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Rechka
01-30-2005, 11:00 PM
I have been reading your to read lists, what you are currently reading and what you have read. I must say that I really admire your taste in literature. However, I am a little sad that most of you have not mentioned a single latin american author. I love the latin american literature of the XX century, especially magical realism novels and stories.

Being Mexican, I am going to promote one of my favourite Mexican authors and perhaps the best one Mexico has given us, Juan Rulfo. I urge you to read the first pages of Pedro Paramo, the story of Juan Preciado who promises his dying mother that he will visit Comala, her hometown, and search for his father, Pedro Paramo. His mother's words lead Juan to expect a ``beautiful view of a green plain,'' but instead he finds a ghost town and learns that Pedro is already dead. I don't want to tell you too much about it because I believe you should discover a book yourself.


I came to Comala because I had been told that my father, a man named Pedro Páramo, lived there. It was my mother who told me. And I had promised her that after she died I would go see him. I squeezed her hands as a sign I would do it. She was near death, and I would have promised her anything. “Don’t fail to go see him,” she had insisted. “Some call him one thing, some another. I’m sure he will want to know you.” At the time all I could do was tell her I would do what she asked, and from promising so often I kept repeating the promise even after I had pulled my hands free of her death grip.
Still earlier she had told me:
“Don’t ask him for anything. Just what is ours. What he should have given me but never did…Make him pay, son, for all those years he put us out of his mind.”
“I will, Mother.”
I never meant to keep my promise. But before I knew it my head began to swim with dreams and my imagination took flight. Little by little I began to build a world around a hope, centered on the man called Pedro Páramo, the man who had been my mother’s husband. That was why I had come to Comala.
It was during the dog days, the season when the August wind blows hot, venomous with the rotten stench of saponaria blossoms.
The road rose and fell. It rises or falls depending on whether you’re coming or going. If you are leaving, it’s uphill; but as you arrive it’s downhill.
“What did you say that town there is called?”
“Comala, señor.”
“You’re sure that’s Comala?”
”I’m sure, señor.”
“It’s a sorry-looking place, what happened to it?”
“It’s the times, señor.”
I had expected to see the town of my mother’s memories, of her nostalgia – nostalgia laced with sighs. She had lived her lifetime sighing about Comala, about going back. But she never had. Now I had come in her place. I was seeing things through her eyes, as she had seen them. She had given me her eyes to see. Just as you pass the gate of Los Colimotes there’s a beautiful view of a green plain tinged with the yellow of ripe corn. From there you can see Comala, turning the earth white, and lighting it at night. Her voice was secret, muffled, as if she were talking to herself…Mother.
“And why are you going to Comala, if you don’t mind my asking?” I heard the man say.
“I’ve come to see my father,” I replied.
“Umh!” he said.
And again silence.
We were making our way down the hill to the clip-clop of the burros’ hooves. Their sleepy eyes were bulging from the August heat.
“You’re going to get some welcome.” Again I heard the voice of the man walking at my side. “They’ll be happy to see someone after all the years no one’s come this way.”
After a while he added: “Whoever you are, they’ll be glad to see you.”
In the shimmering sunlight the plain was a transparent lake dissolving in mists that veiled a gray horizon. Farther in the distance, a range of mountains. And farther still, faint remoteness.
“And what does your father look like, if you don’t mind my asking?”
“I never knew him,” I told the man. “I only know his name is Pedro Páramo.”
“Umh! That so?”
“Yes. At least that was the name I was told.”
Yet again I heard the burro driver’s “Umh!”
I had run into him at the crossroads called Los Encuentros. I had been waiting there, and finally this man had appeared.
“Where are you going?” I asked.
“Down that way, señor.”
“Do you know a place called Comala?”
“That’s the very way I’m going.”
So I followed him. I walked along behind him, trying to keep up with him, until he seemed to remember I was following and slowed down a little. After that, we walked side by side, so close our shoulders were nearly touching.
“Pedro Páramo’s my father, too,” he said.
A flock of crows swept across the empty sky shrilling “caw, caw, caw”
Up-and downhill we went, but always descending. We had left the hot wind behind and were sinking into pure, airless heat. The stillness seemed to be waiting for something.
“It’s hot here.” I said.
”You might say. But this is nothing,” my companion replied.“Try to take it easy. You’ll feel it even more when we get to Comala. That town sits on the coals of the earth, at the very mouth of hell. They say that when people from there die and go to hell, they come back for a blanket.”
“Do you know Pedro Páramo?” I asked.
I felt I could ask because I had seen a glimmer of goodwill in his eyes.
“Who is he?” I pressed him.
“Living bile,” was his reply.
And he lowered his stick against the burros for no reason at all, because they had been far ahead of us, guided by the descending trail.
The picture of my mother I was carrying in my pocket felt hot against my heart, as if she herself were sweating. It was an old photograph, worn around the edges, but it was the only one I had ever seen of her. I found it in the kitchen armoire, inside a clay pot filled with herbs: dried lemon balm, castilla blossoms, sprigs of rue. I had kept it with me ever since. It was all I had. My mother always hated having her picture taken. She said photographs were a tool of withcraft. And that may have been so, because hers was riddled with pinpricks, and at the location of the heart there was a hole you could stick you middle finger through.
I had brought the photograph with me, thinking it might help my father recognize who I was.
“Take a look,” the burro driver said, stopping. “You see that rounded hill that looks like a hog bladder? Well, the Media Luna lies right behind there. Now turn that way. You see the brow of that hill? Look hard. And now back this way. You see that ridge? The one so far you can hardly see it? Well, all that’s the Media Luna.

Hopefully I have sparked your curiosity to read the entire story which isn't long, btw, about 124 pages. The language may seem simple but looks can be deceiving.

crisaor
01-31-2005, 05:11 PM
Hi Rechka.
We do read latin american literature around here, it's just that it may not appear in the thread you mentioned, for one reason or another. But we do pay attention to it.

mono
02-01-2005, 09:59 AM
Thank you for your recommendation, Rechka, and I do partially agree that some Latin-American authors seem neglected. On this particular forum, however, I find the fact mostly an exception, many people noticeably being fans of Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Jorge Luis Borges (especially his short stories, I love), and, one of my favorite poets, Pablo Neruda, to name a few.
Thank you again for the selection of the story. I will have to read it sometime.

A Karma Old Zen
02-11-2005, 03:33 PM
Regarding this book, I have to agree with Susan Sontag's words when she said: "Pedro Páramo is not only one of the masterpieces of twentieth-century world literature, but one of the most influential of the century's books; indeed it would be hard to overestimate its impact on literature in Spanish."

A Karma Old Zen
02-11-2005, 03:49 PM
I just finished reading the fragment. I think part of the problem why the book is not as successful as it is in Latin America, and especially in Mexico, is because of what is lost in translation. I would read it all in English if I had it because I know what a wonderful story it is but it didn't grab me as the Spanish version did.

Koa
02-14-2005, 09:09 AM
Latin American literature is cool, I think it mostly would be enjoyable even if the stories werent great, cos the style is SO lively! I think I read something Mexican ages ago, I will check cos I don't remember the name... And Garcia Marquez of course rules! :) And I read Isabel Allende, even if sometimes it feels a bit commercial (I mean, she's too popular)...Same for Coelho, even if he's not Spanish speaking I guess it matters?

genoveva
02-27-2006, 02:50 PM
Finally! I had to get to page 30 before I found a thread on Latin American authors! I love Spanish Literature, and hope to some day read it in it's original. Aside from the authors already mentioned above:

Marquez
Allende
Juan Rulfo
Jorge Luis Borges
and
Pablo Nerudo

I have heard highly of Mario Vargas Llosa.

Are there any other recommendations out there?

beer good
03-02-2006, 10:39 AM
I've only read one book by Llosa - "The Feast Of The Goat" - but I liked it a lot and would gladly read something else by him. Any recommendations?

José Carlos Somoza is Cuban, so I suppose he counts? "The Athenian Murders" is an absolute hoot, at the same time a send-up of the mystery genre (taking place in ancient Greece, with a small rotund moustached detective named Hercules Pontor) and an Umberto Eco-like meta-novel about philosophy.

Oh, and Borges rocks my socks.

Mustardseed
03-06-2006, 11:27 AM
I love Latin American literature as well, though I am Swedish :)

Some of my favourites are anything by Gabriel García Márquez, I've read several books by Mario Vargas Llosa that I liked a lot. Also La Mujer Habitada/The Inhabited Woman by Gioconda Bellí. Brilliant stuff!

Geoffrey
03-06-2006, 11:56 AM
Gabriel Garcia Marquez is really wonderful. Particularly 100 years of solitude.

I also love Pablo Neruda - Residence of Earth is just absolutely wonderful. Beautifully written.

Thanks for the recommendations too.!

crisaor
03-06-2006, 12:03 PM
To those who like Borges, I recommend Adolfo Bioy Casares, they were close friends, and his style resembles Borges' in some aspects.

Wendigo_49
03-07-2006, 01:23 AM
To those who like Borges, I recommend Adolfo Bioy Casares, they were close friends, and his style resembles Borges' in some aspects.

Thanks for the recommendation.

beer good
03-27-2006, 05:00 AM
I just finished Julio Cortázars "A Certain Lucas" and liked it a lot - short little philosophizing chapters, often no more than 1-2 pages, taking ordinary situations and more or less free-associating them into something completely different. Ever so slightly surrealistic, deep without getting heavy (most of the time), and often wickedly funny. Comparing him to Borges might seem cliché, but I can't help it. Has anyone else read anything by him? I'm told "Hopscotch" is supposed to be pretty good?

Theshizznigg
03-27-2006, 03:20 PM
Unfortunately I've not had the pleasure of reading many Latin American pieces.

"So many books, so little time!"

rune2402
09-28-2007, 02:57 PM
Does anyone know where a Hispanic/Latino American writer can discuss short story writing or am I in the right place?

I plan to write some stories , but they are not just from an American perspective, but from a Hispanic-American perspective.

Since I am a new writer, I need to discuss my work with others for citicism and analysis.

Any help appreciated in this matter.

JCamilo
09-28-2007, 03:38 PM
Obiviously, Borges is a shadow that covers all Latin-American literature of the XX century. Bioy Casares and Cortazar are close writers, even Cortazar is a bit more french than english...
Octavio Paz must be listed around here as well. Ruben Dário also.
In Brazil, Carlos Drummond de Andrade, Guimaraes Rosa (the true great romance writer of Latin America), Mario de Andrade, Graciliano Ramos, Lima Barreto, Monteiro Lobato, Erico Verissimo, Cecilia Meireles, are probally the best names we have...

JCamilo
09-28-2007, 03:41 PM
Does anyone know where a Hispanic/Latino American writer can discuss short story writing or am I in the right place?

I plan to write some stories , but they are not just from an American perspective, but from a Hispanic-American perspective.

Since I am a new writer, I need to discuss my work with others for citicism and analysis.

Any help appreciated in this matter.

Then I think you have to consider what the great master of short stories of the XX century, Borges said: Literature does not belong to one place, usually the national names are those who least represents one nation. For this he used to say that Shakespeare was not a true british writer, Goethe was less german than it appears, Cervantes also and himself, he barelly felt as a argie...

He also showed to us that all literature is one and at sametime, so you have to deal with the past writers when you write. Do not try to be a hyspanic writer. Just be a writer.

ClickForth
09-28-2007, 03:51 PM
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NickAdams
10-02-2007, 10:22 PM
I have a collection of Latin American short stories; it's titled Eye of the Heart and I've enjoyed it for the most part.

Jcamilo makes a good point. If you're identity as a 'Hispanic-American' plays a major role in your life, it will show in your writing.

Learn the craft from all writers and take philosophies from South America, but the latter will surely limit you.

Remember: Garcia-Marquez was influenced by Faulkner.

Ludmila607
10-05-2007, 07:54 AM
[I]Poetry: Pablo Neruda
Cesar Vallejo
Amado Nervo

Cortazar
Onetti
Borges
Benedetti
Alfonsina Storni
Idea Vilariño
Marosa di Giorgio
Delmira Agustini
Narrative:
Horacio Quiroga
J Luis Borges
Cortazar
Mauricio Rosencof

Take it easy.
Start by reading some poetry Neruda , Vallejo
Borges can be readed any country because his writting it is timeless and spaceless.
Hope my recomandations are helpful.

Babbalanja
10-06-2007, 12:47 PM
I've always loved Latin American literature. I learned Spanish and discovered a whole wealth of great authors.

Juan Jose Arreola is a Mexican author whose satirical, experimental works (like Confabulario and Bestiario) have sometimes been translated into English. I highly recommend his work to those of you who like Borges. Arreola is more comic but no less philosophical.

bibliophile190
10-07-2007, 02:08 AM
I love "The Feather Pillow" by Horacio Quiroga. It's one of my favorite short stories. I haven't much other LA literature though.

stlukesguild
10-07-2007, 12:00 PM
To those who like Borges, I recommend Adolfo Bioy Casares, they were close friends, and his style resembles Borges' in some aspects.

I would recommend Augusto Monterroso, a Guatemalan writer, even more so... although I certainly do like Casares. Monterroso's collection, Complete Works and Other Stories is published by the University of Texas press and is a fabulous collection of short stories (and essays) that clearly show the Borghesian influence. I guess this cannot be avoided in a sense... rather like an America painter completely ignoring Abstract Expressionism.

Virgil
10-07-2007, 04:20 PM
I really enjoyed Mario Vargas Llosa's Death In The Andes. I know he has more critically acclaimed novels, but unfortunately I haven't read them. If they are better than Death In The Andes, then they must be very good.

Ludmila607
10-12-2007, 07:20 AM
To those who like Borges, I recommend Adolfo Bioy Casares, they were close friends, and his style resembles Borges' in some aspects.

I would recommend Augusto Monterroso, a Guatemalan writer, even more so... although I certainly do like Casares. Monterroso's collection, Complete Works and Other Stories is published by the University of Texas press and is a fabulous collection of short stories (and essays) that clearly show the Borghesian influence. I guess this cannot be avoided in a sense... rather like an America painter completely ignoring Abstract Expressionism.

I have heard that Borges and Bioy were close friends.And I am talking not about the "friends of fames" that come around whn someone begins to turn a pre4stigiuous author.They were friends really, as the Rioplatenses used to be no so long ago.Going to a coffee, taking a person to your home and spend ten hours talking about everything, sharing time togheter.Like friend from the neighbour they know people in common and they both write.Maybe Borges eclipses Casares for his blinding talent.Capable of memorize the classic on their original language, shy and maybe elitist.I do not still read Casares.I am sure I am going to be surprised.if they were close ans talk the same idiom, knowing the inspiration code...

Ludmila607
10-12-2007, 07:28 AM
I love "The Feather Pillow" by Horacio Quiroga. It's one of my favorite short stories. I haven't much other LA literature though.

Unless you re south american I am rerally impressed that you have read Quiroga.I am sure he is one of the best universal writers.He is extraordinary advanced to his time.He have a terrible life that some try to show as "novelistic" but it was a permanent tragedy...
Alfonsina Storni, argentinian poetess seem to have some friendship to Horacio and dedicated a poem after he commit suicide(she will be a suicide too).
His writing it is original, thrilling, dark and can be readed by anyone even if refers to South American landscapes and characters...
he wrote for children too and was tender.
He is great.I am proud cause he is Uruguayan and so I am.:D

nebish
10-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Uruguayan...then why not celebrate Eduardo Galeano .. superb writer

JCamilo
10-12-2007, 01:11 PM
I have heard that Borges and Bioy were close friends.And I am talking not about the "friends of fames" that come around whn someone begins to turn a pre4stigiuous author.They were friends really, as the Rioplatenses used to be no so long ago.Going to a coffee, taking a person to your home and spend ten hours talking about everything, sharing time togheter.Like friend from the neighbour they know people in common and they both write.Maybe Borges eclipses Casares for his blinding talent.Capable of memorize the classic on their original language, shy and maybe elitist.I do not still read Casares.I am sure I am going to be surprised.if they were close ans talk the same idiom, knowing the inspiration code...

They are indeed very good friends - not only produced works together as Borges call Bioy "his master" and says that Bioy's influence have changed his early way of writing (borges said he was too barroque).
Of course, that is Borges and his imense modesty.
Their work together are very good, Bioy is indeed more "Human" than Borges, in the sense Borges is sometimes Literature and not a man. In this sense, Borges works are superior than Bioy, but that would be unfair to judge anything like this - Bioy is worth by himself. The Invention of Morel is very good, El Sueno del Heroe (now my memory tricks me with the proper spanish name, but you will probally understand it) is also a good read.

crisaor
10-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Ludmila, you can check out Borges (http://www.amazon.com/Borges-Adolfo-Bioy-Casares/dp/9507320857/ref=sr_1_5/103-4484321-9573421?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192227361&sr=1-5), which is a publication of Bioy Casares' personal diary. It deals with their friendship and a wide variety of subjects, among which is discussing literature but also taking gratuitous shots at colleagues and several renown figures. It conveys an image about them very different from that one obtained by reading their books. They also wrote/edited several books together, sometimes under the nom de guerre of Bustos Domeq.



Their work together are very good, Bioy is indeed more "Human" than Borges, in the sense Borges is sometimes Literature and not a man. In this sense, Borges works are superior than Bioy, but that would be unfair to judge anything like this - Bioy is worth by himself. The Invention of Morel is very good, El Sueno del Heroe (now my memory tricks me with the proper spanish name, but you will probally understand it) is also a good read.
Pretty close, that would be El Sueño de los Héroes, but I found the ending to be lacking (and in fact, Bioy postponed the novel in account for his inability to come up with a fitting ending for the story until he came up with the one of the novel, which is somewhat obvious and too efectist, IMO). I'd recommend Diary of the War of the Pig instead (The Invention of Morel is nice, as are some of his short stories).

Ludmila607
10-13-2007, 04:58 PM
Uruguayan...then why not celebrate Eduardo Galeano .. superb writer
Oh Uh !I am so very embarrased to forget about Galeano
I Recommend Latin America Open veins¨and I do recommend El libro de los Abrazos, claro How can it be hat title translated:
The embraces Book ,maybe??
He is great I read Las venas Abiertas de America LAtina and I was shocked.May people ignore this terrorific part of our History , that explains waht we came to be what we are.
it is a hard book , hurting for anyone who has a heart...it was hard for me to get free of historical resentiment...and undestand it is not about resentment but about CONSCIENCE and not INGENUITY....
El Libro de los Abrazos it is pure inspiration.Tender ands easy to read.Yes GAleano, uruguayan and universal.He is worried about Latin america hurts and illnessess.
Thanks for reminding me...:)

Ludmila607
10-13-2007, 05:00 PM
JCamilo thanks for your recomendations.I am needeing a good reading these days.

Ludmila607
10-13-2007, 05:03 PM
Ludmila, you can check out Borges (http://www.amazon.com/Borges-Adolfo-Bioy-Casares/dp/9507320857/ref=sr_1_5/103-4484321-9573421?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192227361&sr=1-5), which is a publication of Bioy Casares' personal diary. It deals with their friendship and a wide variety of subjects, among which is discussing literature but also taking gratuitous shots at colleagues and several renown figures. It conveys an image about them very different from that one obtained by reading their books. They also wrote/edited several books together, sometimes under the nom de guerre of Bustos Domeq.



Pretty close, that would be El Sueño de los Héroes, but I found the ending to be lacking (and in fact, Bioy postponed the novel in account for his inability to come up with a fitting ending for the story until he came up with the one of the novel, which is somewhat obvious and too efectist, IMO). I'd recommend Diary of the War of the Pig instead (The Invention of Morel is nice, as are some of his short stories).

I ll be checking out your recomendations.I was thinkinf how affective lnely he was untll Maria Kodama appeared.I am curious about it.

Pecksie
07-02-2008, 06:58 PM
I love "The Feather Pillow" by Horacio Quiroga. It's one of my favorite short stories. I haven't much other LA literature though.

Many of his short stories have been translated into Spanish. Read "The Decapitated Chicken", "A Season of Love", "Juan Darién", "Adrift"... to name only a few.

Etienne
07-02-2008, 09:43 PM
Rulfo's Pedro Paramo is definitely one of the greatest works of the century.

JCamilo
07-03-2008, 10:38 AM
Pretty close, that would be El Sueño de los Héroes, but I found the ending to be lacking (and in fact, Bioy postponed the novel in account for his inability to come up with a fitting ending for the story until he came up with the one of the novel, which is somewhat obvious and too efectist, IMO). I'd recommend Diary of the War of the Pig instead (The Invention of Morel is nice, as are some of his short stories).

Yes, his short stories have a few jewels hidden. I would go for a selection - Bioy certainly can hold on with Borges when the subject is knowledge about literature and that is very interesting. I tried to buy Borges last year (not only because the need to still find something about Borges to read, but because I am very curious to see Bioy talking about literature with some critical sense) but amazon could not send my copy :(

Part of the reason why Bioy was under the Shadow of Borges is of course that Borges, to put bluntly, superior. But Bioy, instead of other younger writers that decided to "move" against Borges and find their own identidy (Thinking of Sabato and Cortazar a little here) was fine to be the "other". But Bioy was as elitist and had almost as much knowledge as Borges. But in the 60's when Borges started to travel a lot and his blindness reduced his capacity to walk around Buenos Aires, they got a little apart. (Borges was pretty much waiting his death, and that took more than a decade to happen) and Maria Kodama replaced not only Bioy but Borges's mother.

A friend told me that Bioy's wife, Silvina Ocampo was a good writer and she may be interesting.
Those last days I read Felisberto Hernandez and the guy is a master.

hhc
09-10-2008, 10:23 AM
Latin-American litterature is my favourite! I started learning Spanish just to be able to read García Márquez, Allende, Neruda, Vargas Llosa, Borges and all the others in their native language. Not only I deeply admire your litterature, but I also empathize with Latin-Americans as people and with Latin America as a continent. I love this unique world so much, that I promised myself I would see all of it and maybe live there later on.
Don't be too discouraged by people of the western culture who don't read Hispanic litterature. I think that Western and Latin-American mentalities are too far away. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Latin America has its own way of thinking.

JCamilo
09-10-2008, 03:20 PM
I have to Add Juan Rulfo, Pedro Páramo é very good, a great wording style.