View Full Version : Doyle, Dante or Dumas?
Ghuyuran
10-22-2008, 10:25 PM
To go straight to the point, I have to make a decision as to which book I read first between those three:
Sherlock Holmes (the complete novels and stories collection)
The Divine Comedy
The Count of Monte Cristo
Three artefacts of enormous value and a student who has little time to read all three in the coming months. Surely most of you had to make a decision akin to this one many, many times. I have never tried detective fiction, I have read a few stanzas of The Divine Comedy and I have heard good things from those who have read The Count.
Thank you all. :thumbs_up
Etienne
10-22-2008, 10:30 PM
The Divine Comedy without a single doubt.
mtpspur
10-22-2008, 10:31 PM
I vote for Sherlock Holmes. Now truthfully have never read Dante but after many years did make it through The Count of Monte Cristo. I liked Count but not as enthralled with it as say The Three Musketeers in comparison whereas Sherlock is endlessly fascinating to follow.
Virgil
10-22-2008, 10:33 PM
It depends how old you are. The Divine Comedy is certainly the greatest of the three, but it's not exactly a children's read.
JCamilo
10-22-2008, 10:57 PM
3 at sametime. At the momment you discover Beatrice wants to kill Moriaty for sending Virgil to a prision so he could marry Watson while Holmes is journeying thru Hell and Dante is discovering that the Universe is not elementar, you will have joy.
Virgil
10-22-2008, 11:01 PM
3 at sametime. At the momment you discover Beatrice wants to kill Moriaty for sending Virgil to a prision so he could marry Watson while Holmes is journeying thru Hell and Dante is discovering that the Universe is not elementar, you will have joy.
:lol::lol: That really had me laughing out loud. :lol:
librarius_qui
10-23-2008, 12:07 AM
:lol::lol: That really had me laughing out loud. :lol:
That was a very creative moment, no doub! ...
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I agree that it may depend on your moment in life. As well as nationality ... Or tastes for it. What do you wish better (or to begin from)?: England, Italy or France?
However I have Italy in my blood, I'd prefer England.
There's another choice as well: when do you like better to be?: end of the Victorian era, the Middle Ages, or the XVIIIth century?
I'd be in doubt between the 18th and the MA, so, I'd probably begin through mr. Alighieri ...
But I'd need some Treasure Island and some Christmas Carol, so as not to be too distant from the other periods ... And keep myself nearer England ...
Again, that's me.
What about you?
librarius
:crash:
stlukesguild
10-23-2008, 12:18 AM
3 at sametime. At the momment you discover Beatrice wants to kill Moriaty for sending Virgil to a prision so he could marry Watson while Holmes is journeying thru Hell and Dante is discovering that the Universe is not elementar, you will have joy.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Seriously... The Divine Comedy is easily... EASILY the greatest of the three choices. In my mind it is the single greatest book ever written. The other two are not even close... minor classics at best. Having said that much, I would ask how well read... how experienced you are with classic literature... before making any recommendation. The Divine Comedy is marvelous... but it is not light reading and it demands a real investment on the part of the reader and (unless you are deeply versed in classical mythology, Christian theology, Roman and medieval history, medieval Italian politics, etc...) frequent reference to notes. I will also note that if you decide upon Dante you must also make a decision as to the translation. My personal favorite is John Ciardi... but Alan Mandelbaum, Robert Pinsky, Robert and Jean Hollander, and Mark Musa's are all highly respected.
Longfellow's translation isn't too shabby either, and hey, it's in the public domain.
Josef K
10-23-2008, 12:52 AM
Divine Comedy if you are at that comprehension level.
Age doesn't matter all that much. I've met 40 year olds that could never make it through Dante and 13 year olds that would devour it.
stlukesguild
10-23-2008, 01:09 AM
Yes... I liked what I've read of Longfellow's translation... he wasn't a bad translator in general... but would you recommend it as your first choice for Dante?:confused:
Tallon
10-23-2008, 01:32 AM
I've not read Dante and The Count gets a bit boring in the middle, so i vote for Holmes.
zolasdisciple
10-23-2008, 10:25 AM
id say the count of monte cristo.:).Good luck
bazarov
10-23-2008, 12:25 PM
3 at sametime. At the momment you discover Beatrice wants to kill Moriaty for sending Virgil to a prision so he could marry Watson while Holmes is journeying thru Hell and Dante is discovering that the Universe is not elementar, you will have joy.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: And then Dante starts flerting with Mercedes and Edmond realizes that and stabs him!
Dante
amalia1985
10-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Difficult choice...I'd vote for the Divine Comedy.
BassoonPatch
10-23-2008, 02:01 PM
1. The Count of Monte Cristo. This book is life altering and eminently beautiful.
2. Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock is simply the man.
3. The Divine Comedy. Well, its not that its not good. I just enjoyed the other two more.
Ghuyuran
10-23-2008, 07:44 PM
Divine Comedy: 6
Sherlock Holmes: 2
The Count of Monte Cristo: 2
I have chosen to read The Divine Comedy. The comments that were posted have certainly raised my interest for that work.
My personal favorite is John Ciardi... but Alan Mandelbaum, Robert Pinsky, Robert and Jean Hollander, and Mark Musa's are all highly respected.
I have Musa's translation in the Penguin edition books. I'm aware that The Divine Comedy is a work that requires its readers to do some research to understand it better, and that is exactly why I'm not hurrying to read the three books. I prefer to concentrate on one classic for a while and develop my thoughts on it.
This work will give me a reason to learn more about Italy.
Thank you all! :D
Try and look for an annotated copy. It will help for first-time readers, as many of the characters are historical figures, and much of the content is based on historical thought.
stlukesguild
10-23-2008, 11:44 PM
The Count of Monte Cristo. This book is life altering...
"Life Altering"???:confused::goof: How? It's just a decent adventure novel.
Etienne
10-24-2008, 12:01 AM
The Count of Monte Cristo. This book is life altering...
"Life Altering"???:confused::goof: How? It's just a decent adventure novel.
Well maybe the book made him become a swashbuckler :lol:
JCamilo
10-24-2008, 09:23 AM
Or he discovered a new way to deal with his friends...
Or he discovered a new way to deal with his friends...
Or Women? Seriously, all things aside, I think it clear that Dumas, or whoever was ghost writing, thought very lowly of Women.
JCamilo
10-24-2008, 02:46 PM
Wast Dumas some regular Don Juan and lost a lot of his money with his lovers ?
Nico87
10-24-2008, 03:30 PM
If you do read Dante, get the Mandelbaum's translation from Everyman's Library.
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