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aBIGsheep
12-16-2008, 09:56 AM
Some things I came across and felt like sharing. It was intended for a scary story site.


- Choose a theme, and stick to it.
Any hack can put a bunch of ominous-sounding words together and call it a scary story. But what's the purpose? Without a theme, a story lacks meaning and focus. While making creepypasta meaningful might not be the most important thing in the world, focus is still a good thing to keep in mind. The theme will most likely be the central fear that the pasta is trying to tap into. You have your fear of death, fear of pain, fear of insanity. There are also other, more deeper fears that can be written about. Fear of fate, abandonment, the afterlife, sudden transformation. And that's only the beginning. With so many themes to choose from, there's no excuse for not having one.

- Keep an audience in mind.
Just who are you writing for? Think more specifically than that. If it's set in a subway or factory, chances are you're writing for city-dwellers. If it involves losing a child, you're probably writing for parents, or at the very least, someone's older sibling. You might want to return to your theme to get a general idea of who your story might appeal to.

- Structure the damn thing.
If it doesn't look good, it won't read well. If the piece reads too awkwardly, or if people have to read the thing twice to figure out exactly when something ends and another thing begins, it won't scare anyone. Except for maybe your English teacher. Paragraph breaks should be logical. They are used when the setting changes, a new conflict is introduced, or when a conversation begins. They can also be used to indicate a brief pause in time. Time pauses can be useful to help create a sense of rhythm, making a story more poetic despite the language not being so. Repetition of a certain phrase between paragraphs helps as well. Even if you have a really short pasta that's only a paragraph, it still has to read well. Try reading it out loud and see if it still makes any sense.





Don't be scared to have some sentence variety. Don't start with the same word over and over again. Don't try to be boring. Don't say don't at the beginning of every sentence. Try and spice it up a bit.

READ EVERYTHING OUT LOUD! And don't read it to yourself the way you want it to be read. Read it plain and straight and see if it flows. One of the most natural things about writing is that it's just like a story except that it's on a piece of paper. If you read your story out loud to yourself, you'll hear all the odd inconsistencies. It should flow naturally, like something rolling off the tip of your tongue. Take the time to read out loud to yourself and iron out all the unneeded clutter of your work.

Take the time to go back and check your grammar. When you're writing something, you want to be taken seriously. You don't want your article to passed off as another mindless rambling, am I right? Take pride in your work and take the time to fix your mistakes.There are some things that can be forgiven, like commas and semi colons and the occasional typo. but if u start typin lik dis den who iz guna tak u srsly? Not me. Your pasta may look pretty appetizing but if it doesn't have all the minute mechanics of a regular English paper, it's just another sloppy mess.

One, of my, pet peeves, is going crazy with commas, one of the tendencies for a fledgling writer, is to put a comma, wherever they think, you should, pause for a split, second. Same . . . thing . . . with . . . ellipses.

The only time you should use a comma is when there's a natural pause in a sentence; when you're listing things; or when you're about to being a new clause.
An ellipsis should only be used when you're citing something or when you're wanting to hack off anything that you don't deem necessary to be read. An ellipsis is meant to shorten a sentence. But if you . . . use . . . too many . . . ellipsis . . . then it just becomes an eye sore.

AuntShecky
12-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Ok. You're on the right track, but a couple of quibbles.
(1) The last thing a writer should consider is his or her "audience." That's what hacks do. The best advice that I've ever heard is "Write to please yourself." Write the best story you can, and if it's any good it will find an audience. Do you remember that television show, Mystery Science Theatre 3000?
An interviewer told the show's creator, Joel Hodgson (I think his name was) that many viewers weren't getting his jokes. Joel replied that "The right people will get them." Maybe we ought to think of it this way: "Write the story you yourself would like to read."

2. Can't argue with your advice to read the story aloud. That's the term, btw, not "out loud."

3. Finally, I couldn't agree with you more about obeying the rules about spelling, punctuation, and grammar. We see some works in which the author veers from the standard norm for creative purposes, but the old proverb is true: "You can't break the rules until you know what they are."

I would like you to look up "ellipsis." Not sure that your definition is correct.

The way I understand it, an ellipsis (punctuated by
three dots(. . .)means that part of the sentence has been removed, such as in a quotation in which the writer is not quoting the source's complete statement. When the ellipsis occurs at the end of a sentence (where the period would normally go), the punctuation is a series of four dots (. . . .) meaning there is an abrupt stop, or the author has
left the text "hanging." Needless to say, as a dramatic effect, using an ellipsis to end the story is in most cases an affectation, and as such should be
avoided.

All in all, this is a useful thread. Thank you for posting it.

Auntie

mercymyqueen
12-16-2008, 02:58 PM
1)Consider your audience to the extent that plot and other elements must be understandable and believable, not to the extent that you're censoring yourself. Still, it's basic to think about who will be reading your work, even if the audience is you.

2) no quibbles

3) The double dash, I think, is just as dramatic as an ellipsis, and could be interchanged with it in some cases.

aBIGsheep
12-16-2008, 07:14 PM
Ok. You're on the right track, but a couple of quibbles.
(1) The last thing a writer should consider is his or her "audience." That's what hacks do.

Isn't calling me a hack a bit rude? What is the point of writing something if it's not going to be read. If you don't take your audience into view I might as well write worthless babble that I, and only I, can read.

He sits in the mindless rift and it hops along to watch from afar.

I understand COMPLETELY that a lost giraffe is tip-toeing to get a better glimpse above the jungle trees. But do you, my audience, understand? Nope.
What am I doing as I'm writing this long-winded post to you? I'm considering you and how you'll perceive it.

The best advice that I've ever heard is "Write to please yourself." Write the best story you can, and if it's any good it will find an audience. Do you remember that television show, Mystery Science Theatre 3000?
An interviewer told the show's creator, Joel Hodgson (I think his name was) that many viewers weren't getting his jokes. Joel replied that "The right people will get them." Maybe we ought to think of it this way: "Write the story you yourself would like to read."

Much like what mercymyqueen said, you're your own audience.


2. Can't argue with your advice to read the story aloud. That's the term, btw, not "out loud."

I don't really see a problem with saying out loud. It does the same duty and doesn't take away from saying 'aloud'. They're synonymous.

3. Finally, I couldn't agree with you more about obeying the rules about spelling, punctuation, and grammar. We see some works in which the author veers from the standard norm for creative purposes, but the old proverb is true: "You can't break the rules until you know what they are."

Dude, I'm going to start saying that. Great quote.

I would like you to look up "ellipsis." Not sure that your definition is correct.

The way I understand it, an ellipsis (punctuated by
three dots(. . .)means that part of the sentence has been removed, such as in a quotation in which the writer is not quoting the source's complete statement. When the ellipsis occurs at the end of a sentence (where the period would normally go), the punctuation is a series of four dots (. . . .) meaning there is an abrupt stop, or the author has
left the text "hanging." Needless to say, as a dramatic effect, using an ellipsis to end the story is in most cases an affectation, and as such should be
avoided.

Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from Greek ἔλλειψις "omission") in printing and writing refers to a mark or series of marks that usually indicate an intentional omission of a word or a phrase from the original text. An ellipsis can also be used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence

That's the definition right there.

All in all, this is a useful thread. Thank you for posting it.

Auntie

No problemo.



3) The double dash, I think, is just as dramatic as an ellipsis, and could be interchanged with it in some cases.

SWEET JESUS MARY AND JOSEPH!
I've just discovered the double dash and I love it with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

Delta40
12-20-2008, 04:12 AM
Actually guys, I wish I had the patience to read the whole thread but what caught my eye is writing for the audience. The artist first and foremost writes for the self. The audience is a secondary consideration. It is rather like being at university and writing a paper based on what you think your tutor would like to hear or developing and formulating your own ideas and putting them into a well structured essay with appropriate research to back your argument. I know which I prefer. This of course is only my considered opinion and I hope it enhances the discussion.

I agree with the punctuation grammar thing. It is something I can spend my life working on as an ongoing learning experience!

aBIGsheep
12-20-2008, 04:39 PM
Go read the rest of the thread.

shortstoryfan
12-20-2008, 06:01 PM
The most beautiful thing about creative writing is that it is creative.

Trilaque
12-20-2008, 06:07 PM
To be honest, I completely agree with everything you have to say Sheep, because I try to teach people this every day.


There is one aspect I feel you are missing though. People need to develop their own style of writing WHILE taking all of these points into account. Essentially blending what they have learned with what they already know.

Only then can you truly make an amazing story.