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SlAyR
12-05-2008, 09:50 PM
Hi all!

I have done some searches around this forum and the Brave New World forum and I have yet to encounter this topic :). I am currently trying to compare these two as a presentation (since my English project requires us to do a presentation and an essay on the novels we picked, in my case the novels were 1984 and Brave New World) and a possible topic my teacher suggested to me is the topic of sex. In these two novels, the way the government perceives sex are completely different but their ultimate goal is very clear, and that is for people to be loyal to their governments first and not have an intimate relationship with anyone. In 1984, sex is virtually banished, and is only seen as a necessity, as Winston's wife referred to it as "a duty to the party", while in Brave New World, sex is actually encouraged but relationships are not permitted. What do you guys think? Because this is pretty much all I can think of at the moment.


Thanks,
SlAyR

The Atheist
12-06-2008, 03:07 AM
Hi all!

I have done some searches around this forum and the Brave New World forum and I have yet to encounter this topic :). I am currently trying to compare these two as a presentation (since my English project requires us to do a presentation and an essay on the novels we picked, in my case the novels were 1984 and Brave New World) and a possible topic my teacher suggested to me is the topic of sex. In these two novels, the way the government perceives sex are completely different but their ultimate goal is very clear, and that is for people to be loyal to their governments first and not have an intimate relationship with anyone. In 1984, sex is virtually banished, and is only seen as a necessity, as Winston's wife referred to it as "a duty to the party", while in Brave New World, sex is actually encouraged but relationships are not permitted. What do you guys think? Because this is pretty much all I can think of at the moment.


Thanks,
SlAyR

Yep, and you seem to have it under control with the way sexual desire is used to the benefit of the ruling cliques.

In 1984 the sex act is degraded to a pleasureless union, while in BNW, it's degraded to nothing by its total availability. It's an old analogy - if you have fillet steak for dinner every night, even that becomes boring after a while.

SlAyR
12-10-2008, 04:27 PM
Thanks Atheist, I am also wondering, are there any real life examples that this can connect to? because I've been thinking about this and I can't think of anything now or in history I can connect this to.


Thanks,
SlAyR

The Atheist
12-10-2008, 05:59 PM
Thanks Atheist, I am also wondering, are there any real life examples that this can connect to? because I've been thinking about this and I can't think of anything now or in history I can connect this to.


Thanks,
SlAyR

The Roman Catholic Church?

[/insert ducking for cover emoticon here]

The RCC gets its priests and nuns to subrogate sexual desire to love for god. I'm probably not the best person to explain it!

:lol: