lot of adults to start reading some of these works, perhaps we should stop judging them as adult books.

And yes I am being hypocritical in lieu of my personal dislike for Meyer, but eh.

Joreads
02-04-2009, 01:19 AM
And yes I am being hypocritical in lieu of my personal dislike for Meyer, but eh.

Hey Muse that is allowed. :D
You actually make some really good points. Although I am not a teenager and haven't been for some time but we will not talk about that;) I still loved both HP and Twilight and as far as I am concerned that is allowed. If King wants to dislike the books he is free to do so but I would have thought common manners would have him read the books first before saying so.

Hi Silas it has been a while since we talked. I am glad that you agree. Read and let read I say. These books are popular for a reason and that is up for debate as to why I still am not sure myself. Maybe that is what it is we should be looking at why are they so popular?

mayneverhave
02-04-2009, 04:54 AM
To quote the late Mitch Hedberg

"Every book is a children's book if the kid can read."

semi-fly
02-04-2009, 09:50 AM
If an author, any author, can make you pick up their book and read it, whether you personally like the author or not, is something special. Every piece of literature and/or it's author has their niche audience, to believe King's work is any different from that of Meyer's in that respect would simply be ludicrous.

Tyler Self
02-04-2009, 10:10 AM
I think King is just jealous that Meyer stole some of his readers (at least for a time). I like Twilight myself so poop on King.

chrismythoi
02-04-2009, 11:36 AM
i think the phrase 'pot calling the kettle black' applies here.
although a interesting point that has emerged is 'what is a good book?' surely its just opinion and nothing more. hence if you want to assert meyer is a better writer than socrates, then i shall respect your opinion but disagree.

oopsycandy
02-04-2009, 11:55 AM
I've not read any of the Harry Potters or Twilight series but my kids have and my 13 year old loves the Twilight series. I'm happy that she likes reading anything and as someone who loves vampire stories I am tempted to give them a try. I have two bookcases in my house for my 'proper' books and a cuboard full of the sort of books you buy at train stations etc.. I love reading classics but some days I just want to be entertained by a story and not be too challenged :D

Personally I would'nt consider King a great writer and surely all books like this are written for a specific audience. So Twilight appeals to teenage girls whats the problem with that, surely if there selling really well it shows the author connected with the people she wanted to?

Dark Muse
02-04-2009, 12:30 PM
I do not consider King's work any masters of great liteature that will become classic, and in many ways he is just a commerical writer, and while I enjoy him I would not call him a Great writer, as I myself have a love-hate relationship with him.

But I still belive his writing is better then Meyers any day.

NickAdams
02-04-2009, 01:12 PM
Trust the media, whose hot topics are baby bumps and fashion faux pas, to exploit a minor comment in order to boost readership. The quote was taken from an interview done for USA Weekend (http://blogs.usaweekend.com/whos_news/2009/02/exclusive-steph.html#more) <--- click to read it in context.

He also says James Patterson is a terrible writer, but who cares about Patterson. Meyer's is very popular at the moment and fans will read anything that mentions her. King's comment doesn't remove her from the shelf, so where is the harm?

He was asked a question and gave his opinion and you can't argue against the man on such a subjective matter as good literature.

Read and let read; speak and let speak.

I've read a hundred pages of both Chamber of Secrets and Twilight. Why only a hundred? Their dull language bored me. I've done the same with a handful of King's novels, but it seemed like he was piling it on, such a ham. King does have his moments (Randall Flagg and Greg Stillson).

Drkshadow03
02-04-2009, 06:40 PM
i think the phrase 'pot calling the kettle black' applies here.
although a interesting point that has emerged is 'what is a good book?' surely its just opinion and nothing more. hence if you want to assert meyer is a better writer than socrates, then i shall respect your opinion but disagree.

For all you know Meyers is a better writer than Socrates. Socrates never wrote anything. ;)

Joreads
02-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Nick I agree with you also on Speak and let Speak but you at least had the decency to have given the books a good go before deciding that you didn't like them. That is the only thing that grates on me people that have not read the books and then saying they are crap. At least read them or try to before labeling that was the only point I was trying to make,

I understand and respect that not everyone is going to like these books that is their right. But peolpe also need to respect that some people - well actually more than some - actually like them.

Silas Thorne
02-04-2009, 07:10 PM
For all you know Meyers is a better writer than Socrates. Socrates never wrote anything. ;)

:lol: So true.