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NecroCombine666
12-01-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm interested in shattering books. Not super cute romance, but books with insane gore, books with shattering concepts, risky claims, books that could ruin a mind if they fell into the wrong hands. Extreme books if you will. Books like David Icke writes. Books that are so wild and out of this world you would never believe. Books you hate for the claims they make or content they old. Books that disgust you. So if you've got a book that meets any of this criteria add it to the list. For me I have none. Or at least haven't came across one yet and I doubt I will considering I'm into this stuff. Lets see what kind of books we dig up.
Please no mentions of the bible. We all know that would start a giant fight.
NickAdams
12-01-2008, 11:37 PM
Works of fiction like Marquis de Sade's The 120 Days of Sodom, or are you also interested in non-fiction works like those written by Galileo and Einstein?
There's actually a book about this subject. I think it's called Books to Ruin a Mind, or something like that.
NecroCombine666
12-02-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm looking for anything.
NecroCombine666
12-02-2008, 11:52 AM
hmm i did a search for "Books to Ruin a Mind" and found nothing
amalia1985
12-02-2008, 05:05 PM
Τhe Clockwork Orange or American Psycho. Just a suggestion.
armenian
12-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Mein Kampf
NecroCombine666
12-02-2008, 06:21 PM
ha I remeber Mein Kampf. My hippie teacher encouraged me to read it. Telling me how it was banned and burned in all kinds of places. After that I used to walk around school to see what stares I got with books like "The Serial Killer Files" and the Satanic Bible.
armenian
12-02-2008, 06:30 PM
its overhyped for what it is and boring
i read it when i was younger and thought going against decency ment i had an open mind
NecroCombine666
12-02-2008, 06:32 PM
yeah. It's nice to dig just deep enough to find out the shock value but with most books once its discovered its worthless and you see that the media and religon overhypes things. Like banning Harry Potter.
kelby_lake
12-03-2008, 03:03 PM
Lolita
xenon
12-04-2008, 03:15 AM
Darwin's Origin of Species. Read it with something by Richard Dawkins (i.e. The Selfish Gene)for full effect.
No gore or anything, but philosophically, evolution, especially in its generalized form as interpreted by Dawkins, has radical and perhaps deeply disturbing implications, upending our traditional views of human life, both religious and humanistic. Evolution is able to explain humans as a natural phenomenon, purely in terms of cause and effect, rather than purpose. Taken to its logical conclusion with Dawkins, we realize that we are merely vehicles for replicating DNA, and everything, all human desires, can be explained in these terms. Sexual love can be interpreted as selected instinct for producing more copies of one's genes, while altruistic love (such as sacrificing one's life to preserve those of other humans) can be interpreted as preserving many vehicles that probably carry copies of one's genes, thereby maximizing the number of copies of these genes. This necessarily entails nihilism.
Sorry for probably stirring up possibly distasteful controversy, but controversy ought naturally be a consequence of how much a book "shakes the world."
backline
12-04-2008, 03:21 AM
Niccolo Machiavelli: The Prince
I remember this book really riled up some people in a College English class I was in some decades ago.
I thought Machiavelli was simply codifying some observations. He seemed to be reporting on some pretty normative ways power people stay in power. Accurately, I thought!
Dr. Hill
12-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Read De Profundis, especially if you take interest in Wilde.
iswarya
04-29-2011, 05:58 AM
the book 120 days of sodom has nothing great about it. it is a usual monotonous book with sex as its theme, but nothing delightfully entertaining as you might expect, in my opinion
thank you
Pensive
04-29-2011, 09:14 AM
Mein Kampf
Was just going to mention it myself. And I think the same goes for other political works of fiction/non-fiction...
mal4mac
04-29-2011, 09:55 AM
Schopenhauer has been the most shattering/enlightening/disgusting read for me. Try "Aphorisms on the Wisdom of Life" for starters
Others:
American Psycho
Blood Meridian
Notes from Underground - Dostoevsky
Barnaby Rudge - perhaps surprisingly, but this is Dickens at his most extreme... example (slight spoiler): one anti-hero ties his employer to a chair and destroys his home and workplace around him, shattering his mind; then he sets fire to the mansion house of the local squire while dragging two young ladies off to a world of sex slavery... (What the Dickens!)
"Life is not really given to us to be enjoyed, but to be overcome, to be got over." - Schopenhauer.
_Paul
04-29-2011, 12:26 PM
The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene. That is the book that brought me crashing down from the clouds into the cruel world of reality with an almighty bang. It has however improved my quality of life as I with a fresh insight I managed to turn a somewhat destitute life around.
ChicagoReader
04-29-2011, 03:23 PM
I agree with Blood Meridian, probably the most violent book I have ever read.
Stonebolt
04-29-2011, 04:00 PM
The Game by Neil Strauss. This book is a true story. If you don't believe me, pick it up yourself and do a quick google search of some of the main characters. It contains themes of desperation, deception, insanity and misogyny. By the end of the book, you will believe in Karma, I can promise you that.
Propter W.
04-30-2011, 07:23 AM
Ishmael by Daniel Quinn might not be putrid enough for your tastes, but it's very interesting all the same.
Read about the human brain and consciousness.
mortalterror
04-30-2011, 05:08 PM
Tropic of Cancer- Henry Miller
120 Days of Sodom- Marquis de Said
The Farce of Sodom: or The Quintessence of Debauchery- John Wilmot
Naked Lunch- William Burroughs
Delta of Venus- Anais Nin
American Psycho-Bret Easton Ellis
The Turner Diaries- William Luther Pierce
Caliban's Isle
04-30-2011, 06:10 PM
Pride and Prejudice
Delta40
04-30-2011, 06:20 PM
Disgrace by Jim Coetzee
Cunninglinguist
04-30-2011, 07:28 PM
Communist manifesto
Critique of pure reason
The Origin of Species (already been mentioned)
Principa Mathematica - Newton
The Wealth of Nations - Smith
Social Contract, & Discourse on Origins of Inequity - Rousseau
On the Motion of the Heart and Blood - William Harvey
The Comedy
The Aeneid
The Iliad, & Odyssey
I suppose I should also mention Aristotle and Plato, but you can't get too much better than that unless you resort to the Bible or the Qur'an
Edit:
I forgot to mention Freud
Antares
05-03-2011, 07:05 AM
Niccolo Machiavelli: The Prince
I remember this book really riled up some people in a College English class I was in some decades ago.
I thought Machiavelli was simply codifying some observations. He seemed to be reporting on some pretty normative ways power people stay in power. Accurately, I thought!
I think the same. This book has been roundly slammed because people presume the message that Machiavelli is sending is "do whatever it takes to meet your end and everything is ok. In fact, you SHOULD be amoral if you want to get anywhere in life". He's merely the observer. A brilliantly insightful one at that, but fallen into the wrong hands and used by unscrupulous politicians, it could wreck the world.
Otokonoko
05-05-2011, 10:40 AM
I love A Clockwork Orange. It's frustrating, difficult to read and opens doors to an exclusive club of people who tolchok [sp?] people over the gulliver - or at least know what that means. It didn't rock my world, though. Perhaps I didn't think too deeply about it.
One that rocked a small part of the world (mid-20th Century Australia) was Power Without Glory by Frank Hardy. He ended up in prison for writing it, and staunch supporters of the Australian Labor Party still curse his name.
Pride and Prejudice
I'm with you there. No book has ever disturbed me more. I use it in class as the exemplar of literature that is unworthy of that title. Maybe I'm just to much of a barbarian to appreciate it.
exodus238
05-08-2011, 11:47 AM
i reccomend Purple Hibiscus and Half of a Yellow Sun (Same author)
Purple Hibiscus looks at the relationship between father and children and Half of a Yellow Sun is set throughout the Nigerian War. These are my favourite books. I love them :)
tonywalt
05-09-2011, 11:33 PM
The Bible
The Koran
Talmud Text
educatedNreverS
02-06-2012, 08:00 PM
yes..
educatedNreverS
02-06-2012, 08:02 PM
chuck palahniuk..
PMLondonderry
02-06-2012, 09:03 PM
How about The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty by Anne Rice...a dark and disturbing sexual twist on a classic fairy tale....with a lot of spankings.
russellb
02-06-2012, 11:42 PM
A psychiatrist once said to me that I should burn all my books by the existentialist psychiatrist R D Laing and a psychologist once said to me that his work caused a lot of guilt among families of schizophrenics. (Laing's that is, not my psychologist's) So i'd say 'The politics of experience' comes highly recommended. It was written under the influence of LSD and I would say is best read when one is going clinically insane.
Wayfarer32
02-07-2012, 12:10 AM
Naked Lunch
Twilight (Just kidding, but it was funny)
KCurtis
02-08-2012, 07:25 PM
its overhyped for what it is and boring
i read it when i was younger and thought going against decency ment i had an open mind
Good one!
KCurtis
02-08-2012, 07:32 PM
Darwin's Origin of Species. Read it with something by Richard Dawkins (i.e. The Selfish Gene)for full effect.
No gore or anything, but philosophically, evolution, especially in its generalized form as interpreted by Dawkins, has radical and perhaps deeply disturbing implications, upending our traditional views of human life, both religious and humanistic. Evolution is able to explain humans as a natural phenomenon, purely in terms of cause and effect, rather than purpose. Taken to its logical conclusion with Dawkins, we realize that we are merely vehicles for replicating DNA, and everything, all human desires, can be explained in these terms. Sexual love can be interpreted as selected instinct for producing more copies of one's genes, while altruistic love (such as sacrificing one's life to preserve those of other humans) can be interpreted as preserving many vehicles that probably carry copies of one's genes, thereby maximizing the number of copies of these genes. This necessarily entails nihilism.
Sorry for probably stirring up possibly distasteful controversy, but controversy ought naturally be a consequence of how much a book "shakes the world."
I wonder how Darwins "Origin of Species" is what the poster has asked for? How is it in the least disturbing?
Sancho Panza
02-08-2012, 07:33 PM
Apocalypse Culture, edited by Adam Parfrey. It is a compilation of articles and interviews that covers the lower reaches of human behaviour. For example there is a fascinating interview with a self-confessed necrophiliac. What more could you ask for?
fudgetusk
09-04-2025, 05:56 AM
David Icke ROCKS! He may not be right all the time but he sure make you think about the nature of reality.
Have you read LOVE CHANGES EVERYTHING by Icke? He's disowned it but it's his greatest work.
hellsapoppin
09-05-2025, 11:04 PM
Proofs of a Conspiracy 1798 by Jon Robison
This is the grand daddy of them all when it comes to studies in conspiracy theory.
Danik 2016
09-06-2025, 03:06 PM
Maybe because it was the year of the French Revolution.
hellsapoppin
09-08-2025, 11:38 PM
Maybe because it was the year of the French Revolution.
Indeed as shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv8kkl3e-zA
President Washington on the Illuminati:
https://jimdukeperspective.com/george-washington-warned-illuminati/
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During 1798 a Reverend, G.W. Snyder, wrote several letters to George Washington warning about his concerns of this infamous Secret Society known as the Illuminati penetrating into the United States Masonic Lodges. He sent Washington a book exposing this group and their intentions outlined by John Robison, entitled Proofs of a Conspiracy.
Proofs of a Conspiracy - John Robison
Washington wrote to correct an error by Snyder of insinuating he had been involved in the Masonic Lodge, which Washington wrote,
“The fact is, I preside over none, nor have I been in one more than once or twice, within the last thirty years. I believe notwithstandings, that none of the Lodges in this Country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati.”
Upon presuming George Washington did not find any threat with the Illuminati in the United States, Snyder wrote again to urge Washington to consider that as according to the book, Proofs of a Conspiracy, he was convinced the doctrines of the Illuminati had affected the United States.
On October 24, 1798 George Washington wrote back to Snyder correcting him that it was not that he denied the Illuminati had penetrated the United States, but that he meant he was not concerned that it had contaminated the Freemason Lodges.
“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Iluminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or the pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of separation).”
How was Washington sure the Illuminati had not penetrated the Lodges if he had only visited one once or twice over thirty years as he claimed? Regardless, the point is that Washington acknowledged a problem with the Illuminati, and that they did in fact exist after supposedly disbanding in 1785 as some claim. Many have been misinformed that the Illuminati either broke up after 1785, or that they never existed. And many deny they had any impact on Society, despite that Washington admitted that they did.
The evidence shows that the Illuminati continued through the United States, and that they had an influence. Despite the change in title to the Jacobin Club, or other obscure names, as well as seeking refuge within the Freemason Lodges, they still operated. Some would say that the Illuminati became one with Freemasonry in that one could not detect where Masonry ended and Illuminism began at the Adept levels. They became a hidden Secret Society within a Secret Society. And the fact is their doctrines had contaminated America.
What were the principles?
The Illuminati was founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at Ingolstadt. He recited his plan to John Robison, who he thought was receptive to the doctrines of the Illuminati. However, Robison listened only to write a book to expose this diabolical plan and warn others. The book Proofs of a Conspiracy was published in 1798.
Washington was sent this book by Snyder. In that book, Robison exposes the plans of the Illuminati mainly to abolish Christianity, but also to overthrow all forms of government by wars and revolutions and force them into a consolidated centralized One World Government, which the Perfectibalists (Elite Intellects) would be rulers over the masses (goyim).
The plan can be outlined simply by these six principles:
Abolish monarchies and all ordered governments
Abolish private property and inheritance
Abolish patriotism and nationalism
Abolish family life and the institution of marriage
The establishment of communal education for children
Abolish religion (Christianity)
As the Illuminati would infiltrate societies, it would overthrow standing leaders and replace them with their agents, using wars and revolutions as persuasive means. Its purpose would be to direct all governments to abide under a One World Government. Using its influence through libraries and media, as well as education, to indoctrinate with a globalist ideology compatible with this agenda.
The Illuminati had affiliates in high places to carry out the financing. Adam Weishaupt formed his Order with the help of Rothschild finances. The Rothschilds assured the connection between the Plan and the wealthy families who would co-conspire in such schemes. These Banking Elite often bribed others who would contribute to the agenda, ensuring the necessary positions of power remained in the hands of the Oligarchy.
Do you recognize the global agenda in society? We see it every day in bits and pieces. It is the Marxist plan for Socialism and Communism, which is based on Luciferian doctrines of the Illuminati for a State consolidation towards a centralized government. Communism being an extreme intrusive ideology to ween towards the acceptable Socialism.
And the political agencies were developed for this. When the League of Nations failed acceptance after WWI, the Elite formed an Illuminati organization called the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1921. This would spoon-feed Socialism bit by bit through the sectors of society before the public realized it was upon them. By then they would be conditioned to accept it.
In addition to the political agencies, Foundations were given jurisdiction in directives for this socialization experiment through the education system. The Carnegie Endowment, Ford Foundation, and Rockefeller Foundation used their grant-making powers to indoctrinate students through the education system towards a globalist mindset that surrenders the Constitution and Declaration of Independence and leans society to the conditioning of accepting a One World Government. In my podcast Socialism for NWO Indoctrination is an interview with Norman Dodd, Director of the Reese Committee assigned to oversee these Foundations.
After WWII the public was ready to accept a World Organization. It accepted the United Nations to manage the legislation of the doctrines of the Illuminati through a political front to accelerate One World Government. The United Nations is the organization in which legislates the laws, but which ensures the doctrines of the Illuminati are fulfilled in its policies. This is what is known as the New World Order, drafted by Adam Weishaupt in 1776.
The United Nations is run by New Age Theosophists through the education of Lucis Trust, a group of Luciferian occultists. Lucis Trust is an education organization that converges philosophies compatible with Luciferian doctrine and Illuminism. And was influenced by the Illuminati.
The agenda of the Illuminati is still on course. Just a matter of when it will be fully implemented. Pieces are already established to enact it at the right moment. And some believe are active in the aspirations of the Jesuits. Adam Weishaupt was an ex-Jesuit, which presumably broke up in 1773. Yet Weishaupt adopted their tactics for infiltration of his group. And it is suspected the Jesuits secretly continued under this new cloak, even though others believed the Illuminati to be an opposition of the Jesuits. However, they assume the same goals of globalism and abolition of monarchies and forms of government.
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