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Hobbes
10-22-2008, 12:05 AM
How about this. We are talking about individualism in romanticism being the only way to live a life. Not phony not conformist. The problem was if you can't accept any ideas and traditions, how do you know you're not just defying to defy. Like the pun "anti'-conformists unite!!". Should I completely disregard him?

Orpheus
10-22-2008, 12:14 AM
Yes they are really vague questions. Why don't you set some kind of context for whatever kind of discussion you wish to have? If you can't form a coherent statement - come back when you can.

I can't believe, I've wasted my time responding to this.

NikolaiI
10-22-2008, 12:26 AM
Purpose of life is figuring it out, learning... journey begins when we ask, "Who am I?" "Who is God?" etc.

Ideal or goal is to be happy and love. But we have to learn how to live correctly; otherwise we won't be happy, or we'll live destructively etc.

Hobbes
10-27-2008, 08:59 PM
Oh Orpheus. I'm looking back and I see it was slapshod. Little more tact next time around 'kay.

NikolaiI
10-28-2008, 07:54 PM
Wait this is not correct.. Hobbes, Orpheus and I were replying to something else, right?

Something like, where should an individual go? A moderator merged the threads somehow mistakenly, and the post Orpheus and my posts were in reply to is gone.

Hobbes
11-07-2008, 10:34 PM
you've been patient, I've been a doofus. thank you



Ideal or goal is to be happy and love. But we have to learn how to live correctly; otherwise we won't be happy, or we'll live destructively etc.

In a nutshell: What standard should we hold ourselves to

Oh Plato. "Analyzing". I kind of agree, but in life, that ideal gets really tangled in with personal problems. Why bother with a standard that often cuts out sympathy and fragment people.

blazeofglory
12-27-2008, 02:23 AM
I do not beleive in standards, norms, frames and the like.

We frame laws according to our conveniences and break when we do not need them.

So are the standards or conventions, traditions and the like. We keep on setting them but when they are inconvenient in a particular circumstance we choose to defy or break them.

We are quirky beings.

blazeofglory
12-27-2008, 02:29 AM
I do not beleive in standards, norms, frames and the like.

We frame laws according to our conveniences and break when we do not need them.

So are the standards or conventions, traditions and the like. We keep on setting them but when they are inconvenient in a particular circumstance we choose to defy or break them.

We are quirky beings.

0=2
12-27-2008, 02:04 PM
By creation. Art.

The zeroless aside, assume and create your own dogma for the purpose of experimentation. Live it, love it, use it, discard it. How can you be sure it's discardable? Remember,

it's
all
an
ACT!

Whether or not you realize it you are ALL ACTING! None of you know anything at all, no absolute truth, no nothing. Or rather the nothing... or rather...

Ok, sorry. Point being, make your own dogma, live your own dogma, then remember you were acting just as soon as the boredom starts to hit(and trust me it will if you contain any "true" will or intellect), and construct a new one. Remember, a dogma isn't a dogma unless you act on it.

So... ACT IT! Philosophy is dead if it isn't applied. Want to better understand the "evils" money? Go to business school, Mr.Anarchist. Get a degree in economics. Get a job on Wallstreet(crumbling or not) and hten really understand your "enemy". Course hte risk always is... what if you become it?

Well, if your world iew is weak enough to be corrupted by it's own experiment, maybe it's... worth shedding?

My two cents. (By the way Hobbes, I'm stalking you.)