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coberst
01-30-2009, 01:58 PM
That’s philosophy for ya!

At birth an infant has a minimal innate arithmetic ability. This ability to add and subtract small numbers is called subitizing. (I am speaking of a cardinal number—a number that specifies how many objects there are in a collection, don’t confuse this with numeral—a symbol). Many animals display this subitizing ability.

At birth an infant and many other creatures have the ability to reason in a minimal way. To reason is to infer and to infer requires that a neurological structuring conducive to inferring is necessary. Thus to reason is to conceptualize and to infer. Conceptualizing is the creation of neural structures that make inferring possible.

To infer is to make very simple ‘if then’ decisions. Two ‘if then’ examples are ‘if A is true and B is true than C is true’ and ‘if A or B is true then C is true’. You can think of these as ‘and’ gates and ‘or’ gates. These two very simple inferences make it possible for us to do the reasoning that we do. If you examined your computer you would discover that these two simple inference ‘gates’ makes up your computer. All of the complex things that your computer can do results from these two simple elemental inference terms.

An infant can do math and an infant can reason. Of course, we all know that our ability to do math can go far beyond this simple innate ability. Likewise, our ability to reason can go far beyond this simple innate ability.

The philosophy department in college offers a course called Logic 101. Logic means principles. Logic 101 teaches the principles of reasoning. Every person should know the knowledge contained in Logic 101 but since few people were taught this they need to learn this on their own. If our schools did not teach arithmetic all citizens would be well advised to get a book on arithmetic and learn it on their own. Such is true also about reasoning; Logic 101 is the principles of reasoning. Just like math reasoning has vast complexities and possibilities for helping us live our lives

Who is the judge? I am the judge for me and you are the judge for you. One cannot hide from this truth and it is a no brainier that each of us is well advised to become as proficient in this matter as possible.

The Catch-22 is that the person who has little learning regarding this matter is the person most in need of self-study of this subject. In other words, the person with the least ability in making good judgments is the person who will make the judgment as to whether to spend the effort and time in acquiring the knowledge required to make good judgments.

Each of us makes many judgments every day. Each judgment made has some affect on our life. There are bad judgments, good judgments, and better judgments. The more ‘better judgments’ we make in our life the better our life will be, generally speaking.

Physics is about knowledge and is about objects in our world. Philosophy is about understanding and is about meaning that we impose upon the world of objects.

Understanding is a confluence of emotion and reason and happens rarely. It is a long step beyond knowing and is a synthesis of knowledge. When we do philosophy it is like the jazz player who integrates knowledge with emotion and plays the meaning that he or she understands. This understanding is not necessarily related to truth except that it is a synthesis of knowledge.

Physics is about knowledge concerning objects that can be measured. Knowledge is about truth, i.e. about how reality is. Philosophy is about meaning; it is an attempt to understand the world as an object of meaning; it goes beyond that which can be measured. Philosophy does not deal only with factual knowledge. Philosophy creates meaning which has no truth value in the sense that physics does. Philosophy is not merely a word game but neither is it a natural science that attempts to speak to the nature of reality.

Philosophy is a jazz solo. When we study philosophy we learn what the greatest minds have to say about these matters and from this knowledge we can get an idea of how we can do likewise.

CT (Critical Thinking) is philosophy lite. This is what philosophy means to me.

What does philosophy mean to you?

Lust Hogg
01-30-2009, 06:51 PM
Just out of curiosity, nothing more, did you do a degree in philosophy ?

coberst
01-31-2009, 08:27 AM
Just out of curiosity, nothing more, did you do a degree in philosophy ?

I am a retired electronics engineer and managed to get an MA in philosophy along the way.

Lust Hogg
01-31-2009, 02:33 PM
Excellent, i was just wondering because it was explicitly communicated in your posts that you had keen interest in philosophy. i share the same conviction

subterranean
01-31-2009, 04:47 PM
To me it would mean guidance to a simpler life.

coberst
01-31-2009, 05:20 PM
Long ago I asked a professor of philosophy “what is philosophy about?” He said that philosophy is about radically critical self-consciousness. It was 30 years later that I finally understood his meaning and was able to agree with it.

NEEMAN
02-08-2009, 04:42 PM
For me (and this is an impromptu statement on what I feel philosophy to 'be'), philosophy is the critical study of oneself and how one relates to the world as perceived by oneself.

In simpler terms, it's about examing everything you are (or think you are) with respect to the world around you.

coberst
02-08-2009, 06:21 PM
For me (and this is an impromptu statement on what I feel philosophy to 'be'), philosophy is the critical study of oneself and how one relates to the world as perceived by oneself.

In simpler terms, it's about examing everything you are (or think you are) with respect to the world around you.

Yes, that is a good description of radically critical self-consciosness.

Judas130
02-09-2009, 07:15 PM
philosophy for me is as the word suggests 'philo', 'love of' knowledge. 'Philosophy is about understanding'. True, but it is also about analysing this understanding, often, one only needs to delve into the meaning of a word, or pull out a dictionary and really scrunitinise, and then perhaps apply a concept to reality.

'meaning that we impose upon the world of objects' doesn't always apply unless you're looking at the world from an a posteriori view, or passing a teleological observation. Unless you are talking of a broader sense, which is basic thinking. It doesnt fair well to postulate on an abstract and how it applies solely in its abstract form, when looking at 'the world of objects'. What if I deny the world of objects? Go no further than, i think therefore I am?
I'd have to disagree with 'philosophy does not deal with factual knowledge'. It does, depending on your area of study, if I am constructing an argument from design, I would be looking at DNA and structure and at factual happenings in my surroundings, I would then use this as the basis by which to infer my 'meaning' upon 'the world of objects'.

I'll be looking out for you, your thread on cognitive science looks very interesting.

weltanschauung
02-10-2009, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0

billyjack
02-11-2009, 12:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0

outstanding. never heard him before. just looked at a bunch of his stuff

here's another one. has a swear or two, so beware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeT3g7udho&feature=related

weltanschauung
02-11-2009, 01:01 AM
outstanding. never heard him before. just looked at a bunch of his stuff

here's another one. has a swear or two, so beware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeT3g7udho&feature=related

you probably watched these ones, but they are brilliant, and belong in this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqs9ap3iV-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo

and if you have the time and disposition:
http://www.guba.com/watch/2000950423

billyjack
02-11-2009, 01:13 AM
LMAO at the second link. genius. thanks. watching the third. the modern day philosopher of the common man is the comedian

weltanschauung
02-11-2009, 01:15 AM
another dead hero

qspeechc
02-11-2009, 03:41 AM
Well, I read somewhere, and I agree with the author, that philosophy, is for me, should help people with pertinent issues of their life, it should help them live their life and give them choices of world views and ethics etc. that they can choose from (since not everyone is happy to accept a religion, for instance).