Winston Vaporized

[benfica14]

I have an important question about 1984. At the end Winston is never actually vaporized but it is assumed that he will be vaporized. Why didnt they vaporize him in Room 101 and when will big brother vaporize him?

[The Atheist]

I have an important question about 1984. At the end Winston is never actually vaporized but it is assumed that he will be vaporized. Why didnt they vaporize him in Room 101 and when will big brother vaporize him?

Anytime they feel like it. Maybe never. The party is god.

As readers, we don't miss the point that Winston does - his life is over anyway, the date his heart stops beating is immaterial.

[mtpspur]

I agree that Winston's life is over and allowing him to just stew will also be a lesson to others as the word spreads (as it will) that he is a marked man. That's probably the only purpose he can serve anymore plus killing him would be a mercy at this point.

[Protaginst]

We are the Dead.

Winston awnsered you,within the novel. Winston isn't himself after the Miniluv. He has been transformed into all of the other flawless BB loving members of the party. Inside he has died, he has no personality, he cares for nothing, his life at the end is fueled by gin. I can't see him dieing, now seeing as he is non-human, completely cured of all "anti" thoughts.

mtpspur, I'll have to disagree with you about the word spreading about what happened to him. In the world of 1984, all humans are dettached from each other, out of fear that one and another is a member of the thought police.

Winston may in fact, may already be vaporized. He was given a new job, his comrades were already vaporized. The straight defintion of being vaporized is never given to us, just that they become an un-person. Winston is no longer an indivsual in society leaving the term vaporized open to the "curing" of bad seeds of society, and turning them into mindless drones.

It's not like anyone will bring Winston up ever again, or notice him from his past. In the novel's world you are alone. In those few months that he was gone, all written records of him were stricken from any books,his job given to someone else, and his friends have already used double -think to forget he ever existed. In a sense he was dropped right into a new life after Miniluv, and he will continute to live it, not if he likes it or not, he loves it, because unlike the Pre-101 Winston, Post-Winston loves Big Brother, as he is God.

[mtpspur]

Thank you Pro for pointing that out. Admittedly it's been decades since I read the book and I suspect my lapse was caused by all the spy novels I was also reading at the time. I appreciate your input and stand corrected.

[Enjoi.]

Thank you Pro for pointing that out. Admittedly it's been decades since I read the book and I suspect my lapse was caused by all the spy novels I was also reading at the time. I appreciate your input and stand corrected.

It's a great piece of literature. One to be discussed for generations to come (as we are doing now :D) Reread it if you can. It doesn't get old. :)

[lukgem]

I have an important question about 1984. At the end Winston is never actually vaporized but it is assumed that he will be vaporized. Why didnt they vaporize him in Room 101 and when will big brother vaporize him?

I think its because O'Brien and the ministry had cured him of his unorthodoxy, victory for the the party and bb. They never vapourised any cured polits. They let them carry on as shells of their former selves to be seen by others, waiting for important announcements and cheering a reduction of the chocolate ration. Their was hope though, there seemed to be an internal struggle within Winston. He may have died hating big brother.