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imthefoolonthehill
03-03-2005, 03:23 AM
This is a thread dedicated to those who are not tree-hugging psychopaths.
Its not that I hate tree-hugging, varmit kissing city slickers - I don't hate those people.
Its that I love people who haven't completely lost their mind, people who don't refuse to wear fur, eat meat, or eat off a surface made of redwood.
I also love all people who love animals and nature even though they've never stepped outside of city limits, but this thread is not for them.
This is my thread dedicated to those special people with common sense.
So, in style with the white-trash expo, here is my thread... no hatemail please, lets keep it civil, folks.
subterranean
03-03-2005, 03:53 AM
*wistles*.....say fool, the title is kinda hatey ya know..
Snukes
03-03-2005, 11:52 AM
In the style of one who is confused, what exactly is it we should be keeping civil? Cheers in support of omnivores?
kilted exile
03-03-2005, 03:39 PM
Just quickly:
I have no problem with people eating meat, wearing fur etc. I do however believe that there is a far more humane way to kill animals than by doing what could be seen in the video link in the other thread.
I am fully aware on how the economy of many countries is dependent on the fur trade; meat export; and commercial logging. It is as a result of my awareness of these dependencies that led me to study Environmental Engineering, in the hope that when I finish my course in August I will be able to assist industries in finding ways that they can still make their neccessary profits, whilst maintaining a reasonable and ethical management system which does not destroy what little environmentally significant areas are left.
amuse
03-03-2005, 06:13 PM
i am not special and have no common sense. i guess i won't be replying to this thread!
I'd rather be a tree hugging psychopath than a narrow minded fool.
And just a few words... let's keep it civil? you think calling someone a tree hugging psychopath is civil? Or a moron? How's that civil?
I apologize, fool, that my lifestyle disturbs you. As a non-preaching vegetarian, or, rather, a "tree-hugging, varmit-kissing psychopath." I never intended to communicate that vegetarianism proves a superior way of life as opposed to meat-eaters; what an individual decides to consume seems solely up to him/her. I think, however, you choose to be offended, for reasons unknown; and I, too, feel offended for such immature name-calling, as I think that the difference between what one consumes from another requires no difference in common sense, as you imply. If you find some kind of impulsive, less rational satisfaction from calling us such names, I suggest you consult the forum rules first; otherwise, you prove nothing more than the existence of the lesser-thinking, more emotionally unstable Freudian id.
A link for additional information: http://www.online-literature.com/forums/announcement.php?f=9
Helga
03-03-2005, 06:58 PM
well fool if it was my thread that offended you so I am sorry. I was asked to pass it on and I did so. I think this is a very important issue but I also know that not everyone agrees with me but that is OK, I just hope you checked out the subject I was talking about and watched the video. I have videos that changed people around me. If that makes me simple (in your opinion)than so be it. and I am sorry you feel that way
subterranean
03-03-2005, 08:13 PM
Shhh Ash..you know you are special and do have common sense..
i am not special and have no common sense. i guess i won't be replying to this thread!
Everybody let's all just excuse Fool with his comments,...math and physics give too much preassure on him...:rolleyes:
And Snukes, agree with you there. There's this country in Africa (forgot what), where the community is fully dependent from tourism, which is animal hunting...When UNEP's regulation to stop animal killings apply, their econmy fell down. But agree that it doesn't mean that there's no other way to solve the dependency problem. Human are creative enough to find a solution for that.
papayahed
03-03-2005, 10:33 PM
*scratching me head wondering if I belong in this thread or not*
ehhhhh, I'll worry about it after my peta meetings
Stanislaw
03-03-2005, 10:41 PM
Yeah, whats so horrible about animals being skinned alive...or death by electracution...or starvation, or wait my favourite torture.
Yeah screw those tree hugging psychopaths, concerned about animal cruelty. I mean, man is the keeper of the Earth so we should be allowed to torture anything around us. Hell, I wish all those namby pamby tree huggers would get a life and worry about real things like should I buy a hummer H2 or should I just skip the pretense and just burn tires in my back yard.
Fool, if you don't agree with something, don't comment. Your in-your-face anticks aren't very amusing, and your humour is lacking. :mad:
subterranean
03-03-2005, 11:16 PM
Stan, what is this???? You're not being civil yourself.. :mad:
Yeah, whats so horrible about animals being skinned alive...or death by electracution...or starvation, or wait my favourite torture.
Yeah screw those tree hugging psychopaths, concerned about animal cruelty. I mean, man is the keeper of the Earth so we should be allowed to torture anything around us. Hell, I wish all those namby pamby tree huggers would get a life and worry about real things like should I buy a hummer H2 or should I just skip the pretense and just burn tires in my back yard.
Stanislaw
03-04-2005, 11:10 AM
I apologize, and will make no further comment in this thread. :argue:
Psyche
03-04-2005, 01:24 PM
I am very happy being a herbivore, my body does not feel in tune after I eat meat, and I do not think that the fact that I listen to that instinct should make me, or any others who choose not to eat animal flash a target for unnecessary and spiteful insults.
subterranean
03-05-2005, 02:52 AM
Apologize for that Psyche.. I'm an omnivore but totally have no problem with anyone..herbivore or omnivore..or whatever they prefer to eat.
Snorom
03-05-2005, 04:28 AM
This thread is not for me? Awwwww, how could you? :( :( :( :(
subterranean
03-07-2005, 12:47 AM
SNOROM???
Fool is that your new user name????
imthefoolonthehill
03-07-2005, 01:29 AM
Wow... what a response, and you know what the shame of it all is? I'm only going to skim it all...
No, no one really offended me, it takes a lot more to make me mad....
In case you guys haven't noticed, my posts are a little random... a little scatterbrained...
So, with this in mind, let's all be happy, and if it's legal for you, go grab another beer.
*revs chainsaw*
anyone seen any giant redwoods around?
subterranean
03-07-2005, 01:59 AM
Well Fool, I told everyone to not to take it too seriously..since I thought maybe you were having hard times with math and stuffs...
Miss Darcy
03-07-2005, 02:10 AM
anyone seen any giant redwoods around?
Not around my place, sorry, though we do have a couple o' gumtrees....:D
But not to worry, they're not the hugging type anyway, bit too rough for my taste....:p
imthefoolonthehill
03-09-2005, 12:03 AM
I wonder if they offer HMA
Herbacidal Maniacs Anonymous
baddad
03-11-2005, 04:21 AM
tree hugging lumberjack, fur trapping peta member, caring carnivore, user of mass transit that still enjoys a good campfire, even though it releases all that carbon from the local forest sink, and hater of any extreme end of an argument.....just on general principle...not sure if I fit the criteria for this thread.....but don't care either, 'cause it engendered so much reaction (in the full sense of the word) I was a little surprised that anyone could judge whether they fit the criteria or not........
IWilKikU
03-11-2005, 07:34 AM
This thread reminds me of John Stuart's America: The Book. In it he has a section on lobbyists, and the greenpeace lobby he describes as "tree-huggers, air-snugglers, Grass-gropers, flower-fondlers, and forest-fingerbangers" :lol:
Psyche
03-12-2005, 12:03 AM
I am rather fond of fondling Daffodils.
Basil
03-12-2005, 12:11 AM
Who is Daffodils? Inquiring minds want to know!
Psyche
03-12-2005, 01:53 AM
She is the loveliest flower ever to grace this Earth. Very fondle-worthy. I especially love it when her center is white, she reminds me of a reverse Cadbury creme egg, all things spring and sproing-ing...Mmm...Creme Eggs...*drool.* :D
In Czech a daffodil is called 'narcis'... just got me wondering about stuff...
btw, Psyche, I like your sig :nod:
Jack_Aubrey
03-12-2005, 01:05 PM
Hey remember when Rush Limbaugh was a giant junkie?
Who's Rush Limbaugh? *runs the guy through Google*
Jack_Aubrey
03-12-2005, 01:29 PM
That was a joke right? Rush Limbaugh= The rotund radio talk show host that all conservative republicans love more than money.
No joke at all, I doubt I'd be able to listen to an American radio here :D
Jack_Aubrey
03-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Yeah good point. But what I was referring to was when he was caught buying drugs because he was hopleslly addicted to them. It was a huge fiasco because he had always insulted drug addicts as weak people, and now he himself was addicted. Pure irony.
baddad
03-12-2005, 11:08 PM
....so......, Rush Limbaugh is, ironically, a creme egg daffodil.....right? ...with a soft creamy centre that got that way after exposure to illicit drugs.....?
*Gee, I learn a lot on this site*
Basil
03-12-2005, 11:51 PM
In Czech a daffodil is called 'narcis'
Jay, over here 'narcissus' is used to refer to the flower genus which includes daffodils and jonquils (referring back to Narcissus of the Greek myth). In the final scene of The Sound and the Fury, Benjy is clutching a narcissus.
BTW, I got rid of the X, so you can rest easier now!! :p
lol, my sleep wasn't disturbed because of it at all :D
Yeah, I was thinking the Greek myth Narcissus kinda interesting thing :), thanks for a quick peek into botany :p
imthefoolonthehill
03-14-2005, 02:25 AM
thank you Basil, that was an unspoken annoyance of mine.
IWilKikU
03-14-2005, 10:57 AM
I second that unspoken annoyence, but the last time there was an arguement about sigs, all holy heck broke loose. Remember Nicholas Burras, or that dude who had "Pray for our brave troops fighting in Iraq" or somthing like that? Well, if you don't, take my word for it. Holy Heck.
Basil
03-14-2005, 12:27 PM
Kik, do you really think that 'nicholasburrus' was legit?
Stanislaw
03-15-2005, 12:11 AM
he has his own forum now.
Basil
03-15-2005, 12:16 AM
and you joined it, right? So you talked to him there?
Stanislaw
03-15-2005, 12:22 AM
Well I did join it, but I had trouble posting, but he does seem to post there, so I assume he is a real person, and it appears that he has gotten over his endocarditas.
Basil
03-15-2005, 01:14 AM
Sorry, I don't mean to keep harping on this, but you actually saw the name "nicholas burrus' there? I never, never thought that guy could be for real . . .
IWilKikU
03-15-2005, 07:22 AM
nope, he was for real alright. :eek:
Sancho
03-15-2005, 10:49 AM
He’s only 14 you know.
Fool, tell me you did not vote for the antichrist (Helen Chenoweth).
Basil
03-15-2005, 12:05 PM
He’s only 14 you know.14? Really? When did he let that fact slip out? :p
nope, he was for real alrightBut how do you know? What's the empirical evidence? I know some people exchanged PMs with him, but is there any reason to think he was for real? I think it's far more likely that he was a character invented for the purpose of injecting random, senseless posts into the forum to annoy folks. Unless someone can prove otherwise, that's what I'm going to believe.
imthefoolonthehill
03-16-2005, 03:23 AM
Sancho- no I'm only 17 - soon to be 18.
I would have though, she wasn't the antichrist... all the pinko commies hated her though.
Are you from Atlanta, Idaho?
I love that town... The sawtooth mountains are the most beautiful place on earth.
Fool, I'm sure Sancho meant Nicolas was only 14.
Sancho
03-16-2005, 11:57 AM
Heh, heh, heh; Hey Fool,
Weeee-doggie. Idaho has an Atlanta too. Nope, I live in the one down here in Georgia. You-know, the South Eastern United States. Land of: Spanish Moss, Plantations, Grey uniformed Civil War Soldiers, Stone Mountain, Margaret Mitchell, Flannery O’Conner, Boiled Peanuts :brow: , Braves Baseball, Yosemite Sam Mud Flaps, thick and sultry humidity, trailer parks, pickled pigs feet in jars at Fillin’ Stations, an unfortunate recurring recessive gene in the population, The Waffle House, mean-mean Sheriff’s Deputies with mirrored sun glasses…I could go on and on. Incidentally, I learned at an early age, that when you get pulled over by the cops in the South, it is a poor idea to say “Is there a problem, Deputy Fife?” :rage:
I only know of Helen Chenoweth from the glowing articles written about her in my Sierra Club Magazine. I’ve been a proud member of that organization since 1982. … “He’s a friend of them long haired Pinko type Commie fags, I betcha he’s even got a commie flag, tacked up on the wall, inside of his garage.” (Charlie Daniels, Uneasy Rider)
I have sympathy and understanding for subsistence hunters. I lived near Fairbanks, Alaska for many years and a lot of people up there, unlike in the lower 48, depend on hunting, trapping and fishing for survival. Of course, that knowledge didn’t stop me from the dangerous pursuit of walking along a trap-line with a stick, springing leg-hold traps. Leg-hold traps are just wrong. An animal lies there, in agony, in sub-zero temps, with his shattered ankle bones grinding together for 24 – 48 – 72 hours waiting for the trapper to come along and bonk him on his head with a pipe. This is assuming he doesn’t make his escape by chewing off his own leg.
Whoops, got a little preachy there. Although I did have the unpleasant task one day of freeing my dog from a fox leg-hold trap.
Another topic, whew! Jay is correct-a-mundo “He’s only 14 you know.” I was talking about Nick Burrus there. I may be off in La-La Land again, but wasn’t that his Siggy on this forum? Wasn’t he the guy who liked Faulkner’s As I Lay Dying?
imthefoolonthehill
03-21-2005, 05:45 PM
Everyone was mad at miss Chenowith for wanting to can salmon ... as in eat them. Everyone was all upset because they were supposedly an endangered species... well, they aren't. Sure, they are listed as endangered, but they aren't going away any time soon. There are millions of 'em up in Alaska and plenty of them down here.
I thought all the bumper stickers that said Can Helen, not Salmon were funny though.
Mountain out of Molehills.
I found Helen Chenoweth oddly worried about salmon too, hearing much about her, as I reside nearby in Oregon. "Mountain out of molehills" perfectly describes the whole predicamanet, as you said, but, oh well, at least she put some effort somewhere.
(obviously we can only skim the surface of the conflict, it dealing with local politics :p)
baddad
03-22-2005, 02:20 AM
Yes, there are millions of Salmon in the world's oceans. And yes, there used to be 100's of millions a short few decades ago. Commercial fishing techniques would quickly wipe out the species completely if it were not for 'territorial waters' resource laws in most countries. Even still, the oceans' food chain is endangered, make no misktake. Anyone studying environment, or physical geography resources, or climatology can access lots of data that will scare anyone making their livings, or enjoying the benefits of, a healthy ocean invironment.
And really, dry land isn't in such good shape either when it comes to man's stewardship of its resources......
Not wanting to preach, but just pointing out that there are many anthropogenic threats to everything (including us) living on this planet. These issues are not completely in the realm of fiction, or some hot headed affectionado's of headlines, tree hugging screamers, etc. This stuff is real.
When in doubt as to the varacity of a claim.......check the aggregate scientific data sources for yourself and have an informed opinion......
I'll just wait right here...........
Stanislaw
03-22-2005, 11:42 AM
14? Really? When did he let that fact slip out? :p
But how do you know? What's the empirical evidence? I know some people exchanged PMs with him, but is there any reason to think he was for real? I think it's far more likely that he was a character invented for the purpose of injecting random, senseless posts into the forum to annoy folks. Unless someone can prove otherwise, that's what I'm going to believe.
It is a distinct possibility, however how do anyone of us know that the other is infact a real person, not just some confused created persona??? :confused:
Yes, there are millions of Salmon in the world's oceans. And yes, there used to be 100's of millions a short few decades ago. Commercial fishing techniques would quickly wipe out the species completely if it were not for 'territorial waters' resource laws in most countries. Even still, the oceans' food chain is endangered, make no misktake. Anyone studying environment, or physical geography resources, or climatology can access lots of data that will scare anyone making their livings, or enjoying the benefits of, a healthy ocean invironment.
And really, dry land isn't in such good shape either when it comes to man's stewardship of its resources......
Not wanting to preach, but just pointing out that there are many anthropogenic threats to everything (including us) living on this planet. These issues are not completely in the realm of fiction, or some hot headed affectionado's of headlines, tree hugging screamers, etc. This stuff is real.
When in doubt as to the varacity of a claim.......check the aggregate scientific data sources for yourself and have an informed opinion......
I'll just wait right here...........
Well said, baddad. I had to quote your whole message to read it again, and encourage others to also. I could not have communicated my sentiments better myself.:)
imthefoolonthehill
03-23-2005, 02:58 AM
Mountains out of Molehills.
The fish aren't going anywhere....
except hopefully on my dinner plate.
Indifference - have i commited a sin against humanity, or perhaps against myself?
baddad
03-23-2005, 03:46 AM
Mountains out of Molehills.
The fish aren't going anywhere....
except hopefully on my dinner plate.
Indifference - have i commited a sin against humanity, or perhaps against myself?
IIIIEEEEE!!!! Indifference be not a sin lad, but a crime........
Myself, I'm indifferent to most things that don't benefit me directly.....but I'm sure the punishment is mostly of an ethereal nature.......
*crosses fingers, knocks on wood, beseeches false gods for protection*
Mono: thanks for the nod. I've good faith that I'm speaking the truth here. In the past I studied 52 different scientific papers in a 3rd year Geography class, some of which were sponsored by the U.N Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.All dealt with environmental changes mostly directly attributable to man and technology. The oceans though vast, have been taken for granted for so long that many thresholds have already been passed as far as the foodchain is concerned. Whenever a species is endangered we limit its quota, and move up/down the food chain and exploit another/the-next species instead. People think this will allow the initially threatened species time to recover. But instead, we remove the next species in line, often the original species food source (or a critical symbiotic relationship) and so we make matters worse. Viscious circle......catch 22.......conundrum......take your pick, but definately not good news for those concerned with retaining an ecological balance in the seas....
*silently promises 'no more preaching'!*
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